View Full Version : Emulator to run Symbian applications and N-Gage games on Maemo?
poquifox
2010-01-05, 05:28
Is possible a emulator for games on symbian os?
arkanoid
2010-01-05, 05:56
It is certainly possible, but compatibility layer and API translation is enormous amount of work, comparable to Wine project on the desktop. So i doubt we will see it soon.
Is there anyway that we can get our symbian software on our Maemo.. because the maemo has powerful hardware which is better than all n-cerise nokia.
I think most of us has bought a lot of these software that was in symbian and now as we moved to a new system and at the same time we have the same Ovi store.. we should operate our old symbian on Maemo or at least we should have symbian emulator or something like that.
thanx for reading
Less likely, symbian uses a different resolution and different memory alocation + someone would need to code drivers for it, just like on your pc.
Your project might be a little too ambitious:rolleyes:
qwerty12
2010-01-15, 07:31
Just sell the N900 and buy the N97? They practically look similar, anyway.
benny1967
2010-01-15, 08:42
Apart from the technical difficulties (which, I'm sure, could be soved... Come on, people run Windows on the N900!), I wonder how it would baffle Nokia's marketing people if you could dual-boot into a fully functional Symbian OS on the N900. :D
RevdKathy
2010-01-15, 08:49
I'd rather see some of the excellent symbian softwares replicated in Maemo. Soon. ;)
I would never think of N97 which always lack of memory..
I rather staying in n900 and wait for 2 years instead
:p
Yup, 5800 is as far as s60v5 is worth it... from nokia.
I actually wanted to get the omnia HD but... credit card fraud :|
When my money came back, the price difference to N900 was so small I just couldn't help it :D
Symbian emulation would be great! We could finally use Mobipocket again!
BTW I heard that the guys at XDAdevolpers.com have Android running now on a Windows Mobile device, HTC Touch or so...
RevdKathy
2010-01-15, 12:58
Symbian emulation would be great! We could finally use Mobipocket again!
You can probably do that using palm emulation which is already available. But I don't think any emulation will support DRM. I'd be happy to be contradicted on this!
You can probably do that using palm emulation which is already available. But I don't think any emulation will support DRM. I'd be happy to be contradicted on this!
The palm emulation certainly doesn't - it crashes the emulator as soon as I try to open an encrypted file. In general, it should be down to the emulator though - there's no hardware involved for DRM on most of these systems, so there's no reason it couldn't be done.
I'd rather see time invested in Maemo versions of quality apps ;)
russo_br
2010-01-24, 12:55
Watching the news about VMware and Android running on N900 I was wondering if could be possible to come up with an emulator to run Symbian Apps atop Maemo 5...
It seem like a crazy idea and I don't know if it is feasible since I am not a developer and new as a Maemo user. I am sure that it would not be a simple work and also probably wouldn't work for heavy consuming apps, but for sure it would be a solution pretty useful to instantly add lots of new apps to Maemo platform. :cool:
Does anyone know about techincal limitations in the HW or OS to implement such emulation?
jaguilar
2010-01-24, 17:26
Look this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40595
It would be good for running TomTom on it though :)
prajster
2010-02-01, 06:12
Just sell the N900 and buy the N97? They practically look similar, anyway.
ha....u r joking rite.....i have both N97 as well as N900....comparing the two is an insult to N900...maemo 5 is absolutely amazing....apart from the looks they are two completely different stuff....N97 is a phone more like....N900 is more like a mini computer...
Ali bhai
2010-02-01, 20:08
Hey guys, Im new here, and to the whole maemo OS in general, Ive been a symbian nokia fan for soo long, i finally decided to try the n900, the fact that dell had a great price helped me make this decision lol.
Anyways I was wondering the exact same thing, there are soo many nice apps for symbian but im scared I wont be able to find them on maemo. Does anyone know if there are muslim devs out there that can come up with a Qur'an app and one that can give you reminders when the prayers are based on location?
RevdKathy
2010-02-01, 20:14
Anyways I was wondering the exact same thing, there are soo many nice apps for symbian but im scared I wont be able to find them on maemo. Does anyone know if there are muslim devs out there that can come up with a Qur'an app and one that can give you reminders when the prayers are based on location?
As far as I'm aware there isn't anything available right now, but I believe people are looking into either writing or porting suitable applications.
You could ask for what you're looking for here (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41155).
Mas Termind
2010-02-13, 00:42
This is probably a stupid question but i was just curious to ask the pros.
I know there are emulators available to run gameboy games etc but is it possible to run/port symbian apps on the N900 and what are the complications?
I'm not aware of any way to do it currently. With the open-sourcing of the Symbian code-base, and current work on re-implementing the Symbian emulator, there's hope for being able to do this in future though.
arjunkumar87
2010-02-13, 14:35
Symbian needs to be rebuilt in that case :P
P.S: web browser is really a PIA :P
I would like it just so I can run TomTom again :)
badboyuk
2010-02-15, 19:20
im not sure if i want to see another symbian OS again as ive had enough of em. But then again Tomtom was the best app, u knw hw many missions that guided me to?! ;) hehehe
Hopefully they will make 1 for the n900 and it will be even better using it with the bigger screen an perhaps an updated version at least as the 1 on symbian was discontinued as well as the maps which sucked when u got to new roads/streets
im not sure if i want to see another symbian OS again as ive had enough of em. But then again Tomtom was the best app, u knw hw many missions that guided me to?! ;) hehehe
Hopefully they will make 1 for the n900 and it will be even better using it with the bigger screen an perhaps an updated version at least as the 1 on symbian was discontinued as well as the maps which sucked when u got to new roads/streets
symbian^3 looks pretty cool ;) and windows 7 mobile too !!!
i have wonder too if any of the symbian games are coming to maemo, that's what i miss the most of my old phone, games like Chuck norris bring on the pain, all those ubisoft games from pc games/movies, like prince of persia, assassins creed, mission impossible, all those applications for symbian are really missing in maemo, i don't get why nokia doesn't help us, i feel like maemo is more in the hands of users here than in nokias.....
mobiledivide
2010-04-16, 21:44
i feel like maemo is more in the hands of users here than in nokias.....
Ding, ding ding we have a winner!
Edit: I should add that this is the reason why I love maemo and you probably don't:)
Ding, ding ding we have a winner!
Edit: I should add that this is the reason why I love maemo and you probably don't:)
So are you loving the lack of games and applications from big name companys like Ubisoft, EA games, etc?
Livinmalife
2010-04-16, 21:56
So are you loving the lack of games and applications from big name companys like Ubisoft, EA games, etc?
We have all those but on emulators...
Why eat dog food when you could eat steak?
what emulators? D: .. i got ScummVM, Snes, and gba and they're great, but i can't say that i wouldn't like contineous games ports on my phone everytime a movie/game comes out, for example, just checked www.mobi11.com for symbian games and they already have iron man 2 games xD and it's not even out... ubisoft will make prince of persia forgotten sands, etc, and mean while i'm playing bjeweld...that's what i miss
I wanna run symbian apps, like google maps, with full support for GPS and internets, plus make easy migration from symbian > maemo/meego
this would be epic. I wonder since nokia pretty much runs symbian, and the n900 would be epic if they could do this
nicola.mfb
2010-04-17, 03:28
I do not want hurt you, but I really do not understand.
I have an N900, an openmoko freerunner, an ipaq with angstrom, 3 linux box at office and at home, 2 wifi hotspots with openwrt becouse I'll never need symbian/microsoft/mac applications and prefer too much to hack my hardware and software.
I have a DSL at home with a flat landline voip plan and 10 free sms/day that are possibile only when I'm connected to my home router.
I work very far during the week, installed a 5 euro device on my home network with openvpn server, installed openvpn client on my n900, played with a patched asterisk (as my dsl provider does not follow a standard sip protocool) and played two night to have me use with the n900 my voip landline flat plan and send free sms while traveling over the world.
I'm happy with that, and If I need other things, like symbian games, iphone apps, and so on I simply buy a different (and less expensive) device and not waiting years for someone writing an emulator, layer, virtualization system for the n900.
So instead of asking about that, I prefer to bother nokia to fully open any specs on the n900 :)))
Cheers
Niko
I do not want hurt you, but I really do not understand.
I have an N900, an openmoko freerunner, an ipaq with angstrom, 3 linux box at office and at home, 2 wifi hotspots with openwrt becouse I'll never need symbian/microsoft/mac applications and prefer too much to hack my hardware and software.
I have a DSL at home with a flat landline voip plan and 10 free sms/day that are possibile only when I'm connected to my home router.
I work very far during the week, installed a 5 euro device on my home network with openvpn server, installed openvpn client on my n900, played with a patched asterisk (as my dsl provider does not follow a standard sip protocool) and played two night to have me use with the n900 my voip landline flat plan and send free sms while traveling over the world.
I'm happy with that, and If I need other things, like symbian games, iphone apps, and so on I simply buy a different (and less expensive) device and not waiting years for someone writing an emulator, layer, virtualization system for the n900.
So instead of asking about that, I prefer to bother nokia to fully open any specs on the n900 :)))
Cheers
Niko
what are you talking about? :s who said anything about voips? or anything, this is a topic about GAMES, one aspect our maemo is seriously failing, i don't like apple fan boys, because they can't accept that iphone isn't that great, but you're doing just the same thing, maemo is light years behind apple/symbian gaming wise, our top game is what? angry birds? ...just check any symbian app page, like mobi11 and see the games section, and you'll realize your missing something....i love my n900 but i can't just obviate that aspect just because.....
I had an N97 and i sold it out to buy an N900, and I don't regret it AT ALL...is the best phone/tablet/hybrid/whatever-you-want-to-call-it I'd ever had.
But... there were some apps that, even with all the problems the N97 had/have, made it not so unusable and I haven't found any as good as those (some are very close, yes, but not nearly there).
OMWeather for N900 is great, it really is, but I liked Accuweather a lot better (I found it extremely accurate and the "reel feel" feature was amazing).
Also, the N97 English Dictionary App (I'm not talking about the T9 or anything related with SMS, but a Dictionary App supported by Nokia) was awesome and I used it a lot, as English is not my first language, and I miss something like that in the N900, I tried a couple of Dictionary Apps and frankly they suck.
So, yes, I'm in for either a Symbian emulator or an official Maemo version of those apps.
Maybe you could set up a Symbian emulator on your computer and connect to it via VNC. =B
balajian
2010-04-23, 18:38
if have this software our n900 sure got many function!:)
wish...
Hmm.. This would be interesting! I second that if possible..
balajian
2010-04-23, 18:42
wish nokia can do this...haha
Straycat
2010-04-23, 18:46
Wow.
Everybody loves mameo.
But to have funcionality someone would want on the device Ubuntu... some other symbian... some other iphone OS, some other android... some other windows mobile...
Something is really wrong with the software on this device and it isn't his wonderful comunity. This comunity.
Nokia would take note.
sjgadsby
2010-04-23, 18:51
The following threads have been merged to form this thread:
"[SUGGESTION] Emulator for Symbian Apps" with two posts
"symbian on N900" with six posts
"Is Possible an emulator for Symbian Games?" with ten posts
"symbian os ON Maemo... Any appourtonity!" with seventeen posts
"Can do a Symbian Simulator for N900 ?" with four posts
The following threads have been merged to form this thread:
"[SUGGESTION] Emulator for Symbian Apps" with two posts
"symbian on N900" with six posts
"Is Possible an emulator for Symbian Games?" with ten posts
"symbian os ON Maemo... Any appourtonity!" with seventeen posts
"Can do a Symbian Simulator for N900 ?" with four posts
So does that make this thread a Frankenthread, or a Chimaera?
The one game that I would truly like to see on the N900 is Tower Defense
http://cellagames.com/artd.html
My old 1st gen n95 could still pull the wow my mates away from the other smartphone users (even today). All I have is awesome Flash, FF, and an open source platform ;)
I too would like to see an symbian emulator tho.
jigar_p2
2010-05-03, 02:32
hi, is there any one who know how to install nokia n-gage based games on n900. please help me. and also how we can play nokia based games on n900. that has .sis file. extension. :)
sjgadsby
2010-05-03, 04:35
The thread "can we play nokia n-gage games on nokia n900?" with two posts has been merged into this thread.
Will an emulator be needed with qt 4.6 on the horizon?
Probably not. Thats the whole idea behind every screaming jesus at every qt mentioning.
Its supposed to be a tool for cross platform development.
kevinm2k
2010-05-12, 07:20
Symbian dual boot on n900 would be awesome.
Free Nokia Maps
A Fast version of Symbian
All of the Apps
Working Google Maps
Proper iplayer
A better ovi store
Proper syncing with Ovi Suite.
Couldn't lose maemo though, its sooo much better.
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 03:21
Ok now that Symbian is open source and has been open source for a while would it possible to get the Symbian apps running through an emulator on Maemo. I would like this very much because there are many apps that I wish were available for the n900 but just aren't. The only real issue I can see is that Maemo runs in a much higher (800x480) resolution the Symbian devices which run at a resolution at much lower (640x360). What do you guys think.
basically, this would rock!
could we emulate google maps?!?!
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 03:30
could we emulate google maps?!?!
Probably screen resolution issues though but yes a Google maps client.
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 03:31
basically, this would rock!
It could made easily, couldn't it as Symbian is open source.
could we emulate google maps?!?!
I have run the java version of google maps in microemulator. It works, but the user interface isnt what I would call usable.
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 03:39
I have run the java version of google maps in microemulator. It works, but the user interface isnt what I would call usable.
Well many Symbian apps are just J2me apps such as Doodle Jump.
Awesome idea, we are already able to use .jar files but if we can even open .sis(x) (Symbian) files then we can nearly beat the amount of the iPhone apps with the N900 :>
sjgadsby
2010-05-28, 03:53
The thread "Symbian s60v3 and s60v5 emulators" with seven posts has been merged into this thread.
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 04:22
Awesome idea, we are already able to use .jar files but if we can even open .sis(x) (Symbian) files then we can nearly beat the amount of the iPhone apps with the N900 :>
Well there is Garnet os VM that unofficially runs just fine on the Nokia n900 and palm os does help achieve having near iPhone/Android amount of apps.
railroadmaster
2010-05-28, 04:23
As dated and as crappy as Symbian is boy does it have apps. It has lots and lots of apps all of which n900 owners are deprived of sadface :(.
maxximuscool
2010-05-31, 01:45
Hello, I am wandering if it even possible to create an emulator for an application of Symbian device to run on N900.
For example, Ovi Map 3.04 on Symbian
If it is possible then we can solve so many missing functionality or applications to N900 like Voice Nagivation.
Well, this is what I saw in my dream last night lol.
Speculation is welcome
abill_uk
2010-05-31, 02:01
I suggest you have a look on this page as it explains how to run Qt for S60 SDK on Linux.
It is getting better lol.
http://lizardo.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/running-qt-for-s60-sdk-on-linux/
maxximuscool
2010-05-31, 02:16
cool but if this even possible on N900 yet? lol have you tried?
abill_uk
2010-05-31, 02:33
Not going to be easy to emulate, i think better to port Symbian over to linux.
sjgadsby
2010-05-31, 02:36
The thread "Symbian Application Emulator?" with four posts has been merged into this thread.
kryptoniankid17
2010-05-31, 02:59
As dated and as crappy as Symbian is boy does it have apps. It has lots and lots of apps all of which n900 owners are deprived of sadface :(.
Wow dated. I guess android is much better because it looks shiny?
railroadmaster
2010-06-13, 19:21
Wow dated. I guess android is much better because it looks shiny?
Come on Symbian is pretty hard to use and looks really ugly these days. Sorry but classic Windows Mobile is More usable than Symbian how ever Symbian ^3 should help Symbian catch up with everyone else. Also for some reason people consider Google Android to geeky and I really don't understand that. Maybe people have expected too much simplicity from having iPhones so much.
AgogData
2010-10-10, 17:07
is there any symbian emulator ? there is java emulator but what about .sis games and applications ? is that possible ?
nicholes
2010-10-10, 17:10
is there any symbian emulator ? there is java emulator but what about .sis games and applications ? is that possible ?
very good idea i have not seen anything taht can rus sis. lets wait for others comments!
DaReaper
2010-10-10, 17:14
Yes i was thinking about this long back , the ability to emulate .sis or .sisx files would be great :D .
But i don't know how easy would it be to create an emulator of such kind .
sjgadsby
2010-10-10, 17:22
The thread ".sis emulator?" (3 posts) has been merged into this thread.
I think an API(much like WINE) would be better then an emu... although the final and best solution would be to rewrite the most popular symbian apps and write the new ones for Qt. If only Ovi maps was written for Qt for crying out loud....
arkanoid
2010-10-12, 12:52
Actually such a thing SHOULD be top priority for Nokia. Because it is only way to bring Symbian decent and peaceful death, not harming anyone.
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