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mobiledivide
2009-09-11, 22:27
Since I didn't really see an official thread about hands on impressions from community members apart from Qole's hands on from Nokia World I thought I would start one so us regular community folks can talk about experiences.

Today I went to the NYC Nokia store and had about 30 - 40 minutes to 'play' with a proto N900 device without supervision of any kind really apart from a manager occasionally coming over to look and here are my impressions.

Hardware -

The device I held was a prototype according to the rep who was there. The build is solid, very solid, albeit a little chunky, think N95 8GB. For those of us used to pocketing N810's it is definitely much smaller and easier to slip into a pocket. The slide mechanism feels 'right', with the right amount of heft to its movement. The screen lock mechanism slider was appropriately placed for landscape use.
The keyboard has a very nice feel and is exponentially better than the N810, the only problem is the 3 rows, which aren't ideal but for me not a deal breaker.
The screen is gorgeous, the size difference from N810 to N900 is noticable but the resolution is so nice that its quickly forgivable.

Software and Experience

For a seasoned tablet user this is a very interesting change to maemo. It really feels like a hybrid between maemo and s60. Maybe its just the icon change to the Nokia standard icons but it is weird looking at the s60 icons to invoke messaging, contacts etc. I tried out pretty much everything I could but there was no sim in the device and I was on a pretty poor wifi connection.
I tried to tether to my 5800 on ATT 3G but the bluetooth on the 5800 kept on turning off so I just gave up.
The kinetic scrolling on every screen was great. Switching desktops was a breeze and I could see how great it will be to be able to run complete desktops with different purposes, work, play, media etc.

There is a nice polish and sheen to things such as application manager. Within the application manager (it was the Extra's enabled not extras' devel) there are some interesting widgets. An AP news streamer, an amazon widget, Dataviz documents to Go and some various plugins such as Picassa support, Qik etc. The wifi connection was so bad I couldn't download the 5.2 mb Dataviz suite after 10 minutes :mad:
If packages are appropriately labeled browsing the repository should be an enjoyable experience.
The media player seems to be proficient enough that most users probably won't need to use an alternative player. I plugged in a set of headphones some decent quality earbuds from Shure and listened to the music player with the stock mp3's. It sounded decent I couldn't tell a difference between the N900 or my iPod touch with probably a 160-192kb mp3. I played the N900 movie and it looked stunning. The speakers are not as loud as the N810 I think but still pretty damn loud with good separation.

I tried the bounce game and the graphics were amazing, very high quality and the accelerometer seemed very sensitive and well tuned.

Web browsing on the device was really, really good if not great. I have been spoiled with Bundyo's Tear and I can't wait to see what that browser can do on this device. I loaded up a few websites such as facebook regular and lite, CNN.com, espn.com and had them all running very well in different windows. I then loaded youtube and noticed my first slowdown from using the device. I had some very heavy pages loaded but I think saying that you can multitask EVERY window is a bit of a stretch. Once I closed espn.com the youtube site seemed to respond much better. I had no stuttering at all which was strange as the wifi connection was so bad. That video from jkk seems to be an anomaly or perhaps he had too many windows open already.

The camera took high quality pictures and processed them very quickly, definitely the same quality as an N96 or N97 though. No services were setup and I didn't feel like logging in with any of my personal accounts but all the menus popped up quickly and smoothly. I wanted to bluetooth a picture to my 5800 to share here but once again my 5800 failed :rolleyes:

I added a contact and saw there are so many fields and contact services you can enter you can lose count quickly. It is very easy to add these. As I mentioned before there was no SIM in the device but I did test the portrait mode and held the device up to my face. A little big but definitely usable.

There are many more things I did but I will stop here. The biggest thing I can say is that Nokia have something special here. Even after using s60 mobile phones for years and maemo tablets for years, there is something great about having all this power in your hands/pocket with OR WITHOUT a cellular connection. The increase in processor power is exactly what maemo needed to truly realize its destiny. This does not feel like a phone yet though, it is still a mini - computer. The sheer amount of customization completely destroys the competition and will be a blessing for some users and a curse for others. You can do as much with the N900 as you can any netbook and then you also have a phone capabilities and multimedia capabilities. Once Easy Debian is up and running with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse you will have a great little palmtop.

I can see why Nokia is labeling this a multimedia computer and not a smartphone because comparing this experience to an iPhone or a Blackberry is actually unfair to all of the devices.

Needless to say I LOVE THIS DEVICE am going to buy one as soon as they are shipping and I am going to dump Symbian probably for ever.

Questions? ( I will try and answer any questions people may have over the weekend). If you go to Nokia flagship in NYC they have two protos I think behind the counter, just ask. I wasn't able to shoot anything I had my little HV20 to do some HD hands on but the manager refused to let me shoot.

zerojay
2009-09-11, 22:53
Remember also that what you played with was a prototype. Final hardware as well as the final firmware still are being worked on, and it should only get better from here. :)

Jaffa
2009-09-11, 22:55
You see why those of us who have used the device, at Nokia World or elsewhere are excited now? :-D

dansus
2009-09-11, 22:56
Guess i better repost mine here....

I spent about 20mins with the device and overall i was impressed, any doubts i had about owning the N900 are now long gone.

I started playing with Karsten's 3D text app which projected messages on to the side of a building which showed off the accelerometer as i moved around text sucked up from Facebook,Twitter and others streaming across a 100ft+ wall. I felt like a Borg taking in the worlds thoughts.

Hardware wise it feels solid and natural in the hand, the keyboard was immediately usable and the learning curve was working out where all the usual keys are and adjusting to the offset spacebar, after 10mins i was flowing nicely. The thing that slowed me down was shifting for 1+2 because theres only one shift key on the left, it was annoying to try and press two keys so close to each other. So a left and right shift key here would be ideal.

The sreen felt solid and there was no sense of give or squishiness, responsiveness was fine in most cases, moving widgets around the home screen was instant and the only part that reminded me of M4, the rest is all new. At times the home screen and photo app wouldnt respond well to short swipes, you need to use a confident and firm swipe to activate it but if you use your nail it was very sensitive, maybe thats by design, maybe screen tech, but i remember what Quim said about the sensitivity being dialled down by design. The rest of the UI responded well to short swipes.

I had a chance to go through the process of setting up new widgets, email, photos and have a look around the repo, it felt like home, easy to use and the UI flowed nicely, I dont think ive ever picked up a new UI so quickly.

I plugged in my quality headphones and jammed while exploring the device, the audio didnt hesitate while doing other stuff and the quality was on par with other N-Series but didnt have time to fully pass judgement. The 2 videos i played worked and looked nice without any obvious judder or smearing but again hard to judge without using my own sources.

The only thing i didnt get to play with sadly was the browser due to lack of connectivity but kinetic scrolling in the repo was sa-weeet.

I know people are saying its not a NIT any more and its just a smartphone but when you use it, you really feel like your using a device that is more than a smartphone and im really excited about getting my N900.

mykenyc
2009-09-11, 22:59
damn i wasn't going to get it cause of the whole step 4 thing because i was scared now im definitely getting it!!!!!!!!!!!

dansus
2009-09-11, 23:19
Needless to say I LOVE THIS DEVICE am going to buy one as soon as they are shipping and I am going to dump Symbian probably for ever.


May i be churlish and suggest that we will most likely be early adopters of future symbian. ;)

Im off to Nokia PR event tomorrow, hopefully i will get to play with the browser. :D

steve4130
2009-09-11, 23:36
Hi all, and thanks for sharing your first impressions of (hopefully) my next phone / computer.

Just a couple of questions though if you don't mind answering them. Nothing technical or complicated, just things that i've not seen answered from reading countless reviews and watching pretty much every video available.

1. I know that everything is in landscape except for the phone functions, but what about when viewing photos? If I have a portrait picture will that display as a tiny picture in landscape orientation, or will it fill the screen in portrait orientation? Or, better yet, does the accelerometer work when viewing photos?

2. And, sticking with the picture viewing, how do you zoom into and out of photos when viewing them? I'm guessing the volume rocker?

3. Is there a voice recorder app as on Nokias S60 handsets?

4. When capturing video, presumably its fixed focus, but is the focus set for nearby objects (the same as the N95 for example) or for further away (the same as the N97)?

I do have a few more questions (such as MSN integration) but they won't be as easily answered until after the device is released.

Thanks very much for any info :)

Jaffa
2009-09-11, 23:50
1. I know that everything is in landscape except for the phone functions, but what about when viewing photos? If I have a portrait picture will that display as a tiny picture in landscape orientation, or will it fill the screen in portrait orientation? Or, better yet, does the accelerometer work when viewing photos?

It uses the accelerometer to know the orientation of the device when you take the photo, and the photo viewer also uses the accelerometer to show the picture the right way up for whichever way you hold the device. So, if you take a picture in portrait, and view it in landscape; it'll be small. Turn the device and it'll fill the screen.

2. And, sticking with the picture viewing, how do you zoom into and out of photos when viewing them? I'm guessing the volume rocker?

That's the only mechanism I've seen.

3.. Is there a voice recorder app as on Nokias S60 handsets?

Not in the image I've seen (apart from video). Would be trivial for someone to write, though.

4. When capturing video, presumably its fixed focus, but is the focus set for nearby objects (the same as the N95 for example) or for further away (the same as the N97)?

It seemed to do the same half-press-to-focus trick that you'd expect from an auto-focus camera. However, I'm not sure.

I do have a few more questions (such as MSN integration)

Collabora and zerojay are working on additional Telepathy protocols, such as Facebook Chat, MSN, IRC etc. etc.

Laughing Man
2009-09-11, 23:52
I have a few questions if you guys don't mind answering please.

1) Can you actually use fingers like the iPhone / iPod Touch (to a certain extent), or do you have to rely on fingernails? It's hard to tell by the video.

2) Does the screen attract fingerprints and smudges?

3) What features does the camera have? Can it take decent pics closer to most basic digital cameras or is it closer to the cellphone camera side?

I probably have more but I can't think of them right now..

elimoon8
2009-09-12, 00:03
Can a media/flash intensive site like hulu work on the N900?

dansus
2009-09-12, 00:54
I have a few questions if you guys don't mind answering please.

1) Can you actually use fingers like the iPhone / iPod Touch (to a certain extent).

2) Does the screen attract fingerprints and smudges?



Yes on both.

timsamoff
2009-09-12, 01:01
1) Can you actually use fingers like the iPhone / iPod Touch (to a certain extent), or do you have to rely on fingernails? It's hard to tell by the video.

You can use your fingertips much more adequately than with the screens of the past. Fingernails (or the stylus) is still needed for some functions (e.g., selecting multiple images).

2) Does the screen attract fingerprints and smudges?

Yes. Terribly. :p

3) What features does the camera have? Can it take decent pics closer to most basic digital cameras or is it closer to the cellphone camera side?

Automatic, Macro, Portrait, Landscape, Action, and Auto video. Closer to a digital camera then a cell phone.

Tim

timsamoff
2009-09-12, 01:05
Can a media/flash intensive site like hulu work on the N900?
Just tried Hulu and it was unbearably slow. It worked, though.

Tim

harisund
2009-09-12, 02:34
And you are making us AT&T 3G customers jealous :( I want one too!

christexaport
2009-09-12, 03:21
I think alot of people with the N900 will have Wifi access in most places, but i'd be jealous if I were with att.

By the way, the camera interface is near standard Nseries touch camera interface. It's familiar if you've had an N95 or N97

joeD
2009-09-12, 03:22
The speakers are not as loud as the N810 I think but still pretty damn loud with good separation.

That is a shame that they are not as loud, but are they the same quality?

I think the N810 has amazing sound quality for a pocket device and was hoping the n900 was on par if not exceeding the N810 in this area.

Otaku
2009-09-12, 03:37
Hi there,

Could you see any signs of a digital compass, maybe in the maps application for example?

Thanks!

zerojay
2009-09-12, 03:42
Hi there,

Could you see any signs of a digital compass, maybe in the maps application for example?

Thanks!

It's already been long confirmed that there is no digital compass.

Munk
2009-09-12, 06:07
Dang, I personally don't know if I can swing the $650-700 for this. I just canceled my pre-order device on expansys because it is now back up to $649. Add tax and it's another $58!

I Love my N810 as my previous N800 but those were more affordable. This is not.

UCOMM
2009-09-12, 06:22
order via amazon, no tax, free shipping, direct from nokia!

ysss
2009-09-12, 06:31
It's interesting to see how the retailers are tweaking their (preorder) prices as we get closer to launch. It's obviously being adjusted based on the coming orders and also the messages from the competitors (and principal).

mobiledivide
2009-09-12, 19:28
That is a shame that they are not as loud, but are they the same quality?

I think the N810 has amazing sound quality for a pocket device and was hoping the n900 was on par if not exceeding the N810 in this area.

I can't answer definitively but I would say it's about the same quality. There was too much background noise to be certain but it sounded decent.

timsamoff
2009-09-13, 00:14
The N900's speakers are about the same quality as the N810's -- especially good for using the speaker phone. What's better, though, is the quality (and volume) when using headphones -- even Bluetooth A2DP. So much nicer than the N810.

Tim

law138
2009-09-14, 20:09
I tryed today at the the flagship store the phone is off the hook the guy there told me they will be pushing it back till mid nov that they got a letter from nokia headquarters i hope this is no true cause i see on the homepage here that is coming out the 27 of this month here is a reply to some one asking me my like and dislikes of the phone.




Well i like how fast it is having the n97 you can really see how fast it is when going from wallpaper to wallpaper and having pages loading. The size? I had look at a lot of pics of the phone and youtube vids where people had put the n97 right next to the n900 and the n900 didnt look that much bigger but when you really do have it in front of you and in your hands it is much bigger well to me it was i dont know if this is good or bad thing because i was happy with the size i felt like the n97 was the size for a female and the n900 was more for a man. The speakers were good i mean i was able to hear the songs from the music player and it was people in the store and the store had there own music playing but i couldnt tell if they were better then the n96 that phone to me had the best speakers from all the nseries phones. Now to the web browser this had to be the best web browser i have ever use in my life on a phone. In my short time using it the flash player in the phone makes web browser so much better and sealed the deal for me to get the phone. I dont know if remember when the Iphone phone came out they were saying before the phone came out that this is how the web should look like you are on a computer well no the n900 shows you how the web should look no blue boxes cause there is no flash player. I went to this site that i allways go on to test the phones web browser and it load just it would on my home computer and when i clicked on a song on the site it play clearly now i know u can do this with skyfire but the song wont sound good on the n900 it sounded like it was play from my computer. ok to rap this up i do want to say i wanted to find out more things about the phone like how does it work on 3g the phone was on wifi in the store so u know that eveything is going to load fast also when the guy said that he would let me see the n900 he said i had to wait for it to charge so this brings something else i would like to know the battery life i asked the guy that let me see the phone and he could not tell me he stated that he didnt bring it home to see yet but all and all this phone will i think be the best phone ever and i have had a lot of phones nokia n95 n96 now n97 also had iphone 1st gen and iphone 3gs oh yea and a g1.

zerojay
2009-09-14, 20:36
i felt like the n97 was the size for a female and the n900 was more for a man.

From this wall of text, this is pretty much the only line I was able to understand... and... I don't really understand it either. :confused:

lorelei
2009-09-14, 20:37
Thanks for the report, but it would have been better if you appended it to the already running thread: Hands on with the N900 : Community Thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31572)

It's nice to have all information in one place :)

-lorelei

Reggie
2009-09-14, 20:39
Thanks for the report, but it would have been better if you appended it to the already running thread: Hands on with the N900 : Community Thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31572)

It's nice to have all information in one place :)

-lorelei

Thread merged.

RogerS
2009-09-14, 20:45
I'll post all of my under-one-hour's experience, but the first strongest impression was how multi-tasky the N900 is.

I don't know where the performance starts to suffer, but in my finger-on-screen time and in two days' observing others using it, I saw many, many windows/apps open and never a sign of a slow-down.

I don't expect a pocket device to replace a netbook or laptop, but when I'm using it in lieu of a larger-in-every-way machine, I don't want to keep running into barriers that remind me of that.

The barriers have to be there. But I didn't catch sight of a one. Unbelievable.

RogerS

Bratag
2009-09-14, 20:56
I'll post all of my under-one-hour's experience, but the first strongest impression was how multi-tasky the N900 is.

I don't know where the performance starts to suffer, but in my finger-on-screen time and in two days' observing others using it, I saw many, many windows/apps open and never a sign of a slow-down.

I don't expect a pocket device to replace a netbook or laptop, but when I'm using it in lieu of a larger-in-every-way machine, I don't want to keep running into barriers that remind me of that.

The barriers have to be there. But I didn't catch sight of a one. Unbelievable.


RogerS


Makes me very happy to read this. That was my biggest gripe with android phones I have used.

Also Multi-Tasky should be added to the lexicon

BadMojoUT
2009-09-14, 21:00
I'll post all of my under-one-hour's experience, but the first strongest impression was how multi-tasky the N900 is.

I don't know where the performance starts to suffer, but in my finger-on-screen time and in two days' observing others using it, I saw many, many windows/apps open and never a sign of a slow-down.

I don't expect a pocket device to replace a netbook or laptop, but when I'm using it in lieu of a larger-in-every-way machine, I don't want to keep running into barriers that remind me of that.

The barriers have to be there. But I didn't catch sight of a one. Unbelievable.

RogerS

That's really good to hear. Imagine what things will be like when the ARM Cortex A9 (multicore) processors finally show up in mobile devices.

Ahhh, good times.

ming387
2009-09-14, 21:01
Youtube did not slow down the multitasking, youtube and flash video on the n900 is known to perform poorly.

They probably need to tweak the code a bit because I've tried the n900 running with a full video and no hiccups with other webpages and tasks open.

Ayle
2009-09-15, 03:20
Can anyone test it with an AT&T sim and report just how bad is the browsing speed with edge?

anidel
2009-09-15, 10:51
I'll post all of my under-one-hour's experience, but the first strongest impression was how multi-tasky the N900 is.

I don't know where the performance starts to suffer, but in my finger-on-screen time and in two days' observing others using it, I saw many, many windows/apps open and never a sign of a slow-down.

I don't expect a pocket device to replace a netbook or laptop, but when I'm using it in lieu of a larger-in-every-way machine, I don't want to keep running into barriers that remind me of that.

The barriers have to be there. But I didn't catch sight of a one. Unbelievable.

RogerS

Even the beast used to render The Lord of The Rings slowed down when rendering the final movie.

Keep that in mind and remember that all devices will slow down if you throw too much stuff at it.

But definitely the hardware in the N900 (and that's the very same that's in the iPhone 3GS) is more than capable of handling real multitasking as we've seen from the videos.

Aniello

bheetebrij
2009-09-15, 11:12
Thanks for those hands-on reports from "real" people. It was really good to read. It just makes me more excited about it. I have already preordered the phone, but have a question I'd like to ask you all to kill the curiosity until the phone arrives.

I use Skype to make calls to other Skype users and land lines. I know Skype to Skype is supported in the contacts view and it looks very easy to launch, but is there a "button" to call a land line through Skype as opposed to cellular?

TIA for any info!!

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 13:17
Had some time with the N900 over the weekend. Beautiful, solid powerful little thing. So much potential under the hood to be the 'smartphone' I've always wanted all my other Nokia handsets to be.

Hands on review (http://tinyurl.com/N900MNB)
Comparison Photos: N900 vs N800 vs N82 vs N95 vs N97 (http://tinyurl.com/N900CMP)

Den in USA
2009-09-15, 13:56
How well does the GPS receiver work in comparison to the N810?

VDVsx
2009-09-15, 14:27
How well does the GPS receiver work in comparison to the N810?

Well, Roger can answer it better, but according to him, his n810 took around 4 minutes to get a fix, while lcuk's n900 took around 40 seconds :) (London area).

zerojay
2009-09-15, 14:31
Had some time with the N900 over the weekend. Beautiful, solid powerful little thing. So much potential under the hood to be the 'smartphone' I've always wanted all my other Nokia handsets to be.

Hands on review (http://tinyurl.com/N900MNB)
Comparison Photos: N900 vs N800 vs N82 vs N95 vs N97 (http://tinyurl.com/N900CMP)

"Not going to go on a resistive/capacitive debate but being resistive, you do need more pressure on the screen than resistive." <-- I think you mean "you do need more pressure on the screen than capacitive."

"I’m a bit converned about how much of a dust magnet" <--- concerned

"just subtle enough to hide the scree." <-- screen

"The browser is Mozilla’s Fennec Fox," <-- NO, incorrect. The browser is not Fennec, but is good ole Microb as we've had in Maemo for a while which is based upon Firefox.

Good stuff. Thanks.

R-R
2009-09-15, 14:41
Hands on review (http://tinyurl.com/N900MNB)

From the page:
Note the compass which isn’t listed in the official specs (neither was infrared – TV/DVD Remote applications again ^_^)

I may still be the only one dreaming but are you saying that rotating on yourself actually made the compass work !? :D

nilchak
2009-09-15, 14:45
I use Skype to make calls to other Skype users and land lines. I know Skype to Skype is supported in the contacts view and it looks very easy to launch, but is there a "button" to call a land line through Skype as opposed to cellular?

TIA for any info!!

I dont know about the new N900 device itself, but Skype for Maemo (4) on N810 had a dialer - so you can dial any number - even land lines.

mhotep
2009-09-15, 14:46
Had some time with the N900 over the weekend. Beautiful, solid powerful little thing. So much potential under the hood to be the 'smartphone' I've always wanted all my other Nokia handsets to be.

Hands on review (http://tinyurl.com/N900MNB)
Comparison Photos: N900 vs N800 vs N82 vs N95 vs N97 (http://tinyurl.com/N900CMP)

Thanks for the report. So this was the final build? Would love to see some reports of what may have been fixed between the previous version we've seen and the final build to see what changed.

zerojay
2009-09-15, 14:49
I use Skype to make calls to other Skype users and land lines. I know Skype to Skype is supported in the contacts view and it looks very easy to launch, but is there a "button" to call a land line through Skype as opposed to cellular?

The dialer has a button used to decide which network you want the call to go through. I'm pretty sure you'll find Cellular, SIP over Wifi and Skype there, but I can't say for sure.

McChicken
2009-09-15, 15:42
sorry could not open those linnks...my Virus / firewall protection kicked-in....up-date
was able to see the comparison pics on some blog..thanks, but if there is another way to see your hands-on it would be great.

Laughing Man
2009-09-15, 16:16
Got a UI question. When in application running view where you can see all running apps is it possible to close apps from there or do you have to enter each running app and close it?

kanishou
2009-09-15, 16:33
Got a UI question. When in application running view where you can see all running apps is it possible to close apps from there or do you have to enter each running app and close it?

You can close each window directly from the task switcher, by tapping on the little X in the corner (the action area is bigger than it looks like, so it works very well).

SubCore
2009-09-15, 16:36
Had some time with the N900 over the weekend. Beautiful, solid powerful little thing. So much potential under the hood to be the 'smartphone' I've always wanted all my other Nokia handsets to be.

Hands on review (http://tinyurl.com/N900MNB)
Comparison Photos: N900 vs N800 vs N82 vs N95 vs N97 (http://tinyurl.com/N900CMP)

Very nice reviews!

Though there is one thing i have to critizise :)
you write "Note the compass which isn’t listed in the official specs" while referring to a screenshot of ovi maps.

Are you sure it's a real compass? what made you write this? because to me it looks like the north-indicator of ovi maps, and not an actual compass functionality...

also, you should probably proofread the article again, i think there are a few times when you write "n97" but actually meant n900, and a few typos as well ("converned" f.ex.)

ysss
2009-09-15, 16:45
If only Nokia learns from Microsoft.. we would all have our N900 in our hands today:

Microsoft decided to hold on loading up any usable software until the new Zunes were out to market. What that means is that we have yet to do any serious testing with the new device -- despite having the gem sitting right here.

....

these devices are being sold to end users in the same condition our unit is in -- namely, without any real functioning software. It's a pretty unusual move for a company like Microsoft to put devices into the hands of consumers with no functionality at all, but it seems the Zune team was cranking till the last minute. Let's hope all the hard work pays off!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/zune-hd-unboxing-and-hands-on/

Kozzi
2009-09-15, 16:57
Note the compass which isn’t listed in the official specs (neither was infrared – TV/DVD Remote applications again ^_^)

Well, this sure makes me hope that the digital compass is there but like infrared, it's just not listed in specs for some reason.

ragnar
2009-09-15, 16:58
If only Nokia learns from Microsoft.. we would all have our N900 in our hands today:

"these devices are being sold to end users in the same condition our unit is in -- namely, without any real functioning software"

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/zune-hd-unboxing-and-hands-on/

... Are you sure that is a learning that Nokia should take into use? Ship devices with no working software to consumers?

ragnar
2009-09-15, 17:00
you write "Note the compass which isn’t listed in the official specs" while referring to a screenshot of ovi maps.

Are you sure it's a real compass? what made you write this? because to me it looks like the north-indicator of ovi maps, and not an actual compass functionality...


Maps has a compass looking button to change the orientation of the map, and another small button that appears on screen if the map is outside where the user is.

texaslabrat
2009-09-15, 17:00
... Are you sure that is a learning that Nokia should take into use? Ship devices with no working software to consumers?

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I'm not sure that approach is a good thing LOL.

Me: Yay my N900 arrived! Hrm, just a blank desktop with no cell connectivity. Well, it sure looks cool! Maybe in a week or two they'll update it with actual software. Yay!

ysss
2009-09-15, 17:01
@ragnar: Sorry, I couldn't find the sarcasm font. I tried setting bold to the ridiculous portions. I thought it was obvious enough.

ragnar
2009-09-15, 17:03
Ah, sorry then. :) It's the curse of the internets. Sometimes some perfectly good sarcasm goes wasted. :)

Laughing Man
2009-09-15, 17:09
Sarcasm tags are..

=P

GeneralAntilles
2009-09-15, 17:15
@ragnar: Sorry, I couldn't find the sarcasm font. I tried setting bold to the ridiculous portions. I thought it was obvious enough.

You want one of: :rolleyes: :D :p ;)

:rolleyes:

ysss
2009-09-15, 17:17
ok ok, just read the ridiculous news already =P

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 19:30
"I’m a bit converned about how much of a dust magnet" <--- concerned

"just subtle enough to hide the scree." <-- screen

"The browser is Mozilla’s Fennec Fox," <-- NO, incorrect. The browser is not Fennec, but is good ole Microb as we've had in Maemo for a while which is based upon Firefox.

Good stuff. Thanks.
Oh hey thanks for finding my typos and mistake on MircoB. Appreciate it :) Very cool that people are reading enough of it and paying that much attention to notice :D

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 19:35
Thanks for the report. So this was the final build? Would love to see some reports of what may have been fixed between the previous version we've seen and the final build to see what changed.
As far as we were told, these N900s were final in physical build. No more changes apparently (which means you can still force the slide to wobble a bit, unless that was just a batch problem).

Valerio's been using an N900 for much longer than most people, and he's aware of what changes has happened since in terms of software and physical build.

http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?p=266
"The software is now a bit more polished, the animations are smoother...."

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 19:48
Very nice reviews!

Though there is one thing i have to critizise :)
you write "Note the compass which isn’t listed in the official specs" while referring to a screenshot of ovi maps.

Are you sure it's a real compass? what made you write this? because to me it looks like the north-indicator of ovi maps, and not an actual compass functionality...

I will check back on compass functionality.

EDIT: erm k.

I don't know if this is real but here's the N900 using that IR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24qk2uMXA

I have the utmost basic grasp of Maemo - I'm just more of a user

also, you should probably proofread the article again, i think there are a few times when you write "n97" but actually meant n900, and a few typos as well ("converned" f.ex.)yup, fixed the typo with concerned (highlighted by zerojay). I went through the N97 mix ups, there was one. All the others are comparisons with the N97 (though my wording may have made it slightly confusing)

kopte3
2009-09-15, 19:58
How did you get one for testing? :)

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 20:05
sorry could not open those linnks...my Virus / firewall protection kicked-in....up-date
was able to see the comparison pics on some blog..thanks, but if there is another way to see your hands-on it would be great.
Hey, they're links to a very badly organized blog. :s It's not very mobile friendly either and will cause phones to crash.
I'm going to be moving it to wordpress.org sometime in the future so I can make it slightly easier to navigate (though not any time soon as I reckon I'll end up deleting my blog or something - I'm not that much of a techy person)

pelago
2009-09-15, 20:44
JayMontano, thanks for the article. One thing:
As a glimpse into the future, you may already be aware that Maemo 6 Harmattan, will be compatible on the N900.
I don't think we know that at all, do we? Did someone say that it was at your event?

VDVsx
2009-09-15, 20:53
Valerio's been using an N900 for much longer than most people, and he's aware of what changes has happened since in terms of software and physical build.

That's not true :), I never had access to the early protos (like the one you saw this weekend). My assumptions are only based in the last protos and in some videos where the vsync issue was present.

JayMontano
2009-09-15, 21:04
That's not true :), I never had access to the early protos (like the one you saw this weekend). My assumptions are only based in the last protos and in some videos where the vsync issue was present.

Ah yes. Apologies. I misinterpreted...

I meant Gary had access to early protos. :rolleyes: