Live Wallpaper discussion thread

[martie1]

Description:
Live wallpaper is the desktop widget, developed by Tatiana Makova and Vladislav Vasiliev that provides animated homescreen backgrounds functionality for Nokia n900.

Video demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp30hGusgOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CWd1q8RLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yUFankdUTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2VIUusJMh8

Latest release in extras-testing:
live wallpaper 0.85 (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.8.5/)

Please test and report bugs here. Thank you.


Original post by martie1
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hi all,

i was inspired by this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1YBcYw_qE

is it possible to get live wallpapers on the n900 like the google nexus one phone?

thnx,
martijn (holland)

[qole]

No, and I filed a bug about it (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3910) a long time ago.

[konttori]

Umm... We are working on it ;) (the support for live wallpapers)

[konttori]

It's going to allow any window (even xv) to be either in front (with transparency) or in the background of the home screen. you will also receive clicks. So, you can develop now and when we release the support, you can convert your window to be a live wallpaper pretty quickly. Happy hacking!

[DaSilva]

There is already a "live-wallpaper" application in extras-devel but I haven't tested it yet.
Is that yours?

[nokian-series]

Can install that beacuse of libhildon version..

[MohammadAG]

Got it installed, it has a sample live wallpaper, but it doesn't seem to be working properly (might be because of the changes in PR1.2).
If anyone wants to try it out here you go.
http://mohammadag.ucoz.com/maemo/live-wallpaper_0.1_armel.deb
If it says something about dependencies apt-get -f install.

Not responsible for any damage that happens :)

[lcuk]

MohammadAG
what does it do for you?
dare I suggest it "works for me"..

[MohammadAG]

MohammadAG
what does it do for you?
dare I suggest it "works for me"..

It adds a live wallpaper as a background, it has a city + moving train sample.
It doesn't work properly on PR1.1.1 since it requires PR1.2, but when the background gets blurred the static background is shown (so it won't appear in the menu or when the status bar is opened).
Try it, it shouldn't hard the device, much :P (jk)

[lcuk]

mo,
mine installed from extras-devel ;)

[stigslim]

may i ask what is meant by live wallpaper?, does this mean like a video?.I only ask because i once saw an app running on an android handset that refreshed the desktop from a webcam.Pretty cool i thought considering all the free to watch webcams on the go.

[lcuk]

technically it can be anything :)
its just another method of using the background area of the desktop
developers can use it for live whole desktop effects or just for changing a picture every now and then.

[stigslim]

cheers, would love the webcam idea how would i request it and who from?.Thats if request can be made lol.

[qole]

Oh I just noticed! konttori closed my bug as "Fixed" now! I'm dying to see how this works.

[Mr. Incredible]

Cool, can you make more moving wallpapers? Like the moving galaxy on the Nexus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKchi0eMqeI

[MohammadAG]

Oh I just noticed! konttori closed my bug as "Fixed" now! I'm dying to see how this works.

Download the package and install it :)

[lcuk]

mr. incredible.
whilst not a live wallpaper, it certainly is living
download liqflow.

perhaps we can make use of the dynamics and possibly even direct rendering.

[danramos]

Hasn't xfree86/freedesktop.org always been able to run apps in the 'root' of the desktop (that is, where your desktop image normally shows up). Desktop wallpaper in X was always a matter of simply loading a graphical viewer as root to show a desktop image. Just not understanding why, if the N900 is now running xorg, that this seems challenging instead of trivial.

[vasvlad]

Hi
New version of livewallpaper (0.2) is available here:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/admin/qrs.php?group_id=1471
and in extras-devel

Changelog:
* Added two planes in theme "Berlin"
* Added clouds in both themes, they moving according to a wind direction
* Appearance of object, wind direction are defined randomly
* At night in windows lights up and light dies away in theme "Modern"
* Fixed memory leaks
* Fixed view buttons in edit mode on hildon desktop
* Added Rich animation parameters

Vlad.

[aiyaznz]

Can someone make a youtube vid please. Very curious as to what it looks like.

[vasvlad]

Can someone make a youtube vid please. Very curious as to what it looks like.

Hmm. Probably in weekend I will make it.

Vlad.

[joshv06]

I am also curious for a youtube video as well. Or at least a screencast if it works.

[vasvlad]

I just uploaded to garage and extras-devel new version (0.3)

Changelog:
* Fixed problem with tram
* Added dark clouds in the night
* Added semaphore and windows in Berlin
* Added new pictures in Berlin
* Fixed problem with plane
* Changed in timer's algorithm

You can find the deb package and screenshots here:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471

Vlad.

[Fredook]

can not be installed, it tells me missing applications libhildon1 >2.2.10

[andrewfblack]

Can you explain how you did the live wallpapers? Is it really animating the wall papers or is this something that site above wallpaper/replaces it like a widget?

[MohammadAG]

Can you explain how you did the live wallpapers? Is it really animating the wall papers or is this something that site above wallpaper/replaces it like a widget?

It is a widget :)

[MINKIN2]

Hi guys,

This is my second post on the board and I came over to share a little tool that I have stumbled upon that I thought might be cool if it could be implimented on maemo some how. Anyways this thread seems more appropiate for it I guess?

It is appears to be a simple HTML/Java tool for animated backgrounds and banners for panaramic images with little interaction features.

http://www.spritely.net/documentation/

My first thaought was an Aquirium desktop of sorts. Seems pretty cool. IMO

[vasvlad]

can not be installed, it tells me missing applications libhildon1 >2.2.10

Please install from this link
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471&release_id=3489

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

I just uploaded video with demo of LiveWallpaper to youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp30hGusgOg

Vlad.

[DaSilva]

Does it work on all four screens?
Does it stop when the device is locked (black screen) to save energy?
Is it possible to have a smoother animation?

[Dr.Marcial]

I just saw this video of a animated wallpaper running on the N900, I just wanted to share my excitement, It is probably bad for the battery and performance but at least you can show off to your android 2.1 friends with animated backgrounds!

I still dont know if its loopalbe, gonna try it now

Just imagine a matrix one with actual falling glyphs! :)

http://dailymobile.se/2010/04/15/video-nokia-n900-live-wallpaper/

cheers!

PS. not taking credit for making, publishing or discovering it!

[niqbal]

PS. not taking credit for making, publishing or discovering it!

dude great find, atleast take credit for discovering it :)

[madmaze]

definitely sounds rather battery life killing lol

cool though.. id like a matrix one.. hehe =)

[Dr.Marcial]

ok I tried it, it runs ok, wanst that hard on my cpu

It is actually a big widget that covers the entire screen

will test a bit more

[se23]

nice, i agree the matrix would look great. i was waiting for somthing like this

[CepiPerez]

it's in extras-testing and there's already a thread about it

[vasvlad]

Does it work on all four screens?

It works on one screen ( in current version). Do you need animation in all screens?
[QUOTE=DaSilva;612207]
Does it stop when the device is locked (black screen) to save energy?

Yes, of course.

Is it possible to have a smoother animation?
Maybe.


Vlad.

[Delta]

it's in extras testing?
that was fast, I'm excited too but I never thought it would be ready for end users so soon.

thats a big step for maemo, at least in my eyes

[nath]

Thanks for the nice wallpaper.

Not much happening on the Berlin theme, is it? Some clouds moving and the traffic light switching. Anything I miss?

[tissot]

Just imagine a matrix one with actual falling glyphs! :)

Really nice idea actually. Wouldn't mind to see that on my N900.

[shrubbery]

Thanks for the nice wallpaper.

Not much happening on the Berlin theme, is it? Some clouds moving and the traffic light switching. Anything I miss?

If you hang arounf for a while then the train also comes across and looking at the youtube video, daylight also changes to night.

[nath]

If you hang arounf for a while then the train also comes across and looking at the youtube video, daylight also changes to night.

That's the other theme...

[wazd]

Join the discussion here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=45728

[DaSilva]

Does it use a lot of CPU power?

[lcuk]

Lyle Lanley: Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine,
Bona fide,
Electrified,
Six-car
Monorail!
What'd I say?

[vasvlad]

Thanks for the nice wallpaper.

Not much happening on the Berlin theme, is it? Some clouds moving and the traffic light switching. Anything I miss?

Did you see airplanes?

Vlad.

[nath]

Did you see airplanes?

Vlad.

Oh, wow. Just right now my first plane. :) The sun is also moving. :)

One small bug: Sometimes, the traffic light is only a big black rectangle.

[vasvlad]

Does it use a lot of CPU power?

If many objects are moving on screen hildon-home use less 40% CPU
One object use about 3-6% of CPU power.

Vlad.

[amorek13]

hey vlad great job keep up the good work
samsung 900 i believe its called has a live theme that depended on a location for example, for Usa it had a statue of liberty it was bright in a day and all light up in the evening, great job vlad

[vasvlad]

Oh, wow. Just right now my first plane. :) The sun is also moving. :)

One small bug: Sometimes, the traffic light is only a big black rectangle.

Yes. We are going to fix it.

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

hey vlad great job keep up the good work
samsung 900 i believe its called has a live theme that depended on a location for example, for Usa it had a statue of liberty it was bright in a day and all light up in the evening, great job vlad

Thanks. We are going to use Liblocation for our widget.

Vlad,

[HtheB]

Vlad,
Will there be a Matrix live wallpaper? :D

Would love to see the falling "codes" as a wallpaper

[lcuk]

vlad,
and when no objects are moving cpu drops to negligible, just like any other desktop element

[lcuk]

htheb
there is anything you can imagine
have a go, the methods and code will be polished and limits etc will be found.
vlad is doing impressive things and his street scenes can only get better!

this live background stuff open up whole new interaction point on the device :)


vlad - personal request - cityscape weather could follow expected real weather, you have all the omweather codebase available ;)

[vasvlad]

vlad,
and when no objects are moving cpu drops to negligible, just like any other desktop element

Yes, of course.

[vasvlad]

Vlad,
Will there be a Matrix live wallpaper? :D

Would love to see the falling "codes" as a wallpaper

I have talked with Wazd (http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=9921) about it. He is a real rock designer. He has told to me how I can make it.

I think we will create this theme.

Vlad.

[leetut]

after removing this my blured background is gone, when zooming out of apps, anyway to get that back?

[vasvlad]

....
vlad - personal request - cityscape weather could follow expected real weather, you have all the omweather codebase available ;)


Yes!!!! This is the first idea which I had about LiveWallpaper. I need about three days of free time for release it.

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

after removing this my blured background is gone, when zooming out of apps, anyway to get that back?

This is very interesting. Can you create screenshots.

Vlad.

[F2thaK]

cool, but we need BGs that we can put shortcuts etc on

[leetut]

i seem to remember this morning installing 3 deb files, but only had 2 styles of background, and only had 1 thing i could uninstall in app manager?
tried replacing my transitions.ini file and changing the theme but the problem remains, *** you can see from the pics its almost impossible to see the menu text now, and im sure this started when i installed the debs, did that by opening the debs with app manager, and they self installed
screens:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7892/screenshot00w.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/screenshot00w.png/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3965/screenshot01a.png (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/screenshot01a.png/)

[lcuk]

cool, but we need BGs that we can put shortcuts etc on

heh normal desktop widgets live ontop of the background ;)

[leetut]

part of me actually likes this, but it would be great if i could get it back the way it was before installing these debs, was sure the blur was controlled by transitions.ini but replacing it with a backup from a few weeks ago didnt work

[F2thaK]

heh normal desktop widgets live ontop of the background ;)

thats what I mean..

well i mean i fill my BG with widgets shortcuts etc, i wouldnt be able to see this, and i wouldnt use either of those themes btw sorry, just MHO

[lcuk]

i have some ideas about how to use it
we shall see

[vasvlad]

Hmmm.

I think that it not a problem of LiveWallpaper.


Vlad.

[leetut]

also noticing after installing:
live_wallpaper_0.1_armel.deb @4.60MB
live_wallpaper_0.2_armel.deb @3.72MB
live_wallpaper_0.3_armel.deb @3.71MB

i only have the option of uninstalling
1 file in app manager: livewallpaper @4.6MB

wondering where the other 7.43MB is and why i cant uninstall it
maybe if i can find the location i can manually delete it

cant really be anything but live wallpaper causing the problem because i havent installed anything new for weeks, and the problem only started after installing those debs

[lcuk]

installing a later version removes some of the earlier ones

[vasvlad]

Under root
dpkg -r live-wallpaper
reboot your device.

But I think yet that problem isn't in LiveWallper.
Live Wallper is a widget on Desktop, It doesn't edit system files.

Vlad.


Vlad.

[leetut]

ok bro, you know more about it than me so you probs right, but that command can remove anything cos ive already uninstalled it, and it still didnt remove the extra 7MB from deb 2 and 3, ill just reflash later tonight

[MohammadAG]

part of me actually likes this, but it would be great if i could get it back the way it was before installing these debs, was sure the blur was controlled by transitions.ini but replacing it with a backup from a few weeks ago didnt work

The blur is controlled by transitions.ini.
Check that you replaced it as root.

[leetut]

yeah i did it with winscp so no need for root, also adjusted blur in transition control app to 100%, still no blur on task switcher or menu

[lcuk]

leetut,
you know using winscp to change system components causes complications and you ARE logging in as root to do it.
since nobody else has had problems and you are the only person mucking with transitions and have transitions issues i would hazard that those or something along those lines are the cause more than anything.

[leetut]

problem solved:confused:

[lcuk]

ok
file a bug about it :)

[james174]

just an idea, would it be possible to have some realtime transitions? For example, a sunrise and sunset that changes through different stages when the clock hits key points such as 6am, 12pm and 6pm for dawn, midday and dusk?

[MINKIN2]

Those planes look sweet!

I was wondering how difficult it would be to intergrate the accelerometre into these live wall papers? May be have the old "Beer" app as a background or a marbles/balloon theme for a Real-time interactive wallpaper?

[MohammadAG]

Those planes look sweet!

I was wondering how difficult it would be to intergrate the accelerometre into these live wall papers? May be have the old "Beer" app as a background or a marbles/balloon theme for a Real-time interactive wallpaper?

That would waste a lot of battery imo

[nosa101]

How about having that liqflow (??) thing as a background?

[lcuk]

problem solved:confused:

what was it?

[lcuk]

How about having that liqflow (??) thing as a background?

:) perhaps - its whether we can make the XV yuv window show cleanly and how to handle everything.
consider it a WIP

[Jack6428]

I wish there was one with water and ripples like on Android.. :D
Or if you could use your own videofiles as background...

[wazd]

http://s43.radikal.ru/i099/1004/0f/05f8db2b5365.png
Comming soon to the n900 near you.

[Jack6428]

What if Morpheus finds out?

[Delta]

What if Morpheus finds out?

he would pull the plug from your brain's *ss

[chy830308815]

Hello, I am a Chinese N900 users, this software can run as dynamic as the nexus one wallpaper? ? Thank you

[geneven]

thats what I mean..

well i mean i fill my BG with widgets shortcuts etc, i wouldnt be able to see this, and i wouldnt use either of those themes btw sorry, just MHO

This is why I suggested in Brainstorm a few months ago that someone write a program that toggles off or on all icons at once on the desktops so we can gaze at our beautiful backgrounds.

Remember that we can theoretically have up to nine desktops. I'd like to watch that train running thru all of them!

[lcuk]

i'd like to have a liveBG on one desktop showing a view of the dashboard :)
of course i would leave the widgets off that desktop

[wazd]

Some rough action demo for The Matrix Live Wallpaper. You can start praying now :)
http://lotro.ucoz.ru/matrix.html

[stigslim]

that looks awesome

[zaedej]

Looks sick man!! When are getting to download it? :p

[vasvlad]

Looks sick man!! When are getting to download it? :p
Coming soon. It's almost done. Problem with showing buttons of applet 'close' and 'settings' above Matrix.

Vlad.

[msa]

this looks fantastic!

what about cpu-load? does it generate a lot of system load (hence affecting battery life)?

and how is it done? is it displaying a flash-applet in background or just rapidly changing pictures?

is it possible that it will at some time display random letters instead of showing the same letters in every column?

[Darkwolf]

Switching tasks is now very slow as it brings the live wallpaper back into focus.
As soon as I installed it the theme was applied and there were no extra menu options to change the theme let alone turn it off.
I had to deinstall it and then it stopped.
A nice idea, but after 2 days I've seen enough of it. It's just a little bit too heavy on the performance and kills overal UI responsiveness.

[Bratag]

Switching tasks is now very slow as it brings the live wallpaper back into focus.
As soon as I installed it the theme was applied and there were no extra menu options to change the theme let alone turn it off.
I had to deinstall it and then it stopped.
A nice idea, but after 2 days I've seen enough of it. It's just a little bit too heavy on the performance and kills overal UI responsiveness.

Didnt see that myself - the app can be configured just like any other widget. Bottom right hand corner there is a little settings icon.

[zaedej]

When are we getting the Matrix one? :D

[lcuk]

When are we getting the Matrix one? :D

when you realise there is no spoon.

[msa]

Didnt see that myself - the app can be configured just like any other widget. Bottom right hand corner there is a little settings icon.

so technically its a widget and not a theme?

[vasvlad]

so technically its a widget and not a theme?

It's a widget.

Vlad

[andrewfblack]

merged another thread about live wallpaper widget into this one.

[dof250]

Looks really nice! what id LOVE to see is WEATHER. Like the HTC sense for winmo. See the real time weather on you're screen would be GREAT!

Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlTOI7ZUziQ

[vasvlad]

Hi.
We have uploaded the new version (0.4) of LiveWallpaper into extras- devel repository and into garage
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471

Changelog:
* Added theme Matrix
* Fixed problem with traffic light
* Added moon moving
* Added possibility to configure Live Wallpaper using Control Panel
* Added Finland translation

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

Vasvlad my boy....
You have done a great job....

matrix looks smashing....

1. Will this a battery eater or not?
2. And how to set it off?
3. Icon in menu won't work (only in settings)
4. without rich animation the Matrix won't work

Tip:

The screen animation after the screenlock will become active.

[nath]

Thanks for the new version.

Without rich animation, after each screenlock the Matrix will have moved one step forwards. Only with rich animation it works as expected, but I guess that uses more power?

[vasvlad]

Vasvlad my boy....
You have done a great job....

matrix looks smashing....

1. Will this a battery eater or not?
2. And how to set it off?
3. Icon in menu won't work (only in settings)
4. without rich animation the Matrix won't work

Tip:

The screen animation after the screenlock will become active.

1. LiveWallpaper eats a battery only in active mode.
2. Click into right corner of display in Desktop Edit Mode
3. I'm sorry. I forgot to remove this icon from the package. I will fix it today.
4. Yes. This is right behavior

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

Thanks for the new version.

Without rich animation, after each screenlock the Matrix will have moved one step forwards. Only with rich animation it works as expected, but I guess that uses more power?

We will redesign the behavior in Matrix theme when "rich animation" is off. Matrix will not move.

It will be done in version 0.4.1 today.

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

New version (0.4.1) has been uploaded to extras-devel.

Changelog:

* Removed unusable menu icon
* Fixed Matrix theme when rich animation mode is off
* Fixed Russian translation

Vlad.

[plaban]

New version (0.4.1) has been uploaded to extras-devel.

Changelog:

* Removed unusable menu icon
* Fixed Matrix theme when rich animation mode is off
* Fixed Russian translation

Vlad.

please upload here https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471

[rolan900d]

New version (0.4.1) has been uploaded to extras-devel.

Changelog:

* Removed unusable menu icon
* Fixed Matrix theme when rich animation mode is off
* Fixed Russian translation

Vlad.

I can't find the new version and application manager also doesn't

[cddiede]

I just installed the .deb directly from:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/7967/live-wallpaper_0.4_armel.deb

It's shows under a "dpkg -l" output to be version 0.4, however when I run it and click on the "About" button it reads as version 0.2 and has none of the 0.4 feature enhancements.

[cddiede]

Ok, I just found the optional theme options under the settings application's Live Wallpaper sub-menu.

So I do see the updated themes and they work, but the app still reports it's version as 0.2 instead of 0.4 and in the widgets settings there are only the two original themes.

[rolan900d]

1. LiveWallpaper eats a battery only in active mode.
2. Click into right corner of display in Desktop Edit Mode
3. I'm sorry. I forgot to remove this icon from the package. I will fix it today.
4. Yes. This is right behavior

Vlad.

Just notices a very tiny small text like place in the right bottom corner.
The left one is to get in the app settings and the right one to close..
After I close it, no way of getting it back and running..
Can't you add an active and non-active tick option in settings?

@cddiede:

The last version installed from the get go for me...
No need for dpkg -i command.
I have 3 themes as an option (Berlin, Modern and Matrix).

[vasvlad]

I just installed the .deb directly from:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/7967/live-wallpaper_0.4_armel.deb

It's shows under a "dpkg -l" output to be version 0.4, however when I run it and click on the "About" button it reads as version 0.2 and has none of the 0.4 feature enhancements.

Please reboot your device.
Vlad.

[vasvlad]

Just notices a very tiny small text like place in the right bottom corner.
The left one is to get in the app settings and the right one to close..
After I close it, no way of getting it back and running..
Can't you add an active and non-active tick option in settings?



You can activate the widget using item of menu "Add widget". We are going to make this option in version 0.5

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

I had very strange problem with Autobuilder. I just uploaded version 0.4.2 into extras-devel and into garage. https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471

Vlad

[rolan900d]

All is working well on my end!

[Reeby]

I had very strange problem with Autobuilder. I just uploaded version 0.4.2 into extras-devel and into garage. https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=1471

Vlad
Guys, do I just go for ".deb" file or...what's that "tar.gz" thing anyway?

[rolan900d]

Just go for the deb!
But you can get it from application manager as well.....
If you have the extras catolgue enabled

remember:

it has no icon but quick start in settings

[danramos]

It is a widget :)

Ahem. They prefer to be called "little apps." Thank you. :)

[cddiede]

I'm really loving this application. But I can't find a Vote link for it on the garage page:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.4.2/

Where can I vote this up? I see some votes down for it where people complain that it shouldn't go into Extras because it runs down your battery.

What a load. It's not a malfunction when a graphically intensive app uses up battery power, I mean what the hell do they expect?

Also, I see down votes due to the voter's personal taste in the default wallpapers. Again, total crap. Personal aesthetics have no bearing on the functionality that htis app offers.

If an app is broken or harmful, then vote it down, but just because it's not an app that you may choose to install on your N900, don't rob other people the chance to try it by voting to keep it out of the Extras repository!!!

[cddiede]

I'm really loving this application. But I can't find a Vote link for it on the garage page:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.4.2/

Where can I vote this up?

Never mind. Just found it:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.4.2/

[MohammadAG]

Just a suggestion, although one that might be hard to implement since it surely has to do with hildon-desktop.
Instead of moving the desktops, why not just move the widgets when the live wallpaper is active?
That way you can always see the wallpaper without putting a lot of load on the device (be it the CPU or the DSP)

[zaedej]

How do I tweak the setting of this widget? I want the Matrix wallpaper. When I tap on the Live Wallpaper Icon, it just crashes. Its only showing one wallpaper.

[tokag]

great work man this is the bee's knees fo' sho'. a suggestion perhaps, and i don't know if it would work out-of-the-box with native support, but have you considered rather than using a widget for this effect, using .apng files instead so that the wall paper IS truly animated?

[mornage]

How do I tweak the setting of this widget? I want the Matrix wallpaper. When I tap on the Live Wallpaper Icon, it just crashes. Its only showing one wallpaper.

You cannot use the icon in "more" however, if you go to settings you will be able to change wallpaper and rich animation.

[hadinin]

tank you for live wallaper .
POSSIBLE use live wallaper for 4 desktop ?:confused:

[mornage]

Only one at the moment. This is just a widget and they only work on one screen.

PR1.2 is supposed to change how wallpapers work so we should be able to get proper live wallpapers on all backgrounds soon.

[vasvlad]

tank you for live wallaper .
POSSIBLE use live wallaper for 4 desktop ?:confused:

We are going to add this feature.

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

We are going to add this feature.

Vlad.

Hurry up then!

ROFL

[thelushlife]

great work Vlad! the current wallpapers work pretty great, speed is decent too! now to wait for more live wallpapers to come out :D

[rolan900d]

Only time between us to get nice naked girls floating around our cell

[lcuk]

rolan900d,
well last time I compiled hotbabe on the device it looked wrong because it was sat ontop as a messy window
it needed translating into a widget and could be used as a live wallpaper :)
http://dindinx.net/hotbabe

(hotbabe undresses based on cpu utilisation - so get running more and more apps!!!)

[Bazza]

Good work vlad,

Apart from uninstalling how do you disable live wallpaper?

[vasvlad]

Good work vlad,

Apart from uninstalling how do you disable live wallpaper?

You can tap in right corner of display in Edit Mode for disable live wallpaper.

Vlad.
P.S. In next release we will add option for enable/disable live wallpaper using configuration.

[Bazza]

Ah ha!!!!!!! bottom right hand corner on the edit screen.

Thanks again. ;)

Also how hard would it be to add random movements or objects to these live wallpapers?

for example

A fishtank with 3 or 4 random fish swimming in it (nothing looped)

or

Lava lamp effect with smooth transition of different colours in the background.

idea

(accelerometer controlled lava) yep i know it will drain the battery.:(

[vasvlad]

Ah ha!!!!!!! bottom right hand corner on the edit screen.

Thanks again. ;)

Also how hard would it be to add random movements or objects to these live wallpapers?

for example

A fishtank with 3 or 4 random fish swimming in it (nothing looped)

or

Lava lamp effect with smooth transition of different colours in the background.

idea

(accelerometer controlled lava) yep i know it will drain the battery.:(

It's super idea!!! Thanks. We need images of fish.

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

@Vlad:

you can get Virtua Girls HD to run on this as well.
It is a program for the PC and gets sexy babes running on your desktop...

There was a program made in Python for the 3rd edition Symbian..

Perhaps also in here...

To keep the size down I think you should make several releases, so we can choose our own lay-out.
Perhaps add an internet gallery option to download some more background animations

[Bazza]

It's super idea!!! Thanks. We need images of fish.

Vlad.

Can these fish be animated?

And if so can the animated fish be a GIF file?

[nosa101]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeZzjUcaXW0&feature=player_embedded

The N8 has some sort of live wallpaper thing going

[Bazza]

With accelerometer or compass based movement...nice.:p

[Nipperoid]

well my ku990 (viewty) had a live animated wallpaper of goldfish where the water rippled when you tapped and the fish would move when tapped.

[Bazza]

well my ku990 (viewty) had a live animated wallpaper of goldfish where the water rippled when you tapped and the fish would move when tapped.

showoff......;)

With you saying had i take it you don't have that phone anymore??

[Nipperoid]

nope, was 2 years ago i switched to a Samsung omnia (worst phone ever) then a 5800 (still got that) and my main phone is a n900. the viewty still works perfectly, i gave it to my friend. he dropped it in a sink of water and the camera doesnt work now.

[Bazza]

Lol,

What is it with mates when you lend them a phone...............

They always bloody lose or break em

eh em..sorry about that. :)

I have lost a NOKIA 6230i also a 6680 to my so called mates also had a joystick broken off on an old N73 i lent out for 2 weeks.

The trouble is i have a drawer full of old phones and when a mate needs a phone on a short term loan
I AM STILL DAFT ENOUGH TO LEND THEM OUT. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hopefully somebody will do me a good turn one day.. ;);)

[shaddam]

Lol,

What is it with mates when you lend them a phone...............

They always bloody lose or break em

eh em..sorry about that. :)

I have lost a NOKIA 6230i also a 6680 to my so called mates also had a joystick broken off on an old N73 i lent out for 2 weeks.

The trouble is i have a drawer full of old phones and when a mate needs a phone on a short term loan
I AM STILL DAFT ENOUGH TO LEND THEM OUT. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hopefully somebody will do me a good turn one day.. ;);)

aye i know that feeling i lost my old n96 to a freind they dropped it apparently and its in two bits ~.~

gav

[nathaneous]

Is it possible to have a live wallpaper on each of my 4 desktops?

Can only see it appearing on 1?

Thanks,

[kopte3]

When are we going to see true animated wallpapers? PR 1.2 is here.

[rolan900d]

When are we going to see true animated wallpapers? PR 1.2 is here.

In PR 1.3 I suppose

[cjp]

I'd be interested in hearing if this project has gone any further?

Obviously now we have working live wallpapers, but would be cool if someone could get it to a point where noobfish like myself could install and enjoy as well :(

[Bratag]

Lol,

What is it with mates when you lend them a phone...............

They always bloody lose or break em

eh em..sorry about that. :)

I have lost a NOKIA 6230i also a 6680 to my so called mates also had a joystick broken off on an old N73 i lent out for 2 weeks.

The trouble is i have a drawer full of old phones and when a mate needs a phone on a short term loan
I AM STILL DAFT ENOUGH TO LEND THEM OUT. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hopefully somebody will do me a good turn one day.. ;);)

Gave my wife my G1 when I got my nexus. I had the thing for over a year - not a scratch on it. She had it for 3 days. Put it in her bag and then spilled water all over it. DOA.

Sigh

[msa]

Gave my wife my G1 when I got my nexus. I had the thing for over a year - not a scratch on it. She had it for 3 days. Put it in her bag and then spilled water all over it. DOA.

Sigh

who pours water in his bag in the first place? :confused:

:D

[anaskr]

errr... stay on the topic guys :P

[leetut]

I'd be interested in hearing if this project has gone any further?

Obviously now we have working live wallpapers, but would be cool if someone could get it to a point where noobfish like myself could install and enjoy as well :(

xsnow works, i installed it from the repos,
its pretty cool to show friends
just click the menu icon and snow falls on the current desktop

[moepda]

xsnow works, i installed it from the repos,
its pretty cool to show friends
just click the menu icon and snow falls on the current desktop

sounds cool will give it a try :)

[nathaneous]

Does anyone know whether live wallpaper will support all 4 desktops in the future?

[mannakiosk]

So, I noticed that Live Wallpaper 0.5 is in extras-testing now...

QA page for voting:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.5/

[msa]

anyone tried? what has been improved?

[F2thaK]

....new icon

enable option....

[nosa101]

xsnow is pretty cool

[rolan900d]

So, I noticed that Live Wallpaper 0.5 is in extras-testing now...

QA page for voting:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.5/

Bug:

After reboot the activated wallpaper is no longer there (Matrix)..
Everytime that horrible trolley

[F2thaK]

how do you close xsnow !!??

[Parlapipas]

how do you close xsnow !!??

type killall xsnow in terminal

[geneven]

Bug:

After reboot the activated wallpaper is no longer there (Matrix)..
Everytime that horrible trolley

Yes. You have to go into the Live Wallpaper settings and click Save to get Matrix back.

[rolan900d]

Yes. You have to go into the Live Wallpaper settings and click Save to get Matrix back.

I did but now way to get it back after reboot...
Does it work on your end???

[tanya]

Bug:

After reboot the activated wallpaper is no longer there (Matrix)..
Everytime that horrible trolley

This bug has been fixed in version 0.5.1. Please test it

[tanya]

Does anyone know whether live wallpaper will support all 4 desktops in the future?

It will be done in version 0.6

[rolan900d]

This bug has been fixed in version 0.5.1. Please test it

Confirmed that it just has been fixed!
Great work indeed...

Great to see the next version comes with 4 live wallpaper on the screens...

I would love top see to see an GUI to add more that 4 wallpapers/desktops....

[jackie_jagger]

http://dailymobile.se/2010/06/29/android-super-mario-live-wallpaper/ <- I wish we could use this , awesome !!

[mangal_sk8erboy]

http://dailymobile.se/2010/06/29/android-super-mario-live-wallpaper/ <- I wish we could use this , awesome !!

aha..from dubai are you :P.

[jackie_jagger]

@Mangal: sure am =)

[Rapparee]

I skimed through this thread, and didn't see what kind of file is used on the wallpaper. So If I wanted to make my own I could. Or do we just send you Ideas and wait for them?

[bewrong]

backreading this is something i was suppoed to ask maemo.org :D

[lcuk]

I skimed through this thread, and didn't see what kind of file is used on the wallpaper. So If I wanted to make my own I could. Or do we just send you Ideas and wait for them?

the live background is a tweak to existing desktop widget code.
ie, if you have already written a fremantle widget, it should be adjustable to work as a background.
grab the source of one of the existing live backgrounds and see if you can understand it yourself, if you can then you aren't waiting any longer..

[riahc3]

BTW, that Super Mario thing is very easy. It is just a simple video of a speedrun of Super Mario.

Anyways, Its sad to see that this hasnt progressed much. Things IMO that are missing:

* Video support
* Weather/time interactive (You see a city as the background and as real time progresses, the sun/moon moves with daylight and nighttime coming into play and if it is really raining in your city, it will start to rain in the background. Also things like the forth of July, you see fireworks, etc)
* More than 1 wallpaper for multiple desktops (can be expanded to the above idea as multiple time zones/cities)

[rolan900d]

Maybe the developer has a life besides the N900?
Just my 2 cents....

[riahc3]

Maybe the developer has a life besides the N900?
Just my 2 cents....

And because of that we cant be sad that it hasnt progressed?

We arent mad at the developer just sad it hasnt progressed.

[mangal_sk8erboy]

would he change his mind if we THANKED him :P?
guys if you read this, just take some time to thank him!

[riahc3]

would he change his mind if we THANKED him :P?
guys if you read this, just take some time to thank him!

I dont think so. If he isnt intrested in the project any more, thats it.


Another feature this would need is random wallpapers on every startup or every x minutes.

All the features Ive posted exclude thinking of the battery life.

[vasvlad]

Version 0.6 of LiveWallpaper coming soon.

Vlad.

[riahc3]

Version 0.6 of LiveWallpaper coming soon.

Vlad.
Thank you for becoming reinterested in the project. We need more devs like yourself.

[vasvlad]

We have released new version of LiveWallpaper - 0.6.

This version has only one important feature - "Possibility to use all displays for show of animated wallpaper"


Vlad & Tanya

[lcuk]

I know we have live wallpaper ala city scenes and xsnow, but I have also been talking to the devs who implemented the live wallpaper support and got a few hints for prospective devs:


There is also the test program which could be easier to read than xsnow:
http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/hildon-desktop/blobs/master/tests/test-live-bg.c

we need to organise packaging really to make this a fully usable core example for others to base their designs off.

vlad,
hope you are well and the heatwave isn't getting you too much ;)

are you having any implementation issues which we could need to address, please do not hesitate to file bugs and mail me about them, we can discuss how to handle them with you :)

I have heard that other live-bg items may be in the pipeline too, so the smoother and more integrated we can get this, the better.

\o

ps, we should really sort out the first post on this thread and centralise the information currently pushed into this thread in a single wiki page/concise first post.
if we do make a wiki, can a moderator perhaps amend the first post to highlight this to save people digging through pages of info?

[wazd]

I'll try to sum up the info.

[vasvlad]

Thanks Lcuk.
I didn't know about xsnow and about example in hilson-desktop sources.
We will examine it.

Vlad.

[riahc3]

Great to see that this isnt dead and further work is being done.

Thanks to everyone for the work :)

[vasvlad]

Hi All.
Mustali Dalal (http://maemo.org/profile/view/archebyte/) has founded the serious bug of LiveWallpaper. http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.6/
I have fixed this problem in version 0.6.1. Please test it (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/live-wallpaper/0.6.1/).


Vlad.

[rolan900d]

Hi Vlad,

since the last update my battery is draining when the phone is offline during the night.
I haven't installed anything new but just enabled the other 3 screens with the live wallpaper!
Can it be that screen 2, 3 and 4 is causing the drainage?

[vasvlad]

Hi Vlad,

since the last update my battery is draining when the phone is offline during the night.
I haven't installed anything new but just enabled the other 3 screens with the live wallpaper!
Can it be that screen 2, 3 and 4 is causing the drainage?

Hmm. This is interesting. I'm going to check it tonight.

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

Hmm. This is interesting. I'm going to check it tonight.

Vlad.

No....
Just enabled the first screen and still a drainage...
maybe the app itself is eating my battery ???

[vasvlad]

No....
Just enabled the first screen and still a drainage...
maybe the app itself is eating my battery ???

Thanks for feedback.
I have found the source of this problem and have relesead version 0.6.2
Please test it.

Please reboot your device after update.

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

Thanks for feedback.
I have found the source of this problem and have relesead version 0.6.2
Please test it.

Please reboot your device after update.

Vlad.

Fixed on my end....
Cheers Vlad

[vasvlad]

We almost done the new version of livewallpaper - 0.7
It will be a very interesting release.
We are going to make youtube video tomorow.

Vlad and Tanya.

[puiradu]

Hi!
I have this problem. I installed latest version of Live Wallpaper, 0.6.2, from extras-devel. Now I remove it. Of course I did the necessary reboots. Now every time i go to settings menu, when the applet is opening I see the Live Wallpaper configutation menu, than is gone. Annoyng! Please help me to remove this! I think not all the files were correctly uninstalled. I attached two screenshot to see.

Thanks!

[nicolai]

Rebuild Settings Menu / Cache (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=563700)

Delete the file
/home/user/.cache/launch/com.nokia.controlpanel.pvr
and reboot.

[vasvlad]

Hi.
I just uploaded demo of version 0.7 to youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CWd1q8RLU

Vlad.

[ryanl33x1511]

plan on release it?

[rolan900d]

Hi.
I just uploaded demo of version 0.7 to youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CWd1q8RLU

Vlad.

Oh my Vlad....
That video option was soooo cool!!!!

Great job

[F2thaK]

wow!

I want the accelerometer one NOW


XD

[rolan900d]

wow!

I want the accelerometer one NOW


XD

It was cool indeed....

[nathaneous]

looks good. is their any plans to make a loopable live wallpaper theme?

[rolan900d]

looks good. is their any plans to make a loopable live wallpaper theme?

Great idea....

[F2thaK]

hows the battery go with this on four screens?

i see the phones on charge in vid

[rolan900d]

It will suck it dry I guess...

I will be using the video wallpaper not as the normal 'everyday' use screen

[F2thaK]

i will test it, i only have 1 screen and minimal apps/widgets that use battery

[vasvlad]

plan on release it?

After weekend. We are going to fish this weekend while the weather is fine ;)

Vlad

[vasvlad]

looks good. is their any plans to make a loopable live wallpaper theme?
This is the very interesting idea. I'm going to think about it after the release version 0.7

Vlad.

[rolan900d]

After weekend. We are going to fish this weekend while the weather is fine ;)

Vlad

So we have to wait?!

Damn......

LOL:D

[ryanl33x1511]

can u be able to stretch the wallpaper out to all 4 screen ?

[Bazza]

Video wallpaper looks great, fantastic work.

Is there a time limit on the length of the video?

and also what video formats does it use?

i noticed on the video you used mp4.

[rolan900d]

I would love to see an extension of the desktops...

I want to use more desktops (around 7 of them)...
The manual 'Matan' way never worked 4 me...

It would be great to have it in here....

[F2thaK]

well........................?

[F2thaK]

i want acceletometer live wallpaper...!!!



(please :D)

[ryanl33x1511]

count me one for that.

[vasvlad]

Video wallpaper looks great, fantastic work.

Is there a time limit on the length of the video?

and also what video formats does it use?

i noticed on the video you used mp4.
No limit. Video plays any formats.

Vlad.

[F2thaK]

tease! release it already

:D
(please..!)

[rolan900d]

tease! release it already

:D
(please..!)

Hahahahaha....
Settle down mate!
:)

[vasvlad]

I would love to see an extension of the desktops...

I want to use more desktops (around 7 of them)...
The manual 'Matan' way never worked 4 me...

It would be great to have it in here....

Hmm. We will to try make it later.

Vlad.

[Tiboric]

Hi.
I just uploaded demo of version 0.7 to youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CWd1q8RLU

Vlad.

Fantastic work, any chance you'll release this tonight?

[F2thaK]

yes, im itching to try the accelerometer bg !

[Bazza]

No limit on video playback woooooo hooooooo!!!!!!!!

endless possibilities.:D:D:D

[nathaneous]

is the new version likely to be released today? just installed the old version by mistake after seein it appear again on the homepage :)

[vasvlad]

I'm going to release 0.7 tonight.

Vlad.

[giecsar]

Hi Vlad and first of all congrats for the great work. Now I would like to ask to please stop the normal development and focus on optimization for a while, I believe it's critical! I personally disabled it right after I installed it because it was unbearable, especially if you have a number of widgets on the desktop!

[vasvlad]

Hi Vlad and first of all congrats for the great work. Now I would like to ask to please stop the normal development and focus on optimization for a while, I believe it's critical! I personally disabled it right after I installed it because it was unbearable, especially if you have a number of widgets on the desktop!

Hmm. What kind of problem do you mean?
Did you try new version 0.7?
I need real bug reports.

Vlad.

[vasvlad]

Version 0.7 of LiveWallpaper is available in extras-devel. Plese test and report about problem.

Vlad.

P.S. please reboot your device after upgrading of package.

[Omega180984]

BIG BIG THX!!!

The only thing i need is a android 2.2 galaxy video ;) hehe

mfg

[Tiboric]

Version 0.7 of LiveWallpaper is available in extras-devel. Plese test and report about problem.

Vlad.

P.S. please reboot your device after upgrading of package.

Thank you so much for the amazing work, well done!!

anybody got any good vids for their desktop, please share, I'm gona go for a desert island beach.

[cfh11]

Now to get this one running....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g58o9w0bg4&feature=fvw

[leetut]

vasvlad, this is now beyond awesome!
thanks for the great work
app feels really stable to me here

[Bratag]

Now to get this one running....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g58o9w0bg4&feature=fvw

Easy - just download a video of super mario play and put that in as a wallpaper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_myF9Yv0Q

Grab that - strip the sound, grab the part you want .... badabing

[Bazza]

I can't find it in the repo's, i know this a daft question but what is it called in the repo's?

[nathaneous]

I can't find it in the repo's, i know this a daft question but what is it called in the repo's?

its called live wallpaper.
try refreshing your app manager by disabling and then enabling the extras repo.

[Fumanchu]

any chance of a rippling water effect desktop, used to use a program called ultimate desktop on windows xp, with a reflective puddle that had the odd ripple as an invisible droplet dropped into it in random places, you could select from clouds as a reflection or a moonlit night sky...

[gerar]

I'm going to release 0.7 tonight.

Vlad.



Hi Vlad... It is awesome! Thanks my friend... From venezuela a huge hug. i was waiting for this app for long time ago.

[Bazza]

its called live wallpaper.
try refreshing your app manager by disabling and then enabling the extras repo.

Thanks for the reply but i have found the problem.................

I already had it and i was looking in the repo's and not update :rolleyes::rolleyes:

WHAT A PLONKER :D:D:D

EDIT

Right got it working great.

but

Is anyone else experiencing stuttering on video playback?


Great work by the way Vlad. ;)

[couldvbb]

If we can increase this better ''Beauty Watch''
http://www.android-hk.com/wallpapers-live-wallpapers/beauty-clock-live-wallpaper/

[F2thaK]

No limit on video playback woooooo hooooooo!!!!!!!!

endless possibilities.:D:D:D

This is not true I hate to tell ya....

.................................................. ....................

epic update my friend, loving it..

also, does the accelerometer stop "polling" when screen is locked, as to me it doesnt look like it does..:D

.................................................. ...................

I found some really cool looping bg vids but they play reeeeeaaaaallllllllyyyyyyy slow.... !! dammmm !


edit: although the mp4s that came with device play almost perfectly

so they have to be 800x480 ??

[Bazza]

This is not true I hate to tell ya....

Why ????? :eek::eek:

[kazuki]

i tested 0.7 yesterday. i noticed that when i turn on all 4 live wallpapers doesn't matter same or different, there would be at least 1 desktop thats not working or buggier. for example, if i turn on matrix live on all 4 desktops, 1 of the desktops would be blank or have blank gabs or the matrix symbols just turn into 1 big green pixel. its not always the same desktops having this problem, if i reset the problematic desktop, the next one will get the same problem.

i couldn't get xsnow to work either. videos r very laggy especially when not using native themes. n overall it looks like it needs some optimizing, a good way to kill my battery as the cpu usage constantly hover over 50%

[Bazza]

Sorted out the choppy video playback problem.

Live wallpaper seems to like an mp4 encoded file best.

So i converted some .mov files to mp4 set at 800x480 resolution at 30 fps with bitrate set to 1200 kbps

i used 'super' video converter and the results are good.

Try these samples i converted from the link below.

SUNRISE CLOUDS WAVES MP4 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0QT4YXS2)

[F2thaK]

yes thats what I mean Bazza... vids dont work very well at all... :(

let us know how you go, as Ive found some awesome vids (youtube search: liquid loop)

[Bazza]

Sorted it

I set the fps and bitrate to convert too high and live wallpaper didn't seem to like it, i could have pushed it more but wanted to share what i have found first.

The link to my samples are in post 240 on previous page

[F2thaK]

NICE work Bazza, I like the sunrise one!

Its great theyre short and loop :)

cheers

[F2thaK]

So, Ive found a shitful bug in v0.7

If you have a video set as a background, you cannot connect N900 to PC in mass storage mode - it says "cannot connect - device storage in use"

If you disable video bg, it will then connect no problems..

I have verified this and it sucks.

[maxximuscool]

I suggest accelerometer matrix wallpaper :) That is going be nice as f***

[F2thaK]

you mean you want them to make an acelerometer matrix bg? would be cool

[maxximuscool]

you mean you want them to make an acelerometer matrix bg? would be cool

affirmative! The live matrix bg with accelerometer. So you can turn it and still get the bg falling lol. I like

[giannoug]

@f2thak

For a wordaround, move the video file on /home/user instead of /home/user/MyDocs and it won't complain again :)

[F2thaK]

affirmative! The live matrix bg with accelerometer. So you can turn it and still get the bg falling lol. I like

Im gonna look into modifying the accel bg tonight... :D

[F2thaK]

@f2thak

For a wordaround, move the video file on /home/user instead of /home/user/MyDocs and it won't complain again :)

Tried this but you can only select vids in MyDocs! :confused: