Facebook automatically goes to mobile version now [Corrected by Facebook]

[ZackMorris]

So I just noticed that thru the browser facebook goes straight to mobile version now and ever since I owned the N900 it was the regular version, is there anyway to get out of the mobile mode?

[gom4381]

I don't have the N900 anymore but on my nexus one there is usually an option at the bottom of the page for touch, mobile, and the regular site

[Gazzlam]

I noticed that today too!! Annoying!!!!

Particularly since there is no "full site" button on that screen, you have to do "touch site" then "full site" grrr!

I know there is something in the repositories that prevents MicroB from admitting you are on a phone, and subsequently sites think you are on a PC... but I don't want that. I want a cookie or something to remember I want full site view

[automagic68]

I am just having the same problem I need help to fix this.

[chase15]

having the same prob.. after it loads... just remove "m" on the link.. and that will fix it...

[ZackMorris]

Yeah I went to touch site then full site and saved that as my desktop bookmark, seemed to have fixed it. I guess fb finally started to recognize the N900.

[Magel282]

Yea mine does this now to.. Facebook must be able to detect mobile devices now and refer it to the "appropriate" version of the site.

[Gazzlam]

I've just looked at the "full site" link, and it's a bloody javascript command, not a hyperlink... crap... maybe someone smarter than me can figure this out.

It annoys me that if you go to m.facebook.com, you get the mobile version...
If you go to touch.facebook.com, you get a slightly better mobile version...
Nothing that sends you to the full site though (although 0.facebook.com is a new thing that works for some carriers - just not mine)

[azz]

same here...maybe i'll rebookmark facebook again...

[Gazzlam]

same here...maybe i'll rebookmark facebook again...

I'm guessing it's not that simple.... if it is, I'll kick myself!

[toille]

Simplist solution is bookmark: www.facebook.com/?m2w

this will take you to the full site straight away

[Gazzlam]

---- Fix Found! ----

Change your bookmark to:
http://facebook.com/home.php

if you don't put the actual home.php bit in, it reverts to m.facebook.com. Worked 3 times in a row now

[Edsal]

it still work's on firefox

[Memph1s]

hmm, I'm having the same problem, going to try firefox now though. Should have tried this first as firefox is clearly a far superior browser than most others!

[nathaneous]

this might seem like a stupid question but...
what internet connection are you using to access facebook on microb? Are you using your carriers WAP connection or a WI-FI connection?

[Memph1s]

ok tried this and it is still only accessing the mobile site! fml!

[Gazzlam]

@ nataneous - I'm on wi-fi at the moment. Either way just reads the browser and device type and reports it back to facebook. But the above method seems to force it to the full site anyway.

[The Arsonist]

I'm so tired of Facebook making completely pointless alterations to this site. The interface is clunky and the interface chat is horrendous(and I'm just referring to the full desktop version). Not to mention all the problems with unnecessary invasion of privacy(just google Openbook fo get a real idea). Now they're reverting a FRIGGIN INTERNET TABLET to a MOBILE text-only site(not even the touch or good mobile site)?!? This device is more than capable of handling their crappy interface, why the heck would they ever find it necessary to take away the full version from us? Looks like I'll be sticking to the Facebrick app and Jabber from now on. The widget that came preloaded with the damn n900 is pointless now.

[optimaxxx]

yeah, i love how they can recognise "you're on an N900" but they think we want/need that shyte interface?!

i HATE fb!!

[maheshwararaju]

having the same prob.. after it loads... just remove "m" on the link.. and that will fix it...

thanks a lt

[cortina61]

firefox goes to mobile site too. I tried bookmarking as per some of the suggestions on here but doesnt work.
so annoying, fb display on n900 was one of my favourite things!

[Scharel]

I just wrote a propose to facebook to set back the full facebook site as the default site for the N900. Let's hope that they won't ignore it...

[vabgeo]

changed my bookmark to http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w

[Scharel]

changed my bookmark to http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w

that doesn't work on my N900

[jabba_29]

Nothing that sends you to the full site though You can get to that site from mobile -> touch -> full.

At is at the bottom of the page, below the settings link IIRC.

Absolute PITA. To add to the pain there is a link to download a bookmark for facebook for the N900. This takes you to getjar ->
sorry your phone is not support..


WTF!

Anyway, will change my bookmarks to see if this helps - brings up a little "bug" though - why can't we edit bookmarks??

[jaysire]

Plus, if I go from mobile -> touch -> full and then click on a person's name to see their profile, it throws me back to the mobile site. I think fb is broken (again).

[jabba_29]

Noticed that when I tried to select friends list too.
Sure they will fix it soon, but hopefully is happening to more than just N900 users so we are not left out!

[9000]

Change the URL might not fix the problem, as facebook can still track you down by user agent, and even the http://www.facebook.com/home.php will recognize you eventually.

The solution to the problem(once and for all) is to change the user agent of your MicroB.

Procedure to change user agent:
1) In the address bar of MicroB, type about:config
2) you'll be prompted a warning of warrant void something, do not proceed if you're afraid
3) in the filter, type user
4) you can find "general.useragent.vendor" at the bottom, select it and press enter
5) change the user agent in the dialog box to something else like "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)" (without quotes)

Now browse ANY site without having to worry about switching to mobile page.

Hope this help.

[Scharel]

Anyway, will change my bookmarks to see if this helps - brings up a little "bug" though - why can't we edit bookmarks??

You can edit them by pushing and holding, then a menu appears.

[lucas777]

just remove the .m and reload fixed.

[felbutss]

change the url might not fix the problem, as facebook can still track you down by user agent, and even the http://www.facebook.com/home.php will recognize you eventually.

The solution to the problem(once and for all) is to change the user agent of your microb. Do not try the package hideuseragent, it doesn't work in this case.

Procedure to change user agent:
1) in the address bar of microb, type about:config
2) you'll be prompted a warning of warrant void something, do not proceed if you're afraid
3) in the filter, type user
4) you can find "general.useragent.vendor" at the bottom, select it and press enter
5) change the user agent in the dialog box to something else like "mozilla/5.0 (windows; u; windows nt 6.1; en-us)" (without quotes)

now browse any site without having to worry about switching to mobile page.

Hope this help.




that worked. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[9000]

that worked. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad that it works for you so it does for me.

However, some call me that it doesn't work for him. I know what happen. It seems that the browser reload the /home/user/.mozilla/microb/prefs.js.

A quick fix would be running this BEFORE change the about:config, or /home/user/.mozilla/microb/prefs.js:

(as root)invoke-rc.d tablet-browser-daemon stop

STILL it doesn't work for some people neither! The invoke-rc.d tablet-browser-daemon stop actually killall browser; kill browserd. To my dismay invoke-rc.d tablet-browser-daemon stop doesn't really kill browser and browserd at all!

It might be due to some apps he has been installed which keeps the browser daemon running, and which apps would cause the browser running forever in the background is out of my knowledge really.

Therefore, if you couldn't change your useragent because of this, you can still browser http://www.facebook.com/home.php

For the time being let me explore how to force MicroB to reload the change. I'll update you as soon as I find it.

[figgefred]

Bookmark the following site:
http://www.facebook.com/?m2w
it directs you directly to the main site. Work for me without any problems at all.

[9000]

I know http://www.facebook.com/?m2w and http://www.facebook.com/home.php works, but only at Facebook Inc.'s mercy. They could still make these two pages recognize useragent and throw you to the mobile page, if they see fit.

So the solution would be changing the useragent permanently. It seems that not everything could change the agent successfully by change about:config or /home/user/.mozilla/microb/prefs.js

While I'm still reseraching on it, anyone would give a hints on changing the useragent permanently would greatly welcome.

[akw123]

i noticed this when i log in to fb today , well gotta say , it is freaking annoying !!

[Pigro]

The solution to the problem(once and for all) is to change the user agent of your MicroB. DO NOT TRY the package hideuseragent, it doesn't work in this case.


why do you think hideuseragent wouldn't work? I used it 10 mins ago and it worked for me (unless facebook have changed the site). Needed to do it this way cos fb was arbitrarily reverting to mobile mid-session even after having been manually set to normal version.

EDIT - 12 feckin' pages? ... sheesh. We could have stopped here. Just set the user agent like I said, forget the next "X" pages of this thread, and go do something something more intresting that's actually worth posting on your status, guys!

[9000]

why do you think hideuseragent wouldn't work? I used it 10 mins ago and it worked for me (unless facebook have changed the site). Needed to do it this way cos fb was arbitrarily reverting to mobile mid-session even after having been manually set to normal version.

Because it sometime causes MicroB to download home.php instead of browsing it. I won't re-install it again so I can't reproduce the problem for you. If anyone is interested, you can install it and try it out.

[mukks]

ohh no,, pls someone get a fix for this, i always use the facebook widget and clicking it will take me to full site, now its the crappy mobile version.

I have another question - is it possible to make facebook widget open Touch version instead of mobile ver, which looks 100 time better.

[korpi]

I just wrote a propose to facebook to set back the full facebook site as the default site for the N900. Let's hope that they won't ignore it...

Lets all do this propose to fb and perhaps we get default to full page. ofcourse changing useragent does the trick but really dont want to do that.

[9000]

OK! I got it fixed! This time by using hideuseragent. I'm sorry to the maintainer of the hideuseragent that I said before it doesn't work for facebook. Yes, default hideuseragent doesn't work for http://m.facebook.com, it's the FAULT of facebook, because it tends to throw everything it won't recognize to mobile version. (See the first screenshot)

Here is the procedures to change User Agent of MicroB:

1) (As root) apt-get install hideuseragent
2) Go to Setting, find Hide User Agent
3) Click User Agent
4) Enter(better copy&paste): Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.1.16 RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2
5) Press Set (See second screenshot)

Now you can browse the http://www.facebook.com full version.

In response to mukks, you may change the user agent to the following if you want it to redirect you to Facebook Touch:

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.4; U; Series60/5.0 Nokia5800d-1/21.0.025; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaE71/1.00.000; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A542a Safari/419.3

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A400 Safari/528.16

Mozilla/5.0(iPad; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B314 Safari/531.21.10


Hope this help.

Ref: http://gerrymoth.co.uk/?p=108


(I think we can make it as FIXED now. ^^)

EDIT: Thanks to Santiago at #55, the following user agent can work with facebook's chat. Therefore, the procedures above are changed accordingly:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.1.16 RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2

[mr_bridger]

every time i go onto facebook, it keeps defaulting to the mobile site. ie m.facebook.com not www.facebook.com

any ideas why???

i usually access it by clicking the widget. it comes up with the www address but then loads the m. page.

both on wifi and vodafone uk.

thoughts???

[pantera1989]

Have you tried changing the user agent? There is an app somewhere. Search for user agent. Make sure you tick on "Check title and Description"

[mukks]

Thanks a lot.. using "hideuseragent" works.

[Doonie]

mine has done this also, last night was fine. this morning defaulting to mobile site! and I haven't done anything

[joelus]

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=670320#post670320

[yves1976]

OK! I got it fixed! This time by using hideuseragent. I'm sorry to the maintainer of the hideuseragent that I said before it doesn't work for facebook. Yes, default hideuseragent doesn't work for http://m.facebook.com, it's the FAULT of facebook, because it tends to throw everything it won't recognize to mobile version. (See the first screenshot)

Here is the procedures to change User Agent of MicroB:

1) (As root) apt-get install hideuseragent
2) Go to Setting, find Hide User Agent
3) Click User Agent
4) Enter: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)
5) Press Set (See second screenshot)

Now you can browse the http://www.facebook.com full version.

In response to mukks, you may change the user agent to the following if you want it to redirect you to Facebook Touch:

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.4; U; Series60/5.0 Nokia5800d-1/21.0.025; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaE71/1.00.000; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A542a Safari/419.3

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A400 Safari/528.16

Mozilla/5.0(iPad; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B314 Safari/531.21.10


Hope this help.

Ref: http://gerrymoth.co.uk/?p=108


(I think we can make it as FIXED now. ^^)

It works~ Thank you so much!!!

[numair87]

This is the solution provided at the other thread and it works:

OK! I got it fixed! This time by using hideuseragent. I'm sorry to the maintainer of the hideuseragent that I said before it doesn't work for facebook. Yes, default hideuseragent doesn't work for http://m.facebook.com, it's the FAULT of facebook, because it tends to throw everything it won't recognize to mobile version. (See the first screenshot)

Here is the procedures to change User Agent of MicroB:

1) (As root) apt-get install hideuseragent
2) Go to Setting, find Hide User Agent
3) Click User Agent
4) Enter: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)
5) Press Set (See second screenshot)

Now you can browse the http://www.facebook.com full version.

In response to mukks, you may change the user agent to the following if you want it to redirect you to Facebook Touch:

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.4; U; Series60/5.0 Nokia5800d-1/21.0.025; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaE71/1.00.000; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A542a Safari/419.3

Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A400 Safari/528.16

Mozilla/5.0(iPad; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B314 Safari/531.21.10

[adalal]

or, as a temporary work around, just scroll right down to the bottom, and choose whether you want to go to the touch site or the full site, and I have written to Facebook regarding this, although I'm not actually expecting them to notice it anyways!

[EmmaGx]

... for the time being I'm just using a new bookmark .... really facebook need to fix this though ... it's wholly ridiculous to throw a phone like the n900 to the mobile site ... hopefully if enough of us complain they'll see that they've made a mistake!

[ravenblip]

wat do u mean in step 5 when u said "press Set?

[9000]

wat do u mean in step 5 when u said "press Set?

Do you see the "Set" button in the second screenshot of #40? You need to press this to activate the change, just changing the user agent alone it is not enough.

[sjgadsby]

The thread "Facebook defaulting to mobile site?" with six posts has been merged into this thread.

[euanandrews]

What a pain in the A hole.

To go directly to the main site, dont type just http://www.facebook.com/ that will go to the mobile site....
Intead, enter http://www.facebook.com/home.php
That will take you directly to the main site.

[felbutss]

it worked for me since i dont use facebook. and pritty much went on the site just to test the about:config settings tweak.

[santiago]

Ovi store doesnt work... who cares... the chat in facebook doesnt work? use this user agent :D

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.1.16 RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2

[wazza747]

Ovi store doesnt work... who cares... the chat in facebook doesnt work? use this user agent :D

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.1.16 RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2


thanks that worked a treat

[Djigorifico]

Guys let's be patient. The most recent rumor is that PR1.2 comes monday. Maybe FB made changes for that version already. The best that we can do is wait. It should get fixed really soon because this is one of the reasons a lot of people bought this phone.

[gabby131]

i installed hideuseragent from devel, i open it from settings and click "user agent", on default, it says "maemo browser", i changed that and put opera (or any other browser) noe when i click the fb widget, goes to the full site

[santiago]

Guys let's be patient. The most recent rumor is that PR1.2 comes monday. Maybe FB made changes for that version already. The best that we can do is wait. It should get fixed really soon because this is one of the reasons a lot of people bought this phone.
pr1.2 is coming by the 2 march...

[jae-v]

This is BS, very upset with this crap

[jaysire]

or, as a temporary work around, just scroll right down to the bottom, and choose whether you want to go to the touch site or the full site, and I have written to Facebook regarding this, although I'm not actually expecting them to notice it anyways!

Except there is no "full site" link at the bottom. You have to go to the touch site first and THEN there is a full site link. But faking the user agent works well for me, so problem solved.

[Naughty]

"vote" this problem on facebook and we might get faster fix!
Damn failbook....

http://www.facebook.com/help/?question=548361

[flipsogood]

this is the most annoying thing ever... i think if you pay all this money for a high powered phone you should get to use the power not see mobile sites like any cheap phone.. i want the full site to work on my n900 again...:mad:

[sil]

thanks for solution with hide user agent, but i think facebook should fix this, so that i don't have to hide my user agent ... maybe if they can create an option to choose settings for mobiles for example?

[fergusso]

We are totally abandoned by NOkia, good thing there are good developers here doing hacks and solution for free.

[xomm]

We are totally abandoned by NOkia, good thing there are good developers here doing hacks and solution for free.

It's not Nokia's fault, we know that. It wasn't happening before, but now it is. And there was no firmware update in between the two instances. (Yeah, there was LPR1.2, but most of us sane people are still using the official PR1.1, or in rare cases, PR1.0)

Like "Naughty" said, comment on the help topic, and it should gain enough attention: http://www.facebook.com/help/?question=548361

[cjsegninir]

the solution is to bookmark it again as http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w
It works for me :)

[telecomgeek79]

i have my user agent set as "Firefox". It works for me.
oh...and it's NOT Nokia's fault! it's fbook's fault...
p.s. do people complain about micro$oft so much?

[Bondage Monkey]

before when i had fb bookmarked, it was the full site. now its automatically going to mobile no matter what i do. whats going on?

[timothay]

i don't like it either.
does it have to do with the mozilla runtime update (which then of course must apply for microB as well)?
hopefully there's a way to undo this...

[ZogG]

wrong forum, you should ask facebook. also thee was same thread only yesterday.

[dgustavson]

You can; put your stylus (or finger) on the bookmark and hold it there for a second. A context menu pops up, with "Edit" as one of the choices.

[HellFlyer]

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=670147&postcount=12

[xomm]

Please search the forums before posting.

[F2thaK]

please merge this thread with

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=670111#post670111

[dgustavson]

Change the URL might not fix the problem, as facebook can still track you down by user agent, and even the http://www.facebook.com/home.php will recognize you eventually.

The solution to the problem(once and for all) is to change the user agent of your MicroB.

Procedure to change user agent:
1) In the address bar of MicroB, type about:config
2) you'll be prompted a warning of warrant void something, do not proceed if you're afraid
3) in the filter, type user
4) you can find "general.useragent.vendor" at the bottom, select it and press enter
5) change the user agent in the dialog box to something else like "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)" (without quotes)

Now browse ANY site without having to worry about switching to mobile page.

Hope this help.

This totally worked. No matter what Facebook page I navigate to, it still holds firm with the standard FB layout. Thank you!

P.S.--This shouldn't have been necessary. To route the N900 to a dumbed-down mobile format page is ludicrous; N900/MicroB can handle rich multimedia pages easily with power to spare.

[salah99]

we need a facebook application now!!

[Nitchers]

Change the URL might not fix the problem, as facebook can still track you down by user agent, and even the http://www.facebook.com/home.php will recognize you eventually.

The solution to the problem(once and for all) is to change the user agent of your MicroB.

Procedure to change user agent:
1) In the address bar of MicroB, type about:config
2) you'll be prompted a warning of warrant void something, do not proceed if you're afraid
3) in the filter, type user
4) you can find "general.useragent.vendor" at the bottom, select it and press enter
5) change the user agent in the dialog box to something else like "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)" (without quotes)

Now browse ANY site without having to worry about switching to mobile page.

Hope this help.

Tried this method 3 times but it keeps reverting back.

[9000]

Tried this method 3 times but it keeps reverting back.

This solution doesn't work with some people who happen to have background process that requires microB running, because it'll keep reload prefs.js that negate your change.

You may follow the second solution I post on #40 (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=670294&postcount=40). So far everybody can get it work with this solution.

Hope this help.

[chimaera]

I just submitted to Facebook a request that they stop redirecting to the mobile version of the site by default.

You can submit your own requests of similar nature at the following url:
http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=mobile_bug
I just did this, everyone else should too.

(though I have no idea what "phone type" means? Smartphone? Touch?)

[9000]

"vote" this problem on facebook and we might get faster fix!
Damn failbook....

http://www.facebook.com/help/?question=548361

So far I got three accounts banned for complaining (with different reasons). I'm not kidding. They don't give a dime of our complains. They pay consultants to give them suggestions to improve and that's they only channel they really take action for.

You're welcome to raise your complain to suppport@facebook.com directly. Mind you, you expect to deal with most redneck ego-bursting rude people you've ever met in your entire life. (and if you value your prime account get a fake one to complain) ^^

[deziredd]

there is also a touch phone version:

http://touch.facebook.com/#home.php


---- Fix Found! ----

Change your bookmark to:
http://facebook.com/home.php

if you don't put the actual home.php bit in, it reverts to m.facebook.com. Worked 3 times in a row now

[debernardis]

They pay consultants to give them suggestions to improve and that's they only channel they really take action for.


<paranoid-mode>
Maybe Apple convinced them to turn us to the limited mobile site to reduce the competitive advantage Maemo has with its full-fledged browser!
</paranoid-mode>

[Livinmalife]

When I now use the full version the "most recent" button no longer works... Anyone else getting this issue or know how to fix??
I've not changed my useragent but dont fancy doing that!

[ado]

had the same problem since yesterday, and it p... me off. even when u are in the original facebook mode and u press f.ex news, it kicks u to the mobile page. anoying

[9000]

<paranoid-mode>
Maybe Apple convinced them to turn us to the limited mobile site to reduce the competitive advantage Maemo has with its full-fledged browser!
</paranoid-mode>

N900 might be just too small for them to pick on. I've a feeling that they plan to kick everything with user-agent they don't recognize to mobile version.

[jaysire]

When I now use the full version the "most recent" button no longer works... Anyone else getting this issue or know how to fix??
I've not changed my useragent but dont fancy doing that!

I had the same problem. unfortunately I have no fix. Just do the useragent tweak. That worked for me.

[juise-]

N900 might be just too small for them to pick on. I've a feeling that they plan to kick everything with user-agent they don't recognize to mobile version.

You are right. I'm using Konqueror as my web browser on my desktop, and FB offers me the mobile version now.

If you ever read a tutorial on web programming, and it says "don't do decisions based on what the user's browser says it is", here's the reason why.

[xomm]

N900 might be just too small for them to pick on. I've a feeling that they plan to kick everything with user-agent they don't recognize to mobile version.

-.-

But that means they recognize the N8x0, but not the N900?

(Surely there's some other reason.)

There are only differences in the two User Agent strings is:

N8x0:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20080828 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.3.7 RX-34+RX44+RX48_DIABLO_5.2010.16.1

N900:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20091127 Firefox/3.5 Maemo Browser 1.5.6 RX-51 N900

1. Different version of the processor
2. I actually don't know this one. Hardware revision?
3. Gecko engine version
4. Firefox 3.0 vs. 3.5
5. Tablet browser vs. Maemo Browser
6. N800, N810, N810 WME, with Diablo vs. N900 with no stated OS.

Further testing shows that the part after Firefox/3.5, and before RX-51 N900 is causing the problem.

"Maemo Browser 1.5.6" redirects, but "Tablet browser 0.3.7" doesn't.

Removing "Maemo Browser 1.5.6" altogether, leaving Firefox/3.5 RX-51 N900, also does not redirect.

So it does seem to be a case of throw away what you don't know... :(

[sjgadsby]

The thread "why does facebook go automatically to the mobile site now?" with six posts has been merged into this thread.

[poka64]

The only thing that works for me is to change the user agent, is there any downside to this except for the fact that I can't use the OVI-store before I reset the user agent in MicroB?

[9000]

-.-

But that means they recognize the N8x0, but not the N900?

(Surely there's some other reason.)

There are only differences in the two User Agent strings is:

N8x0:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20080828 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.3.7 RX-34+RX44+RX48_DIABLO_5.2010.16.1

N900:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20091127 Firefox/3.5 Maemo Browser 1.5.6 RX-51 N900

1. Different version of the processor
2. I actually don't know this one. Hardware revision?
3. Gecko engine version
4. Firefox 3.0 vs. 3.5
5. Tablet browser vs. Maemo Browser
6. N800, N810, N810 WME, with Diablo vs. N900 with no stated OS.

Thanks for the information.

Tell you what, you inspired me to test a hypothesis: change the word 'Maemo' to 'Tablet', i.e.

Change the original User Agent from:
Firefox/3.5 Maemo Browser 1.7.4.8 RX-51 N900

To:
Firefox/3.5 Tablet Browser 1.7.4.8 RX-51 N900

Then type 'facebook.com' in MicroB and press ENTER.

Yeah! Full version of facebook!

Change back to Maemo:

Mobile version.....OoOPs.

Through a little test we can confirm that Facebook recognizes the word 'Tablet' in the User Agent!

[9000]

The only thing that works for me is to change the user agent, is there any downside to this except for the fact that I can't use the OVI-store before I reset the user agent in MicroB?

Go to Settings and then Hide User Agent, click 'Remove'. You should find the store you love now. ^^

[9000]

I think you just did the inverse. You showed that it recognizes the word Maemo and sends you to the mobile version.

The full site is the default so hence if I´d write gobbeldigook, or other similar made up words, instead of Maemo or Tablet, I´d also get the full site.

True it is, I removed the word 'Tablet' or 'Maemo' before the 'browser', facebook return full version as well.

However, it's even worse if facebook picked on the word 'Maemo'.

What has maemo community done that makes facebook discriminating the word 'maemo'? I wonder... :)

BTW, thank you for your reply. I just want to find a User Agent that can work with facebook and OVI store, but....

[xomm]

I think you just did the inverse. You showed that it recognizes the word Maemo and sends you to the mobile version.

The full site is the default so hence if I´d write gobbeldigook, or other similar made up words, instead of Maemo or Tablet, I´d also get the full site.

So... would that mean the word "Maemo" triggers a redirect to Mobile? If so, then yes, it is a change on Facebook's side.

[poka64]

Go to Settings and then Hide User Agent, click 'Remove'. You should find the store you love now. ^^

yeah, I know how to reset the useragent :)

[btyers]

Up until recently I was using the lite.facebook.com site which worked very well with my n900, on whatever browser I used. I think they have removed that URL.

Now I am also being directed to the mobile version. Based on the User-Agent I guess..

pity.

[xomm]

Now that we know the cause, and how to circumvent it, now the issue falls on how to get Facebook's attention, and how to get them to change it.

Once we get their attention, it shouldn't take much persuasion, if they have any common sense...

I'm assuming those "Petition for [insert new feature here]" groups don't work, right?

And help threads only accommodate up to 12 (I believe) responses.

And... to be honest, I don't think we have enough people to gain attention via the Suggestions box...

So, how? List your ideas.

[vmajor]

I also submitted a bug report to FB.

V.

[JohnMcL7]

we need a facebook application now!!

No we don't, the N900 had no problems rendering the normal Facebook site and that just needs to be restored - I much prefer not having to rely on an app when the phone doesn't need it.

I've submitted a bug on FB so that hopefully they'll take notice if enough people kick up a fuss, it should be a reasonably simple fix.

John

[xomm]

I also submitted a bug report to FB.

V.

Do you mean the Suggestions Box (http://www.facebook.com/#!/help/contact.php?show_form=ui_mobile)?

Or are bug reports located elsewhere?

[mr_bridger]

so for now, whats the best way round this? do i need to install hide user agent? od do it in about:config? or what...

i understand ovi wont work if i do.

[9000]

I'd recommend install hide user agent (second solution #40 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=670294&postcount=40) over changing about:config because the latter doesn't seem to work for everybody.

[Limo]

so here is the problem...facebook used to open like we open it on the computer but then lately it started to open like any other mobile opening facebook not the full site but the mobile view and it won't return to its normal state which is the normal view (Full site)

i uninstalled the facebook widget and application and reinstall it again but no use!

So any ideas to return it back to its normal state?

Thank you :)

[xomm]

so for now, whats the best way round this? do i need to install hide user agent? od do it in about:config? or what...

i understand ovi wont work if i do.

I think the easiest way right now is to use HideUserAgent, with this in your "custom" string:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv7l; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20091127 Firefox/3.5 RX-51 N900

Leave the setting on "Customized," and when you need to use the Nokia site, just go back over to settings and click remove. (Make sure to dismiss the banner that comes up; that's when it actually refreshes.)

To get back to the modified string, just press set.

It'd be nice to have a widget, but I don't think this method is that much of a pain to do anyways.

EDIT: You can put whatever you want in between Mozilla/3.5, and RX-51, like "Tablet Browser," but just don't put the word "Maemo," or other mobile keyword in it, or it'll stick you to the Mobile page.

[sepehrsfmech]

i got the link : http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w

[poka64]

i got the link : http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w

that doesn't work, sure, you can login to the full site but the thing is that you will notice that facebook tries to change to the mobile version after a while.

user agent change is the only thing that works

[poka64]

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53311

[sepehrsfmech]

u have to login and press the do not forget password on fb, and stay online

[xomm]

i got the link : http://www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w

Sorry. The mountain has already been claimed. We're working on the Ice now.

[resplendent2209]

I just replaced the "m." with "www." and added that bookmark to the Home screen. Everything is perfect till now.

[jreznik]

It's really annoying but I really like the Touch interface set up by User Agent control panel module!

[teh]

Has anyone else had this...

I could access the full Facebook website the other day but today it seems they've changed something that forces me to use the basic mobile site.

They are detecting my device as an N900 becuase I am getting "Download a Facebook bookmark for your N900"

The obvious solution is change my user agent but I want to know if this is deliberate?

[vaibhavsharma]

There is no need to change the user agent. Just bookmark http://facebook.com/home.php and use this to get to the full version.

If you have issues, there is a pretty long thread on this subject alone.

Cheers!

[teh]

There is no need to change the user agent. Just bookmark http://facebook.com/home.php and use this to get to the full version.

If you have issues, there is a pretty long thread on this subject alone.

Cheers!

thanks, but that kinda makes the pre installed bookmark by nokia pointless now i suppose

[vaibhavsharma]

Well some people prefer the mobile version as well, so its down to preference I guess.

[ossipena]

thanks, but that kinda makes the pre installed bookmark by nokia pointless now i suppose
blame facebook, suckerberg decided that www.facebook.com opened with N900 should redirect to m.facebook.com for some reason

(already wrote similar comment to original thread....)

[sjgadsby]

The thread "Facebook forcing MicroB to basic mobile site?" with five posts has been merged into this thread.

[leetut]

There is no need to change the user agent. Just bookmark http://facebook.com/home.php and use this to get to the full version.


doing that just bookmarks a blank white page with no address for me?
tried lots of times with the same result
in bookmarks the address is 'about:blank'
and even if it was working its the widget i use to open the page not bookmarks

i just remove the 'm.' from the address and reload the page,

[Livinmalife]

Is anyone else having trouble saving the below as a bookmark?

http://facebook.com/home.php

Everytime I reboot it deletes the bookmark... It also doesnt show on my desktop... Just a dead link!!!

[Livinmalife]

doing that just bookmarks a blank white page with no address for me?
tried lots of times with the same result
in bookmarks the address is 'about:blank'
and even if it was working its the widget i use to open the page not bookmarks

i just remove the 'm.' from the address and reload the page,

Its a bag of shite mate... having the same issue!

[orcocan]

same problem!!! the bookmark disappears, i thought there was something wrong with my browser... whats happening!

[teh]

This problem has also affected Win Mo phones as well. My mum has a Tosh TG01 and used to use full site.

[adam123]

bit of a newby question but for the past few days when i click my facebook shortcut on my desktop it loads the mobile version? it used to load the full version, ive tried different internet connections but that has made no difference? also does this with youtube, thanks in advance

[baron von bubba]

dude. SEARCH!!!!!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=670201#post670201

this thread has been merged so ignore this!!

[sjgadsby]

But that means they recognize the N8x0, but not the N900?

It's possible, as Facebook did once set up a special exception in their code for the Maemo Browser on Internet Tablets.

Back in 2008, Facebook redirected everything with a Nokia useragent from www.facebook.com to the Facebook WAP site. (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25552) The Maemo Browser knew nothing of WAP then, just as now, so we went through the same "change your useragent", "complain to Facebook", and "the iPhone site still works" posts we're seeing in this thread.

Back then, complaining worked. It will be interesting to compare Facebook's responsiveness between "completely inaccessible to a small number of users" then and "inconvenient for a larger number of users" today.

Is anyone else having trouble saving the below as a bookmark?

http://facebook.com/home.php

Everytime I reboot it deletes the bookmark...

That's bug 6269, "Can't reuse the name of a bookmark that has been deleted" (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6269), which is fixed in PR1.2.

For now, name your new Facebook bookmark something more than just "Facebook".

[adam123]

sorry! i usually ***** and moan for that please delete

[sjgadsby]

The thread "Facebook always loads in mobile version???" with two three posts has been merged into this thread.

[Livinmalife]

Cheers sjgadsby.

Works a charm!

[CYPHERC]

it SUX!!!!!! it was better 2 have the full site than any other app... well anyway we can go but now it takes more time and some clicking

[Waynder]

sience last night...

everytime i go to www.facebook.com i get redirected to m.facebook.com... and i hate that m site... cant use chat n stuff... i like the full version of it...


only way to go to full site now is to scrool down on m.facebook.com... select TOUCH version.. then scrool down again.. and there select FULL SITE...

then i tried to add to favourites that full site... but again i get redirected to m...


wtf?

[raverpol]

same here :(

[pwannell]

//SEARCH is your friend

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53311

[sjgadsby]

The thread "m.facebook.com redirection" with two three posts has been merged into this thread.

[asharbh]

i had this problem about a month back after i installed facebrick. so i uninstalled facebrick and the problem was gone. but now it has started again and i dont know the cause this time.

[allz]

Okay, here's the problem

I got used to www.facebook.com on n900 as it is on the PC.

However, all of the sudden, facebook started to notice the machine called n900, so they keep redirecting me to 'm.facebook.com' (for moblie - looked weird) even though i typed www.facebook.com.

Anyone has any suggestion for me to get back to what i like, facebook.com?

Thx

[resplendent2209]

Search the forums. The solution is there.

[sjgadsby]

The thread "Facebook Troubleshoot" with two posts has been merged into this thread.

[felbutss]

please merge wirh other facebook thread.

[sjgadsby]

The thread "How to stop N900 to redirect me to 'm.facebook.com?'" with three posts has been merged into this thread.

please merge wirh other facebook thread.

T'would make more sense to issue such a request via "Report This". By the time I see your post in the duplicate thread, well, obviously, I've already found the duplicate thread on my own.

[Abemelek]

beaware that changeing the user agent will also make ovi store to stop working

[9000]

beaware that changeing the user agent will also make ovi store to stop working

Please refer to #94 (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=671586&postcount=94)

[zombiegavins]

Here is the procedures to change User Agent of MicroB:

1) (As root) apt-get install hideuseragent
2) Go to Setting, find Hide User Agent
3) Click User Agent
4) Enter: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)
5) Press Set (See second screenshot)

Now you can browse the http://www.facebook.com full version.

this worked perfectly and it's a blessing, i hate the mobile facebook site and not having to look at stripped down mobile sites was half the reason i got this phone in the first place

[Keir]

cool fix thanks.

[ZackMorris]

So using the bookmark solution doesn't work that great, click on anyones pic, or goto someones page and click on the facebook link on the top left corner and you will notice that it just reloads the same page. Even with accessing the full site thru the touch/full version option eventually leads to issues, the only thing that works is the useragent solution. Ovi not working slight drawback, big drawback once the qt apps finally rock ovi with the new pr.

Funny that tear works great on my N810 with fb still, why is that?

Feeling really dumb in my huff and puff, and I misspelled version in the title of this thread. Final thoughts use the useragent fix, it is easy and works well, and bother fb to fix it, we all know there is zero logical reason for them to re-direct for the MicroB browser the way they are.

[Zigmat]

Just discovered this yersterday and it's really annoying! But the work around "www.facebook.com/home.php" works for me.

[kevinm2k]

Not only does the ovi store stop working, but iplayer completely stopped working...

Not like it worked anyway (sound but no video) but when I changed user agent, I didn't even get sound.

[Pigro]

I am on Voda UK (but via CPW). I have agent set to mozilla/5.0 (windows, u; windows nt 6.1; en-us). This keeps facebook happy and I can confirm that I can use the iPlayer workaround (pop-out full screen player) without problems - checked this yesterday after settign the agent; smooth video & perfect sound.

[toxaris]

A page to check BrowserID.
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_id.shtml

[Fraidoon]

Is anyone else having trouble saving the below as a bookmark?

http://facebook.com/home.php

Everytime I reboot it deletes the bookmark... It also doesnt show on my desktop... Just a dead link!!!
same **** is happening to me. i add facebook as bookmark and then i noticed that it was gone. wtf!!!!

[sjgadsby]

Best solution...

Or just name the new Facebook bookmark something a bit longer than just "Facebook" as previously mentioned in this thread.

[mr_bridger]

ok, so i can change the browser name so it gives me the full site, but the in window chat dont work ??

on the left it usually shows whos online, now it just says 'go online' and when i click this it openes a new window and says cant connect.

any thoughts as to what to set for my browser id??

using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) at the mo.

[stobbsc]

I actually get this problem with all my google pages now too, so calendar, contacts, gmail, etc.
It's fre_king annoying

[stobbsc]

could someone who is a good working knowledge of creating web pages that do browser detection, give us a description or a pointer in the right direction of why changing the browser agent works and , how and why websites do this?
Thanks it's more just for me to learn and explain to others ;-) don't worry I have googled it and am ready up, but wanted to get a first hand account of all of this :-)

Thanks in advance

[9000]

ok, so i can change the browser name so it gives me the full site, but the in window chat dont work ??

on the left it usually shows whos online, now it just says 'go online' and when i click this it openes a new window and says cant connect.

any thoughts as to what to set for my browser id??

using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) at the mo.

Santiago at #55 (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=670461&postcount=55) has posted a user agent that makes chat work again:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv6l; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.1.16 RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2

EDIT: In view of this, I've changed the recommended user agent in step 4 of #40 to Santiago's suggestion accordingly: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=670294&postcount=40

[michalurban]

yeah, i love how they can recognise "you're on an N900" but they think we want/need that shyte interface?!

i HATE fb!!

Yeah, FB SUX!!!

[jai jun young]

thanks for the help everyone ;)

[sil]

even without the hide user agent app i am not being rerouted anymore ... anybody else?

is this caused by the new firmware PR1.2? (i noticed after flashing, when my hide user agent was set back to default ... so i can't say for sure if facebook changed things before)
Or did Facebook change something?
Maybe somebody who has not flashed with the new firmware will try this?

[DJRedline]

Seems to be reverted back to full facebook on PR1.2

[sjgadsby]

Seems to be reverted back to full facebook on PR1.2

No, Facebook fixed it on their end. I've not upgraded to PR1.2, and I'm no longer redirected either.

[sil]

wow ... facebook did actually fix something? *speechless* ;o)

[Memph1s]

well they half fixed it. doesnt redirect anymore, but when i try to scroll through contacts on chat it scrolls the page instead

is this facebook or me that has thed problem?

[mukks]

its back to normal. facebook heard you :)

[asharbh]

i updated to pr 1.2 but it was still redirecting to facebook mobile. then i removed the hide user agent and the problem was fixed.

[geobueck]

after installing "hideuseragent" ALL webpages work for me... BUT.... youtube-flash-videos dont run smotthly anymore... they only run correctly when i uninstall hideuseragent again...

why is that so??? can someone help...??!!

[christexaport]

It works fine for me until I hit the Facebook home logo in the upper left.

[robin92]

It works fine for me until I hit the Facebook home logo in the upper left.


not for me :)