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extendedping
2010-09-01, 00:26
http://www.netbooknews.com/7444/wetab-os-based-on-meego/
I think I'd have to give it a try if so...
Would be a great start form Meego as it evidently has generated more interest in Germany then the ipad...
Didn't they already change the WeTab OS already once before? Didn't it go from Windows 7 (shown) to Linux based (reported) to Android based (rumored) to now... MeeGo based (rumored)?
Hell, instead of rumors, bring the damn thing out... until then, vaporware.
extendedping
2010-09-01, 01:13
Didn't they already change the WeTab OS already once before? Didn't it go from Windows 7 (shown) to Linux based (reported) to Android based (rumored) to now... MeeGo based (rumored)?
Hell, instead of rumors, bring the damn thing out... until then, vaporware.
Its like the notion ink...I'll believe it when I see it. But that would be really great, I just hope it would not be some really locked down version of linux as I want to learn command line stuff (the reason I got my n900 as well).
vielfrass
2010-09-03, 08:29
It is confirmed:
It will have MeeGo!
German news:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Das-WeTab-basiert-auf-MeeGo-1071855.html
English news:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardware/30178/wetab-116-inch-tablet-confirmed-running-meego
Hands on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdNBTwHxWk
Odd_gunnic
2010-09-03, 13:05
So will it be any easier to revert back to the vanilla UX? Thats the UX that caught my eye, that WeTab UX does not look catchy.
maxximuscool
2010-09-03, 13:20
Kudo to Intel :)
And WeTab
extendedping
2010-09-03, 13:27
meego should get going with a bang in this case as there are more orders for the wetab then the ipad in Germany right now.
So will it be any easier to revert back to the vanilla UX? Thats the UX that caught my eye, that WeTab UX does not look catchy.
I hope so too
Nice!
Thinking about it, it does make a lot of sense to use Meego for tablets.
After all, Meego is simply Linux with a touch-friendly WM and tools, and it is one of the best options I can think of for slate-PCs:
1. It is more optimized for touch-based UI than windows 7, and lighter on resources so it works better on slow CPUs (such as the ULV atoms).
2. It is better suited for touch interface than any other standard/slightly modified linux we have.
3. While Android is built from ground-up for touch-based devices and is light on resources, and there are a lot of apps for it, most of these apps were designed for phone-size devices, and compiled for ARM. When it comes to Atom-based tablets, there are more ready-to-use linux apps than Android apps.
4. Meego on X86 can just run most linux apps, with a minimal (if any) porting effort, so the users can have both touch-optimized meego/QT apps as well as a wider selection of non-touch-optimized but already available linux software. It is the best available compromise compromise between both worlds.
vivainio
2010-09-03, 14:04
I imagine 12" tablet will be quite inspiring target for QML applications. Also, if you have extra cash and are pondering buying several tablets, 12" + 5"/7" is a much better deal than 10" + 5"/7".
dtergens
2010-09-06, 19:52
nice video here : http://maemos.ru/2010/09/06/wetab-na-baze-meego-v-nemeckom-mediamarkt-19-sentyabrya/
Wepad Looks Awesome it’s already on sale Amazon Germany in-depth video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA
Ok... won't lie. The WeTab is starting to look like something I'd invest in for my pending tablet purchase.
You guys don't like the UI, I actually like it. Just seemed a bit... slow in places (camera for instance).
does not seem like real MeeGo to me not once have they said this is running MeeGo.
They call it WeTab OS based on MeeGO probably b/c there is no compatibility with MeeGo API so they not allowed to call it MeeGo
So given this beast is running x86, are we going to see a full OpenGL running on it? Or simply GLES? Meaning porting required for any game.
Ok... won't lie. The WeTab is starting to look like something I'd invest in for my pending tablet purchase.
You guys don't like the UI, I actually like it. Just seemed a bit... slow in places (camera for instance).
My beef with it is that it does not seem to have multi touch gestures. A previous video shows that you need zoom icons on the side bar to zoom in and out. These features were shown in the vanilla meego implementation and would have loved if it was ported to wetab as well
zehjotkah
2010-09-07, 06:55
Last Friday I met Helmut, the Managing Director and Speaker of the Management Board (he founded neofonie, the company behind the WeTab).
The WeTab is using MeeGo under the UI, so MeeGo and Qt applications are running without a problem.
It was a really good and smooth experience I have to say.
We will show the WeTab also on the next mobile freidae berlin (http://mobilefreidae.org).
Someone purporting to be from WeTab posted this encouraging post (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1266&page=3) on the Meego forms.
Hi all
Yes we do use MeeGo and it rocks! We use UI framework option and just put our UI on top. Actually it is MeeGo v1.0, but some components are even next to latest builds. So WeTab does support Multitouch, based on the MeeGo Touch Framework.
We support Qt 4.6 and will update to 4.7, once it is stable. Qt is the framework, which we prefer, but nevertheless we support GTK based apps as well as java, flash, air, android apps (last ones are running in a complete android 2.2 in virtualbox).
And by the way, since you have access to the root shell, so you could do what you like..
Cheers
WeTab Team
Someone purporting to be from WeTab posted this encouraging post (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1266&page=3) on the Meego forms.
I think this is an amazing news. I'm very excited about it. It means we can run on WeTab all the best possible applications: MeeGo, Android, Linux, Flash, Java... And think about using Wine on WeTab ;)
This company also anticipated future products by Nokia that will be showed at next Nokia World ;)
so this is running Meego but obviously a custom UI which is a take away from the excellent Tablet UI with Panels that was demoed on the Intel prototype. I would have loved that Panel layout of the standard (or was it Intel's custom UI ?) of Meego better on the WeTab considering it has so much of screen space.
Totally off-topic; however it seems to be yet another MeeGo based product coming out soon. Seems like Nokia's due for an announcement indeed - Amino Media Center (http://bit.ly/8YmhqT).
Hmm.
zehjotkah
2010-09-07, 12:06
so this is running Meego but obviously a custom UI which is a take away from the excellent Tablet UI with Panels that was demoed on the Intel prototype. I would have loved that Panel layout of the standard (or was it Intel's custom UI ?) of Meego better on the WeTab considering it has so much of screen space.
The WeTab's UI is very cool, too.
Totally optimized for use with your thumbs on both sides of the screen.
The WeTab's UI is very cool, too.
Totally optimized for use with your thumbs on both sides of the screen.
Oh, no doubt - in fact the thumbing on both sides is actually a usability increase I realized after watching the video one more ... but for pure looks I would have liked the Panel layout to be present also.
But again its more practical to have a easy usable UI than just a good looking one.
The sceptical side of me is now a little incredulous that the WeTab guys say it will run Java apps, Air, Flash and nearly everything you throw at it. Will wait to see it and believe it.
aironeous
2010-09-07, 15:40
I want one. What stand are they using to hold it up here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA
Where can we buy those?
Here is another 16 minute interview in ....you guessed it - German
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxRQvc67mE&feature=channel
From amazon.de where you can buy it on pre-order (this is translated by babelfish to English):
"In Germany sketched. For all made.
The WeTab is a Tablet PC of the newest generation. By the Internet surf, hp videos look, emails write, music hear - the WeTab puts the world to you to hands. Contrary to closed systems” we “with the WeTab is largely written. Its Web browser supports HTML5, Java and Adobe Flash, so that you can see everything. Its operating system supports all usual file formats, so that it everything to hear and to read be able. And owing to the numerous periphery connections - e.g. USB haven, card reader and HDMI interface - you can attach existing devices simply and play media barrier-free.
Everywhere on-line. With each contract.
No SIM LOCK, a standard windshield frame section plumb bob and with each contract usable: With the WeTab 3G you are on-line, where you want it. By the Internet to surf and emails write you can owing to UMTS also on the way. And if you get lost thereby, the GPS brings you again home.
Outside slim. Inside strongly.
The 29,46cm (11.6 ") Multitouch Breitbildschirm of the WeTab does not only brilliert with a representation of 1366x768 pixels: Owing to 16:9 - you can enjoy format medial contents such as hp videos or magazines optimally.
Back
On the inside 1.66 Ghz an Intel processor as well as 1 gigabyte main memory provide for maximum compatibility and a remarkable performance. Genuine multitasking makes the WeTab operating system possible, which basedly on established technologies and which use of common technologies supports such as Java and Adobe AIR. Hear music, if you surf by the Internet and you jump arbitrary from an application to the next. Without having to take thereby a hand of the equipment - to navigate you can comfortably with the thumbs.
Their messages. Live and personalisiert.
With the WeTab you experience your dearest newspapers and magazines as in the print format - plus all the advantages the digital processing. Their personal messages come into real time to you, erfahrbar for all your senses: Articles read, Podcasts hear, videos look. To be silent from affecting completely.
WeTab applications
The WeTab possesses an open platform and supports established technologies, so that developers in all world can invent applications (Apps) for you. The WeTab net curtain supports the integration of Apps from open net curtains such as Android or Adobe AIR Marketplace. Browse by innumerable applications, which the WeTab net curtain holds ready for you - from the Web radio over the Videotelephonie up to the extensive play collection. With only one click the applications thereby fully automatic for you are installed.
Internet
Experience the Internet like never before
On the WeTab expects you:
Web browser
HTML5 and Flash able browsers. Owing to user-friendly thumb navigation you experience the Internet like never before.
Photo
Raus from the camera, purely in the WeTab: Owing to SD/SDHC Cardreader and USB interface you can your photos directly archive, edit and present.
Hp video
The WeTab supports all usual video formats. In addition you can enjoy your films over an externally attached DVD drive assembly - and in hp -.
Music
Support of all usual formats. Music of internal and of external memory can be played directly on the WeTab.
Internet
EBook reader
The open platform of the WeTab supports the usual eBook formats: ePub, pdf, TXT, Mobipocket, WeBook Premium.
Open Office
The before-installed open Office package integrates text processing, spread-sheet analysis and presentations and supports Microsoft Office formats. Their files can edit you directly from the USB stick.
Search
Integrated universal search with WeFind on the equipment and in external sources.
Tools
From the calendar to the pocket calculator all kinds of useful is already before-installed for you."
extendedping
2010-09-07, 15:58
can you drop to shell? and do stuff as root? probably not right?
The sceptical side of me is now a little incredulous that the WeTab guys say it will run Java apps, Air, Flash and nearly everything you throw at it. Will wait to see it and believe it.
Exactly.
HW actually looks to be pretty damn nice. It's the UI and support that i'm not 100% sure here.
I really don't usually go for these type of smaller company made gadgets and at first i passed this right away, but it is actually looking pretty good. Still a bit hard to jump to a bandwagon as i'm sure we will see some MeeGo tablet loving from bigger boys this year.
aironeous
2010-09-07, 16:16
Wetab Website
http://wetab.mobi/en/shop
Demos of the various aspects of the ui
http://wetab.mobi/en/gallery
Ok well vids don't seem to be working for me on that page but here is their youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/WeTabChannel
So does it come with that nifty stand or not? I wanna know....
Oh just watched their channel that's f'n bad duuuuuuuudde!
With the right side thumb task bar that slides....
That should be a standard option UI that you can chose along with the pre alpha version we saw before.
Here is their facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/WeTab?v=photos
Here is another german youtube hands on vid (part 1 of 2) at some sort of convention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLOcsk971s&feature=related
Part 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPlVoIyeaPM&feature=related
In German comparison to ipad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpF3WOOinpY&feature=related
can you drop to shell? and do stuff as root? probably not right?
Yes, of course
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1266&page=3
extendedping
2010-09-07, 16:59
nice I just hope it is not crippled openbox or whatever it is called on the n900.
aironeous
2010-09-07, 17:23
Delivery has started as of July per this page.
http://wetab.mobi/en/events
It also shows first mass delivery in September so maybe I'll just pre-order from amazon.de
Wepad Looks Awesome it’s already on sale Amazon Germany in-depth video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA
Wow? This has got to be the most annoying review ever? I know what I'm saying, but it also has to end like a question? But I am holding a cool tablet, so you will keep watching me?
Sorry :P I've had many native German-speaking friends who don't speak english like this!
ossipena
2010-09-07, 18:21
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....
X2. This looks great... Uh oh. So much for saving for new mobo, audio card, and speaker system...
EDIT: But I am tempted to wait. Will Nokia be making tablet-hardware paired with MeeGo OS?
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....
LOL Same Here but who Cares :)
zehjotkah
2010-09-08, 05:37
If someone lives near Berlin in Germany, we'll show the WeTab on the next mobile freidae at the c-base in Berlin.
Detailed informations will show up on the mobile freidae's website soon: http://mobilefreidae.org
I guess I know what gadget to buy next. :D
mannakiosk
2010-09-08, 10:06
Without taking the time to try to google it myself....
Has anyone got information on battery life, heat, noise?
twigleaf1976
2010-09-08, 10:56
It's Meego, am I the only one thinking apps? support?
It's Nokia and Intel together on an OS. Intel have never released an OS to market and Nokia released Maemo. Hardly something to shout about.
Yet people are raving about it already and it is yet to survive the wild.
Then again.
http://www.androidpads.co.uk/wetab-android-os-pad/ (sounds like it was based on prototypes)
http://www.frequencycast.co.uk/wetab.html
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32981/wetab-coming-out-in-july (mentions android prototypes)
They cast doubt on it being Meego anyway, so perhaps I might take a look with android on board. If the prototypes actually run android it won't be long till someone releases official android. Which means an app store and support.
Perhaps in a few months you can choose your OS when you buy it. That would be nice.
zehjotkah
2010-09-08, 11:02
Android is included as a VM.
Heat: You can use it in direct sunshine on a hot summer day without problems, thanks to:
noise: there is a fan built-in which will only turn on if needed. I haven't heard it once.
battery life: depends of course on the usage. count with 6 to 8 hours surfing the web over 3G or WLAN.
REMFwhoopitydo
2010-09-08, 11:19
i'm delighted to see a MeeGo tablet arrive, but:
if its going to use x86 i would prefer it to use a dual core atom.
unless there is oodles of power i would prefer ARM for app compatibility.
will this be able to use OVI, and if not where will we get our commercial media/apps/games from?
Jedibeeftrix
2010-09-08, 11:20
i'm delighted to see a MeeGo tablet arrive, but:
if its going to use x86 i would prefer it to use a dual core atom.
unless there is oodles of power i would prefer ARM for app compatibility.
will this be able to use OVI, and if not where will we get our commercial media/apps/games from?
agreed, more questions need answering.
zehjotkah
2010-09-08, 11:34
okay, I try to answer the questions (I'm not working at neofonie, or WeTab GmbH).
First here I'm showing how fast the WeTab is booting (thanks to MeeGo, with Ubuntu this was not possilble) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oy-st6q5DA
Then the questions:
"if its going to use x86 i would prefer it to use a dual core atom."
Yes, it uses an Atom (which is the x86 platform) but no dual core. The hardware is already finished, and there will be no changes to another CPU or similar. The hardware is built by Pegatron.
"unless there is oodles of power i would prefer ARM for app compatibility."
as said...
"will this be able to use OVI, and if not where will we get our commercial media/apps/games from?"
No, as this is no Nokia device. However you'll be able to install Android, Adobe Air and normal MeeGo apps. Also there will be the Intel AppUp Store afaik.
okay, I try to answer the questions (I'm not working at neofonie, or WeTab GmbH).
.
I was starting to believe you worked for them. :D
twigleaf1976
2010-09-08, 13:17
No, as this is no Nokia device. However you'll be able to install Android, Adobe Air and normal MeeGo apps.
Nothing to do with Nokia.
Can do Android apps. (Then at least it has some apps to download)
Does flash.
Has open office (According to one reviewer)
Can work in heat and sunlight.
All looking that much better. :)
No, as this is no Nokia device. However you'll be able to install Android, Adobe Air and normal MeeGo apps. Also there will be the Intel AppUp Store afaik.
Thanks for the info you are providing - helps in clearing some points.
As far as Android concerned - is this an approved Android device - in that will the device have access to thr Android Store - or will it be via .apk's only ?
Since Android is in a VM, I am guessing it wont have access to Android Store - again conjecture on my part.
zehjotkah
2010-09-08, 14:30
Thanks for the info you are providing - helps in clearing some points.
As far as Android concerned - is this an approved Android device - in that will the device have access to thr Android Store - or will it be via .apk's only ?
Since Android is in a VM, I am guessing it wont have access to Android Store - again conjecture on my part.
I don't know.
The VM is not installed yet.
But sounds logic..
Anyways, who wants "java-apps" on a 11 inch screen when it is possible to run Qt and native linux apps?
aironeous
2010-09-08, 22:10
What 3g frequencies does it operate on?
Will it operate on the U.S. T-mobile 3g frequency?
Android is included as a VM.
Heat: You can use it in direct sunshine on a hot summer day without problems,
OK. But (indoors) how hot does it get to the touch?
And, in direct sunlight (or even outside daylight), how visible is the screen?
thanks to:
noise: there is a fan built-in which will only turn on if needed. I haven't heard it once.
battery life: depends of course on the usage. count with 6 to 8 hours surfing the web over 3G or WLAN.
zehjotkah
2010-09-09, 19:35
I've posted an article on my site (http://meetmeego.org) about the WeTab (in German).
You can read it here:
http://meetmeego.org/home/das-wetab-und-meego
mannakiosk
2010-09-12, 09:26
Hmmm... deja vu:
No digital compass? :)
Anyways, who wants "java-apps" on a 11 inch screen when it is possible to run Qt and native linux apps?
I'll have to ask... can anybody really name a definitive list of Qt apps that would push aside the want/hope for Java apps? I have no problem with Java personally; however I do have a problem with naming one Qt app that's ever made me believe in that platform enough to where I'd be a fan - much like many on these boards.
Thanks in advance.
Google Earth, VLC player, Skype desktop
Google Earth, VLC player, Skype desktop
Thank you NvyUs... but I have to ask. Were those native Qt apps or ports of existing C++ (or other) apps because I have those on other operating systems? Of which... I understand Qt also does quite well in regards to other operating systems; but a port just doesn't seem like a proper showcase to me of Qt.
And I don't mind admitting... I might very well be missing something, but I port my own apps from Flex/AIR AS3 to .NET and Java regularly and I wouldn't consider my ports to be indicative of any power or strength of the target programming language as much as I'd consider it proof I could do it.
they was developed using Qt which is why you find them on all desktop OS's. write once run everywhere philosophy as been working for years where those apps are concerned
they was developed using Qt which is why you find them on all desktop OS's. write once run everywhere philosophy as been working for years where those apps are concerned
Ah... gotcha. Didn't know that Maya was built using Qt. That would have shut me the heck up quickly.
Seems Engadget liked the WeTab (http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/neofonie-wetab-hands-on/):
while browsing webpages and tiled apps on the large capacitive screen, using one of the most intuitive, practical touchscreen interfaces we've ever had the pleasure to try
Odd_gunnic
2010-09-15, 04:28
Somewhat offtopic: Intel has gone gold with its appup store, with launch partners such as sega and konami. And meego progress keeps trickling along, seems like everhything should come within focal point by next month.
aironeous
2010-09-15, 05:03
Since it has a sim card slot what 3G frequencies does it us? If not tmobile or AT&T will there be a nam version later? If not can I tether it to my N900? If no to all then no to wetab for me.
extendedping
2010-09-20, 12:17
looks like tomorrow is its release date so we should be getting some real user impressions (mostly in German) soon...Hopefully it will get Meego out of the gate with a bang.
extendedping
2010-09-21, 02:43
Somewhere over the Atlantic in Germany, the wetab has started shipping. This starts nothing or perhaps something really big.
There was a convo going on n WeTab on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/#!/WeTab?v=wall&story_fbid=161368057209150) (in German).
Only one comment in English summarized it and its not very positive.
Damm, is bought via amazon a wetab. But the product isn't ready... There are too many things that won't work in the beginning: android store, multi-touch,a lack of touch-applications,... Hmmm. When will this all work fine, and more important: will it ever work fine?! For a company is it simple: they give a promise, but we don't have any guarantee that the software will ever come :-(
Don't know if its a troll or not.
There was a convo going on n WeTab on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/#!/WeTab?v=wall&story_fbid=161368057209150) (in German).
Only one comment in English summarized it and its not very positive.
Don't know if its a troll or not.
Why would the Android store work with a non-android device or am I missing the point here? Thought this was MeeGo device?
benny1967
2010-09-21, 05:53
There was a convo going on n WeTab on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/#!/WeTab?v=wall&story_fbid=161368057209150) (in German).
Only one comment in English summarized it and its not very positive.
Don't know if its a troll or not.
this sums up everything i read about the product during the last weeks. it's bound to fail. (which is a pity because a lot of people will think it's kind of a meego flagship.)
my personal opinion is that the company behind the wetab never intended to ship a stable product. when you see those people on video, it makes you wonder......
benny1967
2010-09-21, 05:55
Seems Engadget liked the WeTab (http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/neofonie-wetab-hands-on/):
while browsing webpages and tiled apps on the large capacitive screen, using one of the most intuitive, practical touchscreen interfaces we've ever had the pleasure to try
that tells a lot about engadget. "quality journalism" as always. ;)
that tells a lot about engadget. "quality journalism" as always.
At least it is positive exposure on an OS that is derived from an OS we really like on a site that could influence folks that otherwise wouldn't know about MeeGo.
multi touch was not intended for wetab. consumers should not have expected this. webtab is not a nokia tablet rather an intel one. it will also run the android app market and thus will not be a competitor which it would have been if nokia made the tablet.
confusing? hell yes.
Why would the Android store work with a non-android device or am I missing the point here? Thought this was MeeGo device?
I think he thought it was an Android device hence his confusion.
It apparently includes Android running as a VM within MeeGo.
I dont get why there are so many wetab haters on here... Are you all wearing N900-colored-glasses and dooming it pre-emptively?
multi touch was not intended for wetab.
Huh?
webtab is not a nokia tablet rather an intel one. it will also run the android app market and thus will not be a competitor which it would have been if nokia made the tablet.
What does it not being a Nokia tablet have to do with any of this.
Also, it won't run the Android Market because it is not a Google Experience device. Supposedly it supports Android programs, however, but that doesn't mean you're gonna just have access to the store.
short hands on video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC2JLE0Tzw4&feature=player_embedded
longer hands on video, at 2:30 they claim android apps will be run-able "running android with virtual machine on MeeGo"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORG69KA0SPg&feature=player_embedded
It apparently includes Android running as a VM within MeeGo.
Is that possible or are you joking? :confused:
Is that possible or are you joking? :confused:
I read somewhere in the comments that the Android VM is simply VirtualBox. I don't know if that's true, though.
I read somewhere in the comments that the Android VM is simply VirtualBox. I don't know if that's true, though.
Well it is Atom Powered so why wouldn't it possible it's not like they had to get a arm build of Vbox. It should also be able to run PreOS.
mobiledivide
2010-09-22, 06:20
Video of Android on WeTab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo48jHWeWLU
aironeous
2010-09-22, 14:19
Phonedog hands on video says it will ship to the states.
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/wetab-tablet-computer-hands-on/
Looks like Intel is actively pushing this first MeeGo tablet.
Phonedog hands on video says it will ship to the states.
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/wetab-tablet-computer-hands-on/
thanks....
Plays Ogg and FLV out of the box. :)
More technical information (in German) is available here:
http://wetab.mobi/faqs
It is confirmed:
It will have MeeGo!
German news:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Das-WeTab-basiert-auf-MeeGo-1071855.html
English news:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardware/30178/wetab-116-inch-tablet-confirmed-running-meego
Hands on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdNBTwHxWk
Oh no. I have always said that tablets are useless compared with netbooks, And now this, that has passed me by unnoticed.
MeeGo, 3g, WiFi, multitouch. I want one, and I want it now. :)
Oh no. I have always said that tablets are useless compared with netbooks, And now this, that has passed me by unnoticed.
MeeGo, 3g, WiFi, multitouch. I want one, and I want it now. :)
me too......
danramos
2010-09-22, 22:24
Hold the press! Are you implying that Nokia will finally deliver an OS that will play OGG officially?? :) I thought they were all about how OGG will cause legal hellstorm and stuff, remember?
Ogg Theora is the one with all of the "submarine patents" or whatever they're called. Not Ogg Vorbis.
Theora (aka VP2) is the risky one. Though I suppose we're better off using VP8 these days. And Vorbis might be risky, but definitely less so.
Mind you, it won't be Nokia doing this but the MeeGo project, which exists under the Linux Foundation.
I suppose that's a dodge, if there ever was one ;)
Mind you, it won't be Nokia doing this but the MeeGo project, which exists under the Linux Foundation.
And taking it even further away isn't it the manufacturer that will either package them with MeeGo if they so decide, not MeeGo.
And taking it even further away isn't it the manufacturer that will either package them with MeeGo if they so decide, not MeeGo.
Well, the manufacturer may decide to include other codecs. I think Vorbis is part of the base MeeGo standard, so it must be present to be compliant.
Only 9h battery!
Huge disappointment...
Only 9h battery!
Huge disappointment...
Even worse, people reported a battery life time of 4 to 6 hours. :(
Well, it's definitely a @home tablet for "couch potatoe computing".
Even worse, people reported a battery life time of 4 to 6 hours. :(
Well, it's definitely a @home tablet for "couch potatoe computing".
source? ??
Just as a reminder, it's an x86 machine and it has a fan. So, I'm not sure battery life expectations should be too high.
From the specs it seems that it's a netbook in a shell of a tablet. So nothing is really surpising me.
I hope theyre not waiting until the christmas holidays to release the WeTab in the USA, I cant wait that long!
I hope theyre not waiting until the christmas holidays to release the WeTab in the USA, I cant wait that long!
If it takes that long my wild guess is that we will see something better to be announced at least(probably in Meego Conference, November).
I know i'm waiting till the end of this year for sure before i get my MeeGo tablet.
If it takes that long my wild guess is that we will see something better to be announced at least(probably in Meego Conference, November).
I know i'm waiting till the end of this year for sure before i get my MeeGo tablet.
you mean maybe a MeeGo tablet from another manufacturer? Like Nokia? :P I wonder if we will see 'scrollbars' similar to the WeTab on other MeeGo tablets, that would be cool...
Why do you want to wait til the end of the year?
extendedping
2010-09-24, 16:20
if the battery life really blows, I'd wait. who wants a tablet that attaches you to an outlet?
if the battery life really blows, I'd wait. who wants a tablet that attaches you to an outlet?
when im owning noobs with my n900 I dont feel like I have more than 4-6 hours until I need to plug in to an outlet (dare I say less than 4 hours?)... Maybe these figures are the same on the wetab?
source? ??
http://wetab.mobi/en/faqsen -
How long does the rechargeable battery run under normal use conditions?
The battery life for normal use is up to 6 hours.
source? ??
IIRC, it was said somewhere in here:
http://wetab-community.de/forum/
Somebody even complained about the battery running flat after 2h of intensive use. But most people seem to confirm that it's like 6h.
Anyway, I placed my order on Amazon. :D
But still have to wait two to four weeks. Maybe Media Markt will have it earlier.
From the specs it seems that it's a netbook in a shell of a tablet. So nothing is really surpising me.
That's exactly what it is. You can connect mouse and keyboard and work like on a desktop computer with it even. You could even run a full Linux distro chrooted and work with it.
Here's a review of the WeTab with some photos:
http://www.modulopfer.de/?p=22347
And in machine-translated English: :)
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modulopfer.de%2F%3Fp%3D22347
bxbomber
2010-09-26, 15:49
Wow this tablet looks really nice,
so far from the videos i've seen it's everything I want in a tablet, save for the price.
Seems a little to high, maybe they'll come out with something not as pricey at meego conference.
But so far so good, just need a full port of vlc, and i'll be a happy boy.
benny1967
2010-10-06, 08:24
Now that the first units are out, it seems to be one of the biggest disasters in gadget history. the ceo had to resign a few days ago, customers are returning the wetab in huge numbers... what a failure.
the unfortunate thing is that 90% of what makes the device so unpleasant is software. hardware-wise, only the screen seems to be really problematic because you need to look at it from a certain angle. apart from this, the device reported to be heavy and loud (because of the fans), but that shouldn't be that much of a problem.
i wonder if intel knew about the sorry state of the software before they chose to promote this as the first meego tablet available.
wondering if ubuntu 10.10 with multitouch support would work on this hardware. I guess the hardware is still reasonable.
Software is something that can be fixed by updates. Hardware not so much. Since launch, the WeTab has had updates every few days, so the developers are really active.
People reportedly also managed to run Windows 7 on the WeTab, so Ubuntu ought to work, too. The hardware is the same as the Canadian ExoPC running Windows 7.
*still waiting for my ordered WeTab to arrive...*
benny1967
2010-10-06, 11:50
Software is something that can be fixed by updates. Hardware not so much.
You're right, and in fact I don't rule out that I get one myself once they're cheaper (which they'll be very soon, as things go). I don't think it's a good product - but it's a good hardware to play with... and after all, we know it's MeeGo-compatible hardware.
What I find discouraging is how incomplete the product was (and still is) when they started shipping. It's the first impression that counts, and this was not only the first impression for the wetab, it was also the first impression for MeeGo. And it wasn't a good one. MeeGo would have deserved something better IMHO.
You're right, and in fact I don't rule out that I get one myself once they're cheaper (which they'll be very soon, as things go). I don't think it's a good product - but it's a good hardware to play with... and after all, we know it's MeeGo-compatible hardware.
Since the alternative tablets all run Android or Win7, the WeTab is the only one at the moment that seems acceptable for me. Running on the MeeGo core is a bonus.
It took a week for hackers to put Win7 on it. I suppose it will have a great future in hackers' hands, just like the N900.
What I find discouraging is how incomplete the product was (and still is) when they started shipping. It's the first impression that counts, and this was not only the first impression for the wetab, it was also the first impression for MeeGo. And it wasn't a good one. MeeGo would have deserved something better IMHO.
I fully agree. Luckily regular people won't associate MeeGo with WeTab. It's not even printed on the box, it's WeTab OS. And MeeGo will look totally different anyway.
My We just arrived and is now charging and updating. :)
Let's see how good or crappy it really is.
benny1967
2010-10-06, 12:17
My We just arrived and is now charging and updating. :)
Let's see how good or crappy it really is.
... and how many updates you'll receive. i really hope they'll get it to an acceptable state during the next 3-4 months.
and then there's still the hope that a meego appstore will solve some problems with the overall usefulness of the thing. ;)
It might be a good thing that you can't initially start the WeTab without being up to date. It will automatically drag the latest updates when switching on the first time. This took like 15 minutes for me.
And they have ChangeLogs for updates, unlike Nokia. :)
Stskeeps
2010-10-06, 12:56
It might be a good thing that you can't initially start the WeTab without being up to date. It will automatically drag the latest updates when switching on the first time. This took like 15 minutes for me.
If we exclude the crappy OS, how is the hardware? Touchscreen response is probably bad due to the crap Xorg setup they have (I saw some dumps), but fixable if someone with half a brain spends some time on it.
And got any info on how they got Win7 booting?
If we exclude the crappy OS, how is the hardware? Touchscreen response is probably bad due to the crap Xorg setup they have (I saw some dumps), but fixable if someone with half a brain spends some time on it.
The touchscreen is capacitive and thus it's kinda hard to hit small targets.
The display quality _highly_ depends on the vertical viewing angle. But you can turn the display around if you want to lay the tablet on a table in front of you. The accelerometers turn the screen.
The touchscreen has multitouch (I've heard rumours that this would be disabled in the US thanks to Apple, though). Pinch-to-zoom does work in the browser, but doesn't zoom smoothly. It basically just toggles between zoomed and unzoomed. Double-tapping does the same (like on N900).
Touch screen response is actually quite good, but it always depends on the application how responsive it is.
The fan in the device is constantly running, but mostly silent like in a netbook. It _is_ a netbook without keyboard after all.
The onscreen keyboard is good.
I can't comment on battery life yet.
There's a HD accelerator in the 3G version and it got HDMI out, but I haven't tested those yet. The media player is Banshee like on netbook MeeGo.
Sound volume can only be regulated by software. There are no hardware controls.
The back of the device is rubbered so it doesn't slip away or out of your hands.
And got any info on how they got Win7 booting?
By tinkering with the boot loader. The root shell is an app in the market, and after accepting that you're going to lose your software warranty, you have a terminal and can become root.
extendedping
2010-10-06, 13:43
I expected more out of the Germans. The WeSad. Too bad.
extendedping
2010-10-06, 14:00
Yikes. Just read the translated reviews on amazon Germany.
Youch. Rare that a product gets slammed that had. What a disaster.
It took me 5 minutes to run MediaBox on it. Now it's streaming music and video via UPnP. And the touchscreen is great!
The power of Linux! :)
Too bad that most reviewers want to compare it to an iPad at all costs. But it's the fault of Neofonie who marketed it as such.
Wow Benny 1967, you're really putting the WeTab down... I'm hoping it's not really that bad...
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