Sygic 10 Bugs

[bull81]

Hi All

Starting new thread to get all the new sygic maps 10 bugs

So far I have:
- laggy interface and maps
- home address is not saved after you exit the program (reboot fix it)
- random crashes when you try to start it (reboot fix it)
- address book with empty entries

Please report any other bugs

EDIT:

After reboot no more problems with crashes and home location.

EDIT2:
Make sure to remove prevoius version. IF you still have problems you might fallow
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=778711&postcount=204

[bockersjv]

Installed as per instructions (all old v9 stuff removed too) and it will not start. Just flashes briefly and starts the sat receiver then closes within 2 seconds.:mad:

[msa]

wow... looks like nokia instructed everyone to release unfinished broken software^^

[taril]

Hi All

Starting new thread to get all the new sygic maps 10 bugs

So far I have:
- laggy interface and maps
- home address is not saved after you exit the program
- random crashes when you try to start it
- address book with empty entries

Please report any other bugs

Why are you reporting here???
Report it directly to Sygic!
You have these bugs, you have to report them!
Go ahead!

http://sygic.com/index.php/en/help.html

[bull81]

Installed as per instructions (all old v9 stuff removed too) and it will not start. Just flashes briefly and starts the sat receiver then closes within 2 seconds.:mad:

go to command line ant start from there

cd /
/opt/sygic/Drive/Maemo/drive -cwd=/home/user/MyDocs/Drive/Maemo-rfullNokia-N900

[bull81]

Why are you reporting here???
Report it directly to Sygic!
You have these bugs, you have to report them!
Go ahead!

http://sygic.com/index.php/en/help.html

taril: you're right, I just want to avoid 100 new threads about evy new 'feature' that doesn't work. I am logging bugs right know, btw, thanks for the link

[sperry]

I downloaded v10 last night, installed it, set my Home location, rebooted, and the Home location is still there.

It's no slower than the previous version in use.

Not had one crash at all. Are you on the latest firmware like they suggest?

[zarf]

Same here, effortless update, works great, really very impressed too.

:)

[zarf]

download it from the link emailed to you and not anywhere else.

[zdeno.]

Hi All,

- v10 is really slower, and it's really bug. It's already fixed, hope in a few days update will be available
- empty entries in addressbook are when name or address in your contact is empty. Will consider filtering of these empty entries...

[Laughing Man]

I think Sygic 10 has trouble connecting to the internal GPS. The icon flashes but won't find any satellites. But if I turn on the location widget, it instantly locks on the moment I turn on the Ovi Maps widget.

[bjknight]

I know I might be stating the obvious but, after install, please reboot your phone. Then try it.

The various "bugs" people are describing (including the slowness) are what I saw when running it straight after install.

After reboot, it is not really slower than MM9 and it isn't leaking memory anywhere. The experience is pretty good with MM10.

I would like to have seen a free-text quick search for a destination (such as that in Ovi maps) but, other than that, it's a nice bit of kit.

[d-iivil]

Tried this MM10 today for the first time with longer trip. Program segfaults after running 30-60 mins.

Getting better and better :P

And totally agree about free text search, since I usually don't know the exact name of the city where the street is where I want to navigate so I need first to open OVI Maps and check the city/town there before I can find the street with MM10.

[d-iivil]

Tried this MM10 today for the first time with longer trip. Program segfaults after running 30-60 mins.

Getting better and better :P

And totally agree about free text search, since I usually don't know the exact name of the city where the street is where I want to navigate so I need first to open OVI Maps and check the city/town there before I can find the street with MM10.

Besides constant crashing (today it last almost 50mins without segfaulting) running the MM10 makes my phone REALLY warm. I mean I can run PSX4M @ 950MHz for hours with CPU constantly hitting 100% without the phone getting that warm. Now when I run Sygic MM10 @ 600MHz for half an hour the phone is really hot. CPU usage while navigating is somewhere between 30-60%. Don't know what makes the phone heat up.

[bockersjv]

go to command line ant start from there

cd /
/opt/sygic/Drive/Maemo/drive -cwd=/home/user/MyDocs/Drive/Maemo-rfullNokia-N900

Tried this and still no joy. Have also done all the actiosn to clean the device of MM9 and a fresh install but still the same result. I have reported this to Sygic but no reply from them either :confused:

[taril]

If you downscaled the CPU, don't forget to set back its defaults before you start SMM10! (CPUFreq etc...)

[d-iivil]

If you downscaled the CPU, don't forget to set back its defaults before you start SMM10! (CPUFreq etc...)

If this was pointed to me (learn to quote, please), then I can explain a bit more:
I normally have titan's kernel installed and OC'd @ 950MHz, but when Sygic seemed to segfault I uninstalled the custom kernel and reverted back to default one with no luck and the phone still heats badly.

Don't have CPUFreqUI or anything like that installed.

[toxaris]

Hmm, strange problem.
I had full MM9 Europe installed and working fine.
Now I folowed the instructions to uninstall and install MM10 and when I started the program it says "No map loaded, tap here to access the menu".
What to do?

[Dave999]

Hmm, strange problem.
I had full MM9 Europe installed and working fine.
Now I folowed the instructions to uninstall and install MM10 and when I started the program it says "No map loaded, tap here to access the menu".
What to do?

I had to reinstall it two times. First time, I couldn't enter my keycode, second time I didn't get any lock. Try to reinstall it and verify that you have created a new maps folder with the new maps ;).

Or send a mail to sygic support.

[taril]

If this was pointed to me (learn to quote, please), then I can explain a bit more:
I normally have titan's kernel installed and OC'd @ 950MHz, but when Sygic seemed to segfault I uninstalled the custom kernel and reverted back to default one with no luck and the phone still heats badly.

Don't have CPUFreqUI or anything like that installed.

Of course it is heated badly in general! Its normal, and it is drained the full battery within 2 hours.

It's not a new thing.

Explain the exact steps you did with sygic, settings, navigation rout, period etc to be able to reproduce your segfault!

[d-iivil]

Explain the exact steps you did with sygic, settings, navigation rout, period etc to be able to reproduce your segfault!

- open the program (from shortcut of from terminal to see the segfault)
- tap navigate
- tap favourite
- select favourite
- tap "route me" (I have it in finnish, don't know the exact english word here)
- drive
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- crash without warning (just returns to the desktop / terminal)

Edit: settings are all default, haven't touched those yet.

[bockersjv]

I had to reinstall it two times. First time, I couldn't enter my keycode, second time I didn't get any lock. Try to reinstall it and verify that you have created a new maps folder with the new maps ;).

Or send a mail to sygic support.

Tried it numerous times now, at least 5 times :( Reported the issue to sygic last week and again and still no answer. I have received the upgrade email again though, now the 4th time I have had the same mail. Are they taunting me :D

[d-iivil]

Disabling the interactive (or something like that) menus seemed to stop the program segfaulting on my device. It also made the whole program run smoother.

[sygys]

Night mode is not automatic anymore.

in portrait mode not all info in the bottom fits and is overwriting eachother.

Wow this is by far the worst official release after a far better beta release i have ever seen in software.

The beta of maps 10 was far better. where everything did work properly!

Its like they uploaded the wrong version to the users!

The beta version did overheat the n900 when charging. and would result in crashing the GPS chip after half an hour of driving. They really should fix this fast!

[bockersjv]

They could also answer their email :mad:

[ddiscodave]

i have been using sygic for several months now and i have not gotten the email yet containing either a link for the upgrade, or the upgrade itself... where were you able to get yours from? i have been eagerly awaiting the OTA upgrade but according to sygic the sh1t isnt available yet on ovi.com yet.

any help would be appreciated

[cesarcesar]

sucks u all are having such issues. i guess i was in a good mind to enjoy my working v9 for a little longer before makling the upgrade. i will follow this thread to see when the best time to make my upgrade is.

i also have USA and EU maps, though i have only seen upgrade info for maps 10 USA come through my mail though. is EU v10 even avauilable yet?

[YoDude]

Disabling the interactive (or something like that) menus seemed to stop the program segfaulting on my device. It also made the whole program run smoother.

Yup. That was one of the first things I did and it did settle down considerably.

I mount my N900 in the car in portrait orientation. The problem with that is... Sygic won't start in portrait mode. In order to make it so, I have to take the N900 out of its mount and rock the accelerator. This kind of defeats the whole secure mounting thing. :rolleyes:

This was the case as well with the final MM9 build. The work around was to rename the menu.ini file located in \Sygic\Drive\Maemo and the default menu had a "Rotate Display" icon in settings that when touched would change it to portrait.

That^ same hack works in MM10 however, now when "Rotate Display" is tapped I get an instant crash and the program closes.

I'll keep playing with this until live traffic becomes available. If that turns out to be nothing exciting, I'll revert back to MM9 where "Rotate Display" does work and makes It more useful for me.

[ceroberts75]

address book is really wierd.


it doesnt list all the address/contacts. and the format is odd in how it shows.


ineffective and a waste of time to try it.


bummer

[KGreb]

i also have USA and EU maps, though i have only seen upgrade info for maps 10 USA come through my mail though. is EU v10 even avauilable yet?
I also have both USA and EU, but have the opposite problem. They have only sent me the EU download link.

[Dave999]

I tried sygic maps 10 for 130 km drive.

-sygic maps crached 4 times

-infromation about speed,distance and so forth stopped updating when I used music and fm transiver. (worked perfect with maps 9)

+the only thing that worked were the speed cam warnings.

Worst update ever. Will change back to sygic 9 when i get back home.

sygicsupport. I expect an update in the next few weeks. :(

[spanner]

I also want to revert to SMM 9, this "update" is a minor disaster. Does anyone know:

* Where I can get the updated v9 .deb (the version with autorotate support & continued voice guidance with screen locked)? I received this OTA previously so didn't keep the download.

* Is it possible to use the updated v10 Maps with the SMM 9 application? Presumably Maps/ would be v10, while Res/ and Drive/ would be v9?

[radiowc]

- open the program (from shortcut of from terminal to see the segfault)
- tap navigate
- tap favourite
- select favourite
- tap "route me" (I have it in finnish, don't know the exact english word here)
- drive
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- drive some more
- crash without warning (just returns to the desktop / terminal)

Edit: settings are all default, haven't touched those yet.

Yup...I managed to reproduce this too... it crashed too. :(

Mine is all default setting...no fancy setting including my N900. all default.

I hope Sygic will put a patch for it.

[d-iivil]

Disabling the interactive (or something like that) menus seemed to stop the program segfaulting on my device. It also made the whole program run smoother.

I'll take this back. Sygic crashed twice during one hour trip.

I noticed that second time it crashed I didn't have a cell network available (blank area). Don't know if it has anything to do with it, just caught my eye.

[sacal]

That^ same hack works in MM10 however, now when "Rotate Display" is tapped I get an instant crash and the program closes.



No crash here. With "Rotate Display" button display rotates to portrait and back to landscape. Display also changes with accelerometer without crashing.

For me the main problem with this version compared with v9 is the heating and battery drain (running original kernel no overclock). It seams the processor is running always at full speed even if there is no routing going on.

The menu panning is also choppy. It should be smoother.

I'm not sure by it also seams to me that routing takes a bit longer than in v9.

Overall my v10 installation it's working although i think v10 still needs some improvements. ;)

[bockersjv]

Day 5 just ending. Email sent to support everyday and still no response :( I have however had 4 emails persuading me to upgrade, lovely!

[YoDude]

No crash here. With "Rotate Display" button display rotates to portrait and back to landscape. Display also changes with accelerometer without crashing.

For me the main problem with this version compared with v9 is the heating and battery drain (running original kernel no overclock). It seams the processor is running always at full speed even if there is no routing going on.

The menu panning is also choppy. It should be smoother.

I'm not sure by it also seams to me that routing takes a bit longer than in v9.

Overall my v10 installation it's working although i think v10 still needs some improvements. ;)

Good to hear that rotate works for you... I'll look elsewhere for my problem then, :)

Routing does take a lot longer for me as well and yes, the warmth and battery drain I reported earlier remains.

From what I am seeing, I'm wondering if internet connection and contact db tracking have a lot to do with all this. It may not play well with Hildon notifications like new mail, alarms, and such as well.

They tamed the opening multiple instances at least. :)

[cesarcesar]

Day 5 just ending. Email sent to support everyday and still no response I have however had 4 emails persuading me to upgrade, lovely!

I have been corresponding with Sygic on multiple occasions in the past few weeks. It does take them a few days to reply, but they always have. If you reply back to them right away they will reply right away too. Also when i say "they", i really mean him. It seems there is only one customer service person, but he has been very helpful with my requests. I'm sure Sygic is pretty backed up with email right now.

also, I am too waiting on a reply from 08/05 so your not the only one!

[Krachlik]

My experience with SMM 10 is pretty positive. Today I turned it on on my way to work. It was 1 hour of driving. My device is not overclocked, running PR 1.2 firmware and default SMM settings. The device is not overheating (in fact it was not even warm), the application runs smoothly and did not crash on me one time. Phone was connected to the bluetooth car kit, I had an incoming call while the navigation was on, everything worked fine. I also made it to reroute a couple of times as I took the other way that it was instructing me - it was fast and reliable.
So I'm glad I made the update to SMM 10 after all :)

[AVee]

Maybe not strictly a bug, but it looks like SMM 10 didn't resolve the issue I had with SMM 9. I've got an integrated bluetooth carkit which advertises itself as an headset. However, it will only playback audio from the device when there is an active call. This means that I won't hear the voice instructions when the phone is connected to the carkit. I can disable bluetooth and not connect to the carkit and get instructions on the N900's speakers, but then I won't be able to call hands-free. And I can't seem to find a way around that.

[pcsabi]

Tried this and still no joy. Have also done all the actiosn to clean the device of MM9 and a fresh install but still the same result. I have reported this to Sygic but no reply from them either :confused:

Hi bockersjv, Do you have any solution for the crash after start ?
I have the same problem :-(

[bockersjv]

Hi bockersjv, Do you have any solution for the crash after start ?
I have the same problem :-(
Sygic responded to my email and asked for a screen shot of the root files on my N900. The propblem was due to the fact that I was missing the RES folder and files. this was due to the fact that the first ZIP I managed to download was missing the RES folder and also half of the maps.

They re-sent a download link, I moved accross the res file and the rest of the maps and all is now working well.

Thanks Sygic too for all your help in resolving this. They did also appologise for the delay in resonse but explained that they have been very busy recently..

[pcsabi]

Sygic responded to my email and asked for a screen shot of the root files on my N900. The propblem was due to the fact that I was missing the RES folder and files. this was due to the fact that the first ZIP I managed to download was missing the RES folder and also half of the maps.

..
Thanks for the help ! Your message helped me to find out the problem. It was my fault, I copied the directories from the ZIP file to the memory card instead of the internal memory...

[luurimies]

I am not able to type scandic letters like ä and ö with SMM10 when searching addresses. Same with SMM virtual keyboard and device keyboard. Any ideas what is wrong? Haven't got any answer from Sygic support yet.

[d-iivil]

I am not able to type scandic letters like ä and ö with SMM10 when searching addresses. Same with SMM virtual keyboard and device keyboard. Any ideas what is wrong? Haven't got any answer from Sygic support yet.

You can use "A" and "O" letters instead of Ä and Ö. It will find the streest fine :) Ie. "jääkäripolku" can be typed as "jaakaripolku" and Sygic will find it.

[casper27]

I am still debating weather to go back to 9.Version 10 has some nice features but it takes soo long to calculate a route. Example is this weekend I had a 276 mile journey to do it took nearly 4 mins to calculate a route where as ver 9 took less than 1 minute.
I also do not like the scrolling in the menus(I have rebooted)
I do like the intergrated contacts and the maps seem to handle roundabout directions better ie go straight on or turn left at ect.
Anyone else have the routing issue or found a solution? Sorry if its already been mentioned in this thread but im on limited internet usage at min.

[DrWilken]

SMM10 still hasn't showed up in OVI, so I'm guessing the OVI QA actually works... :)

I got the email from Sygic, announcing that they had just submitted it the 6th of August.

I hope that the delay IS actually because OVI isn't satisfied with the product and not just a general OVI delay... :)

[YoDude]

SMM10 still hasn't showed up in OVI, so I'm guessing the OVI QA actually works... :)

I got the email from Sygic, announcing that they had just submitted it the 6th of August.

I hope that the delay IS actually because OVI isn't satisfied with the product and not just a general OVI delay... :)

Ah hope, perchance to dream... :D

There are still apps on OVI that are not "optified", fill up Rootfs with whole directories of data (60,000 articles) that could be easily stored elsewhere, do not completely un-install, and directly conflict with other applications. I hope that the delay is because OVI Q/A is weeding this crap out yet I still see a big offender like "WiKI How" on OVI with its original build date even though detailed feed back was given to them almost 8 months ago (http://store.ovi.com/content/23151?clickSource=homepage#/content/23151/reviews). :eek:

If OVI ever does get its act together with regard to the N900 they are going to have to post on this board what they actually did to improve it before I (and perhaps others) go back there again.

Kudos to Sygic for becoming members of our forum community and using it instead of, or as a supplement to OVI for distribution. MM10 has problems but at least they are trying to sort them out using the real world feedback that our forum can provide.

With that said:
Mine crashes at about 45 minutes into a trip. I've turned off all notifications, disabled any "dynamic" features, loaded only Sygic, and all this hasn't helped a lick as spontaneous crashes remain.

Time to calculate even simple routes within 50 miles of my current location takes a lot longer than with MM9. It shows a number count down of "routes analyzed" while it does this. That number starts of in the thousands, even when the route requested involves only two roads and one turn. :eek:

Perhaps when live traffic becomes available some of these issues will go away. Maybe some of its routines are spending time looking for something that isn't there yet.

I am going to have to downgrade to MM9 until then for the reliability if nothing else. I hope I do not have issues reactivating MM9.

Has anyone else downgraded?

[DrWilken]

Ah hope, perchance to dream... :D

:D


Kudos to Sygic for becoming members of our forum community and using it instead of, or as a supplement to OVI for distribution. MM10 has problems but at least they are trying to sort them out using the real world feedback that our forum can provide.

I can only agree... If only other software companies were this "open" maybe the community wouldn't be so bitter... ;)


Time to calculate even simple routes within 50 miles of my current location takes a lot longer than with MM9. It shows a number count down of "routes analyzed" while it does this. That number starts of in the thousands, even when the route requested involves only two roads and one turn. :eek:

Perhaps when live traffic becomes available some of these issues will go away. Maybe some of its routines are spending time looking for something that isn't there yet.

I am going to have to downgrade to MM9 until then for the reliability if nothing else. I hope I do not have issues reactivating MM9.

Guess I can wait a little longer with upgrading... :D Besides crashing occasionally I don't really have any problems with MM9.

[F2thaK]

Sygic MM10 = EPIC FAIL

[Marlon]

Sygic MM10 = EPIC FAIL

Really? Mine works superbly! I'm just waiting for the Live Traffic which is main feature I want from satnav.

[bockersjv]

Well after my install issues I have found MM10 to be faultless. It is quicket than 9 and routing is great. I too am looking forward to the traffic implementation.

[cardiff-blues]

Day 5 just ending. Email sent to support everyday and still no response :( I have however had 4 emails persuading me to upgrade, lovely!

I'm afraid to report that I haven't received a reply to my emails regarding problems either. That's a shame.

[cardiff-blues]

Does anyone know how to stop the voice navigation stating "turn right" at exactly 0.6 miles away from the right turn, regardless of there being other right turns before that one?

And not some wise crack about turning the volume down :)

At the moment this 0.6 mile pre-warning is absolutely ridiculous. It is so distracting and annoying.

[vonbraun66]

After a couple of days with SMM10 my perception is that the time to gpsfix is taking much much longer than with SMM9.

Does anyone else experience the same thing ?

[spanner]

Does anyone know how to stop the voice navigation stating "turn right" at exactly 0.6 miles away from the right turn

You've mentioned this before, and it sounds like a bug.

Mine says "in 900 yards, turn right" at 0.6 miles away from the turning. That seems reasonable to me. If you are just hearing "turn right" then that's surely a bug.

Are you using english? You could try american english perhaps?

[inidrog]

SMM10 still hasn't showed up in OVI, so I'm guessing the OVI QA actually works... :)

I got the email from Sygic, announcing that they had just submitted it the 6th of August.

I hope that the delay IS actually because OVI isn't satisfied with the product and not just a general OVI delay... :)



Nice post and logic, lets hope your onto something....

[casper27]

Nice post and logic, lets hope your onto something....

Since when did the "moderators" of the Ovi store do anything logical ;)

[Laughing Man]

After a couple of days with SMM10 my perception is that the time to gpsfix is taking much much longer than with SMM9.

Does anyone else experience the same thing ?

Go to Settings -> Location on the N900 (not in SMM10). Go down to Network positioning, does it say supl.google.com?

Something happened to supl.google.com recently so it no longer works. Switch it back to supl.nokia.com.

[gkosters]

Did a complete reflash, inluding eMMC. Fresh install of MM10 a reboot after that. Still mini freezes and lags. I just cannot imagine there are people with MM10 running smoothly. What's the difference?

[Laughing Man]

They might have overclocked their N900. Mine's at default and it doesn't freeze. But there's a slight lag when I drag the interface around.

[spanner]

Did a complete reflash, inluding eMMC. Fresh install of MM10 a reboot after that. Still mini freezes and lags. I just cannot imagine there are people with MM10 running smoothly. What's the difference?

Maybe the maps that are purchased?

Maybe the complexity of the map in the current location or map view location?

If there's a background thread chewing CPU in some certain set of conditions then the crucial difference could be almost anything!

I have the full Europe map and pretty bad stuttering all the time, overclocked or not.

[cardiff-blues]

You've mentioned this before, and it sounds like a bug.

Mine says "in 900 yards, turn right" at 0.6 miles away from the turning. That seems reasonable to me. If you are just hearing "turn right" then that's surely a bug.

Are you using english? You could try american english perhaps?

I'll try American English next. It doesn't say 'turn right in 900 yards' on mine - just 'turn right' at exactly 0.6 miles away. I have reported it to sygic but not had a response as yet.

[gkosters]

@spanner You got a point about the maps. I've also bought the European map. I had it overclocked before my reflash, still with stuttering as a result.

[Laughing Man]

Ah, it looks like it might just be the size of the map then. I'm in the US and using USA maps only.

[DrWilken]

That would explain why I haven't had any serious lag problems (with MM9) as I'm using Nordics Map... Compared to US/EU it's quite small... ;)

[vonbraun66]

Go to Settings -> Location on the N900 (not in SMM10). Go down to Network positioning, does it say supl.google.com?

Something happened to supl.google.com recently so it no longer works. Switch it back to supl.nokia.com.

Your suggestion works! Fixtime is now fast again. Thx!

[spanner]

@spanner You got a point about the maps. I've also bought the European map. I had it overclocked before my reflash, still with stuttering as a result.

Actually I just tried removing all directories except gbr (britain) from Maps and yet the stuttering was as bad as ever.

Also had pauses of up to 30 seconds and one crash-to-desktop during a 10 minute drive.

My respect for Sygic started very high but is diminishing with every day that they don't acknowledge this problem!

[DrWilken]

My respect for Sygic started very high but is diminishing with every day that they don't acknowledge this problem!

They aren't acknowledging the problem? Have they been notified of it?

You can report a problem here (http://sygic.com/index.php/en/help.html).

[topdavis]

Sometimes while I am using it, it will just shut off. If I re-open the application, it will pick up from where it left off, but the random crashing is irritating.

[joh]

Bugs (and urgently required but missing features) experienced so far (N900/maemo PR 1.2 without any CPU/clock/kernel modifications):
Random crashes to desktop (for no recognizable reason)
Entries from the contact list are not shown, when the contact name contains umlauts (or is it just the fact, that a lot of entries is missing anyway and only by chance also all tested umlaut-names are missing?)
SMM 10 does not start in portrait mode while the N900 is in vertical position; no way to correct the orientation other then removing the N900 from the car mount (particularly disappoint after a crash to desktop, because then I am driving and not allowed to pick up the phone due to road code)
User interface unsuitable for even slightly vision impaired people (white on light blue! I am not an eagle) -- problem has been with SMM 9 already and not corrected (eg. by providing an optional alternative user interface).
The speeds used for calculation of arrival time cannot be modified, ie. the calculated arrival time is always much too early.
Route calculation prefers motorways too heavily, so that even in mode "economic route" a route is recommended that is 12 km longer but just a minute or so faster than the shorter route (the route calculation has been suboptimal in SMM9 already).

In addition: N900 becomes much warmer than with SMM9, route calculation takes much much longer (without providing better routes).
By the way: I've never got a reply when writing to support@sygic.com.

[SygicSupport]

Does anyone know how to stop the voice navigation stating "turn right" at exactly 0.6 miles away from the right turn, regardless of there being other right turns before that one?

And not some wise crack about turning the volume down :)

At the moment this 0.6 mile pre-warning is absolutely ridiculous. It is so distracting and annoying.

Hi,

can you please let us know where exactly this is happening? A to B and on which road. And ideally also before which intersection / right turn this is happening. This will help us investigate the issue.

Also, which instruction voice do you use?

Thank you.

Sygic Support.

[SygicSupport]

Actually I just tried removing all directories except gbr (britain) from Maps and yet the stuttering was as bad as ever.

Also had pauses of up to 30 seconds and one crash-to-desktop during a 10 minute drive.

My respect for Sygic started very high but is diminishing with every day that they don't acknowledge this problem!

Hi,

actually, we are working on an update which will address energy consumption and app responsiveness.

Unfortunately we can not provide you with timing on when the update will be delivered to customers who have either online shop app version or Ovi Store app version.

Lots of people also voted at feedback.sygic.com for new product Aura to be launched for Maemo. This is planned now. But please understand that addressing both technical issues with Mobile Maps 10 update and Aura launch will result in extended delivery times for both.

We will do our best to provide you with an update as soon as we can.

Thank you.

Sygic Support.

[spanner]

actually, we are working on an update which will address energy consumption and app responsiveness.

Great news, thanks. That was all I needed to hear.

Unfortunately we can not provide you with timing

If I'd just bought SMM10 for 70 euro, I'd be unhappy & impatient. But you guys gave me a free upgrade from SMM9, so I can wait :).

[d-iivil]

In my humble opinion fixing already released CLEARLY broken / faulty product (crashes constantly) should be on top of their priority list instead of launching new product. You guys @ Sygic should think about people who have PAID REAL MONEY for the software which isn't usable at it's current state.

But hey, that's just me and my opinion.

[vonbraun66]

SMM 10 does not start in portrait mode while the N900 is in vertical position; no way to correct the orientation other then removing the N900 from the car mount (particularly disappoint after a crash to desktop, because then I am driving and not allowed to pick up the phone due to road code).

When you delete or rename the menu.ini file in Drive/Maemo some extra features pop up in the (settings) menus. One of them is screen orientation. You can set screen orientation to portrait. In that way it will start up in portrait mode right from the start.

[joh]

When you delete or rename the menu.ini file in Drive/Maemo some extra features pop up in the (settings) menus. One of them is screen orientation. You can set screen orientation to portrait. In that way it will start up in portrait mode right from the start.

Thanks for noting. Meanwhile I had found this mod myself already – and it seemed to be no solution: A light blue bar between the task bar and the map and menu moved the map and menu to the left partly out of the screen. But testing again: Contrary to SMM 9 you can now turn the SMM screen so that the USB/power socket is at the bottom! (No idea whether this blue bar is still to the right, at least it is not between the task bar and the map/menu.) So this not only gives you the portrait screen always (no change back to landscape even you turn the N900) but also shortens the distance from the cigarette lighter to the N900 power socket.

[gkosters]

Worst of all. You can't revert back to MM9 because it cannot be activated. And using v10 maps in MM9 fails. This means we're stuck with a disfunctional product untill the update.

[cardiff-blues]

Hi,

can you please let us know where exactly this is happening? A to B and on which road. And ideally also before which intersection / right turn this is happening. This will help us investigate the issue.

Also, which instruction voice do you use?

Thank you.

Sygic Support.

Not sure why but am not getting email notifications of updates for this thread.

Anyhow, It happens everywhere I travel so can't give you a list of roads. It happened last week on holidays near Wales and it happens on the journey home and pretty much everywhere I travel. It happens at exactly 0.6 miles from a turn and just says, "Turn Right". Sorry I can't be more descriptive than that really.

[d-iivil]

Worst of all. You can't revert back to MM9 because it cannot be activated. And using v10 maps in MM9 fails. This means we're stuck with an disfunctional product untill the update.

Yeah.. noticed that also.

Come on Sygic! Pusing new product on the markets before the previous is fixed is just pure cashing! And you guys come here and ADMIT that there will be delay for the fix because you are so busy on pusing new (propably unfinished) product on the market so you can get more income from customers. Too bad that propably the existing customers won't buy the "Aura" based on their experiences with SMM10... did you ever think that?

[cesarcesar]

Still very glad i haven't upgraded to v10. Though i have to thank Sygic for this since they still havnt given me upgraded app and maps for v10 Europe. They gave me it for v10 USA, but... I live in Germany!

[cesarcesar]

Sygic,

Where is my v10 Europe Maps??? Sent two emails with no reply!!!

[DrWilken]

Sygic,

Where is my v10 Europe Maps??? Sent two emails with no reply!!!

I don't know if You're using the OVI version in Germany, but I am. And SM10 still hasn't showed up in OVI (at least not in Denmark).

[cesarcesar]

I don't know if You're using the OVI version in Germany, but I am. And SM10 still hasn't showed up in OVI (at least not in Denmark).

I am not using the OVI version.

[DrWilken]

I am not using the OVI version.

OK, just checking... :)

[deadmalc]

I've not had any massive problems with v10.
Yes it does need sorting out with respect to power usage and responsiveness, but it is nicer than v9.

[Andrew_b]

What happened to user "SygicSupport" who has been registered for much longer than "Sygic Support"?

This looks dodgy. New user with 1 post asking for IMEI numbers?

[cardiff-blues]

What happened to user "SygicSupport" who has been registered for much longer than "Sygic Support"?

This looks dodgy. New user with 1 post asking for IMEI numbers?

It's not dodgy. The imei numbers are being sent to the sygic support email address.

[SygicSupport]

Yeah.. noticed that also.

Come on Sygic! Pusing new product on the markets before the previous is fixed is just pure cashing! And you guys come here and ADMIT that there will be delay for the fix because you are so busy on pusing new (propably unfinished) product on the market so you can get more income from customers. Too bad that propably the existing customers won't buy the "Aura" based on their experiences with SMM10... did you ever think that?

Thank you, noted. We are working on fixes for Mobile Maps.

But please notice one thing - with so many customers spread over continents, it is very difficult to get to a status where every single customer will be totally happy with the product. Furthermore, our customers would not be comfortable if we only provided fixes to existing products and never come up with something new.

But obviously, fixes are top priority and we are focusing on them. Stay tuned.

Thank you.

[SygicSupport]

Hi,

we are happy to announce an early "public" beta of both:

Mobile Maps 10 update and Aura for Maemo.


To apply for the program you have to send us an email to :

support<at>sygic.com

and send us your IMEI and area where you live.


We will choose only ten testers per country and winners will receive a note with download link.

Good luck ! Thank you.

Sygic Support.

To all,

attention, this has not been posted by Sygic. Please do not send emails with your imei to support at sygic.com.

Our support is now snowed under with emails which responded to the above request. Responding to your inquiry may take longer due to the load. Apologies.

Thank you.

[Andrew_b]

It's not dodgy. The imei numbers are being sent to the sygic support email address.

A timely apology for slamming my instinct for smelling a rat will be accepted...

[cardiff-blues]

Yes apologies. I noted the email address was correct so couldn't see that it was false. There you go. Here's your apology!

[Andrew_b]

Accepted with good grace! You are a gentleman, sir.

[CptSupermarket]

Upgraded to this about a week and a half ago. didnt notice any problems until using this to drive from colchester to liverpool and back last week. about 10 freezes and phone reboots needed for a pretty simple 8hr (there and back) drive. fortunately i know my way pretty much but seriously this is **** compared to v9! sort it out, cant believe i paid for this and cant go back to previous version!

[cardiff-blues]

Hi,

can you please let us know where exactly this is happening? A to B and on which road. And ideally also before which intersection / right turn this is happening. This will help us investigate the issue.

Also, which instruction voice do you use?

Thank you.

Sygic Support.

Not sure why but am not getting email notifications of updates for this thread.

Anyhow, It happens everywhere I travel so can't give you a list of roads. It happened last week on holidays near Wales and it happens on the journey home and pretty much everywhere I travel. It happens at exactly 0.6 miles from a turn and just says, "Turn Right". Sorry I can't be more descriptive than that really.

Got to admit that Sygic Suport isn't exactly swift. I have contacted them officially on their website and replied here and still not had any meaningful response other than, "can you please let us know where exactly this is happening? "

Sygic: it happens everywhere. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Andrew_b]

I just thought I'd add my two pence. Same here, the last three trips to different locations in the UK were all the same, constant freezing, crashing, signal loss, re-boots. Also the same issue with voice guidance on distance to route changes. At 0.6 miles the voice demands "Turn left" instead of "after 0.6 miles, turn left". The count down to the direction change continues with no distance instructions, just further demands to turn, go over roundabout, keep right, whatever. This is quite a problem if you rely mainly on voice guidance. I now have to keep my eyes on the screen to check the distance on the display in order to avoid taking a wrong turn. This is dangerous, very dangerous. I'm using the English female voice, don't fancy a camp American telling me where to go! Distances are set to miles and yards.

The functionality of this latest v10 is in my view actually worse than the updated v9. As a voice guided mapping program, v10 is a fail, whereas v9 was completely usable, if a bit erratic on its route choices.

[cardiff-blues]

Glad to hear that it's not me being totally mad with the 0.6 mile Voice instruction.:)

[casper27]

I had the same issue with turning. It just said turn right very abrumtly.
I solved this by changing voices from the female UK voice to the male UK voice. It now gives the whole "In 600 metres turn right".

I have to agree with most peoples comments on here though V9 updated did not have half as many bugs. The new features in V10 are nice but seem to have been played off in terms of functionality.

[Strayer]

Mhh... I'm currently trying to install the SMM10 Trial via Ovi Store, but it always tries to install version 9.

Is it still not approved by Nokia? If it matters - I'm in germany and this is my apt sources.list:

deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./
deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./
deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle1.2/ovi/ ./
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.2 free non-free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free non-free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing fremantle free non-free

[Andrew_b]

Thanks for the tip Casper27. I hadn't looked at the new voice options in v10 and 'Simon' sounds okay compared to v9's 'Lucien' male voice. I'll give it a bash on my next trip, can't say I'll be switching to kilometres and metres though, and this may be the root of the problem. Fingers crossed it isn't.

Now, if only it didn't keep crashing every few miles. I nearly picked up a speed camera last night because I hadn't noticed it had frozen on the A30 back from Cornwall...

[sacal]

Any news / date of a v10 update ?

This new v10 needs a lot of processing power and drains the battery really fast.
When in use the drive process is at 75% cpu most of the time!

I don't know if it is only in my system but using sygic v10 for an hour reduced my full charged battery to 50%.
With v9 i could use it for more than 3 hours.

[YoDude]

Thanks for the tip Casper27. I hadn't looked at the new voice options in v10 and 'Simon' sounds okay compared to v9's 'Lucien' male voice. I'll give it a bash on my next trip, can't say I'll be switching to kilometres and metres though, and this may be the root of the problem. Fingers crossed it isn't.

Now, if only it didn't keep crashing every few miles. I nearly picked up a speed camera last night because I hadn't noticed it had frozen on the A30 back from Cornwall...

Most of the issues I reported earlier have settled down or went away completely when I disabled all sound from MM10's settings menu.
This is not an acceptable solution but it has made the ordeal more reliable.
Maemo made some changes to how it handles sound in PR1.2. This problem was also present in MM9 for me as well, after the PR1.2 upgrade.

Another thing I learned when pulling together custom POI's in MM9 was that this app will also freeze when bad poi data is used. The POI collection would install with no indications of a problem until a POI with bad info like a "&" or some other character in a label came into view on the screen them bam, the dang thing would lock up.

I'm also thinking if this problem persists in MM10 after disabling sound, The only POI's that were added by Sygic that are different in MM10 are the speed cameras.

If it seems to freeze up only when a certain speed camera icon is on the screen, try disabling the new speed camera feature. Like I tried to say earlier in this post, if the POI data is correct it won't freeze up. so even if you have seen and have used the speed cams in the past on other routes, it does not guarantee that all speed camera's in the data base are correct.

I'm just saying note all screen, hildon notifications, and sound events when a freeze up occurs and maybe Sygic can sort it all out. :)

BTW, I also know that this is no consolation for those who expected to have all of these features function for the price that they paid. However, some of us paid 3 times as much for WayFinder on the N800 & N810 and even with these features disabled, MM10 is easily twice as good.

Navicore, then Wayfinder after taking our money, was never heard from again. Sygic at least has maintained a presence on our forum and continues to provide upgrades and support... and that's a good thing.

I also think that because of Hildon's peculiarities (particularly how it handles events); TomTom, Navigon, Co-Pilot, or any other navigation software ported to the N900 would have some of these same difficulties. I doubt that they would have devoted as much time and energy as Sygic has, getting up close and personal with its users on this board. :)

But hey, I'm just some dude surfin' the intertubes and this is just my opinion. :)

It is also my opinion Sygic Support dudes, that time should be spent understanding what changes were made by Maemo with regard to sound in PR1.2. Also, your POI plug-in needs help as it should be able to ignore/handle bogus or malformed data without a crash.

[ssjtoma]

BTW, I also know that this is no consolation for those who expected to have all of these features function for the price that they paid. However, some of us paid 3 times as much for WayFinder on the N800 & N810 and even with these features disabled, MM10 is easily twice as good.


Oh I have to disagree with that. WayFinder Navigator worked very well either though they never released any new versions. Sygic is through at least 2 major and some minor upgrades and it still barely works. I can't even type in an address after I start it up as it eats anywhere between 90-98% of the CPU. Already had crash to desktop with it just sitting on my desk. It's pathetic.

Also, the new "full screen feature" would be great if you could still get access to your apps running in the background - music player aka. Although considering how much CPU it uses I guess it makes no difference.

I'm strongly considering swapping back to MM9 cause this is so frustrating or just using my good old N810 with WayFinder for navigation..

[jsbigs]

Any news / date of a v10 update ?

This new v10 needs a lot of processing power and drains the battery really fast.
When in use the drive process is at 75% cpu most of the time!

I don't know if it is only in my system but using sygic v10 for an hour reduced my full charged battery to 50%.
With v9 i could use it for more than 3 hours.

Definitely a problem for me as well. Even when I have the N900 plugged into the car charger while driving with MM10 running, I unplug the phone when I reach my destination and have less of a charge than when I started!

[gkosters]

Almost a month without a proper functioning navigator.

[slewis1972]

has anyone the catalogue/repo I can add to get updates. Just had to do a fresh install and now missing it.

Cheers

[DrWilken]

has anyone the catalogue/repo I can add to get updates. Just had to do a fresh install and now missing it.

Cheers
A Google Search ("sygic maemo update repository") found this (http://www.sygic.com/maemo_update_lightbox2.htm)... :)

[gkosters]

The bugfix update is live, check your mail

[cevenn]

Faster, but still no Traffic...:(

[bockersjv]

Installed update and works fine, however one of the changes was :-
- Exit button moved to first menu page in order to make it easier to exit the app
But it has not moved and is still on the secod page :confused:

[spanner]

Can anyone confirm:

1) Start writing an SMS using the keyboard
2) Start SMM10
3) Press ctrl-backspace and return to the SMS
4) Keyboard input no longer works

This isn't unique to SMS writing, it seems SMM10 screws up keyboard handling. :mad:

It's one step forward, two steps back with Sygic at the moment. With this bug and the no-voice-navigation-with-screen-locked bug, we're still not back up to SMM9 functionality yet.

[shadowjk]

Yes, your keypresses actually go into smm10. When you switch to x-terminal you can actually see the cursor is first a filled rectangle, and when smm10 takes input focus the cursor in x-terminal is no longer filled.

The no-navigation with locked screen is probably an Ovi requirement.

[vonbraun66]

Can anyone confirm:

1) Start writing an SMS using the keyboard
2) Start SMM10
3) Press ctrl-backspace and return to the SMS
4) Keyboard input no longer works

This isn't unique to SMS writing, it seems SMM10 screws up keyboard handling. :mad:

It's one step forward, two steps back with Sygic at the moment. With this bug and the no-voice-navigation-with-screen-locked bug, we're still not back up to SMM9 functionality yet.

Can confirm this too. When I try to type an email in the same time, there is no problem with the keyboard at that moment.

[spanner]

When I try to type an email in the same time, there is no problem with the keyboard at that moment.

Switch back & forward between SMM10 and your email, and do a couple of taps in the SMM10 window. You'll lose keyboard input to your email soon enough (I just did, anyway).

[vonbraun66]

Switch back & forward between SMM10 and your email, and do a couple of taps in the SMM10 window. You'll lose keyboard input to your email soon enough (I just did, anyway).

You're right ! Seems like Sygic 10 hijacks the keyboard.

[cardiff-blues]

Still has the problem of 'TURN LEFT' even if the turn is 1/2 a mile away. It doesn't say turn left in 900yards or whatever which sounds like it is missing some voice files for the UK Woman's voice. Works fine with the Ozzy woman though.

ALso, there is still the annoying - 'Go straight over the roundabout - take the third exit'. In fact that turn or exit could be first, second, third, fourth or whatever. It always says go straight over the roundabout.

[spanner]

Still has the problem of 'TURN LEFT' even if the turn is 1/2 a mile away. It doesn't say turn left in 900yards or whatever which sounds like it is missing some voice files for the UK Woman's voice. Works fine with the Ozzy woman though.

Didn't realise you were using the female UK voice... I just tried it, and you're totally right. It's unusable. Exactly as you describe. The strange thing is, it can't be missing the relevant file, because when you choose the 'UK Emma' voice, she actually says 'in 200 yards, turn right'. Maybe the relevant clip is too long or something.
Male voice ('Simon') is fine.

ALso, there is still the annoying - 'Go straight over the roundabout - take the third exit'. In fact that turn or exit could be first, second, third, fourth or whatever. It always says go straight over the roundabout.

I'm used to that by now... you just got to take a glance at the map or get good at counting exits.

[shadowjk]

Heh. I used emma voice, but she was using metres just fine.. maybe she's a fan of metric system :)

[spanner]

The no-navigation with locked screen is probably an Ovi requirement.

if that's true, it's an utterly brain-dead requirement. imagine if you couldn't play MP3s with the screen locked. To be able to use SMM (in a single earphone) while cycling is really useful.

The SMM9 update (a few months after the initial SMM9 release) enabled navigation with the screen locked. So I'm hoping that this is just a regression.

[ddiscodave]

i am having issues with this newest updateas well and i wonder if any of u guys might have fixes.

1 crashing mid-trip
2 cannot minimize screen (i have to hit the power button to switch to phone - seriously fkn annoying) app appears in full screen
3 voices stull stutter worse than ever
4 app seems to be really power hungry

[spanner]

2 cannot minimize screen (i have to hit the power button to switch to phone - seriously fkn annoying) app appears in full screen

For me, I like fullscreen & don't mind hitting ctrl-backspace to switch applications. But you should check out this post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=816241&postcount=48) to disable fullscreen.

[KGreb]

I took a trip over the weekend and decided to test the latest Sygic MM10 build vs. a $99 Garmin unit. Garmin wins by a landslide due to many issues seen with MM10.

1. Once a route was set, Sygic crashed every 1.5 -2 hours on the 9 hour drive. No reasoning found.

2. Very poor routings. MM10 seems to have a huge preference for interstate highways, even when they are not the fastest route. It continually suggested a route which would have added 3 hours and 200+ miles to my trip.

3. Search function is heavily limited because of reliance on counties. You must select a city in a specific county - but what about cities which are in multiple counties? Houston, TX is in four counties - if you don't know the county of your destination, you are out of luck. Previously reported as SW bug, but still latent.

4. Performance issues - stuttering voice and load so high that incoming phone calls could not be accepted

I'm almost at the point to go back to Ovi Maps; despite no turn-by-turn, it doesn't crash for me and the routings are not garbage.

[cardiff-blues]

Has anyone noticed the ETA time is not as accurate as it used to be. In the previous versions I used to find it quite accurate on journeys but now I am noticing that it is way out.

[dashti]

it's frezzez to me
and it's looks cool the new vertion

[YoDude]

Has anyone noticed the ETA time is not as accurate as it used to be. In the previous versions I used to find it quite accurate on journeys but now I am noticing that it is way out.

Yes I noticed this too.

I just got back from a 700 mi journey (both ways) and the ETA was consistant... but consistently wrong. :(

Sygic also stopped responding @ approximately 5 hours into the trip. I use the camera button to minimize the thing and when I did this time a notification popped up stating I didn't have enough memory to open the camera app! :eek:

The only other app running was Instinctiv as a music player.

To eliminate Instinctive as a culprit, on the way home I used the N900's media player for music instead. At about 5 hours the same thing happened.

Sygic has a memory problem and it hogs resources and doesn't give them back. Earlier in this thread someone confirmed that the text input box in other programs doesn't work as expected while Sygic is running. The same thing happens with the volume slider.

If you have the option to use the volume rocker for "zoom" enabled in the browser, it will not work with Sygic running in the background. It instead reverts to a volume control while using the browser regardless of the settings used.

I have attached a couple of images where I was sitting at a ferry terminal and Sygic would not recognize it and continued to route me on dry land.

The only way I could get the ferry recognized was to select "alternate route" but even then it would only suggest the ferry if I selected "avoid traffic delays" :confused:

[ddiscodave]

I was using it yesterday myself and i was so frustrated overall with the not only my n900 but this SHITgic as well......

1 - the phone (while using sygic) was so hot that I think the extreme heat began to make the phone misfire and eventually lock up.
2 - I was in a real pinch having gotten lost and I needed the program to perform well under fire and OF COURSE it DID NOT (sygic are you reading this???????????) it took over 10 minutes for me to lock in on a satellite and then the keyboard stopped working.
3 - once i got the signal and plugged in the destination, sygic would randomly attempt to redirect me or tell me to make a u-turn (i believe this had something to do with the heat.... btw, ended up being forced to rig up the phone to my a/c to keep it cool)

this is UNACCEPTABLE and as much as i love my n900, it's nonsense like this that really makes me want to just get rid of this thing. i know lots of people with other devices who NEVER have issues with them. N E V E R !!!!!!!! they open apps that work, their phones dont burn them, they can simply rely on these devices. for a $500 device with a $65 map program in it, i am so disgusted with it all. thank you for reading. share your issues if yours are similar to mine.

[avim]

I upgraded to MM10 and suddenly 3 of my favorites are not precise anymore. With MM9 my home location was accurate. With MM10 I am at home but the sygic shows another 40 meter. As far as I can tell my house did not move in last 24 hours.

[d-iivil]

For all you people who are suffering crashes with MM10;
try disabling audio from sygic and also change backlight behaviour to system default from sygic's advanced settings.

Those worked for me.

[ddiscodave]

For all you people who are suffering crashes with MM10;
try disabling audio from sygic and also change backlight behaviour to system default from sygic's advanced settings.

Those worked for me.

disabling audio??? you mean killing the turn by turn????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[canonjon]

I have tried the MM10 during this weekend and the program stopped working four times. I had to close the program through the option close the current program and after that I had to restart the phone to get MM10 to start working again. Three of the four times I had Titan´s OC with ULV and 250 900 loaded. The fourth time it seemed that I lost the gps signal and the MM10 totally frooze. To me it felt like MM10 worked better without Titan´s OC kernel loaded. I felt that there was some problem with the online services soo I put the them offline and the program felt more stabile. Because of no solid evidence all the problems and solutions are more of a feeling then real cause and effect.

I had no problem with the estimateted time of arrival, it changed during my trip after a long stop or after I drove too fast for a time. It was two minutes of and for me that´s ok for a estimateted time. I used the fastest route option and that worked ok.

[spanner]

Sygic claimed "GPS signal lost" on me this weekend, despite having been navigating happily for 20 mins or so.

So I smell a rat and pull over. I ctrl-backspace to the dashboard and sure enough - no GPS icon (flashing or otherwise) to indicate that a program is trying to get a lock.

Starting location-test-gui, I get a lock almost instantly. Switch back to Sygic and surprise! We're back on track.

Thanks Sygic for crapping out at a critical time & getting me laughed at by a carful of passengers! You guys are really resting on your laurels as the only game in town on the N900.

[excelar8]

I have 2 MAJOR problems with Sygic:

1. Why in the world does it keep telling me to "KEEP RIGHT" when i'm on a straight road! it's a straight road for god's sake, why would i turn left! it does this every so often on a straight path crossing an intersection (and there is no lane to merge into on the left except the left turn queue lane)

2. Why does it keep saying "RAILWAY CROSSING AHEAD"? Sometimes it says that even when there is no railway crossing! also, why would anyone want to know there's a railway crossing ahead, we have eyes, we can see one ahead! Can we turn this off?

how can we fix these issues, or are these bugs yet to be fixed?

[DrWilken]

I have 2 MAJOR problems with Sygic:

1. Why in the world does it keep telling me to "KEEP RIGHT" when i'm on a straight road! it's a straight road for god's sake, why would i turn left! it does this every so often on a straight path crossing an intersection (and there is no lane to merge into on the left except the left turn queue lane)

2. Why does it keep saying "RAILWAY CROSSING AHEAD"? Sometimes it says that even when there is no railway crossing! also, why would anyone want to know there's a railway crossing ahead, we have eyes, we can see one ahead! Can we turn this off?

how can we fix these issues, or are these bugs yet to be fixed?

That's probably some errors in the map You're using. Contact Sygic. You're reporting will be appreciated, I guess... ;)

You can disable the railway warnings under Settings -> Advanced Settings... :)

[SygicSupport]

Why in the world does it keep telling me to "KEEP RIGHT" when i'm on a straight road! it's a straight road for god's sake, why would i turn left! it does this every so often on a straight path crossing an intersection (and there is no lane to merge into on the left except the left turn queue lane)

Hi,

can you please send an example where you see this happening? Route with starting point and destination, plus exact intersection. A screen shot may help also.

We need this data in order to be able to simulate such route and so to understand why this is happening.

Thanks a lot.

[excelar8]

Hi,

can you please send an example where you see this happening? Route with starting point and destination, plus exact intersection. A screen shot may help also.

We need this data in order to be able to simulate such route and so to understand why this is happening.

Thanks a lot.

This happens way too often that an exact intersection cannot be recalled. But I'll give you an instance when it has happened to me recently:

I navigated from :
11204 170 Street NW
to:
10637 - 124 Street NW
in
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

if you look on the part of the travel path that is a straight path on 111 Avenue, Sygic says "Keep Right" at least once or twice; However on 111 Ave (not sure which interection exactly, but it was a major interection on 111 Ave - possibly crossing 156 street or 149 street) you're supposed to just go straight. There are TWO lanes formed off to the left that are devoted as QUEUES (not part of the flow of straight-flowing traffic) for left-hand turns but Sygic thinks the driver would go to the left for no reason just because these two lanes are formed (probably on the Sygic Maps) so it tells you to keep right.

I attached a quickly drawn schematic diagram, shown below, on paint to outline what it looks like with my car going straight (on 111 ave) through the intersection, but Sygic tells me to "keep right". Sygic does this through basically through every intersection with left queue lanes formed, which is why it is very often and extremely annoying.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs451.ash2/72424_490127141256_548236256_7329764_7448434_n.jpg

[ioan]

Definitely a problem for me as well. Even when I have the N900 plugged into the car charger while driving with MM10 running, I unplug the phone when I reach my destination and have less of a charge than when I started!

The car charger doesn't work while Sygic 10 is running. I hope they fix this fast.

[rajil.s]

Most the contact addresses from phonebook in Sygic show newline character "\n". Due to this sygic doesnt recognise the address. Is there any way to remove it?

[Kenny1001]

I can't open sygic 9 or 10, he closes them directly

[Crogge]

I use Sygic often since months now and I'm quite satisfied with it. The only issue which is quite annoying are the crashes, if you use it 1-2 hours the chance is around 90% that it will crash for unknown reasons. It takes only 2-3 seconds to restart Sygic 10 but its still annoying while you are driving.

I asked other N900 users which I know personally and they have similiar issues, other apps are running just fine including ones which use the GPS module.

[MaemoJirka]

I can't open sygic 9 or 10, he closes them directly

Sygic must be in installed on root 32GB storage,not on the memory card!

[Carlito]

Is it possible to sort the contacts by last name?

[rash.m2k]

Stupid sygic routing algorithm.

Going from Swindon to Guildford - by creating a specific route, via Newbury and M3 Junction 4.

Sygic does NOT allow you to take the exit at junction 4 - it just does not seem to recognise that there is a junction there!!!!

Google maps does this perfectly fine!

My previous GPS app was route66. A fantastic application, with very very clear instructions.

Perhaps you should see how Route66 works Sygic, then you can learn something from them.

rather than saying turn left randomly you need to say, in 500 yards or 1 mile etc.

WTF is it with 'go straight over the roundabout' - that gets seriously annoying, we only need to know the exit we need to take and a nice map shown.

Oh and the backlight goes off in Sygic - even though I've asked it to stay on!!! Very annoying!

[rajil.s]

Stupid sygic routing algorithm.

Going from Swindon to Guildford - by creating a specific route, via Newbury and M3 Junction 4.

Sygic does NOT allow you to take the exit at junction 4 - it just does not seem to recognise that there is a junction there!!!!

Google maps does this perfectly fine!

My previous GPS app was route66. A fantastic application, with very very clear instructions.

Perhaps you should see how Route66 works Sygic, then you can learn something from them.

rather than saying turn left randomly you need to say, in 500 yards or 1 mile etc.

WTF is it with 'go straight over the roundabout' - that gets seriously annoying, we only need to know the exit we need to take and a nice map shown.

Oh and the backlight goes off in Sygic - even though I've asked it to stay on!!! Very annoying!

Might be useful if you email Sygic about this. They could then fix these bugs.

[mivoligo]

rather than saying turn left randomly you need to say, in 500 yards or 1 mile etc.

Change voice to the English guy. He says distance to turn. :)


Oh and the backlight goes off in Sygic - even though I've asked it to stay on!!! Very annoying!

It does work perfectly for me.

[AgogData]

why can't we navigate by our finger through the map like OVI maps ?when i touch sygic screen it opens the options, so if i wanna see the name of the streets surrounding or whats ahead of me i have to keep pressing ( - )

[rash.m2k]

Change voice to the English guy. He says distance to turn. :)



It does work perfectly for me.

english guy talks too fast, like hes the one in a rush.

[gazza_d]

I have sygic MM10 installed, but have not used for a couple of weeks. Today it is just reporting "No GPS Signal" Ovi Maps is tacking the GPS fine, and reporting a decent strength.

I have stopped and restarted MM10 a couple of times, and the phone was only rebooted yesterday.

Any ideas anyone?

[fnordianslip]

I've had a number of occasions now when Sygic stops updating the moving map, but continues to give voice guidance. For example, it might tell me to take a particular turn from a roundabout, but keeps on showing me the same straight road. The GPS is obviously still working, as the app knows that I'm approaching a roundabout, and the small graphic of the roundabout appears in the corner.

Quitting and restarting Sygic Maps restores normal operation, but the problem has happened more than once in a 2 hour journey, and on multiple occasions.

Oh, and the speed display doesn't get updated either when this problem occurs (I noticed this when trying to stick to the speed limit in an area with average speed cameras).

[maxximuscool]

while opened up Sygic in full screen, Ctrl + backspace, you cannot use text messaage input box until you click on the contact icon or close the message. This is an annoying bug with the latest Sygic.

[dashti]

speed camera sounds not works :\
i edit sitting to make it work ( when i press show map i see the cameras but in the roud not )
the beep for the cameras not work why ?

[dashti]

8.16 is the last one ?

[geojoking]

I don't know why, but more and more often, Sygic crashes unexpectedly.

It crashed when I open the application, after a few seconds. If it doesn't, it crashes when it compiles a route.

I don't know why, can someone help?

[AndyNokia232]

I have sygic MM10 installed, but have not used for a couple of weeks. Today it is just reporting "No GPS Signal" Ovi Maps is tacking the GPS fine, and reporting a decent strength.

I have stopped and restarted MM10 a couple of times, and the phone was only rebooted yesterday.

Any ideas anyone?

Sorry mate, I have the same exact problem, MM10 just not finding the signal (after about 5 mins). Open Ovi Maps, under a minute and I'm on. I have emailed Sygic, hopefully I'll get a reasonable response and will post here.

[geojoking]

It's pretty annoying, the app works well, when it works. And it's worked well for a while now, but this evening I could not get it together. It just crashed either immediately after start or when it tried routing. I really hate it ! And the worst part is, there's not alternative to it ! :(

[cesarcesar]

I still also have the same crash issues as well. I have tried to find a pattern to the crashes but have not seen one yet. I really wish it was solved soon though. At least once it crashes, it syncs back up and continues automatically right away once re started.

[daidai67]

I've reported the crash problem tothe support and they told me to disable sound and/or set the energy saving to "default" in the option.

And it works, sygic only crashed one time in 3 week (instead of 1 time in 2 hours)

...but a gps without voice guidance and which turn black once the phone is fully charged is not very usefull ...

They (sygic) told me that they could not reproduce the problem and would not send me a patched version because their phones never crash.

It seems by reading the post that I'm not the only one and if they know that disabling the sound/energy saving make the application more reliable, they MUST be knowing the problem. And I'm not going to be a paying beta tester again when I will switch to meego/android.

[bockersjv]

Mine crashed frequently too. Then it started taking me down b roads and single track lanes and almost stranded me in the middle of nowhere as it just stopped tracking. I now use paper maps again and life is a lot easier.

One other thing that annoys me is how difficult it is to close the application. despite a recent update saying the exit button had moved it is still on a second screen :( I just want one button to turn it off, I do not want to be scrolling screens and having to take my eyes off the road for any length of time.

[excelar8]

Is Sygic Aura coming to N900?

[geojoking]

They said it would, but I really doubt they'll keep their promise. Aura is probably going directly to MeeGo. But maybe it could be backported to N900, if Aura will be built around Qt.

[amaduain]

Well I faced the same crash problems with sygic, I realize it was the overclocked (and undervolted) kernel.
I tried with different configs on kernel-power and it seems that there is no enough power for sygic and the gps module if the value is under 60 for 600 mhz and above.
Please check these threads for more info about kernel-power:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Overclocking#Jakiman.27s_Guide_to_Overclocking_for _Newcomers

http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power

So changing the values on my config for kernel-power and no more hangs with Sygic.

Hope it helps!

[Krachlik]

Crashes occur even on stock kernel, so I don't think that's the reason.

[excelar8]

Sygic 10 always asks to connect to the internet which is annoying because I don't have a data plan.

Does anyone know of a way to stop Sygic from always trying to connect to the internet?

[J4ZZ]

One other thing that annoys me is how difficult it is to close the application. despite a recent update saying the exit button had moved it is still on a second screen :( I just want one button to turn it off, I do not want to be scrolling screens and having to take my eyes off the road for any length of time.

go to */MyDocs/res/skin and open application.skin file with an editor. Then search for mainMenu.menu and sort the entries to your likings.
Mine for example looks like this so the Exit-Button is on first screen, lower right corner.

<menu id="mainMenu.menu"
items="
menu.main.navigateTo
menu.main.browseMap
menu.main.settings
menu.main.viewRoute
menu.main.traffic
menu.main.managePoi
menu.main.memorize
menu.main.exit
menu.main.gpsStatus
menu.main.safetyCamera
menu.main.sharePoints
menu.main.extras

for explanation; The first 4 entries are the entries on 1st screen first line and the next 4 entries are 1st screen second line from the left to the right.

Greetz,

..::J4ZZ::..

[natedog400]

Mine seems to work fine apart from one tiny little issue.... MY FRIGGIN KEYBOARD DON'T WORK. Open smm10 use it, everythin fine. Minimise it and try to do anything with my keyboard and nothin? Is this a joke?? 9 was well better. This is why i use cracked versions otherwise i'd be well pissed off right now :)

[sonofsassquatch]

I've got an issue where mobile maps freezes when it tries to play a navigation comand (say im coming up to a junction, instead of saying turn left, it just freezes). nothing happens. i have to press the power button and close the program.

It works if i disable sound but that kinda defeats the object of voice navigation.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled but the same thing happens.
Is reflashing an option?

[Crogge]

I have the problem that Sygic is opening every 5-15 minutes the connection manager, disabling "A-GPS" is solving this problem but the "sat fix" is taking up to 20 minutes then so its not an acceptable solution.

Is there any way to disable the connection manager while Sygic is running?

Except that Sygic is pretty good running (It is just crashing every few hours once but thats acceptable~).