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phi
2007-04-22, 03:16
So will there be another hacker edition release for the march release of OS2007 or is that it?

nate the great
2007-04-22, 03:54
I can see from your question that you haven't completely given up on Nokia yet. I admire that.

No, there will be no more updates from that despicable company. They have completely abandoned us.

benny1967
2007-04-22, 09:10
Although I have several reasons not to believe in Nokia anymore, I still do - the same way I expect to win in the lottery each week :)

The Hacker Edition is a fine, exciting and very useful piece of work. Despite of what Nokia says, it seems to be end user ready. I'd love to see at least one more version of it.

phi
2007-04-22, 15:07
Well, from the wiki entry on maemo, it looks like they're still working on it and after using the hacker edition, I can't go back to os2006. Well, I tried and my browser was crashing so much. I don't remember it crashing that much before I updated to os2007 but I'm guessing I was just more forgiving. OS2007 seems a lot more stable even if it is a "hacker" version.

So yes, I hold out hope.

Texrat
2007-04-22, 15:58
phi, I can't find the entry you mention-- do you have a link?

EDIT: never mind-- I assume you're referring to the comments near the bottom of the page at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770 .

phi
2007-04-22, 16:52
Yup, that's the one.

convulted
2007-04-22, 17:06
I love the hacker ed and would still be using it if it weren't for a couple of reasons like the complete inability for Opera to work for longer than 2 mins without locking and rebooting (it was honestly unusable)... pity though, it is more polished in other aspects.
Why does no one seem to be working actively on a better browser?!?

phi
2007-04-22, 17:11
That's funny, because Opera seemed to be dying and crashing a lot when I downgraded to OS2006 but its been a lot more stable with the hacker edition.

convulted
2007-04-22, 19:00
I was constantly bombarded with "Internal Error" messages, then reflashed and it got worse. Weird.

fanoush
2007-04-22, 19:37
That's odd. Opera is rock solid for me with OS2007 on N770. I don't remember it ever crashed in OS2007. I still remember how much it crashed with OS2006. One difference may be that I have Flash plugin disabled.

Texrat
2007-04-23, 03:39
I'm still convinced that many browser crashes have to do with the website visited (note: by saying that I am not letting Nokia off the hook). Maybe we need to establish some sort of compatibility benchmark system, where we have several typical websites that run the gamut of compatibility. Then we can see if we can establish some commonality in these seemingly random events...

convulted
2007-04-23, 05:53
How about this: I only used it to visit these forums, Google and gmail. No, the crashes are inexcusable. Oh and btw with javascript enabled gmail won't let you change password: it just keeps refilling the old one in and removing the keyboard. Sounds like Opera's messing up again...

*edit*

I would love to run my entire system off RS-MMC maybe the internal flash mem is to blame.

maxilogan
2007-04-23, 09:38
That's odd. Opera is rock solid for me with OS2007 on N770. I don't remember it ever crashed in OS2007. I still remember how much it crashed with OS2006. One difference may be that I have Flash plugin disabled.

Do you mean you disabled it in some places on the system or that we can not run flash at all (even the old version) on OS2007/770?

benny1967
2007-04-23, 10:28
Do you mean you disabled it in some places on the system or that we can not run flash at all (even the old version) on OS2007/770?

my guess is he's talking about disabling it in the browser settings (you can do this in os2006, too). a lot of people disable the plugin; flash's mostly ads, anyway.

fanoush
2007-04-23, 11:05
I would love to run my entire system off RS-MMC maybe the internal flash mem is to blame.
So who is stopping you from doing it? :-)

fanoush
2007-04-23, 11:09
my guess is he's talking about disabling it in the browser settings (you can do this in os2006, too). a lot of people disable the plugin; flash's mostly ads, anyway.
Yes, mostly (=99.9%) I don't need Flash. And if there is a need it is easy to enable temporarily (rightmost button in toolbar).

Texrat
2007-04-23, 15:11
How about this: I only used it to visit these forums, Google and gmail. No, the crashes are inexcusable. Oh and btw with javascript enabled gmail won't let you change password: it just keeps refilling the old one in and removing the keyboard. Sounds like Opera's messing up again...

...and that's something else that could perhaps benefit from serious analysis. It's my impression that your experience is unique (I haven't encountered them, but my experience could be unique as well). Maybe you could construct a poll here to see how many experience similar issues. That's a start...

convulted
2007-04-23, 18:01
So who is stopping you from doing it? :-)

RS-MMC are very expensive (and rare) over here :) No, really...

*edit*

Oh and the password thing referred to gmail only.

fanoush
2007-04-23, 20:25
RS-MMC are very expensive (and rare) over here :) No, really...

Hmm, in my country the kingston mmcmobile 2GB is available in almost every webshop and price is equivalent to $30 including VAT. Is this very expensive?

convulted
2007-04-23, 20:54
Hey I'm a student with no cash! The real reason is that I _do_ have better uses for my time :)

*edit*

And I prefer buying stuff like flash mem in person... heard one too many eBay stories -- and 1GB card here costs about $55!