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JohnHughes
2011-10-13, 08:59
I've had my N9 for a day now and like it quite a lot.
The GSM/3G radio seems to be very good, I get connections in places where my N900 couldn't (the tunnel between Nation and Gare de Lyon on the RER for example!).
The WIFI however is abominable.
At home I get no WIFI in my bedroom, where the N900 is showing at least 40%
At work the N900 sees my office WIFI at 20% The N9 often can't see it at all, and won't connect when it can.
In both places if I go sit right next to the WIFI access point it works.
What experience do others have?
Yes, I also have pretty bad WiFi reception, and having troubles with mixed a/g/n WLANs (2,4 + 5 GHz bands)... Connection is established, but stops responding after few seconds... if I set my access point to 802.11b/g only, it works without problems.
This is bad news; one of the early claims for the N9 was that the polycarbonate body would result in excellent reception. I assumed this applied to all the wireless technologies in the phone
benny1967
2011-10-13, 10:04
I don't (yet) have the N9 myself, but read two independent reviews so far stating that WiFi was a weak point. (Not only reception in general, but also re-connecting from 3G to known WiFi access points and other issues.)
dang.
.......................
JohnHughes
2011-10-13, 10:35
if I set my access point to 802.11b/g only, it works without problems.
Very interesting. I'll have to see if I can configure my home and office WIFI APs like that.
I don't (yet) have the N9 myself, but read two independent reviews so far stating that WiFi was a weak point. (Not only reception in general, but also re-connecting from 3G to known WiFi access points and other issues.)
The reconnect issue is not present at my home, fortunately... But at work I experience this one...
JohnHughes
2011-10-13, 12:16
Very interesting. I'll have to see if I can configure my home and office WIFI APs like that.
Well, in the office I have a Linksys WAP200 which only does B and G.
I dont understand how things like this get into the finished product.
Surely wireless is one of the big things they test for before releasing a product.
Then again, I guess not.
benny1967
2011-10-13, 12:42
This is bad news; one of the early claims for the N9 was that the polycarbonate body would result in excellent reception. I assumed this applied to all the wireless technologies in the phone
it could be a software problem.
Yes, wi-fi reception of N9 is weaker than other phones. Users in other forums are also complaining.
it could be a software problem.
Let's hope so
Thank god i dont use wifi...
I'm yet to see any tests indicating how 802.11an performs.
Apparently most people still don't have dual-band routers/AP :confused:
All the feed-back RE performance I've seen about 802.11gn.
Indicates that it actually performs well, it just doesn't hold a signal well.
Could it just be some fine tuning needed?
I got actually very good signal quality with my router in N-only mode, but pretty horrible with G-only (connection dropouts, timeouts, very poor reception).
Both were pretty bad power-consumption wise though, so I quickly disabled wifi again completely. I noticed that my battery lasts a lot longer (about 10-12 hours more) when I'm on 3G only.
can't say I experienced any of this coming from the n9 kick-off party! I didn't have i microsim with me so I just used my N900 as wifihotspot. No problems what so ever, even on the subway!
And I'm on my neighbours wifi right now! No problemo!
somedude
2011-10-13, 21:52
it could be a software problem.
Another "WON'T FIX"?:p
After 5 days of using N9 and 70% of web surfing done using wifi, haven't had any problems there thankfully.
According to Nokia developers specs N9 got 802.11 b/g/n so is a really missing?
It's def. "A" (5Ghz) as well, it has been all along...
If they've change that now to PR1.1+, man I'll be annoyed.
smegheadz
2011-10-13, 22:22
i always found wifi to be trouble with all my gadgets and wifi capable things. for example some work better then others and there in the same place, i change my wifi settings a little and it's the other way around or 1 doesn't work at all. check things like what band it works bad or not on on your router if you change the settings. are there other wifi networks on the same channel or 3 channels off etc. an example would be turning on my ps3 and the laptop cant see the wifi network but everything else can. there anyone with experience with wifi and chips etc who can advise?
Over here most people use 802.11 n/g/b and the problem is not with dropouts but with reception sensitivity. N9 can't detect weak wi-fi networks while other phones can detect, connect and surf. The problem is not router settings but the N9 itself.
very bad news, i always used my N900 with wifi, and if the N9 have such a bad sensitive wifi antena really sucks very bad, not only will make web surfing horrible, but pentesting horrible too and other applications that depends on wifi
Made a bug that is similar to this.. It's on a N950 but still. Vote up if you feel this is happens for you too.. http://www.developer.nokia.com/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=501
very bad news, i always used my N900 with wifi, and if the N9 have such a bad sensitive wifi antena really sucks very bad, not only will make web surfing horrible, but pentesting horrible too and other applications that depends on wifi
If you have decent wi-fi signal where you normally use, it should not be a problem. The problem is with marginal areas.
Signal is really bad for wifi.
But beyond excellent for 3G :)
Good news is that wifi is still fast with 0 bars. If you move 1 metre away, it just drops the connection though. I think it may just be a glitch.
Can anyone please test the wifi tethering to see the performance in ad hoc/tether mode? Thanks, want to know if it is both ways or just one way issue in switching. Mine is currently on order.
Another "WON'T FIX"?:p
Even worse: it will be "FIXED in WP8" :D
Can anyone please test the wifi tethering to see the performance in ad hoc/tether mode? Thanks, want to know if it is both ways or just one way issue in switching. Mine is currently on order.
You mean wi-fi hotspot? The wi-fi hotspot function is very stable.
If you have decent wi-fi signal where you normally use, it should not be a problem. The problem is with marginal areas.
That's not the case with my N950 with Beta2 firmware.
I have strong signal all over my house and office and I can barely make the N950 connect to WiFi.
That much that I totally removed it and am using 3G all the time (luckily I've got unlimited data).
The same WiFi signal is pretty strong (full bars on all other WiFi devices, laptops) and still the N950 can't connect or looses signal after a bit.
Don't believe they use exactly the same radio though do they?
N9 is likely to use wl1273 or wl1273l
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=29993&navigationId=12762&templateId=6123
Then there's the antenna build, & how the signal escapes the enclosure etc.
Not really even worthwhile using the N950 as a basis for how N9 does/doesn't perform.
JohnHughes
2011-10-17, 11:12
Here's someone at Nokia talking about wifi and PR1.1
Wifi reception was one of the issues where we had to be dancing on the SAR boundaries. Although wifi in general has been improved by leaps and bounds in 1.1. For me at least, the reception is now perfectly good.
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2011/10/n9-on-sale-in-finland-and-few-other.html
benny1967
2011-10-17, 11:36
After my first post in this thread, I feel I had to state: Now that I have the N9, I can say it has better Wifi performance for me than the N900 and the C7.
Of course this will probably depend on your routers and other factors, but at least the N9 needn't always perform worse than other devices.
Here's someone at Nokia talking about wifi and PR1.1
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2011/10/n9-on-sale-in-finland-and-few-other.html
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.
JohnHughes
2011-10-17, 14:55
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.Actually he said "Harmattan 1.1"
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.
It's not out yet, coming soon....
Will go to N950 devs 1st and very soon going by all the rumours.
Then as happened for the fw currently on most N9's...
It'll prolly be made available to everyone else a couple of wks later.
zoolkhan
2011-10-18, 15:45
i can confirm wifi reception is worse than on my previous phones/devices:
n8
n97
kindle 3 wifi
c6
With the first firmware I had issues connecting to my own router in my own house, or rather, issues with it disconnecting or the connection going 'stale' (connected but no data) after a while. Now I have PR1.1 and it is much better, stays connected to my network all day. I did do a comparison with my N900 though this morning and discovered that while the N900 discovered 27 networks in the vicinity, the N9 discovered only 5. That's a huge difference.
Just got my n9 and i have wifi issues
i can connect to b/.g but limited /.weak signal and distance or it drops
and very very lmited , distance of maybe couple meters to connect to wpa2, which is N wifi,
or else it drops or can't see it. everything else works
i even have my n900 that can connect with no problem , even from outside my house i can connect
I HVE PR 1.,1
Just got my n9 and i have wifi issues
i can connect to b/.g but limited /.weak signal and distance or it drops
and very very lmited , distance of maybe couple meters to connect to wpa2, which is N wifi,
or else it drops or can't see it. everything else works
i even have my n900 that can connect with no problem , even from outside my house i can connect
I HVE PR 1.,1
The N9 wi-fi sensitivity is a little weaker than most but not that weak. It should only be an issue in marginal signal areas. If you're getting connection distance of a few metres it is not normal and should be investigated on the basis of hardware/software failure.
will the fix be in PR.1.2
with the rumor/confirmed of 3500 Improvements
i am able to connect to N (wpa2) network and my B/G (wpa) network off my dual band modem(cisco), with my n900 and n9 in the room that the modem is in (which is the basement). the n900 will remain connected to both or numerous hours. the n9 will connect but will disconnect, due of some type of idle time( I've read in several forums) in the way that it consumes battery life.
3 floors up , the n900 can cannot to my N and My B/G
The n9 will cannot see the N network, but will connect to to the B/G,
with the same idle wifi/off, if i select to refresh my feeds it will connect (auto).
Theres is a problem with the signal strength for the wpa2 type, and it does not remain connected to the network like n900 or any other device, due to idle time outs. but it can connect to the network, and theres not issues on any modems.routers , unless u manually configure your dns,ip's incorrectly, or play with dhcp. i am a network analysis for fiber optics and modem and its very simple to connect to wifi these days, we are not back in 2004 or sumthing, i had a nokia n95 in 2007 and I've been connecting to wifi since.
falconsson
2012-02-06, 14:18
I have the same problem, n9 cannot find the wifi network where n96, n97 or n900 can find it on the exact point.
jecargo22
2012-03-23, 08:40
So I presume the poor WIFI connectivity of the N9 wasn't a software problem but a hardware one since it wasn't fixed with PR1.2 :mad: Anyone knows a workaround to help N9 staying tuned to weak WIFI signals?
After PR1.2 the wifi sensitivity is still poor. My Samsung Wave (Bada) can detect, connect and surf a weak network which my N9 can't even detect.
HELLASISGREECE
2012-03-23, 12:20
Imagine my drama.. being an owner to both N900 & N9
the N900 is a wifi beast
jecargo22
2012-03-23, 12:49
Imagine my drama.. being an owner to both N900 & N9
the N900 is a wifi beast
Yes, me too, and since I decided to carry both with me most of the time, I would like to ask whether I could find a way to use the N900 to boost WiFi to my N9. The only software I found for the N900 is for Ad-hoc hotspot using the n900 Mobile internet connection and create a WLAN where I can connect to. But what I need is the N900 to act more like a WLAN repeater/booster to enhance the already existing WIFI signal and connect to it with my N9. Any trick to do this?
On a related topic, does anybody know if the Lumia 800 has the same problem as the N9?
Fuzzillogic
2012-03-23, 14:56
Theoretically you can use Bluetooth PAN, and let the N900 operate as BT hotspot for the N9 and others. However, the N9 doesn't support BT PAN. I've been trying (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82199) tho get PAN going, but didn't succeed so far. :(
With regards to poor WiFi, I can confirm it certainly seems to be a hardware problem.
I owned two N9's previous to the white that I now have, a 64GB black, and a 16GB black, both of which had awful WiFi signal strength even when right next to my router, both on PR 1.1 and 1.2.
My current white N9 though is absolutely as you'd expect any device, constantly very strong and matches all my other WiFi devices, this is both before and after updating to PR 1.2.
They must have improved this weak signal issue with the white N9, unless it's purely down to luck from device to device.
my signal become better after pr1.2..
i know because before update, i couldn't get any signal in the bathroom of my house, and now i have a little.
Tested when i **** ;)
My N9 finds and connects to WiFi, and starts to work a little, and then stops.
What I did when I was downloading Maps is, I would open the NATIVE browser, and as long as I was browsing, the Maps were being downloaded. As soon as I would stop browsing, the download stops. It's like the native browser would make it work.
Strange, but I was able to download my States maps that way.
jecargo22
2012-03-23, 23:23
My N9 finds and connects to WiFi, and starts to work a little, and then stops.
What I did when I was downloading Maps is, I would open the NATIVE browser, and as long as I was browsing, the Maps were being downloaded. As soon as I would stop browsing, the download stops. It's like the native browser would make it work.
Strange, but I was able to download my States maps that way.
Then it IS a software problem from the sound of this, they just didnt fix it in PR1.2? weird. It might have to do with excessive battery consumption if connected all the time. Clearly the connectivity issue gets worse when it enters in power saving mode, so that might be the clue of this. On the ohter hand, it wouldnt make sense that they would fix it in the white N9 but not in the others. Could someone from Nokia explain this?:confused:
I'm happy with mine, my Hotspots are near enough so I can't tell if it's good or bad.
michdeskunk
2013-02-25, 20:14
I've had my N9 for a day now and like it quite a lot.
The GSM/3G radio seems to be very good, I get connections in places where my N900 couldn't (the tunnel between Nation and Gare de Lyon on the RER for example!).
The WIFI however is abominable.
At home I get no WIFI in my bedroom, where the N900 is showing at least 40%
At work the N900 sees my office WIFI at 20% The N9 often can't see it at all, and won't connect when it can.
In both places if I go sit right next to the WIFI access point it works.
What experience do others have?
hey man, u right!
i have just tried both wifi..
with N900, i open dropbox.com from webbrowser
i choose 3Mb of file and woila... 5 seconds to download
Now i get N9 go to dropbox application, or from webbrowser (same thing), choose 3 Mb file and woila ... more than 15 seconds to download it...
and i look that an Iphone or Android can see wifi net that N9 cant reach..
so N9 wifi have some problems... the hardware should be new !
michdeskunk
2013-02-25, 20:27
After my first post in this thread, I feel I had to state: Now that I have the N9, I can say it has better Wifi performance for me than the N900 and the C7.
Of course this will probably depend on your routers and other factors, but at least the N9 needn't always perform worse than other devices.
at the same distance with the same router, during downloading
N900 is more fast than N9
and N900's webbrowser is on desktop style
N9 charge always mobile site and others cant open
any fixed for this awfull wifi? :(
HELLASISGREECE
2013-04-01, 09:10
any fixed for this awfull wifi? :(
sell your phone
szymeczek34
2013-04-01, 10:29
You may try to extend your internal wifi antenna or you may look for an option to turn wifi power saving off. Good luck!
minhdale
2013-04-02, 03:37
Yeah.wifi in meego is stuck.sometime i have to reset my modem.
Just try to use wifi on nitdroid to compare.
sell your phone
How much do your offer? :p
HELLASISGREECE
2013-04-02, 06:01
i allready have two :)
I know this is an old thread.
I had to have my n9 repaired after dropping it. The display and the housing were both replaced. Now my n9 has no or very weak wifi reception.
When I bought the N9 back in 2013 it had excellent reception. After having the display and housing replaced I must be in the same room as the wifi router.
Where is the wifi antenna located inside the N9?
chilango
2015-05-24, 15:38
i think in the manual you have a picture on which indicate bluetooth and wifi antena ubication
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