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TripleNickle
2005-11-16, 14:42
http://www.mobilegazette.com/nokia-770-review-051116.htm

Anyone here care to comment on their experience? I hope this is not the case!

Nickster
2005-11-16, 15:03
I have trouble connecting to the wifi network sometimes - usually takes me two attempts.

henry
2005-11-16, 15:08
My wifi router (Sitecom WL-114) is located in the living room on ground floor. I can connect from the second floor with the 770 without any problem.

mtoneman
2005-11-16, 16:11
I never have any problems connecting to relatively distant AP's. Maybe the reviewed unit had a bad WIFI antenna connection (since he/she had trouble connecting to all networks).

Bill
2005-11-16, 16:16
No problems here either, using it on Sitecom an Linksys AP's, might be your router settings...

Kevint
2005-11-16, 16:43
Works all over the house with my Netgear DG834G and my neighbours unsecure Belkin ;)

Kevin

TripleNickle
2005-11-16, 22:12
Works all over the house with my Netgear DG834G and my neighbours unsecure Belkin ;)

Kevin


LOL.. gotta "love thy neighbors!"... lol

frenchie
2005-11-17, 00:52
I was worried about that issue. Hopefully it is just a bad review unit (oh all the faults in the world it had to be a bad review unit). Hopefully whatever the problem is it is just a simple one.

mrmurdstone
2005-11-17, 01:02
This guy got a bad unit from Nokia according to this update on mobilegazette:

http://www.mobilegazette.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57&sid=afffb51feef7b9a57b75db131f9942e0

MikeB
2005-11-17, 05:20
I haven't had any problems connecting to my router at home or when connecting via a peer-to-peer network to my laptop at work... In fact, I was amazed that I could stay connected to my laptop after walking down the hall to the conference room.

I have noticed that it works better if I connect while close to the laptop and then go to the conference room. I tried waiting until I was in the conference room and it would not connect.

pycage
2005-11-17, 10:44
I never had problems connecting to WLAN with the 770. It even finds LANs which my laptop cannot detect.

Strawberry
2005-11-20, 16:24
My wifi router (Sitecom WL-114) is located in the living room on ground floor. I can connect from the second floor with the 770 without any problem.

I've exactly the same problem, with a D-LINK ROUTER.

Also N9500 work perfectly in the same place and same moment, when instead N770 doesn't work at all.

How to say !.... :(

This is really a shame, as use of tablet it's totally OUT in some areas of the house.

Rgds

Samuel
2005-11-20, 16:54
I've exactly the same problem, with a D-LINK ROUTER.

Which one ?

Strawberry
2005-11-21, 21:48
Poor connection trough wifi. It's totally hard to listen/transmit on wifi, where a N9500 work, this tablet NOT WORK, or often has a small capacity to maintain a link on wifi.

Bye

RogerS
2005-11-21, 22:18
I too have had zero problems with connecting and staying connected all over our three-story house (well, I haven't tried in the basement yet), with a Linksys WAP on the second-floor at one end of the house.

BTW, I bought this WAP for $27, so it's not like it's the top of the line.

And I too have noticed that the 770 picks up far more WiFinetworks than my IBM Thinkpad.

andymulhearn
2005-11-21, 22:46
I too have had zero problems with connecting and staying connected all over our three-story house (well, I haven't tried in the basement yet), with a Linksys WAP on the second-floor at one end of the house.

BTW, I bought this WAP for $27, so it's not like it's the top of the line.

And I too have noticed that the 770 picks up far more WiFinetworks than my IBM Thinkpad.

And the same with my iBook. The 770 finds a Netgear and Airport close by which the iBook hasn't spotted.

MishaS
2005-11-21, 23:59
Poor connection trough wifi. It's totally hard to listen/transmit on wifi, where a N9500 work, this tablet NOT WORK, or often has a small capacity to maintain a link on wifi.
You mentioned some d-link access point. Can you give its model number? :)

Smiley Dan
2005-11-22, 13:05
No problems at home, occasionally have problems getting a connection at work but nothing that a few more tries doesn't fix.

Titus
2005-11-22, 13:44
To get connected is sometimes a bit quirky, at least with my router (Buffalo). I first assumed it has something to do with range to AP, but now I believe it has nothing to do with it, it does the same whether the range. Sometimes it needs several retries to get connected. After initial struggle, it usually keeps connection well. I have had best odds (0-2 retry needs), if I enable wlan first using connection manager before opening browser. If I open browser first (wlan off), it needs half of dozen retries, before I have stable connection. This is pure empiric testing, don't have any ideas why.
Maybe this is the reason for Mobile Gazette's assumption: You first try it in 10 meters range:not working, second try 5 meters: not working, third 1 meter: working. Assumption:Range problem.

GLeoni
2005-12-07, 00:05
Just got my 770 Saturday. Connects flawlessly to my network (D-Link). Works great except.....when going to other parts of town, my device sees other open/unlocked wi-fi networks, connects to these networks (per the connection manager), however, when trying to surf the web, states "network problem". I am unable to surf the web. This has happened to atleast 30-40 wi-fi networks. Any suggestions ?

Cheers,

Greg

centauria
2005-12-07, 17:01
Just got my 770 Saturday. Connects flawlessly to my network (D-Link). Works great except.....when going to other parts of town, my device sees other open/unlocked wi-fi networks, connects to these networks (per the connection manager), however, when trying to surf the web, states "network problem". I am unable to surf the web. This has happened to atleast 30-40 wi-fi networks. Any suggestions

Are you sure those networks are not internal networks i.e. don't have access to the internet? Just a thought..

I haven't had any problems with the connection quality, just wish that WPA-PSK would work with my D-Link router.

Jerome
2005-12-08, 16:19
I also have unstable wifi connection (reported to Nokia). I think that the problem is the opposite of what people think, however. My 770 has very, very high sensitivity. Much better than my powerbook, for example. So it picks up more networks, and presumably more interference.

At my home my 770 detects at least 4 networks and I have unstable connections. If you have stable connections, how many networks does your 770 see?

Another possibility is that I have a problem with WPA-PSK. It works (on my Netgear router), but maybe this is the reason why the connection is unstable.

Samuel
2005-12-08, 16:58
I also have unstable wifi connection (reported to Nokia).
Which firmware version are you running ?

Jerome
2005-12-08, 23:04
How do I know? In device, "About product" reports:
"Version: 2.2005.45-7"
I think this is the latest version, but I could be mistaken.

Enberg
2005-12-08, 23:26
Hi!
I have a dlink DI-614 and had problems until I changed to enter key in hex in the control panel. Before the 770 would connect to router but when trying access tthe net I'd recive a network error. Now everything works.

lenfischer
2005-12-08, 23:31
Just got my 770 Saturday. Connects flawlessly to my network (D-Link). Works great except.....when going to other parts of town, my device sees other open/unlocked wi-fi networks, connects to these networks (per the connection manager), however, when trying to surf the web, states "network problem". I am unable to surf the web. This has happened to atleast 30-40 wi-fi networks. Any suggestions ?

Cheers,

Greg

I experienced that same issue. Eventually, I realized that the 770 is very good at picking up "ad hoc" wireless networks that appear just to be laptop or desktop Wi-Fi cards that are broadcasting an SSID. While most folks don't do it, I guess it's possible to network two or more computers in a simple network using Wi-Fi cards alone. So, if you can't connect, and it says "ad hoc" network in connection manager, you're probably connecting to someone's Wi-Fi card instead of access point.

BTW, I have had no trouble connecting to access points at Panera Bread, Starbucks, America West's frequent flyer club at Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix. Also no problem with my Apple 802.11g Airport at home. However, I was never able to connect to the Hyatt Regency wireless network in Phoenix. Worked fine with my Powerbook, but no luck on the 770. Would see the access point. I would try to connect and immediately get bounced. Any thoughts?

bradb
2005-12-09, 21:32
How do I know? In device, "About product" reports:
"Version: 2.2005.45-7"
I think this is the latest version, but I could be mistaken.

Actually it's 2.2005.45-8 from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770.php

That's the version I'm running but I'm seeing disconnects from my unsecure Apple Airport Extreme on a frequent basis (I've been ssh'ing into my 770). This despite setting the timeout on the WLAN tonnection to "unlimited".

myet01
2005-12-09, 21:46
I also have 2.2005.45-7. What is the difference between 2.2005.45-7 and 2.2005.45-8?

Samuel
2005-12-09, 22:04
That's the version I'm running but I'm seeing disconnects from my unsecure Apple Airport Extreme on a frequent basis (I've been ssh'ing into my 770)
From the 770 shell, could you tell us what dmesg says right after being disconnected ? would be quite helpful.

bradb
2005-12-10, 02:24
From the 770 shell, could you tell us what dmesg says right after being disconnected ? would be quite helpful.

Doh! ok, just to clarify: my network problem seems to only occur when I'm using ssh from my TabletPC. After the connection drops I can go back to the 770 and re-connect the WLAN connection.

The ssh session seems to still be alive if I do it fast enough.

Of course, as I write this I spent the past 15 minutes connected and the problem didn't surface <sigh> Oh well, I'll check as soon as it drops again.

(hmm... I was using 'hcitool' too, maybe that's it?)

drazvan
2005-12-10, 03:29
I am seeing the same issues when connecting to my Linksys WRT54GS router. Connection gets dropped fairly often (true, it happens more often when I'm connected to the 770 using SSH). The Linksys is on channel 7 and I have two other access points in the house, one on channel 1 (an Airport Express from Apple) and another one on channel 11 (an ASUS WL-500gx). The connection to the Apple Airport Express seems to be solid most of the time, no dropouts or anything. But when connecting to the Linksys it disconnects very very often, sometimes it takes 3-4 retries to connect. I have tried both WEP and WPA-PSK, didn't seem to make a difference.

I'm pretty sure it's not a range issue, the 770 is literally within centimeters from the wireless router (all 3 routers sit under my desk and the 770 is on the desk).

Also, I'm pretty sure the Linksys is not faulty, I have a Pocket PC (an iPaq 4150) connecting to it even from outside the house with no problems (never dropped a connection) and also a wireless SIP phone (Zyxel P2000W) that connects without a hitch and never disconnects.

Any ideas?

Razvan

Maerra
2005-12-10, 07:52
I have WRT54G too and had same symptoms too but no more. Done following:
- found that 770's WLAN has no droppings if 770 is nearer than 2 meters from WRT54G. (Unfortunately I don't remember all the Mode settings I tried.)
- updated WRT54G's firmware but no improvements
- updated 770's Nokia software: WLAN frequent droppings disappeared
- but there is still limitation: droppings appear if I use "G-only" setting to WRT54G Network Mode and disappear if I use "Mixed" setting. This means that 770 uses B-mode instead of G-mode which thus seems to be too fast for 770. But no worry, B-mode is 11 Mbps (G: 54 Mbps) and good broadband is e.g. 1 Mbps, so the bottle neck of bitrate from Internet is the broadband.

Jerome
2005-12-10, 09:15
Yes, I can. This is what the last disconnect added:



[63016.730163] tlv320aic23 powering down
[63018.387603] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63018.403930] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63020.235229] We haven't received an SPI packet for 1 second...
[63020.251129] Couldn't get the READY bit
[63021.251556] We haven't received an SPI packet for 1 second...
[63021.267456] Couldn't get the READY bit
[63021.477172] BSS timeout
[63021.477569] DEAUTHENTICATE trap
[63021.497497] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.513519] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.533386] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.549407] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.569244] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.585296] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.605133] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.621154] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.641021] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.657012] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.676849] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.692932] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.712768] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.728820] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63021.748657] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63021.764678] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63022.266723] We haven't received an SPI packet for 1 second...
[63022.282623] Couldn't get the READY bit
[63022.302490] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63022.318481] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63022.786437] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63022.802703] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63022.822601] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63022.838623] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63022.858428] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63022.874511] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63023.283050] We haven't received an SPI packet for 1 second...
[63023.298950] Couldn't get the READY bit
[63023.319091] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63023.335083] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63023.354919] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63023.370941] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63023.390747] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63023.406768] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63023.912902] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63023.928985] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63024.298461] We haven't received an SPI packet for 1 second...
[63024.314361] Couldn't get the READY bit
[63024.427581] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63024.443847] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63024.463684] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63024.479736] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63024.499542] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63024.515625] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63024.942810] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63024.958831] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63024.978698] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63024.994720] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63025.014526] We haven't got a READY interrupt from WAKEUP
[63025.030548] We haven't got a READY interrupt from DMA READY
[63025.314056] SPI timer timeout, getting out of here
[63025.315948] Shut down SoftMAC
[63025.759216] SoftMAC not initialized, chip not booted (Set oid 0x12000001)
[63025.759338] SoftMAC not initialized, chip not booted (Set oid 0x12000002)
[63025.759429] SoftMAC not initialized, chip not booted (Set oid 0x150007e0)
[63026.194152] tlv320aic23 powering up
[63026.203918] tlv320aic23_init_power() done
/ $

Jerome
2005-12-10, 09:40
OK, I am back on the powerbook, I use the 770 to post the messages above. Now, the 770 disconnects almost after every web page. This is unusable. It does not disconnect if internet radio is active, but I understand that the messages above indicate a problem with power saving, and this may explain that...

I tried rebooting, no effect

I tried rebooting without my mmc card, no effect.

Samuel
2005-12-10, 14:12
Any ideas?

Please let us know which firmware you are using.

Jerome
2005-12-10, 16:50
I flashed the latest firmware. (-8)
It does not markedly improve things. I disconnect and still see similar messages with dmesg.


Note that flashing the firmware erases installed applications and that those are not backed up on the MMC. So I had to re-install terminal. Although, maybe this is only a problem with the flashing utility for apple.

BTW, thanks to Andrew Flegg for the Cocoa flashing utility (if he evers reads this message).

Jerome
2005-12-10, 17:19
Apparently, this is an old bug, look here:
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192

It doesn't make me any happier, though.

I would like to add that I noticed this problem at home (WPA-PSK, hidden wlan name, g mode only) and in the internet cafe next door (no encryption, broadcast wlan name, b mode).

Samuel
2005-12-10, 19:03
Apparently, this is an old bug, look here:
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192

No, this is _not_ the same bug. Your problem is different and looks more like:
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329

Samuel
2005-12-10, 19:25
(hmm... I was using 'hcitool' too, maybe that's it?)
like "hcitool scan" for example ?

Jerome
2005-12-10, 19:38
OK. So it is not the same problem. Thank you to re-close bug number 192. Now: what do I do?

bradb
2005-12-11, 08:33
like "hcitool scan" for example ?

Yup. I noticed tonight playing with gpsdrive (downloadingg maps) that the WLAN connection kept dropping and eventually the 770 locked up tight (is there a hard reset? I had to remove the battery).

Jerome
2005-12-11, 16:12
Continuing to try to fix things here.

My 770 has gotten more and more unstable, to the point it could not keep the connection long enough to load more than a page...

I tried to reset the 770's settings, using "control panel" and re-entered my wpa key manually. This has markedly improved things at first. I was able to keep connected for 10-20 minutes. I still got intermittent connection drops, though.

Then I restored my network settings from the MMC. The connection is still relatively stable, although the browser crashes on some pages.

A few notes in the case this problem is somewhat caused by corrupted settings:
-when I first set the 770 up, everything went fine, as far as I can recall.
-my wpa key is quite long (35 characters)
-when I first got my 770, I have added and removed 5 to 10 networks to the connectivity panel (I wanted to try things).

As a next step, I will restart the machine from scratch and re-enter all data manually. I hope it will make the machine usable again.

umts4ever
2005-12-22, 09:19
Hi

Just wondering if people still having problems with wifi stability :rolleyes:

I just got my 770 a few days ago, when I am using the browser I get disconnected reguraly, and have to reconnect :mad:

But when using audio streaming the connection is stable. :confused:

So I can start listning to internet radio, and then using the browser with no problems.

Are others having same problems ??

Running SW: 2.2005.45-7

StevenS
2005-12-22, 12:18
My 770 loses connection 1-2 times per hour. I have to disconnect and to connect in order to have wireless connectivity again. Maybe it has to do with the idle time settings of the WLAN configuration.

Netgear WG102GR, 802.11b/g, WAP PSK
FW: 2.2005.45-7

jaycee
2005-12-22, 12:29
My 770 loses connection 1-2 times per hour. I have to disconnect and to connect in order to have wireless connectivity again. Maybe it has to do with the idle time settings of the WLAN configuration.

Netgear WG102GR, 802.11b/g, WPA PSK
FW: 2.2005.45-7
I'm on firmware -8 and I see this with WPA-PSK, too.
I dropped down to WEP-128 and it seemed to decrease the connection negotiation time and also increase the time it'd stay connected.

I'm staying with WEP128 for a while.

Jaycee

Maerra
2005-12-22, 13:40
First my 770 dropped frequently the WLAN connection. Made all updates: Linksys router's firmware and the 770's software. But no visible improvement.
Found, when using "G-only"-protocol setting , the 770 must be nearer than 2 m from the router to achieve a stable connection. When changed the protocol to "mixed" mode setting in the router, the droppings disappeared!
Conclusion: G-protocol is too fast or insensitive for the 770, B-protocol works fine.
Has anybody met similar experiences? I haven't seen any discussion about B/G-protocols with the 770.

MACDADDY
2005-12-22, 14:04
I have Apple Airport Extreme as WIFI router in central location of house & have no problem. I can even "see" 2 of my neighbors' WIFI routers as well but they are locked systems & I cannot try to access them.. So yesterday I decided to test the reception. I have T-Mobie Hotspots account & can access internet from any Starbucks. I drove to one of the Starbucks in my neighborhood. l sat in the car on the far side of the parking lot & still got excellent reception. I surfed to various websites with.no problem

myet01
2005-12-22, 15:05
I use a D-Link (128 bit WEP) and it works great! I can also see four of my neighbors wireless routers (not secured) as well.

Tony

Jerome
2005-12-22, 17:34
My router is set up to G only and the connection drops all the time. But in an internet cafe with B protocol, the connection dropped as well.

Now, what I have not (yet) tried is to reset the machine and go to the internet cafe. It seems that once you get the problem, the problem only gets worse, so maybe I got the problem with B protocol only because I had had it with G protocol first...

sabes
2006-02-12, 15:57
I experienced that same issue. Eventually, I realized that the 770 is very good at picking up "ad hoc" wireless networks that appear just to be laptop or desktop Wi-Fi cards that are broadcasting an SSID. While most folks don't do it, I guess it's possible to network two or more computers in a simple network using Wi-Fi cards alone. So, if you can't connect, and it says "ad hoc" network in connection manager, you're probably connecting to someone's Wi-Fi card instead of access point.

BTW, I have had no trouble connecting to access points at Panera Bread, Starbucks, America West's frequent flyer club at Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix. Also no problem with my Apple 802.11g Airport at home. However, I was never able to connect to the Hyatt Regency wireless network in Phoenix. Worked fine with my Powerbook, but no luck on the 770. Would see the access point. I would try to connect and immediately get bounced. Any thoughts?

just picked up my 770 and trying to connect through my airport extreme at home (to a mac mini) - the folks at nokia are (i think erroneously) telling me that the 770 doesn't work with the airport extreme wifi but it seems to me that it's really a firewall issue. thoughts folks?

cnewmark
2006-02-12, 17:56
1. my 700 had been connecting to different wifi systems really well, then, suddenly, can't connect to anything.

2. somehow, it decided to turn off all connectivity.

I can't find a means of either resetting the device or enabling connectivity again. Perhaps I've just gone deeply into pudding for brains mode.

Any ideas? please let me know here, or at craig@craigslist.org

thansk!

clu1234
2006-03-13, 02:00
I was frustrated by the continuous disconnect issue, too, but finally figured it out. :D Here's what you have to do:

Go into Connection Manager.
- click on Tools - Connectivity Settings
- choose your network as default, and check the Use Without Asking box. Also set the WLAN idle time to Unlimited.

With these settings, you'll still get disconnected from time to time, but it should be transparent to you as the connection will be restablished in the background. Hope this helps.

clu1234
2006-03-13, 02:04
What I couldn't get the 770 to work, though, is when in Ad Hoc mode. When I connect to my notebook as Ad Hoc, the connection is established, data is exchanged (I see Send and Receive bytes), but the 770 would tell me Network Error when it tries to launch the browser, reader, or Internet radio... Any idea?

benny1967
2006-04-05, 08:04
Reading of all the connectivity problems, I wonder if the thing I have is maybe not related to my router (as I thought it was) but to the Nokia 770 instead:

I have no problem connecting for the first time, and the connection does not drop while I'm online. I never had this. Not once.

But:
When I disconnect/turn off the unit and re-connect later, I never get past this blinking "W" at the top. It blinks forever, I usually make it go "offline" again manually (although sometimes, I cant even do this. It just ignores my click and blinks on.)

Solution: Either switch off the router and switch it on again or set the router to "WLAN>disabled" and then to "WLAN>enabled". The next connection will work. Usually. :)

Because of the workaround involving manipulation on the router, I thought the router caused the problem. Now I'm no longer sure. Can it be that the very problem you're describing here has some side effect that causes an WLAN-connection not to be closed properly, thus leaving the router in some undefined state that prevents it from re-connecting?

And: Does anyone else have a problem reconnecting?

neiljerram
2006-04-05, 09:31
What I couldn't get the 770 to work, though, is when in Ad Hoc mode. When I connect to my notebook as Ad Hoc, the connection is established, data is exchanged (I see Send and Receive bytes), but the 770 would tell me Network Error when it tries to launch the browser, reader, or Internet radio... Any idea?

This sounds like a routing problem. Probably the problem is that your router (in other words whatever your notebook is going through to get to the Internet) doesn't have a route back to your 770 via the notebook.

Does that help, or do you need more explanation?

- Neil

jaycee
2006-04-05, 12:54
And: Does anyone else have a problem reconnecting?
Yes. When I ran my A/P in 802.11g mode with WPA, after I disconnected the 770 from the WLAN (either intentional or accidental) I would /never/ be able to reconnect immediately. It would always take a "Connect"/"Disconnect"/"Connect" cycle to get connectivity back again.

When I dropped the WLAN down to 802.11g/WEP128, this problem disappeared and a reconnect would always work (much more quickly, as well).

It's almost as though some part of the WPA system on the 770 doesn't shutdown properly the first time it disconnects, requiring a disconnect/connect cycle in order for it to get back into a state where it can work again.

I verified this, time and again, with the 770 literally inches from the AP (Belkin AP/RE box with DHCP passthough to the local IpCop server). As mentioned above, the problems totally went away when I reverted to WEP128.

Cheers,
Jonathan

disq
2006-04-05, 13:40
i also had some reboot-on-packetbursts(especially downloads) problems with WPA that i didn't experience with WEP128 (i have 2 access points at home, one wpa and one wep)

i reported it to the bugzilla (search for WPA) but then a few days later i couldn't reproduce it any more.

also, with WPA the connection need a session of some sort, to authenticate (usign the passphrase) and get the current encryption key (which changes every hour or so, depending on the AP configuration) to encrypt the packets against. then the whole stream is encrypted.
with WEP, you supply that encryption key as 104 bits (=13 ascii or 26 hex chars) and that key is used to encrypt the packet data only. so i think it's quite normal for WEP to be faster. (but wep's not safe)

benny1967
2006-04-05, 14:36
It would always take a "Connect"/"Disconnect"/"Connect" cycle to get connectivity back again.

When I dropped the WLAN down to 802.11g/WEP128, this problem disappeared and a reconnect would always work (much more quickly, as well).


Mhm... this rings a bell. In the first 2-3 days, I had my router (11b, not 11g) set up with WEP128 until I found out that somebody had played with my firewall settings; this made me switch to WPA. But: I can't remember any connectivity problems in those early "WEP-days", even though I played around with my Nokia 770 more often than I do now. I'll try to confirm that this is a WPA-only problem here when I'm back home.

EDIT: I'm home now an yes, it is a WPA-PSK-only problem. WEP works without any troubles. Thank you, jaycee, for clarifying this detail. It doesn't really help, though, because I'd like to keep WPA on the router. :(

BTW: "Connect"/"Disconnect"/"Connect" on my 770 does not solve the problem here. That's what I did all the time before I found out I had to reset my router, not the 770.

jlim51
2006-04-11, 12:47
Works all over the house with my Netgear DG834G and my neighbours unsecure Belkin ;)

Kevin

seems like this belkin is everywhere

they shud put a giant one in the sky for all of us to use :p

jlim51
2006-04-11, 12:49
What I couldn't get the 770 to work, though, is when in Ad Hoc mode. When I connect to my notebook as Ad Hoc, the connection is established, data is exchanged (I see Send and Receive bytes), but the 770 would tell me Network Error when it tries to launch the browser, reader, or Internet radio... Any idea?

try changing to Infrasture instead of Ad Hoc

DaScud
2006-04-11, 15:05
What I couldn't get the 770 to work, though, is when in Ad Hoc mode. When I connect to my notebook as Ad Hoc, the connection is established, data is exchanged (I see Send and Receive bytes), but the 770 would tell me Network Error when it tries to launch the browser, reader, or Internet radio... Any idea?


Clu1234,

The problem most likely is that although you are associated, you need to enable NAT functionality on your laptop so that the N770 gets an IP address and the laptop is setup to forward packets for the N770.

I am assuming that you have multiple interfaces on your notebook and that you are connected to the internet through your first (ethernet interface). First make sure you can surf from your notebook using the wired interface.

Put your second interface (wireless) in ad hoc mode and preferably assign it a wep key. Assuming that you are running some flavor of Windoze XP, go to network connections and click the
"set up a home and small office network" and go thru the wizard. You want to choose the first option that says, this computer connects directly to the internet and other computers connect thru this computer".
At the next screen choose the interface on your notebook (wired interface) as the interface that is connected to internet. Go through the wizard and you should be able to associate from the N770 in ad hoc mode and browse the web. Essentially you are enabling NAT functionality using your laptop.

Of course with this setting you wont be able to access regular infrastructure wireless networks from your laptop. The winxp Internet Connection SHaring (ICS) wizard assigns a 192.168 addresss to your wireless interface. Once you are done with using your laptop for forwarding data just right click on the network adapter and under tcp/ip properties check the box for dynamic address and it should work fine.

If you are using *nix flavor, just look up the howtos for IP Masquerading.

HTH

DaScud