HELP w/my Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard

[chicago_animal]

I just bought a N800 and Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard from Amazon. I got my N800 started up, got a connection to my Wi-Fiand decided to get the keyboard going as well. I connected my N800 to my PC, inserted the CD for the Keyboard and thats all that is going on. When I try to install the driver it keeps on saying it failed.

Anyone with better instructions to get this going then the ones that came with the keyboard?

[barry99705]

I thought the drivers were already on the 800. Try Tools/Control Panel/Hardware Keyboard/Keyboard, Generic 105-key pc. That's how it worked for the Apple keyboard I tried.

[chicago_animal]

Ok I tried this and it did not respond at all. Did you do anything with the CD that it came with? Cause like I said, the CD wouldnt do anything for me.

[akonradi]

You don't need the CD at all. Go into the control panel, bluetooth, devices, then new. Hold down control and both 'fn' keys together while the tablet scans for it. Once discovered, find the verification code, tap "OK" then type in the code with the keyboard. It should then connect.

[chicago_animal]

Ok it found the keyboard. I click on it, then OK. I get PAIR WITH DEVICE screen where it gives me a passcode. I click on OK and get:

"Pairing Failed. Authentication time-out. Try Again?"


WHat do I need to do?

[akonradi]

Make sure that you are holding down the blue 'fn' key when typing in the numbers. Also, press 'OK' then enter the numbers. It should automatically connect.

[chicago_animal]

See, I didnt type in ANY numbers. There were numbers in the pass section already in there, when the window to pair the keyboard and N800 opened up.

[euchreprof]

Ok it found the keyboard. I click on it, then OK. I get PAIR WITH DEVICE screen where it gives me a passcode. I click on OK and get:

"Pairing Failed. Authentication time-out. Try Again?"


WHat do I need to do?



Ok after you see the passcode then you need to type those numbers in using the bluetooth keyboard... you will not see what you are typing... PRESS THE FN key while typing in the passcode numbers... THEN PRESS RETURN!

[artkavanagh]

Ok after you see the passcode then you need to type those numbers in using the bluetooth keyboard... you will not see what you are typing... PRESS THE FN key while typing in the passcode numbers... THEN PRESS RETURN!

The onscreen instructions don't tell you that you need to press return after entering the numbers, but you do.

[chicago_animal]

Awesome! It is working. Now when I turn everything off and turn it on again, what dodI do to get the keyboard going again?

[luketoh]

hit the keys on the keyboard. see if it reconnects.



Lukr

[megabyte405]

Otherwise, when you do the previous procedure ("pairing") - make sure you set the keyboard as a trusted device, then it will auto-connect.

[ajh33]

Well I have dutifully followed all the instructions in this thread and still no successful pairing has occured. :(
Any more ideas?

[DingerX]

Yeah: try again, this time doing right what you did wrong. Judging by your description, I'd say you probably got a Stowaway Revision 13. When pairing with an r.13, be sure to shield both the r.13 and the n800 from lunar radiation. You'll thank me later.

[johsua]

Ok after you see the passcode then you need to type those numbers in using the bluetooth keyboard... you will not see what you are typing... PRESS THE FN key while typing in the passcode numbers... THEN PRESS RETURN!

A note to this - on my TOBTKB I do not need to hold the FN key while doing this. Also - when you open up your keyboard do not press the little indented button, just start typing. I think the little button may reset the pairing? I could be wrong on this...

[ajh33]

Hey thanks Dingerx. As a result of your helpful post I am now typing this on my stowaway.
:p

[DingerX]

My pleasure ajh, but to be honest you deserve the credit. If you hadn't provided such a detailed description of your problem, I wouldn't have gotten the solution so fasr

[coosbaytv]

can anyone help if the device is paired and working correctly but doesn't reconnect?

I read if you tap a key it should reconnect.

That isn't happening.

I have an n810 and igo BT keyboard.

The manual I found online shows a setup for Symbian obviously not the n810.

any help would be great...

[nhanquy]

try this (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=13789) to see if it helps.

[coosbaytv]

nhanguy:

Those are the instructions I used to get it up and going through the pairing process.

What I need now is the proper procedure on how to get them to recognize each other as a trusted device.

[imtab]

On my tablet the keyboard does connect automatically. Tap the bluetooth icon on the desktop. Tap the devices list edit the keyboard in the list and set as trusted device. I am using an N800 on OS20008 diablo..

[nhanquy]

One more thing: name the device without space(s).

[coosbaytv]

OK everyone...

I have done all of the above to no avail including changing the device name to remove the spaces.

I have seen lots of post by people using the n800, I have the n810. Is there or should there be a difference between these two devices when it comes to Bluetooth?

I just bought this from someone on this forum so since they were using it with an n810 as well, I can only assume that it should work...Very Frustrating!

[nhanquy]

I haven't used my BT keyboard for a while. Only thing I can think of from the top of my head is replacing the batteries.

But are you sure having BT visible and on? The BT applet should be on too.

[coosbaytv]

nhanguy:

I am new to Bluetooth in general but very familiar with many devices and such.

That said, the BT on the n810 is on (WHITE).

The Green flashing light on the Stowaway KB flashes which tells me it works and is active.

The issue is not setup and pairing but on RE-connecting...

Everything is in order, something is just missing and I need someone with an n810 to verify their experience as to if anything has changed between the two models.

[nhanquy]

the BT on the n810 is on (WHITE).


That tells me the N810 did not try to re-connect to the keyboard.

I had the igo but gave it away so I did not test my N810 with the igo.

But I just tested my N810 with the BT Nokia SU-8W:

Paired, turned off SU-8W, disconnected on the N810, turned on SU-8W, the BT on N810 turned BLUE and auto-connected to the SU-8W.

You should delete the paired device again on the N810, pair it again with a name w/o space(s)
to see if it works or not. That is what I recall when I had the igo.

[coosbaytv]

nhanguy:

Thanks for your diligence first of all...

OK, after some more investigation, I found:

1) I have a Think Outside model XTBT01, not an iGo brand. iGo bought Think Outside as there is no more Think Outside brand...

2) I changed the device name to "iGo" and found that watching closely the BT indicator on the n810 would flash from White to Blue while typing on the keyboard but never stay constant. This tells me it is trying to connect but not staying connected.

3) While the BY icon is Blue, if I use the stylus and click on it, I get the dialogue box on screen that says "Disconnect iGo?"
So this must mean there is a state that it is connected but something is preventing it from staying connected.

Reading through the entire posting of your supplied thread, there is mixed review on editing code to fix the problem. What is your recommendation on this?

Thanks!

[nhanquy]

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=13789&page=5

post #48

[nhanquy]

If I remember correctly there would be a double entries in that file. Delete them and try to connect again with a short name (no space!). Some how the N8x0 picks up the first assigned entry with space in its name and can not re-connect to the keyboard.

I too had that problem with the N800.

[coosbaytv]

nhanguy:

OK, I thought there might be something to that.

Now, I could use some help with deciphering that solution (not a coder) as to exact step by step directions as to make sure I do not obliterate my n810... :)

[dfinch]

Haven't read through thoroughly but had this procedure saved.
If it's any help here it is:

Connect igo keyboard to N810
_____________________________

1. Open Control Panel on the N810

2. (Optional I think) Double click 'Bluetooth keyboard', select 'Generic 105-key PC' and OK

3. Back in Control Panel double click 'Bluetooth' under connectivity

4. Make sure 'Bluetooth on' and 'Visible' are checked

5. Click on Button 'Devices'

6. On the Igo keyboard hold down the left CNTRL KEY, the BLUE fn key and the GREEN fn key at the same time. (A GREEN LED above the T key will begin to flash).

7. Select the 'Think Outside Keyboard'

8. Select 'Edit'

9. Select 'Connect'

If it will not connect you need to reinitiate the pairing as follows:

1. Select the 'Think Outside Keyboard' and 'Delete' under Bluetooth devices. Confirm with 'OK'

2. On the Igo keyboard hold down the left CNTRL KEY, the BLUE fn key and the GREEN fn key

3. Select 'New' and the N810 will find the Think Outside Keyboard

4. Select 'OK' and note the four digit PASSCODE number. (Set as trusted should be checked)

5.Select 'OK'and immediately enter the PASSCODE number on the keyboard (hold BLUE Fn, enter number and press Enter)

The Keyboard will then be paired. Close Control panel.

[coosbaytv]

dfinch:

So basically I have to "Re-Pair" every time I want to use this thing?

Oh-Boy...

Will keep looking for an answer or will have to just find a device that isn't so much trouble.

[dfinch]

I did find that I needed to repair often unlike my phone and car audio which paires every time I get in the car. I ended up getting a mini USB keyboard which just plugs in with OTG plug.

[coosbaytv]

thanks for the info...

not quite willing to give up just yet!

[TA-t3]

It shouldn't be necessary to re-pair every time, but unfortunately I have no idea, the best I can offer is to look into that double-entry issue that nhanqay mentioned - it sounds like there might be something there. For me (with an iGo sierra and an N800) it "just works", and that's how it is meant to be.

[dornanu]

I have a Think Outside keyboard. It's a pain to get paired. The instructions are accurate but I had to take the batteries out of the keyboard for a while (I think I left them out for a few hours) until it reset the previous pairing. Once paired, you only need to reconnect which is quick.

Dornanu

[coosbaytv]

dornanu:

"Once paired, you only need to reconnect which is quick."

This is the only part I am having trouble with...

HOW, do it reconnect for you? It is not happening for me.

[coosbaytv]

ACTUALLY:

I MAY HAVE JUST FIXED IT...

On initial testing, it seems to connect and disconnect properly now after I did several re-pairing processes.

The difference seems to be in unchecking "Trusted Device"!

I have left the BY on on the n810 and let it set for a couple minutes to see if it times out while the KB is folded up!

OK, still working!!!! WOOHOO!

[coosbaytv]

yep...still working after most of the day disconnected...

went in andd openned it up and got the dialogue box asking if I wanted to connect.

So, it seems for me anyway that unchecking Trusted Device did the job.

thanks all!

[TA-t3]

Well, that's strange, as on my N800 it's definitely ticked. But I'm on OS2007, maybe it makes a difference. But it's great news that you got it working though.

[dornanu]

I see it's working for you. That's good.

I think I have the trusted device turned on. To connect, I go into the device list and select connect. At the same time, I press the three keys on the keyboard that "wake" it. As long as I don't turn off the bluetooth, I can "rewake" as necessary.

Dornanu