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cmsjkung
2010-06-30, 15:29
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
wait for it ...................
kevinm2k
2010-06-30, 15:37
Dont' let the door hit you on the way out *waves*
sjgadsby
2010-06-30, 15:38
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device.
Sorry it didn't work out, and I hope you find an Android device that suits you better.
Were you intending this as a "for sale" or "for trade" posting? If so, please clarify your initial post, and I can move this thread to the Buy & Sell forum for you.
I'm picking my spot in the front row...
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device.
I would offer you 50 for your old, used N900. Please send me a PM with your contact data. :)
I went to the HTC EVO 4G with the same thought as you. I am thinking about coming back to Maemo. The grass is a lot greener on this side.
Will make a thread soon.
kojacker
2010-06-30, 15:50
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device.
I can understand where you're coming from. Quite a few people have found themselves in the same position, it's no fun being stuck with a handset you're just not enjoying using. The question is what you do about it. If you can afford to switch handset or can get released from your mobile contract then it's easy - you go get the Android handset you like best. If you can't afford to do so or have too long to run on your contract then you need to make the best of a bad situation and learn to live with your n900 :rolleyes:
I bought a cheap phone on my holidays, and paid £20 for it. It was meant to be a throw-away device but it's now my main phone and I carry it everywhere along with my n900. I use the n900 for web surfing, checking emails, and occasional bit of programming. Similarly for the camera or other software you might have to find a cheap alternative or just get used to it. It's not all that bad :p
I'm picking my spot in the front row...
Already there, with a large Coke and sum Pick n Mix as well
ste-phan
2010-06-30, 15:51
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Whatever reason you can find to spend your money is good isn't it..
But maybe you may consider concentrating on your interest for the noise free night photography?
Today I do not recommend any mobile phone for that purpose.
Luckily, as a new world will open: reflex Camera's and lenses are excelent objects of desire and brand vs brand discussions. :p
But maybe you may consider concentrating on your interest for the noise free night photography?
Today I do not recommend any mobile phone for that purpose.
Yep. I would not recommend ANY pocket camera either. Maybe Olympus Pen or (maybe legendary Fuji 31d) similiar if someone thinks it΄s pocket size camera :)
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device.
Thanks for letting us know. We here at maemo.org just last night were discussing your status, and were wondering if you would give up n900 for Android. And now we can finally know, which as you might expect comes as a great relief to us all.
Enjoy Android.
cmsjkung
2010-06-30, 16:03
If Nokia can fix the problems mentioned in first post, I can say more people will come to use N900.
Are you some kind of bot?
.edit
Guess what?
You listed those points already in first post!
Probably a spamdroid sent over from the Android forums...
cmsjkung
2010-06-30, 16:10
I am just a N900 user, not from android forums.... don't you think N900 got a lot of things need to improve but Nokia seem not really care about it as they just focus on next MeeGo device and let N900 behind....
If Nokia can fix the following problem, I can say more people will come to use N900.
Again, thank you for posting your ideas here at maemo.org. We will ring up Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo and pass along your suggestions right away. Operators are standing by.
HINT: This is Maemo.ORG Do you see the word "Nokia" anywhere in there? How about ".com"? No? So, then, this would be the place where YOU share YOUR NEAT hacks, settings, app finds, things to do with the n900.
You can complain to Nokia on a Nokia forum.
Of course i think that it has lots of stuff to improve and Nokia has work to do.
Seems like they are pretty much fully concentrating to Meego. Some bugs seems to be fixed on next update if you follow bugzilla, but it΄s pretty slow paced.
If you are not happy then try to find new love or wait and upgrade to upcoming meego and start experimenting this multimedia device.
I would offer you 50 for your old, used N900. Please send me a PM with your contact data. :)
I bid 55 !
kojacker
2010-06-30, 16:21
I am just a N900 user, not from android forums.... don't you think N900 got a lot of things need to improve but Nokia seem not really care about it as they just focus on next MeeGo device and let N900 behind....
cmsjkung, Im afraid that topic has been done to death on this forum. If you search around you'll see the same feelings have been expressed again and again. The only question left now is what you're going to do about it in your situation, and only you can decide that.
I would advise not posting any more about it on this thread, unfortunately all you are doing is drawing the forum smartasses here like a magnet - it's a race to see who can tag "worst thread ever". You most likely won't get a civil conversation around your points, but you can read what others have dicussed in previous threads if it helps.
yeah n900 sucks.
*goes to use n900 to play angry birds and zen bound*
I'm not begging you to stay in this relationship but let me tell you that you've missed a number of important aspects that people usually overlook on this device.
I almost gave up on it too. I canceled my unlimited 3G data and call and text from my provider because I didn't find the N900 useful since last month.
a week ago though, I didn't care much about my n900 to try to overclock it. (yes, many dangers. i didnt care so i tried it)
it doubled the speed and responsiveness of the phone and web browser. touchscreen swipes, transitions, app loading, scrolling, and overall speed DOUBLED maybe even TRIPLED.
Emulators run some/many games 100% now as well, especially GBA and SNES games. Never tried PSX games yet though.
Battery life hasn't decreased but Im sure the CPU wont last for a year or 2. (i dont care because by then i would have bought a new phone)
Overclocking is dangerous if you don't know what you're doing but seeing that the n900 has unlockable sections within it, makes it really a computer with a phone. I'm liking it again. :)
Its not recommended to overclock your n900 but instead of waiting for updates that make the OS 1.004x faster (which is nothing), I overclocked it. Now its frequency is the same as the Snapdragon. lol
Yes it has a very small selection of apps and games but many of those are very useful. Zen bound, DrNokSnes, ConnectNow, HoopsFrenzy, Angry Birds, MyPaint, PenPen, readers, and many more!
Again, thank you for posting your ideas here at maemo.org. We will ring up Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo and pass along your suggestions right away. Operators are standing by.
HINT: This is Maemo.ORG Do you see the word "Nokia" anywhere in there? How about ".com"? No? So, then, this would be the place where YOU share YOUR NEAT hacks, settings, app finds, things to do with the n900.
You can complain to Nokia on a Nokia forum.
You've apparently not read the following:
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTANCE.
This Site is hosted as a public service by Nokia Corporation, its subsidiaries or affiliates, having its principal office at Keilalahdentie 2-4, P.O. Box 226, FIN-00045 Nokia Group, Finland (business identity code in Finland 0112038-9) ("Nokia"). With respect to general inquiries concerning this Site please refer to the FAQ or send your queries to webhost@maemo.org
I'm not validating the original post, by no means; however this site is connected to Nokia. Just not in a customer service type of capacity.
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device.
May I refer you to this review by two Droid and iPhone fans comparing Maemo after Pr 1.2 to the Droid and iPhone. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57435
I raise Texrat's offer by 5 to 60.
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate it.
BTW: I want to give up watching porn. Just thought you might be interested to know.
cmsjkung
2010-06-30, 16:38
yeah n900 sucks.
*goes to use n900 to play angry birds and zen bound*
I'm not begging you to stay in this relationship but let me tell you that you've missed a number of important aspects that people usually overlook on this device.
I almost gave up on it too. I canceled my unlimited 3G data and call and text from my provider because I didn't find the N900 useful since last month.
a week ago though, I didn't care much about my n900 to try to overclock it. (yes, many dangers. i didnt care so i tried it)
it doubled the speed and responsiveness of the phone and web browser. touchscreen swipes, transitions, app loading, scrolling, and overall speed DOUBLED maybe even TRIPLED.
Emulators run some/many games 100% now as well, especially GBA and SNES games. Never tried PSX games yet though.
Battery life hasn't decreased but Im sure the CPU wont last for a year or 2. (i dont care because by then i would have bought a new phone)
Overclocking is dangerous if you don't know what you're doing but seeing that the n900 has unlockable sections within it, makes it really a computer with a phone. I'm liking it again. :)
Its not recommended to overclock your n900 but instead of waiting for updates that make the OS 1.004x faster (which is nothing), I overclocked it. Now its frequency is the same as the Snapdragon. lol
Yes it has a very small selection of apps and games but many of those are very useful. Zen bound, DrNokSnes, ConnectNow, HoopsFrenzy, Angry Birds, MyPaint, PenPen, readers, and many more!
Thank you for your advice, I may have a go....
You've apparently not read the following:
Its a .org site. Public service. Non-profit. Not the official Nokia corporate site. I can read. I also understand what .org means.
Descalzo
2010-06-30, 16:53
Seriously, buddy, don't be hasty! Wait for NitDroid! You watch, djsteve and e-yes are going to get it working like a champ. It's fun to watch, and you'll save money
Myself, I'm thinking about overclocking, too. But I'm waiting around for it to get even simpler, and until I am more clear about its integration with nitdroid.
re nitdroid, I beleive steve etc are working on an auto-install process, whic will make android on N900 much more accessible to end users like myself who would struggle to see where we went wrong if install didnt work...So maybe android on N900 isnt unconceivable, cheaper than getting new phone if dont get on with maemo, I personally think N900 is one of the best phones I have owned.
Descalzo
2010-06-30, 17:00
That's exactly right, Luz. If you keep the N900 you have choice between OSes. But if you switch to, say, the Droid you're stuck with Android.
cmsjkung
2010-06-30, 17:00
re nitdroid, I beleive steve etc are working on an auto-install process, whic will make android on N900 much more accessible to end users like myself who would struggle to see where we went wrong if install didnt work...So maybe android on N900 isnt unconceivable, cheaper than getting new phone if dont get on with maemo, I personally think N900 is one of the best phones I have owned.
Good news... Thanks...
Though I have no idea how long u will have to wait for all issues to be iorned out, but they have made much progress in little time...
ill bid 70 GBP after scratching the metallic black screen surround whilst watching the world cup.
My mate has a desire. Looks great plays great but battery is about as useful as a frigid whore.
I raise Texrat's offer by 5 to 60.
So, I have to raise the price, too. I will bid now 80.
cmsjkung, have you left now conclusive? Can I buy your useless old N900? :)
mishmich
2010-07-01, 11:07
I'll raise it to £100 - including delivery
Mish
mishmich
2010-07-01, 11:08
I'll raise it to £100 - including delivery
Mish
No, tell you what, if give me £150, I'll see if my partner will let me take it in part-exchange on her e72. How about that?
If you're still thinking about giving up N900.. this may change your mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Tedri Mark
2010-07-01, 11:43
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Cool story bro
Intresting. I'm loving this device more and more. And a week ago I was complaining about the Flash 10.1, now.. I just don't think about it. I think about the advantages this phone has.
NITdroid, MeeGo.. Yes please. Just waiting a better release for both of them. In the meanwhile.. I'm just loving it this way.
No point what so ever but I'm bored at work.
I heard internet porn might be moving to html5
I just cannot be bothered thinking of something witty to say.
So it is my great pleasure to say....
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YoD4HBRJbjc/S5eyxBiO69I/AAAAAAAAaR0/M_Auo2PPqcg/s320/verne-troyer-mini-me-austin-powers-flipping-the-bird.jpg
nokia knows one thing and it's how to leave their clients behind after just a year of releasing N900 (by the way i was waiting for N900 and bought it when they released it) any way they now want to abandon it like that. they told us they will make the device more efficient and they will update its operating system and they will make it better i waited 4 to 5 months to see this happen, then they told us there will be a whole new operating system and i am still waiting and i know they won't release it for N900 (no one knows why?) any way i am tired of nokia and i won't wait for any thing from nokia. my message for nokia is NO MORE LIES IF YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING GOOD DON'T DO ANYTHING.
nokia knows one thing and it's how to leave their clients behind after just a year of releasing N900 (by the way i was waiting for N900 and bought it when they released it) any way they now want to abandon it like that. they told us they will make the device more efficient and they will update its operating system and they will make it better i waited 4 to 5 months to see this happen, then they told us there will be a whole new operating system and i am still waiting and i know they won't release it for N900 (no one knows why?) any way i am tired of nokia and i won't wait for any thing from nokia. my message for nokia is NO MORE LIES IF YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING GOOD DON'T DO ANYTHING.
Well said and it surprises me how some people here don't see how nokia is giving us the middle finger. Meego or what ever they decide to call it once it comes out better be more than IOS4 and Android or they (Nokia) is dead. Maybe then the die hard fans will rise up :)
Well said and it surprises me how some people here don't see how nokia is giving us the middle finger. Meego or what ever they decide to call it once it comes out better be more than IOS4 and Android or they (Nokia) is dead. Maybe then the die hard fans will rise up :)
What are you expecting from MeeGo that Maemo doesn't provide? I bought the N900 for what it could do at the time when I bought it, not for what might happen in the future. Maemo already does more than Android and iOS. If you can't see it then you must to be drinking a lot of marketing Coolaid from Google and Apple.
Future apps and games will be written in Qt so they would work on MeeGo, Maemo and Symbian devices like the N8. I don't see anyone dropping support for the N900 very soon.
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
What do you want from us now. Begone already.
Tbh you appear like a suicidal person, standing on the top of a building, yelling all the "unfortunate aspects" which led you to this decision, waiting for someone to hold you back. Which is bad luck in my case: I always yell them to stfu and jump.
"What are you expecting from MeeGo that Maemo doesn't provide?" well let's see first of all a good media player my media player sucks from the last time i updated my n900. then there is no good games for nokia i have installed a lot of games and they where all boring, mooooooooooooore programs there is tons of programs for android for free, you know i like maemo i really do but the problem is nokia company they want to benefit in every single way.
"What are you expecting from MeeGo that Maemo doesn't provide?" well let's see first of all a good media player my media player sucks from the last time i updated my n900. then there is no good games for nokia i have installed a lot of games and they where all boring, mooooooooooooore programs there is tons of programs for android for free, you know i like maemo i really do but the problem is nokia company they want to benefit in every single way.
1）I'm sure 80% of the subscribers here know how to get a better video and music player from the repositories
2) I'm sure you haven't tried DosBox, where you could play better games then any mobile phone could provide at raw speed (ok, compare to the PC during DOS era. XD). If you still have problem, gets a PSP
3) Last time I check, `apt-cache search \ | grep -v ^lib | wc -l` gives 4060 packages, they're all free, not shareware crippleware light version something. Exactly how many of them have you tried?
You're just complaining they don't give you things by default, then yes, N900 is not for you. In fact, no smartphone is designing for people like you.
Drop it off.
That's the most annoying part about TMO. Our beloved foul language which often hits the bull's eye is about to cause infraction points, but foul threads like this one are fully legitimate, instead facing instant lockdown.
One major advantage of apps on the n900 - no annoying advertising.
thanks actually no smart phones aren't for me that's why i changed my old device, there is a lot of programs i know but they are not different from each other or if they do they have no or low quality when i bought N900 (i love N900 and it is my favorite device) i was sure that there will be more programs and more games for it (by the way there is not much difference in programs compared to symbian) but now i am not sure any more and i hate that feeling. currently there are more than 30 application installed on my N900 they are not different as compared to my previous phone.
cmsjkung
2010-07-01, 15:39
If you're still thinking about giving up N900.. this may change your mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Thanks mate. I like this song.....
I decide to keep my N900 for 5 more months and let see what will happen.
If not much improvement provided after 5 months... then I will make another post to talk about it and give up my N900, and I will not buy any Nokia phone after N900, 5800, N95, N80, 9300, 7710, 8210
What are you expecting from MeeGo that Maemo doesn't provide?
Official support that lasts longer than a year? I hate to be a snarky bastard; but Maemo offers a lot of freedom true enough, but twice in a row, Maemo has been basically dumped before all bugfixes were in place.
If not much improvement provided after 5 months... then I will make another post to talk about it and give up my N900
Please, don't announce to create another threat like this!
Here are enought stuff like this... please consider to leave without announcement instead!
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
[...]
Okay, this is your opinion.
What makes you think that we care about it?
If you feel like it, just go and buy another device, but please don't bother us.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc276/782_Warbird/motivational%20pics/care-o-meter.jpg
garyc2010
2010-07-02, 21:25
I would offer you 50 for your old, used N900. Please send me a PM with your contact data. :)
is it even really worth that much ?????
most people are catching on fast how useless these "phones" really are
Im selling mine on ebay this weekend, and im praying It will sell at all
garyc2010
2010-07-02, 21:30
Okay, this is your opinion.
What makes you think that we care about it?
If you feel like it, just go and buy another device, but please don't bother us.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc276/782_Warbird/motivational%20pics/care-o-meter.jpg
"just go and buy another device, but please don't bother us."
great to see the community spirit is alive and well...............
well im afraid he has a right to post here, the maemo "Operating System" as it is called is a fking JOKE in EVERY aspect of the word
the n900 fanbois are the WORST ive ever experienced in my life, they are in UTTER denial. the n900 is a FAILURE but some on here (who most btw dont have a fking clue what even open source actually means) think that maemo is actually a USABLE OS PLATFORM......they think they know best...they dont really have a clue......look at me ma, im on top of the world....i can run conky on my phone......................ffs loosers
gabby131
2010-07-02, 21:33
@cmsjkung
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
there are devices that supports 10.1 before the n900 (i think)
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
hmmm....i have not encountered a non-playing video file in kmPlayer unless there is something wrong on the way i convert or download or transfer the video.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
normal to see, its not a game device
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
i agree, so that is why i have a separate camera
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
we cannot get anything
- Phone function is not good to use.
phone function? like what? i have small hands, that is my problem in phone functionality of the n900.
danramos
2010-07-02, 21:35
"just go and buy another device, but please don't bother us."
great to see the community spirit is alive and well...............
well im afraid he has a right to post here, the maemo "Operating System" as it is called is a fking JOKE in EVERY aspect of the word
the n900 fanbois are the WORST ive ever experienced in my life, they are in UTTER denial. the n900 is a FAILURE but some on here (who most btw dont have a fking clue what even open source actually means) think that maemo is actually a USABLE OS PLATFORM......they think they know best...they dont really have a clue......look at me ma, im on top of the world....i can run conky on my phone......................ffs loosers
Well, you have to admit that hearing the same message trumpeted so often by so many people, over and over again gets a little grating on the nerves.
Whoa there.. I almost started sounding like one of them legendary Nokia apologists! OK, I'll come back by adding: It probably means Nokia needs to read Maemo's forums. I know! CRAZY TALK.
"just go and buy another device, but please don't bother us."
great to see the community spirit is alive and well...............
The community doesn't need whiners.
well im afraid he has a right to post here, the maemo "Operating System" as it is called is a fking JOKE in EVERY aspect of the word
Thanks for the effort.
However, I don't agree with your opinion.
the n900 fanbois are the WORST ive ever experienced in my life
Ah, now I understand.
So, you dismiss the people who don't share your opinions as "fanboys".
If this is the case, it seems that it is impossible to have a civilised discussion with you, so I'll just move on.
is it even really worth that much ?????
most people are catching on fast how useless these "phones" really are
Im selling mine on ebay this weekend, and im praying It will sell at all
Why dont I have any friends like you and like http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=738542&postcount=1 , damn..
Gonna buzz my whole contact list to see if there is anyone who can call me a sibling :).
So, you dismiss the people who don't share your opinions as "fanboys".
The fanboy dismissing fanboys are the worst.
danramos
2010-07-02, 21:47
Why dont I have any friends like you and like http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=738542&postcount=1 , damn..
Gonna buzz my whole contact list to see if there is anyone who can call me a sibling :).
I dunno.. but I gave my sister my old N800 before I'd bought another one to replace it. (It was just missing the damaged kickstand and I really wanted it to be a whole perfect N800.)
Seems to me these things are quickly becoming hand-me-downs, eh?
I dunno.. but I gave my sister my old N800 before I'd bought another one to replace it. (It was just missing the damaged kickstand and I really wanted it to be a whole perfect N800.)
Seems to me these things are quickly becoming hand-me-downs, eh?
I hereby Stake First Claim to any community N900 hand-me-downs..
lordfury007
2010-07-02, 22:15
You know, I first got this phone yesterday and the first thing i thought was "This phone is more powerful than my first computer" (which was a 486 with 32Mb of RAM, and i think a 300Mb HDD)
and i'm not that old... i'm 25...
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
Lack of subtitles? Subtitles Support (http://symbianbriefs.blogspot.com/2010/01/subtitles-support.html) is out almost from official phone release! :rolleyes:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OAAEzje2SnU/S1jMksv2rQI/AAAAAAAAAWU/K-qEwBMib-w/s400/screenshot05.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OAAEzje2SnU/S1jMn_pC79I/AAAAAAAAAWc/rbebIoukO24/s400/screenshot08.png
Also there is Extra Decoders Support (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/decoders-support/) which contains additional audio and video decoders.
If you are to lazy to use search tool or ask people for info and help, just sell your N900 to someone who will know how to use this pocket netbook.
skalogre
2010-07-02, 23:23
Damn it. The bidding is already over 100? I always miss out on good deals for a second N900...
danramos
2010-07-02, 23:37
Kolos, a 9 for useful info, but ultimately a frowning 3 for nasty attitude. You couldn't just have presented the info and set it in front of the user so that they can just learn it? Why the attitude?
As said many times before, man I miss the old ITT days.
the first thing i thought was "This phone is more powerful than my first computer"
I am old. I can say that about my TOASTER. You know, the one that makes toast.
Damn kids and their newfangled computers.
Alex Atkin UK
2010-07-03, 00:12
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
It all depends what you were expecting of the software. Personally I would like a few more games but its far more important that it has full SSH, browsing and other Linux goodies, as those are what its intended for. For games, I will buy a Nintendo 3DS as NO smartphone/tablet plays games that well due to the lack of a good D-Pad and sufficient buttons.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
We still do not know for certain the N900 is not going to get it, only that Android got it first. If you are going to jump ship every time something new comes to a handset you do not currently own, you will be swapping handsets every month.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
Someone already mentioned that support is available.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
What makes you think Android will be any better? The speed is 99% down to the speed of the handset and all high-end handsets are between 600-1000Mhz Cortex A8, which of course the N900 can be over-clocked to 1Ghz easily and has a superior GPU to most handsets running at 1Ghz native (they use the extra CPU power to offset a poorer GPU).
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
Can't argue there, but again is there an Android handset that is any better? (I am genuinely asking)
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
Your point being? How exactly does that make the N900 any less usable now, today?
Also Meego is not being supported by Nokia only so far as iif you call their customer support they wont help you if you are using it, as the N900 was designed for Maemo. It doesn't really mean a whole lot in the great scheme of things, doesn't make it any less usable when its all done and released. My Windows laptop is not supported with Ubuntu installed on it, but it doesn't make it suddenly useless.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Personal opinion, its perfectly satisfactory for my purposes which is a super flexible pocket Linux PC that also happens to have phone and SMS functions so I do not have to carry a phone too.
cmsjkung
2010-07-03, 03:51
It all depends what you were expecting of the software. Personally I would like a few more games but its far more important that it has full SSH, browsing and other Linux goodies, as those are what its intended for. For games, I will buy a Nintendo 3DS as NO smartphone/tablet plays games that well due to the lack of a good D-Pad and sufficient buttons.
We still do not know for certain the N900 is not going to get it, only that Android got it first. If you are going to jump ship every time something new comes to a handset you do not currently own, you will be swapping handsets every month.
Someone already mentioned that support is available.
What makes you think Android will be any better? The speed is 99% down to the speed of the handset and all high-end handsets are between 600-1000Mhz Cortex A8, which of course the N900 can be over-clocked to 1Ghz easily and has a superior GPU to most handsets running at 1Ghz native (they use the extra CPU power to offset a poorer GPU).
Can't argue there, but again is there an Android handset that is any better? (I am genuinely asking)
Your point being? How exactly does that make the N900 any less usable now, today?
Also Meego is not being supported by Nokia only so far as iif you call their customer support they wont help you if you are using it, as the N900 was designed for Maemo. It doesn't really mean a whole lot in the great scheme of things, doesn't make it any less usable when its all done and released. My Windows laptop is not supported with Ubuntu installed on it, but it doesn't make it suddenly useless.
Personal opinion, its perfectly satisfactory for my purposes which is a super flexible pocket Linux PC that also happens to have phone and SMS functions so I do not have to carry a phone too.
Thank you for your advice.... you are a nice guy unlike some people do not like to hear negative opinions in this site (they need to grow up and don't live only in their dream)....
Flash Player
When you see the flash player demo video on N900, you may think it should be the first device to get it but not finally.
For Subtitle Support
Subtitle support application does not work for MOV file as you can not select different subtitle and audio files...
Camera
I can find may mobile phone got better picture quality than N900. Don't want to say the mobile phone names....
Phone Function
You will find lack of search/short cut alias function in contact, even the first release Meego got search/short cut alias function in contact.
techngro
2010-07-03, 04:07
Already there, with a large Coke and sum Pick n Mix as well
What the hell is a Pick n Mix? Is it like Chex Mix?
Please tell me...the suspense is KILLING ME!!!!!
Kolos, a 9 for useful info, but ultimately a frowning 3 for nasty attitude. You couldn't just have presented the info and set it in front of the user so that they can just learn it? Why the attitude?
As said many times before, man I miss the old ITT days.
Here in maemo.org forum there are a lot of people that they are wiling to help, but if somebody don't ask or look for answers, then answers for sure will not fall to them on their own from the sky.:rolleyes:
Flash Player
When you see the flash player demo video on N900, you may think it should be the first device to get it but not finally.
Yes, we are all pissed off about not having Flash 10.1, but who can tell that we will not get it eventually?! Nokia didn't make any official statement about getting or not getting it. Even if Nokia will not provide it, I have big faith in this community. If Motorola Droid (same CPU and GPU) is going to get Android Froyo, I believe that some people from here will know how to bring Flash 10.1 to N900.
For Subtitle Support
Subtitle support application does not work for MOV file as you can not select different subtitle and audio files...
Big majority of the people all over the globe are watching AVI (divx/xvid) videos on their PCs and TVs (divx/DVD players), and also this is possible on N900. So, majority N900 users are satisfied that can use torrent client on N900 to download AVI videos, then to find proper subtitles and play videos on N900 in the same way they are doing that on their PCs.
Also we can download AVI videos to PC with N900 as remote control (VNC viewer) and after video is downloaded to the PC, we can stream it or transfer it to N900 over home wi-fi (over the air) if we have enabled media sharing on our PCs. My iPhone friends are so jealous about that. ;)
Also N900 is going to get VLC Player (http://www.nokian900applications.com/vlc-player-for-nokia-n900/).
Camera
I can found may mobile phone got better picture quality than N900. Don't want to say the mobile phone names....
I have N95 and I can say that quality of N900 camera is similar. Also for N900 we have some additional tools like lfocus (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=554743#post554743), BlessN900 (http://www.nokian900applications.com/blessn900-for-nokia-n900/) and lens cover reminder (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52534).
Phone Function
You will found lack of search/short cut alias function in contact, even the first release Meego got search/short cut alias function in contact.
To search contacts you just need to be on phone's desktop (don't need to open phonebook) and start typing on hardware keyboard the first letters of your friend's name and you will find him/her. This is solution for landscape mode. For portrait mode (closed keyboard slide) you can open icon "Phone" where is a list of recent call. Than choose "Select contact" and you will get on the right side of contact list a letter groups "0-9", "ABC", "DEF" etc. So, let say, if you press on "ABC" once, you will get contacts that start on letter A, if you press second time on "ABC" you will get contacts that start on letter B etc.
Other solutions are to install MyContacts (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57162) or/and Horizontal-Call (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56533).
cmsjkung
2010-07-04, 04:11
Here in maemo.org forum there are a lot of people that they are wiling to help, but if somebody don't ask or look for answers, then answers for sure will not fall to them on their own from the sky.:rolleyes:
Yes, we are all pissed off about not having Flash 10.1, but who can tell that we will not get it eventually?! Nokia didn't make any official statement about getting or not getting it. Even if Nokia will not provide it, I have big faith in this community. If Motorola Droid (same CPU and GPU) is going to get Android Froyo, I believe that some people from here will know how to bring Flash 10.1 to N900.
Big majority of the people all over the globe are watching AVI (divx/xvid) videos on their PCs and TVs (divx/DVD players), and also this is possible on N900. So, majority N900 users are satisfied that can use torrent client on N900 to download AVI videos, then to find proper subtitles and play videos on N900 in the same way they are doing that on their PCs.
Also we can download AVI videos to PC with N900 as remote control (VNC viewer) and after video is downloaded to the PC, we can stream it or transfer it to N900 over home wi-fi (over the air) if we have enabled media sharing on our PCs. My iPhone friends are so jealous about that. ;)
Also N900 is going to get VLC Player (http://www.nokian900applications.com/vlc-player-for-nokia-n900/).
I have N95 and I can say that quality of N900 camera is similar. Also for N900 we have some additional tools like lfocus (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=554743#post554743), BlessN900 (http://www.nokian900applications.com/blessn900-for-nokia-n900/) and lens cover reminder (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52534).
To search contacts you just need to be on phone's desktop (don't need to open phonebook) and start typing on hardware keyboard the first letters of your friend's name and you will find him/her. This is solution for landscape mode. For portrait mode (closed keyboard slide) you can open icon "Phone" where is a list of recent call. Than choose "Select contact" and you will get on the right side of contact list a letter groups "0-9", "ABC", "DEF" etc. So, let say, if you press on "ABC" once, you will get contacts that start on letter A, if you press second time on "ABC" you will get contacts that start on letter B etc.
Other solutions are to install MyContacts (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57162) or/and Horizontal-Call (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56533).
Thank you very much.... your advice is very useful.....
danramos
2010-07-04, 09:12
Here in maemo.org forum there are a lot of people that they are wiling to help, but if somebody don't ask or look for answers, then answers for sure will not fall to them on their own from the sky.:rolleyes:
That is an irrelevant excuse to the point I'd made. The vitriol was unnecessary.
i got my iphone4 3 weeks back haven't touched my n900 since than and only use it for mp3 music in toilet. The number of apps on iphone is amazing, the navigation, os, everything is so smooth and silky. Plan on trading n900 out even though i have nitrdroid installed on it and o/cd it to 1Ghz.
i got my iphone4 3 weeks back haven't touched my n900 since than and only use it for mp3 music in toilet. The number of apps on iphone is amazing, the navigation, os, everything is so smooth and silky. Plan on trading n900 out even though i have nitrdroid installed on it and o/cd it to 1Ghz.
I think you should trade in your N900 mate.
My Girlfriend has an iPhone4 and thinks its absolutely awesome. She couldn't care less what is "under the hood", she just wants something that is easy to use and nice to look at. And i know countless others who are just the same.
Now admittedly i have only had my N900 for 2 months. It doesn't have the huge commercial app store, and/or support from nokia. But i have totally and utterly fallen in love with it.
I have been struggling to explain exactly why i do, but i do. I know system specs are thrown back and forth between phone lovers debating which is better. But i feel the real deciding factor is who you are. And it fits who i am.
If you are the kind of person who wants to know how and why something works. You're an N900'er
If you get as much satisfaction from finally figuring out a rogue line of code that has been crashing your app, as you do from actually using that app once complete. You're an N900'er.
If even though you hate the fact that official Nokia support is limited, it makes you feel like your device is viewed (despite its specs) as a sort of underdog, and you wanna make it kick *** just because it can. You're an N900'er.
If you don't get these sort of feelings from the N900 then the sooner you get rid of it, the sooner it can be reurbished and bought by someone who IS going to fall in love with it.
Best Regards
Stefan
@stefan,
It's not that I haven't given it a chance. Bought it back in Jan 2010. Loved it till sept when I bought iP4. I even made my boss buy an N900 back in April. But lets be honest the only thing keeping n900 alive has been teh community. I used to frequent this site to get any kind of info about new apps / games etc. Ovi store was a joke and dont ask about the MAPS. Pathetic atempt by nokia to test their loyal fans with an experimental phone. On the other hand, i'm overwhelmed with what's available for idevices. I managed to JB it after upgrading to 4.1. Everything is smooth from recording HD videos to using maps.
I will never buy a nokia phone, (had bought N96, N80, N70, 33xx and few more dont remember) again. My GF was interestd in Android after seeing nitrdroid on my N900 but after iP4, she wants that and she will get it later this year.
For the time being i'm using the 900 as an mp3 player and will wait if meego will be ported for it. If i find it useful i will keep it otherwise trade it with another iP4.
Why bother telling us all of this, no one cares, it's your device - sell it if you like. If you want to share an experience, that's okay, but know that lots of people here thinks the other way, it's maemo.org after all. So don't get insulted if someone is arrogant, posts like yours are common in past few months, lots of you complaining guys really have no idea why did you bought n900 at the first place. So if you still have doubts, sell it until you can regain even 50% of money invested in it, and go for something else...
Hi! since we are sharing... I am thinking of redecorating my living room any ideas?
NokTokDaddy
2010-10-14, 11:33
Hi! since we are sharing... I am thinking of redecorating my living room any ideas?
Paint it black...
I used to frequent this site to get any kind of info about new apps / games etc. Ovi store was a joke and dont ask about the MAPS. Pathetic atempt by nokia to test their loyal fans with an experimental phone. On the other hand, i'm overwhelmed with what's available for idevices. I managed to JB it after upgrading to 4.1. Everything is smooth from recording HD videos to using maps.
Hi Sak
This is precisely the point i was trying to make. The N900 is not for you.
From your reply i can see your main needs/wants are Apps, Games, Store, Maps etc.. And for that even the most diehard N900 fanboy would tell you IPhone and Android win. I was trying to help speed up the process so that someone who is gonna love having it can get a hold of it.
Have you seen the episode of friends where Phoebe gets told about the Xmas tree's wish (or goal or something)? She objects to trees being cut down i.e "killed" for xmas and gets told its their one wish in life to be a xmas tree.
Thats kind of how i see the N900. A little computer with real power, whose wish is to be used, tinkered with, hacked, modded and pushed to the extreme. With you it will never happen and i feel sad for the little guy.
The one thing i will say that strikes me as a little ironic with your posts.
Iphone = Ipod that makes calls.
Ipod = fancy Mp3 player (with added bells and whistles)
N900 = Linux Computer with phone bits added
Linux Computer = More computery type wizardry than you can shake a stick at.
Yet you use your Iphone as primary device and the N900 as an Mp3 player.
Anyway good luck with whatevver you do mate.
Stefan
nishkarsh
2010-10-14, 11:40
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Meego is here for N900.
there is subtitle support.
for camera try blessn900 (http://www.blessn900.com/)
game - all u need to play is angry birds.
subtitle support is there search for "subtitle" in extras repository.
"tweak flash plugin version" for flash 10.1
Hi Sak
This is precisely the point i was trying to make. The N900 is not for you.
From your reply i can see your main needs/wants are Apps, Games, Store, Maps etc.. And for that even the most diehard N900 fanboy would tell you IPhone and Android win. I was trying to help speed up the process so that someone who is gonna love having it can get a hold of it.
Have you seen the episode of friends where Phoebe gets told about the Xmas tree's wish (or goal or something)? She objects to trees being cut down i.e "killed" for xmas and gets told its their one wish in life to be a xmas tree.
Thats kind of how i see the N900. A little computer with real power, whose wish is to be used, tinkered with, hacked, modded and pushed to the extreme. With you it will never happen and i feel sad for the little guy.
The one thing i will say that strikes me as a little ironic with your posts.
Iphone = Ipod that makes calls.
Ipod = fancy Mp3 player (with added bells and whistles)
N900 = Linux Computer with phone bits added
Linux Computer = More computery type wizardry than you can shake a stick at.
Yet you use your Iphone as primary device and the N900 as an Mp3 player.
Anyway good luck with whatevver you do mate.
Stefan
Couldn't have said it better. OP can't handle the raw power given by the N900. Please, sell your poor N900 to someone that use it for better things than playing mp3, then move on with your iCrap.
nathaneous
2010-10-14, 11:45
I used to think i got screwed by Nokia after getting the N900.
Now i've learnt to be contempt and accept that its one of the best phones in the market. My girlfriend just upgraded to the Iphone4. Apart from the app store, the phone is a joke. I've played with android phones, they are good but not good enough for me.
If the N900 had a vibrant app store, then the phone would be amazing. I like the games and apps that apple and android have, besides that i'm not interested. The only thing that could make my N900 better is more commercial apps, but if it doesn't happen then i'll accept being niche.
Besides i like when people see my phone and think i'm carrying around a portable tv :D
RobbieThe1st
2010-10-14, 12:04
Well, with the amount of space and Mplayer, it practically is a TV. You just need to get your content from certain *ahem* drm-free sources.
Couldn't have said it better. OP can't handle the raw power given by the N900. Please, sell your poor N900 to someone that use it for better things than playing mp3, then move on with your iCrap.
I hate Apple more than anyone out there but think it is a bit silly the way the fanboys on this site say things lik iphone is crap and all that.
If it is doing so well it is because it actually offers something people want. We may have no interest on it but I don't think we can honestly say to ourselves that tens of millions are buying crap and at so much cost.
If we were honest with ourselves we would say it is a good device which has things the mass market is interested in (ease of use, tons of apps, works well). However, we are not interested in it because we don't want to be told what we can do with our device, we want to modify the device, we don't want to pay for ringtones when we already have the mp3, we want a keyboard, etc.
When we say iphone is crap all we are doing is:
1. Lying to ourselves; or
2. Showing that we are real fan boys who lack the ability to be objective
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/519/implied-facepalm.jpg
Most of the reasons... If I don't say all of em... Are BS
Well, with the amount of space and Mplayer, it practically is a TV. You just need to get your content from certain *ahem* drm-free sources.
Actually, with WorldTV99, it is a TV. What you describe sounds more like a portable media player.
Also, that adds nicely to what you can do while at the toilet. Watch live TV.
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When we say iphone is crap all we are doing is:
1. Lying to ourselves; or
2. Showing that we are real fan boys who lack the ability to be objective
FALSE. Precisely what we are doing is being objective. We are not buying into the "magical" marketing hype.
If it is doing so well it is because it actually offers something people want:
a Church of Steve membership, with implied coolness and extra high m-2-m attractiveness.
Functionality wise, the Iphone is not that impressive. In many ways the Iphone is the opposite of the N900. If the N900 values are important to you, the Iphone probably seems to be about as underfeatured as a phone can be. If the Iphone values are important to you, the N900 probably seems about as unfinished as a phone can be. So, if you're at either end of the scale, the other phone actually IS crap, in your evaluation.
sophocha
2010-10-14, 14:21
i got my iphone4 3 weeks back haven't touched my n900 since than and only use it for mp3 music in toilet. The number of apps on iphone is amazing, the navigation, os, everything is so smooth and silky. Plan on trading n900 out even though i have nitrdroid installed on it and o/cd it to 1Ghz.
While you use your as an mp3 player in the toilet, I for once open up the browser go to tvcatchup.com and use it as a TV ( in the toilet)....and that`s only one of the many things I use my N900 for....while I sit down I VPN to my computer and play some mp3s remotely just to be entertained....at the end I sit there for so long that I cannot feel my legs!.....and you just use it as an mp3 player?....what can I say.....
I hate Apple more than anyone out there but think it is a bit silly the way the fanboys on this site say things lik iphone is crap and all that.
If it is doing so well it is because it actually offers something people want. We may have no interest on it but I don't think we can honestly say to ourselves that tens of millions are buying crap and at so much cost.
If we were honest with ourselves we would say it is a good device which has things the mass market is interested in (ease of use, tons of apps, works well). However, we are not interested in it because we don't want to be told what we can do with our device, we want to modify the device, we don't want to pay for ringtones when we already have the mp3, we want a keyboard, etc.
When we say iphone is crap all we are doing is:
1. Lying to ourselves; or
2. Showing that we are real fan boys who lack the ability to be objective
Ok, I must be honest to myself. I love Apple more than anyone does, but I still think iPhone sucks.
I hate Nokia more than anyone does, but I love N900.
Deal with it. We understand you've bought a defective N900 and the Nokia Care centre gave you a bad time, but it isn't worth it to keep wasting your time trying to deflect people from their love of N900 just to get back at Nokia.
You should learn to accept failure in your life and move on. It does you no good to waste your time here. Go, iPhone community needs you, we'll miss you.
I hate Apple more than anyone out there but think it is a bit silly the way the fanboys on this site say things lik iphone is crap and all that.
Hi
If i may be so bold i would like to disagree.
Hopefully you can see from my previous posts that i am an ojective poster. However i am not an entirely objective person. Nobody is.
I constantly use analogies so apologies if it becomes tiresome. Consider films. You and a group of people sit and watch a rom-com. It may be well acted and thoughtful, but too slow paced or mushy for your particular taste.
Answer honestly, do you, whilst discussing the film straight afterwards say to your friends.
a) Although the characters were well developed, and the interpersonal relationships between the main characters was poignant and enlightening. I felt the journey they tried to take me on didn't move at a quick enough pace and thus i don't think this film is for me, however i do appreciate how other people could like it if they were interested in......
b) that was crap.
They're the same thing. But obviosuly one is less likely to be ridiculed (decide for yourself which one that is lol)
Whenever i read IPhone "is crap" i supplement it with "is not for me". It makes me feel less obliged to post rebuttals.
Regards
Stefan
EDIT: Volt's post at the bottom of the previous page is similar to this. Must have been posted whilst i was typing.
AndyNokia232
2010-10-14, 15:14
This whole argument is a bit silly. I'm sure it's the same over on the Dodge Charger forum site, where Charger fanboys slag off Mustangs, or something. We are biased towards the N900 because we chose to buy it in the first place, we shelled out $450, and most of us aren't tied up with the rip-off merchants, AT&T. The iPhone is a commercial success, but part of the whole reason we didn't buy it is because us N900 owners like something different. And let's face it, Nokia is not doing so well these days in the mobile phone market. They're the underdog, and it's always nice to rally around (this forum) and be supportive.
Ok, I must be honest to myself. I love Apple more than anyone does, but I still think iPhone sucks.
I hate Nokia more than anyone does, but I love N900.
Deal with it. We understand you've bought a defective N900 and the Nokia Care centre gave you a bad time, but it isn't worth it to keep wasting your time trying to deflect people from their love of N900 just to get back at Nokia.
You should learn to accept failure in your life and move on. It does you no good to waste your time here. Go, iPhone community needs you, we'll miss you.
See everything you have posted here is so wrong I don't know where to start.
But let me start by saying I love my N900. Every single day without it is torturing me. It happens to be a great device but unfortunately made by a useless company. I was using my N900 for 3 months without a usb port and had to send it in cause I bricked my device and needed usb port to reflash. How did I brick my device? I got addicted to modding and didn't know when to stop. Unfortunately I eventually I modified a file which meant the device got stuck on the Nokia boot screen. My wife warned me for months to stop messing around with the N900 but it was just so amazing I could not stop.
I have been without N900 for over a month and still come here everyday looking for latest developments and have list of things I have to try out when I finally get N900 back (swappolube, theme customizer, fast modding script being top of the list). Everyday without my N900 I am cursing Nokia for depriving me of my darling N900.
Have to add that before I started modding my device I actually hated it because of its tons of bugs and lacking features. However, modding makes up for that and a lot of the mods fix some of the bugs (such as overclocking helping with my web browsing where I used to have to constantly deal with grid lines).
Now some of you have responded to say you are being objective when you say the iphone is crap. Sorry but what you have described is not objective it is absolutely subjective. It is crap for you. Do you really think tens of millions are buying it because Steve Jobs told them it is amazing? Yes Apple marketing helps but this may be news to you millions of people love the iphone and if you gave 20 million people an iphone and N900 more people would actually prefer the iphone even if it was made by HTC let's say. Or they had never heard of Apple.
What you think of a device is not objective, it is the exact definition of subjective. If you are unable to realise that something a vast number of people love is a good device (for them) just because you hate it that means you are incapable of being objective.
Look at Wii for example. Many fans of HD gaming absolutely absolutely hate it and think it is a piece of crap. However, it is Nintendo's best selling home console ever and is loved by tons. That an Xbox 360 fan thinks it is worth less than **** does not make it a crap device. It is only crap to him. That is his subjective view. An objective view would tell him that though he hates it, the fact that so many actually love it means it is a good device (for others).
gabby131
2010-10-14, 15:53
bing! how many threads with the theme GoodBye n900, Hello (your smartphone here)? i want to count but NVM.
well in any case, i have an Android device and gonna get another one this October.
but to tell you, i usually get new phones/devices and sell/trade my old one, but with the exception of the n900, I already had 2 smartphones after the n900 but its still with me.......:D
While you use your as an mp3 player in the toilet, I for once open up the browser go to tvcatchup.com and use it as a TV ( in the toilet)....and that`s only one of the many things I use my N900 for....while I sit down I VPN to my computer and play some mp3s remotely just to be entertained....at the end I sit there for so long that I cannot feel my legs!.....and you just use it as an mp3 player?....what can I say.....
Man you should type any letter in appstore and you'll get tons of apps based on that particular catagory. E.g i also have kmplayer and worldtv on my 900 but htere is HDTV , Live TV, tv.nu, mtstv etc also available for iphone. With rez of the screen bordering HD comparing teh video quality of n900 to iphone 4 is day and night. While my N900 is overclocked to 1.1ghz, it's stutters and grinds to halt when i try applicataion manager . Also regular browsing scrolling is filled with hiccups and stutters> true i've some widgets on the desktops as well but again i'd rather use a nifty device as a main device than some jack of all master of none which takes more than a few secs to accept a call.
Also since you fanboys are at it, i was one of those who installed NITDROID the manual way, way before they made the installer for it so dont tell me N900 is not for me. We get one tower defence game on this and there are 100s of games liek that on iphone including Star Wars Battle of HOTH. Gameloft has gone crazy on iphone with Call of duty series for it.
I'm not gonna argue but i think i'm in better position to comment about both phones than your one sided experience with N900. And to let you know i never liked apple products and never used one before this. I got this off ebay to sell it off in my country since the prices were ridiculous and i thot i could make a quick buck. But within a day of use i dint 'want to let it go even though it's 16gb version and with 50+ apps on it im left with only 3~4 gb. That's 3 weeks of use compared to almost a year's use of N900 having 23GB internal and 5.6gb on external (bal for NIT) still free. How i wish iphone could use my 8GB class 6 i installed NIT on. That's the only negative thing about iphone .
If u guys want to site your opinion do it when you have both teh products not your utter fanboism.
I'm not gonna argue but i think i'm in better position to comment about both phones than your one sided experience with N900.
Why are you posting here, seriously? To troll? To try and convince us that the N900 is bad and we should buy an iPhone?
If u guys want to site your opinion do it when you have both teh products not your utter fanboism.
Until Jobs and Apple stop insisting that they own every iPhone even after sale, I'm going to continue ignoring them. And you should stop, this isn't an iPhone forum. Nothing good will come from continued attacks against the people here or the N900.
AndyNokia232
2010-10-14, 17:03
I don't think he's attacking us necessarily, I think he's just defending himself and his opinion, and he has every right to do that. It's a silly argument about preference, and in those games NOBODY wins/concedes. It's like the IT guys at work who argue CONSTANTLY about which is better, OSX or Win7. It's a never-ending bore-fest for the rest of us! Each has their merits and faults. I've had my N900 for 2 days now, and totally regret waiting this long, I think it's awesome. But I'm not about to point and laugh deridingly at my mate's iPhone in the pub tonight. And if he points and laughs at my N900, I'll just plop his iPhone into his pint of girlie light beer.
Of course everyone has a right to their opinion, but what is the point of talking about how awesome your iphone is on a Maemo forum? Believe me, the response would be equally venomous if I went on an iphone forum talking about how awesome my n900 is.
AndyNokia232
2010-10-14, 18:22
Ha ha, could you imagine?! Most of those iPhone owners probably wouldn't even know what you were talking about. Actually, one of my close friends saw my N900 yesterday and said, "is that an iPhone?" to which I said, "no, it's a Nokia N900." He looked at me as if I'd just told him I'd spent $450 on a pre-owned clamshell from 2003. "why didn't you get an iPhone?" he asked me, to which I replied, "I want a physical keyboard and I hate AT&T." So then he says, "So why not an Android, like the new G2?" My response sounded a bit cheesy, but I stand by it: "Because I've always trusted and enjoyed Nokia phones and this one has done nothing but impress me so far, and I'm not interested in trawling through 50,000 apps just to find the 12 that I will actually use". He just shrugged his shoulders, totally unconvinced. Another ignoramus!
sophocha
2010-10-14, 18:23
Man you should type any letter in appstore and you'll get tons of apps based on that particular catagory. E.g i also have kmplayer and worldtv on my 900 but htere is HDTV , Live TV, tv.nu, mtstv etc also available for iphone. With rez of the screen bordering HD comparing teh video quality of n900 to iphone 4 is day and night. While my N900 is overclocked to 1.1ghz, it's stutters and grinds to halt when i try applicataion manager . Also regular browsing scrolling is filled with hiccups and stutters> true i've some widgets on the desktops as well but again i'd rather use a nifty device as a main device than some jack of all master of none which takes more than a few secs to accept a call.
Also since you fanboys are at it, i was one of those who installed NITDROID the manual way, way before they made the installer for it so dont tell me N900 is not for me. We get one tower defence game on this and there are 100s of games liek that on iphone including Star Wars Battle of HOTH. Gameloft has gone crazy on iphone with Call of duty series for it.
I'm not gonna argue but i think i'm in better position to comment about both phones than your one sided experience with N900. And to let you know i never liked apple products and never used one before this. I got this off ebay to sell it off in my country since the prices were ridiculous and i thot i could make a quick buck. But within a day of use i dint 'want to let it go even though it's 16gb version and with 50+ apps on it im left with only 3~4 gb. That's 3 weeks of use compared to almost a year's use of N900 having 23GB internal and 5.6gb on external (bal for NIT) still free. How i wish iphone could use my 8GB class 6 i installed NIT on. That's the only negative thing about iphone .
If u guys want to site your opinion do it when you have both teh products not your utter fanboism.
.....and how much did you pay for your Godly iphone?I got mine second hand for 250 (pounds) back in February....'value for money' is not a synonym with apple, try to get an iphone4 with that amount....plus,you have to PAY for your 'wonderful' apps, that`s the big difference with the N900, plus it`s expandability....just today Meego was announced for it....that is why I don`t go Apple crazed.....and because of the stubborness of Mr. jobs not to include Flash or at least give the freedom of open cource to it`s phone.....anyways, enough blabing for today
.....and how much did you pay for your Godly iphone?I got mine second hand for 250 (pounds) back in February....'value for money' is not a synonym with apple, try to get an iphone4 with that amount....plus,you have to PAY for your 'wonderful' apps, that`s the big difference with the N900, plus it`s expandability....just today Meego was announced for it....that is why I don`t go Apple crazed.....and because of the stubborness of Mr. jobs not to include Flash or at least give the freedom of open cource to it`s phone.....anyways, enough blabing for today
I bought my N900 for 600$ back in jan 2010. Expecting it to be a bemoeth of a PDA but alas it's a tinkering toy for the nerds like us but not really practicle. Bought my iP4 for $735 back in sept off ebay, unlocked and Jailbroken.
Descalzo
2010-10-14, 22:19
Why bother telling us all of this, no one cares, it's your device - sell it if you like. If you want to share an experience, that's okay, but know that lots of people here thinks the other way, it's maemo.org after all. So don't get insulted if someone is arrogant, posts like yours are common in past few months, lots of you complaining guys really have no idea why did you bought n900 at the first place. So if you still have doubts, sell it until you can regain even 50% of money invested in it, and go for something else...
When I was trying to decide between iPhone/Nexus One/N900 I was glad to see threads like this one. I spent weeks doing my homework, comparing features, sniffing out the real problems that real users have with it.
Threads like this fill an important niche. Some people really do want to know what they're in for, and threads like this are a good place to hear real complaints. Plus, for the first three pages of every one of these threads, every other post tells 3 easy fixes for each of the problems listed in the OP. This was information I needed.
-=Hot|Ice=-
2010-10-15, 04:31
No Flash 10.1 support is the only thing that really annoys me.
arnoldux
2010-10-15, 06:30
Hi
After two months experience of using N900, I want to give up this device and change to use android device. The following are the major reasons:
N900 can run many different software but their quality are not as good as default web browser, so it is useless.
- No Flash Player 10.1 Support.
- Video Players (Default, SIB and KMPlayer) not as good as I expected, as it can play many different format of video files but lack of subtitle and audio selection supports.
- For game, most game emulators are running slow, dos box also has the same problem.
- Camera quality is not good as too much noise for night shot.
- No Meego OS support from Nokia.
- Phone function is not good to use.
Mybe its just me but:
1.- MicroB s very good, the only one u need for different functionality things are Macuco and/or Firefox, but everything works pretty well
2.- We know about the flash, but you cant tweak it so you
can play/view stuff in 10.1
3.- Video players ARE good, you can download a package for subtitles, i have no problem with the audio (less stutter thanks to brad and mohammads package hack)
4.- All emulators work fine here, even psx4m works fast (just need to configure and thats alla)
5.- Its a phone, not a digital camera, but stil has pretty good quality, you can find very good pointers/tricks in the forum to have less noise.
6.- Fk MeeGo i like a Maemo.
7.- I have no problems with the phone function, i actually love it.
But then again, this is just me.
:D
Amazing how this thread is almost 4 months old, and the OP is still a regular here... guess the N900 ain't as bad as they originally thought...
Amazing how this thread is almost 4 months old, and the OP is still a regular here... guess the N900 ain't as bad as they originally thought...
Lol did not even realise it was an old thread when I posted. Thought it was like 3 days old.
But let me start by saying I love my N900. Every single day without it is torturing me. It happens to be a great device but unfortunately made by a useless company. I was using my N900 for 3 months without a usb port and had to send it in cause I bricked my device and needed usb port to reflash. How did I brick my device? I got addicted to modding and didn't know when to stop. Unfortunately I eventually I modified a file which meant the device got stuck on the Nokia boot screen. My wife warned me for months to stop messing around with the N900 but it was just so amazing I could not stop.
Man, you know I always thought you're the most unfortunate human being on earth, as you seem to have to deal with more problems in N900 than the aggregate total of the problems that are reported by the entire N900 communities. And yet you don't seem to want to solve the problems you are facing, instead keep complaining everyday, even when many of those can be easily solved by flashing your firmware.
After all the complaining and ranting, now that you told me you love N900.
Shocked, I'm absolutely shocked. Can you understand my feeling? It's as shock as Bin Laden telling me he loves America, Hilary Clinton telling me she loves China, and Tiger Wood telling me he loves his wife - and they are telling me that all at once.
I can't breath, I can't breath....take my N900 near me please....
I have been without N900 for over a month and still come here everyday looking for latest developments and have list of things I have to try out when I finally get N900 back (swappolube, theme customizer, fast modding script being top of the list). Everyday without my N900 I am cursing Nokia for depriving me of my darling N900.
The fact that you could still keep complaining how hard N900 is during the time you sent your N900 back to Nokia for repairing amused me. Then I assumed that you own an extra N900 to complain with. While you complain N900 you never fail to compare it with iPhone, so I also assumed you owned two N900 and multiple iPhones.
You're the most blessed unfortunate human being on earth.
Now some of you have responded to say you are being objective when you say the iphone is crap.
Well you must have mistaken me for someone else. I've never said I'm objective, and I've never said iPhone is crap. iPhone sucks, but that doesn't make it crap. I'm sorry to say you're wasting time on getting into something too personal.
You know the differences between N900 users and iPhone users?
N900 Users: When you cry out loud N900 is difficult and keep complaining and ranting, you would be excused and some even come to help you even when you weren't asked for one.
iPhone Users: You look like an absolute idiot when you cry for help.
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