View Full Version : Should I pre-order a N9 / Should I wait
Fellow maemonians and future meegonians
Looking to pre-order the nokia n9 but where and how...
Which UK companies are taking orders and which one should I use...
Who else has pre-ordered?
Should I wait?
I was just curious, to see the answer to the question. You know I may have corporate relationship issues every time I make a commitment I get screwed, first Microsoft, then Nokia and now Motorola. The emotions aside, who out there would consider the N9, given Nokia position on the matter and the short history that was the n900.
My n900 is still limping along as my day to day phone, and I did get to play with a prototype N9, it was way sexsy and by all means what I want my N900 to be. But the bottom line is Nokia has some apologies to make before I consider buying another product. The feeling I got while discussing the N9 prototype was Nokia are burning the boats its Microsoft or die pushing it.
mikecomputing
2011-08-30, 02:15
I was just curious, to see the answer to the question. You know I may have corporate relationship issues every time I make a commitment I get screwed, first Microsoft, then Nokia and now Motorola. The emotions aside, who out there would consider the N9, given Nokia position on the matter and the short history that was the n900.
My n900 is still limping along as my day to day phone, and I did get to play with a prototype N9, it was way sexsy and by all means what I want my N900 to be. But the bottom line is Nokia has some apologies to make before I consider buying another product. The feeling I got while discussing the N9 prototype was Nokia are burning the boats its Microsoft or die pushing it.
Your response is just offtopic to his question.
if you dont like N9 or nokias stupid decisions.... go buy something else instead of whine. we had enought of this at TMO and it gives nothing to the community IMHO...
But if you really must cry about nokia decision (who we all dislike btw...) there is another thread discussion this over and over and over and over agan (hint thread: "n9 is NOT released,..." ;)
here is my opinion about buy or wait.
personally I think you should wait and see. My guess is amazon.co.uk will sell it if your from uk.
danramos
2011-08-30, 04:59
Osama Bin Laden is right! ...wait, what???
@mike: even if you're right, people will likely misunderstand or disagree with you because of the way you say things.
@OP: wait it out or don't buy at all. I don't think there'll be significant shortage of N9 once they're released.
HellFlyer
2011-08-30, 06:02
"Fellow maemonians and future meegonians"
lol sounds like alien races to me :)
I personally wouldn't recommend buying it now. Wait its not worth to pay premium for such a device
if you can wait.. then wait
if ur like me and have been waiting around for it for AGES then pre-order it (but even still.. you have to wait coz its still not released lol however pre-ordering does give you a satisfying and excited feeling inside for a brief moment lol)
if you want to be one of the peeps to stand out then get it asap... if u dont really care, but u still wanna get one.. then.. wait till its cheaper lol
tuxsavvy
2011-08-30, 08:17
I personally would wait for it to be fully released. People pre-ordering their N9 when nokia decides to bail it out (like they did with N950) and uses the its hardware for W9 (or sea ray) will be pissed off :). In other words don't invest on something which may later become vapourware.
Also there were initial problems with N900. I do not know if the same sort of ordeal would happen with N9. Waiting here might give you more awareness of any potential shortcomings in the said device. nokia may or may not release fixes for any hardware shortfalls on N9. If they do and you happen to get it later than having it preordered, chances are you may not suffer any shortfalls unlike the first adopters.
Just my 0.02
Frappacino
2011-08-30, 08:27
if you have to ask this question, then definitely wait
those that preorder regard FOSS as a religion in that any phone with open >>>> any closed phone regardless of features
if you have to ask a forum, then you definitely do not belong in this group
[QUOTE=Osama Bin Laden;1078759]Frankly he is on topic.
And yes, nokia owes us an apology, but still, I'd take the N9.. *prefer N950 though*
but i'd wait a few months.. Mainly coz I'm broke :D *and dead*[/
i feel ya pain osama
danramos
2011-08-30, 09:01
I personally would wait for it to be fully released. People pre-ordering their N9 when nokia decides to bail it out (like they did with N950) and uses the its hardware for W9 (or sea ray) will be pissed off :). In other words don't invest on something which may later become vapourware.
Also there were initial problems with N900. I do not know if the same sort of ordeal would happen with N9. Waiting here might give you more awareness of any potential shortcomings in the said device. nokia may or may not release fixes for any hardware shortfalls on N9. If they do and you happen to get it later than having it preordered, chances are you may not suffer any shortfalls unlike the first adopters.
Just my 0.02
Hell! You can't even send your device to Nokia for repair without worrying at least a LITTLE that they'll end up magically shipping you back some other COMPLETELY different model that can only run some other operating system. I'd DEFINITELY not trust pre-ordering anything from Nokia... especially with Derpy the Clown in the CEO position.
dirtymoon
2011-08-30, 21:10
i;ve pre-ordered with expansys.co.uk there's no confirmed price but they won't charge your card until it's in stock and they'll ask before doing so. i thought there was no harm in putting myself to front of que if i have the choice to back out
erendorn
2011-08-30, 21:27
I'd wait... I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get it the same week as a preorder without preordering. just cheaper.
danramos
2011-08-31, 11:09
"Good things come to those who wait." You know who said that? I don't know either, but I bet they didn't put money down in 2001 to reserve a copy of Duke Nukem Forever. I wouldn't pre-pay on a bad bet like Nokia either.
Dude do not proorde what if it gets *****canned and you end up with some windows phail??
danramos
2011-09-01, 07:32
Wait for reviews, etc.
Refer to my previous statements about waiting for good things. :)
Prices always drop the first week when competition kicks in. Eager buyers get no discount.
danramos
2011-09-01, 08:18
Prices always drop the first week when competition kicks in. Eager buyers get no discount.
Competition? Which competition? Isn't EVERYBODY, at this point, competition already? Surely, you meant that in jest.
WhiteWolf
2011-09-01, 09:24
I have no choice.
I live in Spain and here you can not even smell. Expansys has confirmed that it will sell to my country.
I was excited about this device. The only thing I think they missed was better microprocessor and expansion card bay.
The camera is more than enough but it might be nice to see videos of "1080", not record from a mobile phone that I see a little absurd.
It's a shame, criticism of specialists were very good about the performance of the device.
Competition? Which competition? Isn't EVERYBODY, at this point, competition already? Surely, you meant that in jest.
You misundereadwronglyed that.
Not N9 vs GSII, but newegg vs othereggs.
Once webshop 1 and webshop 2 starts actually start selling the N9's they've had for preordering, and webshop 3 and webshop 4 start selling them too, the price of the N9 will drop on both webshop 1 and webshop 2. It's often a two step process with preorders:
1: Put out a guesstimate price, allow preorders with a price reservation.
2: Revisit the price once you know your in price.
Once it's out of preorder phase, there's a 3rd and 4rd step:
3: Compare your price to your competition
4: gosub 3;
Webshops compare prices. Once they know their margins and their competitors prices, they know how much they can and/or need to cut.
danramos
2011-09-01, 20:50
You misundereadwronglyed that.
Not N9 vs GSII, but newegg vs othereggs.
Once webshop 1 and webshop 2 starts actually start selling the N9's they've had for preordering, and webshop 3 and webshop 4 start selling them too, the price of the N9 will drop on both webshop 1 and webshop 2. It's often a two step process with preorders:
1: Put out a guesstimate price, allow preorders with a price reservation.
2: Revisit the price once you know your in price.
Once it's out of preorder phase, there's a 3rd and 4rd step:
3: Compare your price to your competition
4: gosub 3;
Webshops compare prices. Once they know their margins and their competitors prices, they know how much they can and/or need to cut.
Ah, I gotcha. Then the question becomes: Who ARE these competitors that will carry and sell N9's? Near as I can tell, there aren't a whole lot of them.
Ah, I gotcha. Then the question becomes: Who ARE these competitors that will carry and sell N9's? Near as I can tell, there aren't a whole lot of them.
In Norway (not on Nokias availability list) a whole bunch of (multi-market Swedish owned, mainly, Sweden is on the availability list) regular web shops already have them up. Price difference between 16gb and 64gb is neglectable; about 10%. Once these start selling, I assume the real price difference will be bigger. Unless they are going to move as many/more 64gb's as 16gb's.
Buy/Pre-Order?
Do we seriously believe that this device will ever see day light? It's 75 days or so since I first tweeted my excitement about the N9. 74 days ago I was disappointed. 73 days ago I regained hope. 72 days ago I was excited again....so forth so forth and 1 day ago I was disappointed. Today however is no different.
Painful self inflicting curse we all have for these sort of devices. Let's try to get Pre 3's or something else to ease the pain.
danramos
2011-09-02, 10:17
In Norway (not on Nokias availability list) a whole bunch of (multi-market Swedish owned, mainly, Sweden is on the availability list) regular web shops already have them up. Price difference between 16gb and 64gb is neglectable; about 10%. Once these start selling, I assume the real price difference will be bigger. Unless they are going to move as many/more 64gb's as 16gb's.
That's very microeconomic, now tell me how that will ACTUALLY effect N9 prices in general, or who will make for competition elsewhere--you know.. the world. :P
erendorn
2011-09-02, 10:39
That's very microeconomic, now tell me how that will ACTUALLY effect N9 prices in general, or who will make for competition elsewhere--you know.. the world. :P
Well, as there is no world availlability, it is hard to look at it differently than on a country by country basis. In Switzerland, the N9 is listed in more than 30 online shops. In countries where it will be officially released, there will be competition.
Buy/Pre-Order?
Do we seriously believe that this device will ever see day light? It's 75 days or so since I first tweeted my excitement about the N9. 74 days ago I was disappointed. 73 days ago I regained hope. 72 days ago I was excited again....so forth so forth and 1 day ago I was disappointed. Today however is no different.
I think I remember that a release in end september has always been the most plausible hypothesis since the first week after anouncement... no reason to be disapointed much more after that.
*shrug*
i have just observed that prices always drop within the first week or two. street price tend to be different from preorder price.
Let's try to get Pre 3's or something else to ease the pain.
It seems that the Pre 3 will only be available on contract, at least in the UK. I guess the carriers are looking to snag all those people that bought a cheap TouchPad.
It seems that the Pre 3 will only be available on contract, at least in the UK. I guess the carriers are looking to snag all those people that bought a cheap TouchPad.
They are trying but I dont think it will work. Same reason why the Touchpad would not sell like hot cakes if it came with a 24 month contract.
The PRE3 as a stand alone device is great but if one was to get a 2 year/18month contract then why not go for a more popular and widely known Android device? failed logic.
Though the touch to share between webOS devices is a sweet function that i wouldnt mind having.
Don't see the point in preordering phones. I buy it when its available, until then nokia may even have clarified its strategy regarding Meego and Qt. That's what I hope, not very keen to buy another DOA product like the N900. The N9 will be my only handset in use, so it better delivers.
danramos
2011-09-04, 01:42
Don't see the point in preordering phones. I buy it when its available, until then nokia may even have clarified its strategy regarding Meego and Qt. That's what I hope, not very keen to buy another DOA product like the N900. The N9 will be my only handset in use, so it better delivers.
Better still... if nobody preorders, and there are barely or no purchases within the first week or two or longer, then maybe they'll HAVE to drop prices (competition or not) and it'll finally, FINALLY fall in line to a reasonable price considering the terribly mediocre, outdated specifications it has.
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