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Meego image ?
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_native_install_on_N900
anyone tested?
There are also wiki entries for
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_kexec_install_on_N900
and
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_chroot_install_on_N900
Please read the announcement at meego.com before flashing anything.
EDIT: http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2010/day-1-here-opening-meego-development
Please read the announcement at meego.com before flashing anything.
Where's the announcement, Quim?
Where's the announcement, Quim?
Was just going to ask the same. Wasn't this meant to be released tomorrow anyways... and no i'm not complaining :D
quipper8
2010-03-31, 17:25
downloading closed version now :) cant wait to check it out
Flashed and all i see is basic xwindows with a terminal open
On Irc they say its only a shell,
no gui for the first ??
fuzenify
2010-03-31, 17:28
http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2010/day-1-here-opening-meego-development
"..these images will boot into terminal."
love to mess up my device :)
Flashed and all i see is basic xwindows with a terminal open
Congratulation of downloading MeeGo for developers ;)
Now it's official:
http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2010/day-1-here-opening-meego-development
Ones who try, please upload a YouTube video then if you can.
(try to focus to the text correctly or it is useless)
lshal, lsusb, lsmod, df -h, mount, ifconfig - for those commands cut+paste of the outputs (or a well focused photo) would be interesting to see also.
fuzenify
2010-03-31, 17:46
Seems like people do not get it, this is N900 after flashing:
http://www.students.tut.fi/~haapasa4/n900_meego.jpg
Have fun with flashing (and after it) ;)
can someone please upload some screen shots after they flashed meego on their phone. i'm a newbie so i can't try to flash it.. :) thanks.
can someone please upload some screen shots after they flashed meego on their phone. i'm a newbie so i can't try to flash it.. :) thanks.
You have it in the message just before yours.
Seems like people do not get it, this in N900 after flashing:
http://www.students.tut.fi/~haapasa4/n900_meego.jpg
Have fun with flashing (and after it) ;)
a terminal? not even in fullscreen?
I just had the most horrible end to my excitement.:(
but as always looking forward for the next one with great hope...
You have it in the message just before yours.
is that the finished one? i think he's still flashing it on his device.. and its not yet done...
is that the finished one? i think he's still flashing it on his device.. and its not yet done...
pretty sure thats it. Thats why its called a development version...
it has no gui and is command only like xterm hence why it is for devolopers and not end users
please dont expect a finished fancy ui as it isnt there from what ive read and from what other users have posted
This alpha version takes up a lot on the rootfs (73%). Will there be room for everything else (GUI for example?)
Eikido
This version may contain stuff that will be removed.. anyway it's CERTAIN there'll be space for the GUI :)
HangLoose
2010-03-31, 18:51
a terminal? not even in fullscreen?
I just had the most horrible end to my excitement.:(
but as always looking forward for the next one with great hope...
Yes, sadly Nokia and Intel seem to be very lazy...
But sinc the code is out, you can contribute tons of time for it and make a better job than those 2 are doing right? :rolleyes:
And as always looking forward for the next one with great hope... :D
Lets see what you will bring in one month..
Let the speculation begin
Why Lazy?
MeeGo is just a 'base' system that will be something that many platform will share in the near future.
The MeeGo that'll run on the N900 is based on this MeeGo that has been released today (fully open) with some additional closed source components and drivers that can't be released into the open due to licensing (as shame as that is).
They kept their word on what was about to be released.
If I read it correctly, the first MeeGo User Experience will be shown sometime in May.
Anyway.. this is the first day, the very first day and we're going to see how a fully blown system is going to be build almost from the very scratch.
Image this as a basic Ubuntu with no UI.. then on top of this we're going to get Xubuntu, Kubuntu and so on (i.e. the Ubuntu User Experiences).
This is what we've got today.
The MeeGo foundation. The first blocks.
HangLoose
2010-03-31, 19:03
Seems that you dont get sarcasm...
I was actually making fun of the post of the other guy cos apparently he seems to be able to do a much better job than Nokia+Intel, but you kinda killed my joke...
Anywho, <The next statement will also be sarcastic>Guess my accent sucks..
After Day 1, the rest will follow soon – in the next few days, we will post the next steps leading to the first release of MeeGo in May.
http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2010/day-1-here-opening-meego-development
So this is what we got today. Very promising. After year or two we may have a decently working system with some kind of GUI and some applications, then it’s nice to start from the scratch again. :D
It’s not a phone it’s a R&D-device for developers.
Techtertainment
2010-03-31, 19:27
Why Lazy?
MeeGo is just a 'base' system that will be something that many platform will share in the near future.
The MeeGo that'll run on the N900 is based on this MeeGo that has been released today (fully open) with some additional closed source components and drivers that can't be released into the open due to licensing (as shame as that is).
They kept their word on what was about to be released.
If I read it correctly, the first MeeGo User Experience will be shown sometime in May.
Anyway.. this is the first day, the very first day and we're going to see how a fully blown system is going to be build almost from the very scratch.
Image this as a basic Ubuntu with no UI.. then on top of this we're going to get Xubuntu, Kubuntu and so on (i.e. the Ubuntu User Experiences).
This is what we've got today.
The MeeGo foundation. The first blocks.
Could not have said it better myself... The release was exactly what i was expecting. Will join in the fun once my QT and programming skills come up to scratch but for now i am watching the developments in Gitorious with enthusiasm, ready to get involved.
To the teams that were involved with this initial release, great work. I think it is very positive to see a release in such a short space of time and it's good to know that things are on track according to the schedule.
Some questions here, what is the kernel version?
As a non-developer, I assume that this release for N900 is already past the points that make it so difficult to port other operating systems like Android to N900? (drivers or whatever it is that developers struggle with)
As developers, what will you test in this release?
vivainio
2010-03-31, 20:15
a terminal? not even in fullscreen?
I just had the most horrible end to my excitement.:(
but as always looking forward for the next one with great hope...
This runs somewhat contrary to tradition indeed:
http://glyph.twistedmatrix.com/2008/12/x-window-system.html
I was expecting at least xeyes and xclock to be there.
Seems that you dont get sarcasm...
Nope, sorry I didn't get it :)
That's fine :p
Nothing to worry about
Aniello
Repository is so slow. I think people don't know what they're downloading. I haven't got a chance to grab it yet, but it seems like the netbook image didn't have qt in it.
Is meego built on something or is it coded from 0 (apart from the linux kernel)?
vivainio
2010-03-31, 20:48
Is meego built on something or is it coded from 0 (apart from the linux kernel)?
It has a fairly familiar Linux userspace as well, just like maemo and Moblin.
To the teams that were involved with this initial release, great work. I think it is very positive to see a release in such a short space of time and it's good to know that things are on track according to the schedule.
I am very impressed too.
Once I started making my own Linux distribution, but I dropped the idea after some basic work when I realized how much work it is.
It's amazing how quick the working MeeGo was created.
omeriko9
2010-03-31, 21:37
Does anyone have an idea how can this be dual booted with fremantle?
Where should I put the file, for example?
roger_27
2010-03-31, 21:58
omfg. nokia / intel unviel a revolutionary new car engine, and people are complaining about the fenders and doors.
give it some time dudes, seriously!! it will be great!
mobiledivide
2010-03-31, 21:58
Does anyone have an idea how can this be dual booted with fremantle?
Where should I put the file, for example?
Link (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_chroot_install_on_N900)
This is a great start.
For all the users who don't get it, we can literally watch the OS from the beginning to the end of development. Getting insights to how decisions are made etc. This is having control over your device at a whole new level. Previous maemo releases we had to wait for Nokia to release firmware packages, development for Meego is done completely in the open.
This is a lot bigger than simply having no Ovi store and no fancy UI available on day 1. If you want something that simply works and has 1000's of apps eye candy etc you will probably be waiting till end of the year. There is a May release that will have UX packages and another release in October.
bartekxyz
2010-03-31, 22:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgVTQG1qbas
Probably you've seen it before. But it's fake anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgVTQG1qbas
Probably you've seen it before. But it's fake anyway.
its not fake its harmattan/maemo 6 demo you can install it on n900 from extras-devel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgVTQG1qbas
Probably you've seen it before. But it's fake anyway.
Actually, it isn't. For a while, that was packaged for the n900, before being yanked.
It's not known whether that will be used for MeeGo, but if you want to experiment with the tech shown there, that is 'libdui', available on http://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework
Orbit (another UI approach) seems to be taking a slightly better approach though, so it's not really set in stone.
Could summat like LXDE be easily ported to this Meego build?
Sorry for the n00b question!
Seems that you dont get sarcasm...
I was actually making fun of the post of the other guy cos apparently he seems to be able to do a much better job than Nokia+Intel, but you kinda killed my joke...
Anywho, <The next statement will also be sarcastic>Guess my accent sucks..
I don't think you get much either. If I were to think I could do better than them why in the world would I hope for the next one with great hope. That was just coz I was at least expecting some GUI and who wasn't? not at least the terminal that won't even show up in fullscreen..
felbutss
2010-04-01, 02:09
is that the finished one? i think he's still flashing it on his device.. and its not yet done...
Lol that is meego. What did you expect??? A full blown OS coded in a few months???
It has no GUI. That was mentioned ages ago. It won’t have a GUI for its first stages. Give them time to work on it.
azndude706
2010-04-01, 02:50
OOooo man not good idea! was curious and flashed this, and i now have no idea what to do!!, how to i reflash back to regular firmware!!! ahh someone help plz?? i try doing a reflash in maemo flasher, i ran flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R in meamo flashaer 3.5 but i got using flashing protocol Mk II. nothing happen after! someone help me plz?
Make sure you're getting the correct image from that site. Pretty sure the eMMC one isn't the right one.
More detailed instructions are here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Windows
Why Lazy?
MeeGo is just a 'base' system that will be something that many platform will share in the near future.
The MeeGo that'll run on the N900 is based on this MeeGo that has been released today (fully open) with some additional closed source components and drivers that can't be released into the open due to licensing (as shame as that is).
They kept their word on what was about to be released.
If I read it correctly, the first MeeGo User Experience will be shown sometime in May.
Anyway.. this is the first day, the very first day and we're going to see how a fully blown system is going to be build almost from the very scratch.
Image this as a basic Ubuntu with no UI.. then on top of this we're going to get Xubuntu, Kubuntu and so on (i.e. the Ubuntu User Experiences).
This is what we've got today.
The MeeGo foundation. The first blocks.
wow im glad i read before flashing..... well, i lied. i was trying to flash but the instructions they give dont work for me..!! then i read this...........!!!! :D
Is meego built on something or is it coded from 0 (apart from the linux kernel)?
Look the updated architecture diagram at http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture
As promised, MeeGo is a merge of the best of Moblin and the best of Maemo.
flailingmonkey
2010-04-01, 05:04
Interesting, the "Security" piece of the architecture is not yet ready for release. Will the MeeGo Security architecture be based on the Harmattan approach?
Look the updated architecture diagram at http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture
Interesting picture, still not as informative as I hoped. Any news about the PIM architecture? Any way to implement searching PIM content including local email, calendar, contacts, SMS, MMS, IM, etc... What is the backend for PIM data, some database with proper indexing of content?
Is it possible to install MeeGo onto a "Desktop" type of PC?
E.g. Install Intel-based MeeGo onto a "standard" laptop (e.g. 1.8ghz AMD Athlon, 512mb of RAM, ATI Xpress video card).
This would be very cool. To a certain extent you could do away with a gnome or kde environment and install MeeGo instead.
You home PC & portable device could run exactly the same OS!
I like that idea.
ThomasAH
2010-04-01, 08:07
Is it possible to install MeeGo onto a "Desktop" type of PC?
E.g. Install Intel-based MeeGo onto a "standard" laptop (e.g. 1.8ghz AMD Athlon, 512mb of RAM, ATI Xpress video card).
This would be very cool. To a certain extent you could do away with a gnome or kde environment and install MeeGo instead.
You home PC & portable device could run exactly the same OS!
I like that idea.
I'm not sure, but from what I understand that's one of the mayor innovative 'features' of MeeGo :) Platform independancy, being able to easily run the same applications on your desktop and your phone... Or am I wrong here?
abubakar
2010-04-01, 13:44
awesome stuff ..
So what are ppl doing who have installed it? Are they making apps? I have seen the terminal shots, is the gui installable afterwards? Usb charging working? Any text based browsing :) (wifi drivers/hardware working?)
I was really excited to post meego's day 1 links to my friends! Thanks intel and nokia.
TheThane
2010-04-01, 14:15
Lol the best Os Interface, Terminal :D
This is a lot bigger than simply having no Ovi store and no fancy UI available on day 1. If you want something that simply works and has 1000's of apps eye candy etc you will probably be waiting till end of the year. There is a May release that will have UX packages and another release in October.
This space is moving really fast. Development is going to have to be faster than that or Meego is going to get left in the dust. Look how many iPhones apple has sold and Nokia has yet to release an update to Maemo 5, let alone ship Maemo 6.
from which I know 29940 are useless...
from which I know 29940 are useless...
Of iPhone/iPad apps? That's a pretty good %, since they're nearing to 200,000 apps now.
mobiledivide
2010-04-01, 15:15
This space is moving really fast. Development is going to have to be faster than that or Meego is going to get left in the dust. Look how many iPhones apple has sold and Nokia has yet to release an update to Maemo 5, let alone ship Maemo 6.
I'm sure all the corporations involved have taken this into consideration. Their strategy I cannot be sure of, but I agree that moving quickly is probably in their best interest. As for myself I am simply a user, I use an N900 daily as my main comms device, have a Symbian 5800 as a backup and keep most of my media and games on an iPod touch 2G. I still find myself most excited by the N900 and meego.
Interesting picture, still not as informative as I hoped.
If you have questions about the MeeGo architecture please ask at the meego-dev mailing list.
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