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jalyst
2011-11-07, 05:37
Just a general chit-chat thread, like the N9: It's finally here! thread, but w/a better title.
Decided to start a new one, as we can't get the OP to rename the title of the other one.
Tis mainly for general banter about the latest news relating to N9/Maemo6x, & successors if any.
But also chit-chat about Nokia as-a-whole, latest news, & our interpretation of that against competitors.

To kick things off, here's my little thought/finding for the day...
I hope Nokia will continue to do stuff like this for the N9/N950
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/05/hp-gives-webos-developers-a-chance-to-get-a-150-touchpad
Heck HP almost entirely dropped WebOS yet they're still doing stuff like this!?
Elop's always said Maemo6x still remains an important part of future work so um.

I know there's a commercial device program, but AFAIK it requires devs to fork-out much more $.
I believe it was free or much less for a time, it may still be for all I know,* but Nokia never disclosed the no's handed-out.
Then there's the puny 300 N950's that were handed-out for the community device program.
qgil mentioned he'd try to arrange something similar for the N9, once it became widely available.
Alas I haven't seen anything more about that from him...
More importantly it needs to be done for the commercial dev program, & on a much larger scale than 300-odd.
Similar to this WebOS initiative....

*so long as one could prove/satisfy all the requirements

SamGan
2011-11-07, 10:47
More developers are certainly required for Meego-Harmattan. I've been monitoring and it seems like a couple of new apps a day. This is certainly not going to build up the app store in reasonable time. Of course we may see more apps coming in a torrent in Dec but somehow I don't think so. Why should developers all finish at the same time?

Very few commercial developers are interested except for Gameloft which has produced a couple of excellent games for N9. This is understandable as Elop has practically given Meego the death blow by announcing there will be no more Meego phones. He is also giving away 25,000 Lumia 800 phones free to developers. Unloved by its parents the N9 has to depend on the Meego community for its survival.

Sorry to keep driving on apps but a robust pool of apps is the key to N9's success as a mainstream phone. Otherwise it will suffer the fate of WebOs and Samsung's Bada. If N9 becomes widely successful Nokia may reconsider and produce another Meego phone.

I would like to urge developers to produce some mainstream apps first before going on to more specialized apps. I've detailed some in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79666

Remember, the future of Meego-Harmattan is in your hands, literally.

jonnyl
2011-11-07, 13:42
While I'm not an app-centric person, I do agree, without commercial developers willing to support the N9, eg a constant stream of revenue to Nokia via the Store, we'll probably even get crappier support.

I don't blame them, with Elop's announcements of MeeGo/Maemo and the lack of Qt on Windows Phone, it was like a double-tap in the head for the N9.

With the artificial market restrictions placed on the N9, this will also hurt the demand and interest in the platform. I also doubt Elop will ever announce the sales figures for the device. We may get it out some other way, but meh, they'll never promote it as much as they should.

The only hope for the N9 is the failure of the Lumia line. Though that may do okay considering they're going to practically give away the phone or offer other Microsoft incentives... I though I read that somewhere they're going to give away an Xbox with the phone...

mscion
2011-11-07, 13:56
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The only hope for the N9 is the failure of the Lumia line. Though that may do okay considering they're going to practically give away the phone or offer other Microsoft incentives... I though I read that somewhere they're going to give away an Xbox with the phone...

I would consider buying the Lumia if Nokia offered to give a N950 with the phone...

Estel
2011-11-07, 14:04
Title is very bad, I thought that someone plan to install water cooling in harmattan-powered device. So, for the first time, I wasted my time reading Harmatann'ish thread, and, wasted Your time, while you're reading this post.

So, please, rename thread to something non-confusing ;)

Zoxir
2011-11-07, 14:28
The only hope for the N9 is the failure of the Lumia line. Though that may do okay considering they're going to practically give away the phone or offer other Microsoft incentives... I though I read that somewhere they're going to give away an Xbox with the phone...

:D:D:D:D:D
A windows 8 tablet for free along with Lumia??? :p

Anyway the failure off the Lumia 800 and 710 is possible. I can tell you then when it was announced in Greece on the bigger technological/geek forum full of early adopters there were only like 20 posts and half of them noted that the phones sucked and from what I see on the internet it's the same thing world wide even if elop gives away 1 million of them thing is people don't like them :)

SamGan
2011-11-07, 14:33
If Elop had kept his mouth shut instead of announcing that there will be no more Meego phone things would have gone much for smoothly for N9. But no, he had to open his big mouth just to ensure that N9 doesn't have a chance of big market success. Now just because of his big mouth every reviewer has pronounced Meego as a dead os and commercial developers are shying away.

Keeping N9 from being sold in major markets is a strategy of desperation. It's not as if consumers deprived of access to N9 are going to buy Lumia in droves.

A sale of N9 is still a sale for Nokia so why is Elop behaving like WP7 must succeed over N9? Only a Microsoft whore will think this way which of course he is.

jalyst
2011-11-07, 14:41
Title is very bad, I thought that someone plan to install water cooling in harmattan-powered device.
So, for the first time, I wasted my time reading Harmatann'ish thread, and, wasted Your time, while you're reading this post.
So, please, rename thread to something non-confusing ;)

Modified. Hopefully that meets your standards ;)

SavageD
2011-11-07, 14:46
Wow this whole scenario looks like dejavue. @_@.

I must remember to keep away from anything that has "N9" in it's title, since it apparently means not nice.

jalyst
2011-11-07, 14:50
The original epic thread did get nasty at times, but it was often a good exchange of ideas/debate too.

jalyst
2011-11-07, 19:42
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/07/want-a-nokia-n9-in-the-us-expansys-has-some-but-itll-cost-ya/

libaax
2011-11-07, 21:26
If got n9 would it work with n900 wall charger?

sponka
2011-11-07, 21:41
If got n9 would it work with n900 wall charger?

Yes. It will work with any micro-USB charger. It's standard!

bandora
2011-11-07, 22:19
I would've loved an N8 successor with Maemo Harmattan OS.. I refuse to call it Meego Harmattan btw

slai
2011-11-07, 22:30
So call it maemo6 instead, saves you a ton of time. also: how is the n9 not an n8 successor with maemo6/meego harmattan?

marxian
2011-11-07, 22:33
also: how is the n9 not an n8 successor with maemo6/meego harmattan?

N9 camera < N8 camera

N9 video codec support < N8 video codec support

No USB-OTG

No HDMI-Out

slai
2011-11-07, 23:03
So by that standard the N95 had no successors since the camera of the following model wasnt as good?

BTW, and Im seriously asking sincerely; isnt codec support something that can be added? Or is that limited by hw?

For me, none of those things made a huge impact. Except the camera. Man the N8 has some camera on it... I used it over my SGS2 during my roadtrip in Europe this summer, and the results are spectacular.

However the HDMI out Ive used... twice. USBOTG Ive used a few times, but thats completely replaced by Dropbox for me personally. Unless youre a secret agent that recieves memory sticks with the correct format from informants during sleight-of-hand-passbys, Im assuming USBOTG is more novel than practical?

Iunno. Maybe.

kjmackey
2011-11-07, 23:04
If got n9 would it work with n900 wall charger?
Yes - that's what I've been using since the N9 arrived (the Danish plug doesn't really fit the US socket) :p

slai
2011-11-07, 23:04
Oh, also I just installed Opera Mobile 11, and it doesnt have a Desktop user agent, which makes me super sad :(

marxian
2011-11-07, 23:16
So by that standard the N95 had no successors since the camera of the following model wasnt as good?

BTW, and Im seriously asking sincerely; isnt codec support something that can be added? Or is that limited by hw?

For me, none of those things made a huge impact. Except the camera. Man the N8 has some camera on it... I used it over my SGS2 during my roadtrip in Europe this summer, and the results are spectacular.

However the HDMI out Ive used... twice. USBOTG Ive used a few times, but thats completely replaced by Dropbox for me personally. Unless youre a secret agent that recieves memory sticks with the correct format from informants during sleight-of-hand-passbys, Im assuming USBOTG is more novel than practical?

Iunno. Maybe.

I'm not suggesting that the N9 is an inferior device to the N8 (effing Symbian :mad: ). I'm just pointing out that those are the areas where the N9 is lacking compared to the N8. An N8 user that values those features will not see the N9 as an upgrade. Nokia always seem to intentionally gimp their devices by holding back some features that are present on an existing device, probably for fear of harming the sales of said device. There are no good technical reasons why the N9 could not have had those features, except perhaps the camera, which would probably have been tricky to fit into the plastic :p , erm polycarbonate body.

slai
2011-11-07, 23:24
I know youre not :) .

I agree, the N8 was a "wow really, they put THAT in there?", much like i felt with the N900 and the IR port :P .

But rarely used.

I concede, the N9 might not be called a successor to the N8.

But thats a good thing ;) . I had the N8. Summary: good camera. rest: ew.

DaGr8Gatzby
2011-11-07, 23:25
I was thinking about purchasing this and making an app that reads the data:

http://jawbone.com/up

What's sports tracker like? I like the idea of Meego having the ability to use the heart rate monitor.

slai
2011-11-07, 23:26
Sports Tracker is pretty sweet. Havent used a heart rate monitor though.

bandora
2011-11-08, 00:10
So by that standard the N95 had no successors since the camera of the following model wasnt as good?


The N8 is the successor of the N82.. Just sayin'.. ;)

And N8 with Belle is actually pretty good.

Zip
2011-11-08, 03:49
Saw this today on meegoexperts. I'm not sure what happened to Alien Dalvik, but this looks like a suitable replacement. I hope it becomes real!

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/11/openmobile-asia-300000-android-apps/

jalyst
2011-11-08, 04:09
:)

N9 camera < N8 camera

Will get improved more than the N8's camera software will.
It's clear the motion compensation algorithm used has issues, among other things.
Hopefully it'll get better with PR1.1/1.2...
In-the-end there's only so much you can do with sw to compensate for underlying hw.
But I reckon it'll get closer to the N8's, as time goes on.

N9 video codec support < N8 video codec support

N8's hw is slightly better, but actual support isn't better OOTB IIRC?
And it's hw is unlikely to ever be fully exploited...
Whereas squeezing every drop outta the N9's anaemic hw will happen.
OC'ing DSP/CPU to attain H.264 base & main profile as one e.g.

No USB-OTG

This is coming...
joergw finally received his N9 a few days ago.
About freaking time that they got it to him! :eek:
Well at least they got it to him, so I guess I shouldn't be whining.

No HDMI-Out

802.11an + DLNA server (Rygel/Twonky etc) + 802.11an/DLNA client = wireless 1080p vid-out win!

SamGan
2011-11-08, 09:46
How about FM transmitter? Is it cumming? Heard a rumour about using the headphone cables as antenna, wonder if it is true.

jalyst
2011-11-08, 12:34
TX was speculated as possible, but javis wasn't 100% certain, as he doesn't have a N9.
Read through this thread from at least here...
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902&page=3

TX is not even on the radar for now, we've had an update from the Nokia dev just today.
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902&page=13
He's tasked with doing a more robust FMRX/RDS than the hack that javispedro had to do.

jalyst
2011-11-08, 19:33
This seems like such a complimentary project for MeeGo/Tizen & WebOS
I really hope some collaboration falls into place….
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5062/mozilla-developing-open-web-os
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/07/mozilla-seeks-to-infiltrate-android-with-boot-to-gecko-a-new-mo/

I hope its available for "order" (not pre-order) in many other places soon!
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/11/08/white-nokia-n9-pre-order-in-finland/

jalyst
2011-11-09, 05:43
Why is the Lumia 800 readily embraced here, & yet the N9 is not?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php
...... :(

jalyst
2011-11-09, 11:49
Epic (2hr) N9 video (french)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ETp2TVep3v8

That's not a knife, you call that a knife?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nj3r5vlXz70

WebOS suitors? Intel is one of them apparently…
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/11/some-surprises-on-list-of-firms-reportedly-mulling-webos-purchase.ars
Man I really hope it wins the bidding....
It'd be a huge boost for MeeGo/Tizen, & by-proxy BTG, & MeR/NEMO.

This story kinda contradicts the previous one…
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/8/2548121/hp-no-decision-webos

chenliangchen
2011-11-09, 12:24
I'm wondering why the top mainstream smartphones doesn't have FM TX this is so useful. Nokia used to have it even in N78 or N85 etc but why dropped it? Also why Nokia dropped duel speaker which was a must have on top Nokia devices? Just because stupid iphone doesn't have this?!

chenliangchen
2011-11-09, 12:28
Can I ask a request here...

Can someone port Wesnoth for Harmattan? There is already a port for meego i386 but I really want a native Harmattan port. I loved this game since I was using N810. And the support of HW keyboard on N950 will be perfect (another reason to have HW keyboard?...) I would donate some cash for doing this...

Oh and also fheroes2.

Maybe shall I start another thread about this in games?

jalyst
2011-11-10, 14:15
Nokia Maps for all WP7x smartphones....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/nokia-maps-hacked-delivered-to-all-windows-phones-thanks-to-xda
That now makes Maps, Drive, and Music all brought to every WP.
There's now almost zero reason to pick the 800 over some of the better WP's out there.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5075/adobe-kills-mobile-flash-plugin
The final version of the Flash Player plugin for mobile devices will be 11.1, which will come to Android and the BlackBerry PlayBook soon
Following its release, updates will fix bugs and security problems rather than add new features.
So 11x may still be coming to the N9, there just won't be any major updates beyond 11x.

marxian
2011-11-10, 15:14
:)



Will get improved more than the N8's camera software will.
It's clear the motion compensation algorithm used has issues, among other things.
Hopefully it'll get better with PR1.1/1.2...
In-the-end there's only so much you can do with sw to compensate for underlying hw.
But I reckon it'll get closer to the N8's, as time goes on.



N8's hw is slightly better, but actual support isn't better OOTB IIRC?
And it's hw is unlikely to ever be fully exploited...
Whereas squeezing every drop outta the N9's anaemic hw will happen.
OC'ing DSP/CPU to attain H.264 base & main profile as one e.g.



This is coming...
joergw finally received his N9 a few days ago.
About freaking time that they got it to him! :eek:
Well at least they got it to him, so I guess I shouldn't be whining.



802.11an + DLNA server (Rygel/Twonky etc) + 802.11an/DLNA client = wireless 1080p vid-out win!

That's nothing more than a bunch of 'ifs'. If pigs could fly, they'd be taller than cows. :) Besides, I thought the latest fashion was to tell people that they should buy the N9 based on what it can do now.

erendorn
2011-11-10, 15:15
So 11x may still be coming to the N9, there just won't be any major updates beyond 11x.

I doubt the N9 would have had flash 12 anyway ;)

marxian
2011-11-10, 15:33
Note to any developers: If you're wondering why the application icon looks crap in the package manager, it's because you're using the 80x80 icon. You should use a 64x64 icon for the package manager. I just tried this, and it looks much smoother. :)

jalyst
2011-11-10, 16:32
That's nothing more than a bunch of 'ifs'. If pigs could fly, they'd be taller than cows. :)
Besides, I thought the latest fashion was to tell people that they should buy the N9 based on what it can do now.

Some of it is "if's", not all of it...
Why, if it's a possibility or probability there's no harm in mentioning it.
People can make up their own minds after that.

jalyst
2011-11-10, 16:34
I doubt the N9 would have had flash 12 anyway ;)

Oh yeah I realize that... :)
Shame, I would've liked an epic Flash 12x thread, NOT.

slai
2011-11-10, 23:32
So, in the name of chitchat, this happened:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zNEFRbPCDgw/TrxeLkz3FdI/AAAAAAAAA1c/SRUNSSuNhWM/s800/20111111_005.jpg

Looks like my pictures and appgrid bleed together. This is the lockscreen by the way, I swiped it away after taking this picture, it got darker when untouched for a while, and lit up with doubletap and lockkeypress.

Weird.

jalyst
2011-11-14, 20:00
So, in the name of chitchat, this happened:
Looks like my pictures and appgrid bleed together. This is the lockscreen by the way, I swiped it away after taking this picture, it got darker when untouched for a while, and lit up with doubletap and lockkeypress.
Weird.

Eeiiiiw, that is weird, is it still a problem now?

Bluetooth keyboard connection manager GUI
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4828&page=3

slai
2011-11-14, 22:54
Nah, not a problem at all. Was probably my images refreshing on the device after the flash (first powerup) while loading gallery + locking screen.

Once I swiped it away it was gone, never to return again.

jalyst
2011-11-15, 16:46
^ Glad to hear that!

Almost non-existent progress WRT open-mode lately, sigh...
Interesting comment from javispedro about WP's "open-mode" though
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=34730#post34730

jalyst
2011-11-16, 18:54
Is there anything that gets "kinda" close to this for the N9 yet?
http://doubletwist.com/

Still waiting for the freaking White N9's to be order-able in Australia.
Anyone heard any more about them? (PR1.1's already baked in)

chenliangchen
2011-11-16, 19:51
Today I read news that Orange UK has highest pre order for lumia 800, even higher than the N95 and 5800. Shame. So what will happen if it was N9? How high will that be?

jalyst
2011-11-17, 15:52
... :( ....
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/11/11/vanjoki-11-11-2011-would-have-been-important-day-for-meego-strategy/
Oh well, at least Elop's been hinting even more strongly about Meltemi lately.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/11/09/17-minute-elop-interview-video-strongly-hints-meltemi-talk-about-tablets/
So the chances of a F/OSS "&" commercially viable OS from Nokia LT is not lost entirely, yet.

I just find it really hard to believe Elop though...
His heart's not in Nokia doing their own OS that creeps up to the higher-end LT.
Despite their rhetoric that the division between smart/dumb phones is blurring etc.
He just doesn't believe in it, he's convinced Nokia is **** at OS/apps/ecosystems.

jalyst
2011-11-17, 16:41
SIM-based NFC gains global support from 45 mobile carriers, all huddled around GSMA's standard
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/sim-based-nfc-gains-global-support-from-45-mobile-carriers-all/

Bummer, no mention of Australia yet... :(
I hope these SIMs eventually enable us to add SWP/secure-element to our N9's.
The N9 needs that alongside it's NFC for secure transactions.
IIRC Nokia was associated with IRIS (mentioned in this article) at one point.

Yikes for Android!?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/11/juniper-reports-skyrocketing-android-malware-infections.ars
Then again....
Juniper is in the business of selling security products to businesses.
So while we have no reason to doubt the soundness of the firm's methodology, its results should be taken with a grain of salt.

jalyst
2011-11-20, 18:36
Looks like this old Amazon entry (official Amazon listing) has come live again
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/11/20/nokia-n9-amazon-usa/
Didn't look closely but I don't think there's a 64GB listed... surprise, surprise...
Nor a white one for that matter..... :(

lolloo
2011-11-21, 07:56
Looks like

Thanks jalyst, luv your informative links... please keep going.

jalyst
2011-11-24, 12:37
The juggernaut is coming....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/23/galaxy-nexus-shipping-now-in-america-unlocked-for-750-through/

afaq
2011-11-24, 13:13
Jalyst did you get an N9 yet? just curious.

Also did anyone else see this LG phone that looks very similar to the N9's body?

http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/24/lg-and-prada-tie-knot-again-release-smartphone-2012-kind-looks-like-nokia-n9/

jalyst
2011-11-24, 20:33
Jalyst did you get an N9 yet? just curious.

No :(
No White N9 in Australia.

Also did anyone else see this LG phone that looks very similar to the N9's body?

http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/24/lg-and-prada-tie-knot-again-release-smartphone-2012-kind-looks-like-nokia-n9/

Wow, rip job....
Must be done by compal maybe?
Same folks that did Lumia for Nokia.

afaq
2011-11-27, 18:05
Saw the Lumia on display (in its glory) all over Westfield Stratford, London. They have so many posters, banners and Nokia representatives its unbelievable. Saw this display outside a 3 store and couldnt help but smile seeing that the battery was dead!


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6049/6412743099_1a13f433a0_b.jpg

jalyst
2011-11-27, 18:51
Saw the Lumia on display (in its glory) all over Westfield Stratford, London.
They have so many posters, banners and Nokia representatives its unbelievable.
Saw this display outside a 3 store and couldnt help but smile seeing that the battery was dead!

LOL, oh the irony.... :D

afaq
2011-11-27, 19:29
Had a good chat with the clueless salesman too. Didn't reveal my n9 and asked
- does this have swype?
Salesman- what's swype?

- does the browser support flash??
Salesman- no but soon html5 will be here. Few years from now.

- specs?
Salesman- 16Gb only...

-what browser?
Salesman - internet explorer...

I Teased him a little more and walked away. Sad because n9 itself isn't a winner in some of those categories,.

jalyst
2011-11-27, 20:24
Sigh, very tempted.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/27/droid-4-official-pics-and-razr-with-keyboard-confirming-specs-le/
still getting the White N9 for sure, I'm going to have no money this xmas :)

afaq
2011-11-27, 20:33
Wait for the white. Droid Never appealed to me for some reason.

jalyst
2011-11-28, 15:55
Oh yeah I'll still get a N9 64GB for sure.
But I've got a tough choice on my hands for which marquee Android to get.
There's now about 4x on my short-list!
Next phone is WP or iOS, haven't decided yet, & is still about 6mth+ away.

afaq
2011-11-28, 16:29
I'd wait a few months - Q1 will surely see heaps of ICS Androids coming and as the Nexus is in par with current releases of Android, I imagine Samsung will release their own ICS (i know Nexus is Samsung but its also google) - Galaxy S3?

Though id be tempted if they released a good HWKB device.

jalyst
2011-11-29, 19:43
Yeah it's a tough one, SGSIII was already on my extended short-list, keeps getting bigger :)
This Nexus wasn't anywhere near as aggressive from a hw perspective as the SGSII was when it's released in Jan.*
I'm guessing the same thing will happen for the SGSIII....

*might've been few mths later in 1st markets

sixracer
2011-11-30, 06:46
I wish i could do custom names for all my Accounts. I have 12 to do calendar syncing, a few email accounts, chat, FB, and etc. It is getting confusing.

jalyst
2011-12-01, 16:34
I wish i could do custom names for all my Accounts. I have 12 to do calendar syncing, a few email accounts, chat, FB, and etc. It is getting confusing.

So do a feature-request via the bug-tracker
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/
IIRC there is a way to do that...

Make sure you spell-out your request clearly, and make your argument compelling.
If you can convince enough people to vote, it may be included in PR1.2 or beyond.

And there's a thread dedicated to discussing the bug-tracker here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80075

jalyst
2011-12-03, 16:55
L800 Vs N9.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=saDc_sPt4SY
Not sure how he gets to his "tie" conclusion, but overall he's pretty neutral.

The overall winner is clear IMO, tis the N9+Maemo6x :)
900/901 + Tango may be a different story though.
Even if the N9 gets PR1.2 around the same time.

Certainly Nokia's true WP's out around Sept or Q4 + Apollo will surpass the N9.
The hw will be far too compelling, and the combo of MS "&" Nokia working on the OS.
Plus the fact that Nokia may have slowed resources toward Maemo (even more) since Q2.
Will mean there's no chance it can maintain an edge.

BigBadGuber!
2011-12-03, 17:01
NOKIA already has a second rate team work on Harmattan....its only going to get worse

jalyst
2011-12-03, 18:53
^ A team w/more limited resources at their disposal than would otherwise have been, yes.

GSM arena also agrees the N9 is better 'overall'
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800-review-686.php

SamGan
2011-12-04, 12:15
Certainly Nokia's true WP's out around Sept or Q4 + Apollo will surpass the N9.
The hw will be far too compelling, and the combo of MS "&" Nokia working on the OS.
Plus the fact that Nokia may have slowed resources toward Maemo (even more) since Q2.
Will mean there's no chance it can maintain an edge.

How do you know this? Can you look into the future?

WP7 phones are crippled by the OS. The only way Apollo can surpass the N9 is to forsake the opaque file system, get rid of Zune dependency, put in USB mass storage mode, add support for micro-SD card and allow bluetooth file transfer. It should also add true multitasking and get rid of the 5 (fake) multitasking apps limit. Don't forget to allow developers more access to the OS to create more meaningful apps. Come to think of it better add in wi-fi hotspot and internet tethering too which all self-respecting mobile OS already have.

Do you think Microsoft will do all these? They strike at the core of Microsoft's design philosophy - ape Apple, dumb down the system and maintain tight control over users with Zune. But if MS doesn't overturn their design philosophy WP7 will still be the crippled, fenced up, closed OS which keeps users at arms length like ios. And it will continue to be rejected by most users and command only a few percent market share. As for why Apple can and MS can't, don't ask. Just accept that some can and some can't. Buying an iphone is mostly an emotional decision for Apple fans.

Too many people have predicted WP7's success on the basis of two giants collaborating together. If size is important WP7 should be highly successful now instead of the miserly 1.5% global share it commands now. Isn't Microsoft big enough? Others say Lumia must succeed because of Nokia's massive promotion. Is that so? Analysts are scrambling to cut down Lumia projected sales this Q4 from 2,000,000 to 1,000,000 and now 500,000. Even the last figure is looking shaky.

jalyst
2011-12-04, 18:33
I dunno, I'm sure many of those things you cite are on the road-map.
(IIRC WiFi tethering's already in Mango, it's just not there for older handsets, or thanks to carrier restrictions)
Plus the sheer hype alone is scary...
The masses don't care about the feature counts.
Unfortunately it's that lame term, "ecosystem".
Serve them up all the online goodies and then just make it all work.
They won't care (or even know) that they can't do a multitude of more obscure things.
That can come later (if needs be) by forking out more $ for apps/services.
I just hope we hear more about Meltemi + Qt5 + SwipeUX* soon.
The silence is deafening.....

*please dear god open it up more

afaq
2011-12-05, 10:52
Was in a phone store over the weekend and saw someone staring at the Lumia. I heard them ask their friend if they should buy the Nokia or go for the Galaxy S2. I couldnt help but interrupt and tell them to get the Galaxy.

I felt a little dirty afterwards but quickly recovered as I reminded myself i'm not Nokia's bit*ch. I just couldnt see a clueless customer jump on the Wp7 wagon especially after I heard a Nokia sales representative tell him the Lumia will meet all his 'needs'. E.g.

- 16Gb storage? dont worry. You can use SkyDrive and store all your data in the cloud.
- Flash? HTML5 is the future anyway. Few years away.

Pissed me off as I just cant believe Nokia/MS is using the cloud argument to sell devices with only 16GB storage. I asked about data caps and I was told to "take it up with your network provider". He went on to tell me that no one hits the 1GB data usage mark anyway. :mad:

afaq
2011-12-05, 10:57
Also had my first "Is that a Lumia phone!!!" from a stranger. I told them it was the N9 and that ended the conversation.

jalyst
2011-12-06, 04:00
Swipe-down to close, windows 8x
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/04/swipe-down-to-close-app-now-included-on-windows-8-video/

jalyst
2011-12-12, 19:10
Any general chit chat to be had?

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/11/full-angry-birds-will-come-to-n9-at-some-point/
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/12/white-n9-gets-released-officially/

scapegoat845
2011-12-12, 19:13
Any general chit chat to be had?

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/11/full-angry-birds-will-come-to-n9-at-some-point/
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/12/white-n9-gets-released-officially/
How bout this... ?
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/12/qt-heading-to-windows-8-tablets/

jalyst
2011-12-12, 19:21
Yeah saw that, can't hurt anyone really, good for everyone IMO.

http://swipe.nokia.com/design/
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/12/12/new-software-at-navifirm-new-belle-incoming-soon-for-nokia-n8c7-new-lumia-white-n9-with-almost-global-country-variants/

I'm taking-off very soon, & will be away for a mth+
Ah the festive season... ;-P

scapegoat845
2011-12-12, 19:22
Yeah saw that, can't hurt anyone really, good for everyone IMO.

http://swipe.nokia.com/design/

U order snow white yet !? ;)

tissot
2011-12-12, 19:30
You got some nerves of steel jalyst. :)

My original idea was to wait for Cyan N9.... the day i could get some N9, no matter the color, i did. ;)

jalyst
2011-12-12, 19:46
U order snow white yet !? ;)

Not available in Oz... :(
I'm going to contact Nokia Australia soon.
I'm not 100% sure I want that color...
I just want it here so I can compare it alongside the black 64GB.
I do prefer the white, but I may change my mind when I'm looking at both.

Niwakame
2011-12-12, 20:24
I think white will accumulate dirt very quick.

afaq
2011-12-14, 19:45
Heard an Ad for the N9 here in Pakistan on a local station. It started with the famous nokia jingle and then the voice said in a quite heavy base "The new phone from Nokia: N9. Go to swipe.nokia.com for more info".
I jumped out of my car seat as I thought the N9 was a non existent device but then I quickly realised i'm in Asia.

This was a few days after i saw giant posters for the N9 too.

myrjola
2011-12-14, 21:16
Nice description of the N9 User Interface (developer oriented):

Nokia N9 UX Guidelines
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/ux/index.html

Maj3stic
2011-12-14, 21:42
Some interesting stuff
http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2011/12/14/nokia-live-view-beta-now-available-for-nokia-n9

marrat
2011-12-15, 06:39
You got some nerves of steel jalyst. :)

My original idea was to wait for Cyan N9.... the day i could get some N9, no matter the color, i did. ;)

My original plan was the same, and I ended up like you...

By the way, nice family portrait below! My girlfriend now has the Magenta N9 and I have to say in real life it looks absolutely stunning. Even I as a man would show it proudly to others! :D

javid
2011-12-15, 15:48
Heard an Ad for the N9 here in Pakistan on a local station. It started with the famous nokia jingle and then the voice said in a quite heavy base "The new phone from Nokia: N9. Go to swipe.nokia.com for more info".
I jumped out of my car seat as I thought the N9 was a non existent device but then I quickly realised i'm in Asia.

This was a few days after i saw giant posters for the N9 too.

Afaq
Thanks for the info – so you’re in Pak?
My wife is there and has a black 64GB N9 that I bought in Qatar recently – I am in the US and travel to pak often – good to see that nokia is advertising the N9 there- saw an ad in Karachi that a Pakistani tech site had snapped but this is the first time I have heard anyone mention actual audio/video ads
Did you say you have an N9? Do you use a case other than the one supplied?
I have another reason why I ask – she has Ufone as service provider and I did submit a bug to the bug tracker – but it seems that it might be a service issue and not a N9 issue – bug # 325 – SMS length > approx. 100 chars don’t seem to be actually sent – they seem to be sent – but never received on my end on my N8
Can you please try?

If anyone else wants to try and replicate - id appreciate it...
iv been lurking - watching this board since august time....watching the N9 news and its good to find all the good info here....

afaq
2011-12-15, 19:55
I am in Pak visiting family for a while. Bought my N9 from Dubai. It really is a rare device but this is the only place where people know the device and recognise it easily. The marketing is no where like the Lumia is in Europe but its pretty good. No other manufacturer is closing in on Nokia thought i do sense HTC/Samsung trying their best. iPhone remains a toy.

I use the standard black case. Works fine. Pleased with it. I meant to see if I could find other accessories for it. I'm going to raja bazar tomorrow in islamabad so will see what chinese imported goods are available for our N9.

I would love to test this bug. But just noticed I dont see a word count in SMS. Any easy way to ensure i reach the 100 chars to carry out a successful test.

jalyst
2011-12-16, 17:16
Nice description of the N9 User Interface (developer oriented):
Nokia N9 UX Guidelines
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/ux/index.html

Hmm that used to be here
http://www.developer.nokia.com/swipe/ux/
And it was called: Harmattan UX Guidelines
Now it redirects to where you linked, & is called:
Nokia N9 UX Guidelines

qorax
2011-12-16, 19:02
Nokia N9 : The "Unfollow" Commercial
http://advertising.chinasmack.com/2011/nokia-n9-unfollow-features-androgynous-fan-bingbing.html
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9207/n9unfollow.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/n9unfollow.jpg/)

Nokia-China's "Unfollow" ad depicts a young woman as she tries to differentiate herself from the rest of the pack...

She says:
-If others choose to endure, then I choose to resist.
-If others choose to compromise, then I choose to fight.
-It doesn’t matter if the future will be brilliant, I won’t give up on today.
-You may think I’m crazy. As I think everyone else is too ordinary.
-I am true. I will show my true self.

This is worth watching, thus I thought of sharing with u guys [if u haven't already seen it yet]... pls have a peek.

Qorax

javid
2011-12-16, 19:32
I am in Pak visiting family for a while. Bought my N9 from Dubai. It really is a rare device but this is the only place where people know the device and recognise it easily. The marketing is no where like the Lumia is in Europe but its pretty good. No other manufacturer is closing in on Nokia thought i do sense HTC/Samsung trying their best. iPhone remains a toy.

I use the standard black case. Works fine. Pleased with it. I meant to see if I could find other accessories for it. I'm going to raja bazar tomorrow in islamabad so will see what chinese imported goods are available for our N9.

I would love to test this bug. But just noticed I dont see a word count in SMS. Any easy way to ensure i reach the 100 chars to carry out a successful test.

Ah yes - we went to teh hafeez center in lahore - bought a couple of nokia cases - one that had a wristlet and a zip and one that was a pouch - still looking for another wristlet type case...
since i dont have the N9 - i cant say for sure - but i was pretty sure that the character count was visible.... i know that conversation view is different to the N8 message view - but i thought it was there - perhaps someone there could chime in?
The kink in the "bug" might be that she is sending sms internationally - and perhaps it doesnt like the "+" or needs the "00" in front of the country code- but i got her to send to my UK o2 sim - no problems but cant get long sms to come through to my US att sim...
she had a nokia supernova before - still has it - and that seemed to work ok - i have held off getting her to switch too many times as im rather nervous of popping that micro sim in and out...

tissot
2011-12-16, 21:07
My original plan was the same, and I ended up like you...

By the way, nice family portrait below! My girlfriend now has the Magenta N9 and I have to say in real life it looks absolutely stunning. Even I as a man would show it proudly to others! :D

That's indeed some nice collection. And i agree, actually seeing that magenta it was much better than i thought it was.
Getting myself Cyan 800 so i at least get similar phone with the color i want.

Maybe in 2 years time i buy the white N9 to complete the collection. :D

qorax
2011-12-18, 08:53
I've purchased two N9s & going for the third !

I don't know why, but due to some inconceivable reason I went & purchased the 'Blue' [Cyan] one today. The store didn't have the 'red' [Magenta] one & asked me to visit them after a week.

I already have the Black N9... now waiting for the Red. I guess I've gone bonkers [as someone rightly pointed me before!].

Quirky me, I'm deeply in love with this phone !!!

This 'wow factor' hasn't been noticed with any since the iPhone 3G was launched...

The N9 is haute couture !

qorax
2011-12-18, 08:56
The Nokia N9 launch-event in Dubai-UAE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE2WEGbq1A

jalyst
2011-12-18, 14:11
That's indeed some nice collection. And i agree, actually seeing that magenta it was much better than i thought it was.
Getting myself Cyan 800 so i at least get similar phone with the color i want.

Maybe in 2 years time i buy the white N9 to complete the collection. :D


Nooo tissot, why are you abandoning ship!?!
That's exactly what Elop & co. want you to do :(

I'm not sure if you've been following closely recently.
But you can get N9 for pretty decent prices in NA now.*
And with good support via places like negri electronics etc.
Of course not as great outright as it would've been, if it had been made officially available.
But much better than it was just a few short months ago.

*haven't been following UK closely but I'm sure its similar

qorax
2011-12-18, 22:11
Is Nokia back in the game with N9?

The Nokia-N9 is sleek, beautiful, intuitive, smooth, addictive - if I may say and it is amazing[I]!

So given its awesomeness, is Nokia now back in the consumer smartphone game?

Short answer, No.
Why? Because they messed up - and we helped.

The N9 is an absolutely awesome piece of kit. A sturdy, functional, well polished and feature-complete device. Heck the browser even supports multi-touch events.

So if this device is so good, why aren't they back in the game?

Because the N9 does not represent the "future" of Nokia. It is the last of the Meego powered devices that Nokia plans. Their future aligns tightly with Microsoft and focuses on shipping devices with the Windows Phone 7 operating system.

We did this

We all thought Nokia was down and out, a company that once dominated the mobile industry seemed destined to fade slowly into the night. I suspect some very talented engineers at Nokia, however, felt differently and put an incredible amount of work into creating both Meego and the N9.

It is 'we' who are to be blamed. B'coz all of us had been doubting Nokia and all along were predicting Nokia to fail. This is what that led Nokia to ditch Meego and partner with MS for a future with Windows Phone riddled devices.

[B]What a tremendous shame. Here I hold in my hand a truly awesome piece of technology. One that surely gives its iRivals a serious run for their money. A piece of technology that feels better than any Android phone on the market, but has no future roadmap.

An Apology and a Plea

To the team at Nokia (who may well no longer be there) who crafted this device, let me say - "I'm sorry. You deserved better."

To the Nokia management and decision makers, please reconsider your decision to move away from Meego and focus on the WP-OS. Not only have you shown that what you had with Meego was excellent, I believe you are potentially coupling yourself to a product roadmap in WP7 that does not align well with a mobile technology company. Definitely MS and WP7 are not the best fit for Nokia.

Spread the Word

If like me, you have bought an N9 and feel the same way - tell your friends. Tell your fellow developers, and tell your clients who you build mobile apps / websites for. This is a device that deserves respect and serious consideration.

My belief is the jury is still out within Nokia on Meego. And adoption & positive feedback on the N9 could definitely influence future decisions. Coupled with the generally poor response that Windows Phone 7 has had (I still don't know anyone who really cares about it) I genuinely believe that Meego has a fighting chance...

But then, what do I know. I thought WebOS could have changed the world...

Qorax
__________________________________________________ ________
Extracted from: http://www.distractable.net/mobile/nokia-back-in-game-with-n9

jalyst
2011-12-19, 08:05
Actually I think tissot already owns a N9, I forgot that :)

marrat
2011-12-19, 09:24
Nooo tissot, why are you abandoning ship!?!
That's exactly what Elop & co. want you to do :(

I'm not sure if you've been following closely recently.
But you can get N9 for pretty decent prices in NA now.*
And with good support via places like negri electronics etc.
Of course not as great outright as it would've been, if it had been made officially available.
But much better than it was just a few short months ago.

*haven't been following UK closely but I'm sure its similar

In Germany, the N9's price is already on par with the Lumia 800's. Both are slightly under 500 € for the 16 GB variant (all colors).

jalyst
2011-12-19, 10:19
What's more concerning is that the Lumia's already at parity.
At that rate it'll be significantly cheaper in another mth or so.
Then again it always should've been "slightly" cheaper...
Given that hw-wise it's substantially more limited, & even OS-wise in many respects.

tissot
2011-12-19, 17:41
Actually I think tissot already owns a N9, I forgot that :)

Owned it since day one, paid extra from it just to get it early. :D N9 will be one of the rare phones i'm going to keep till the end. I just happen to be phone freak also so i'm certainly going to try out what WP is all about.


Btw this Home screen settings seems like a really cool app.
Allows the orientation locking of the home screen to be configured.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/19/home-screen-settings-landscape-home-screens-to-n9/
http://store.ovi.com/content/226693

jalyst
2011-12-19, 17:56
Owned it since day one, paid extra from it just to get it early. :D N9 will be one of the rare phones i'm going to keep till the end.

Glad to hear that mate! ;)

Btw this Home screen settings seems like a really cool app.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/19/home-screen-settings-landscape-home-screens-to-n9/
http://store.ovi.com/content/226693

I have that mod listed in my how-to's/fixes/mods/apps/other thread.*
I wasn't aware of an app, I might add it to my killer apps list, thanks.
Hmmm, it really is quite a simple DIY mod/twk...
Not sure it's worthy of being added to killer apps.

*Might not be there yet...
About to markedly increase the content in the OP.
Been gathering heaps of content in some text files.

qorax
2011-12-19, 20:15
Guys,

Is there anywhere 3D [or Animated] Screensavers available for the N9?

Qorax
Ps.: Pardon me if this is repetitive... 'coz the 'search' window didn't yield any.

myrjola
2011-12-20, 18:05
Couple of nice new apps (available from Nokia Store):

MeeScan, application for scanning 1-d and 2-d barcodes, such as UPC, QR, and Data Matrix code.
http://store.ovi.com/content/231518

CutePress, a WordPress app.
http://store.ovi.com/content/231403

jalyst
2011-12-20, 18:40
Guys,
Is there anywhere 3D [or Animated] Screensavers available for the N9?
Qorax
Ps.: Pardon me if this is repetitive... 'coz the 'search' window didn't yield any.

Not aware of any sorry.

qorax
2011-12-25, 06:54
N9 Wallpapers

This is my current wallpaper on the Cyan N9:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3145/avatarn9wallpaper.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/avatarn9wallpaper.jpg/)

I'm finding it pretty cool, it kind of augments the overall look of the cyan model. Thus thought of sharing.

This is the site where by far the best stock of N9 wallpapers r available:
http://nokian9wallpapers.com/

Qorax

litemotiv
2011-12-26, 12:17
This is my current wallpaper on the N9:


There are already two dedicated wallpaper threads here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80116
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1114857

:)

qorax
2011-12-27, 10:00
Nokia N9 featured at Stockholm Fashion Week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hxMEoAE1EtY

jalyst
2011-12-27, 13:03
That's oooooold....
T'was posted in the epic (now dead) N9 thread heaps of times months ago.

qorax
2011-12-28, 07:12
The 'inside look' at Nokia-N9

I know Jalyst had posted this earlier [on 07/10/2011], but yet couldn't resist myself from putting-it-up once again. Sorry fellas.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4524/n9dismantled.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/n9dismantled.jpg/)
Guts of the Nokia-N9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mSJtUbnM46E

Here's how the N9 is dismantled. Remember, though the video is a step-by-step instruction guide for disassembling the N9 - it is seriously NOT RECOMMENDED to be attempted. It should just be taken on its visual value - to have a peek inside our beloved phone.

Qorax

automagic68
2011-12-28, 08:38
IMHO the motherboard is very small.

tissot
2011-12-28, 21:25
Nokia Link is finally updated to support Vista and XP. Not that i would use it, but good to know. ;)
Via http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/28/nokia-link-for-n9-finally-supports-vista-and-xp-also-itunes-smart-playlists-support/

Download http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-link/download_and_installation

BigBadGuber!
2011-12-28, 21:37
Phone with a small brain

qorax
2011-12-29, 02:40
Phone with a small brain

Very human I'd say!!!

qorax
2011-12-29, 05:40
Nokia’s best 2011 videos

Twelve (12) cool, important, futuristic & nostalgic Nokia videos r placed here... which surely deserves our relook.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/12/28/nokia-best-2011-videos/

The following three r a must see:
1. Progression of the Nokia Tune with time
2. Nokia GEM -- a hint into the future of cellphones
3. Nokia Kinetic -- the flexible handset

Take a peek fellas !

Qorax

automagic68
2011-12-29, 06:43
I've been reading Lumia800 vs N9 comparison reviews and they all agree that the Lumia800's keyboard is better. Does Nokia have any plans to put the N9 keyboard on par with Lumia800's? I know the main pros of the Lumia800 keyboard are the next letter prediction and auto-correct. Since the N9 will be my first full touchscreen phone, I'm hoping I won't miss the N900's physical qwerty.

tissot
2011-12-29, 18:58
N9 keyboard has also been thanked a lot on the reviews. Nokia has probably created the best tactile feedback for the keyboard there is on N9. iPhone and N9 keyboards are different, but i would rank them about the same.
iPhones advantage over N9 could be that it knows to throw special characters on the main keyboard when you need them (example when typing email address there's @, typing domain name, you got .com), not needing to go in to miscellaneous characters

Though Lumia 800 might indeed just have the best keyboard of any TS phone i have tried. Coming from a guy who have owned, or owns GS, Iphone 4, N9 and Lumia 800.
It got amazing way to register just the right buttons even when typing quite carelessly.

qorax
2011-12-29, 23:00
Nokia N9 - The Perfect Clones

Guys,

Be careful... the perfect clones of the N9 are here. Except for the screen - which should be an easy giveaway - the built, form & sleekness of the 'original' are all there. Pls have a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7hUjLQKvEMA#!

Qorax

scapegoat845
2011-12-29, 23:04
Nokia N9 - The Perfect Clones

Guys,

Be careful... the perfect clones of the N9 are here. Except for the screen - which should be an easy giveaway - the built, form & sleekness of the 'original' are all there. Pls have a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7hUjLQKvEMA#!

Qorax

Jeez.... Well, while we're on the subject of clones or "phony's", check this out.....
http://www.redmondpie.com/zephyr-jailbreak-tweak-brings-n9-like-swipe-multitasking-gestures-to-the-iphone-download-now-video/

qorax
2011-12-29, 23:15
Jeez.... Well, while we're on the subject of clones or "phony's", check this out.....
http://www.redmondpie.com/zephyr-jailbreak-tweak-brings-n9-like-swipe-multitasking-gestures-to-the-iphone-download-now-video/

Thanx for the share...

So, Et Tu, Brute? -Apple going the Samsung way!
Something our N9 to actually be proud of - Aha, what a Swipe !

Qorax

optimistprime
2011-12-29, 23:33
I've been reading Lumia800 vs N9 comparison reviews and they all agree that the Lumia800's keyboard is better. Does Nokia have any plans to put the N9 keyboard on par with Lumia800's? I know the main pros of the Lumia800 keyboard are the next letter prediction and auto-correct. Since the N9 will be my first full touchscreen phone, I'm hoping I won't miss the N900's physical qwerty.

no matter what, youll be missing the n900's keyboard.

jalyst
2012-01-02, 07:30
I've been reading Lumia800 vs N9 comparison reviews and they all agree that the Lumia800's keyboard is better..

Most of the reviews I read a few months ago suggested the N9's VKB was better.
Not hugely so......

But I'm not surprised "popular opinion's" shifted, doesn't mean it's the reality though.

F2thaK
2012-01-02, 07:40
no matter what, youll be missing the n900's keyboard.

I dont miss it a bit. I do 90% of my coding/development on my PC, the rest on the device. I access it via SSH over Wifi.

I loved the N900. I had 2, the first was a pre-order.

I cant stop modifying the N9, same as the N900. But its lighter, thinner, more stylish, faster, has better screen, better battery life, seems more mainstream so it gets more Store apps, etc, etc.

For me, the N9 IS the successor of the N900.

qorax
2012-01-02, 07:46
NEW : Time Lapse App for our N9

A new app is available at the Nokia Store: FastMotion Timelapse Camera, developed by Harald Meyer (the same developer who brought us Camera Pro for the N8).

FastMotion timelapse recorder turns N9 into a timelapse (time-series) video recorder. Timelapse videos can be created both from the live camera, as well as from previously captured pics (eg. the gallery).

Qorax

jalyst
2012-01-05, 11:06
Random readings, some raise questions in relation to N9/Maemo6x:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/18/galaxy-nexus-users-reporting-touchscreen-trouble-lower-scores-i/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/21/verizon-sidesteps-galaxy-nexus-antennagate-claims-signal-indica/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/21/samsung-captivate-glide-review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/24/motoactv-torn-down-and-rooted-turned-into-a-tablet-for-ants/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/25/swype-gets-a-new-beta-adopts-dragon-dictation-for-speech-to-tex/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/26/windowbreak-project-seeks-universal-developer-unlock-tool-for-wi/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/02/mimo-magic-touch-screen-combined-with-wp7-emulator-to-make-impro/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/02/microsoft-approved-windows-phone-7-unlocker-discontinued-for-th

More useful info. being continually added to the guide in my sig of course.
Mainly to the Google doc now....

pycage
2012-01-05, 11:21
I've been reading Lumia800 vs N9 comparison reviews and they all agree that the Lumia800's keyboard is better.


Having both, I strongly disagree! The Lumia's keyboard is not bad, but the one of the N9 is still far better. I rate the keyboard by the amount of typos I make while writing. Also the keys on the Lumia are smaller and harder to hit.


Does Nokia have any plans to put the N9 keyboard on par with Lumia800's?


No, please not! That would be a huge step back.

tissot
2012-01-05, 18:27
I got a disagree with that. I find Lumia 800 keyboard just maybe the best there is. Prefer it over N9, iPhone 4 and GS (phone i have owned).
N9's haptic feedback might be the best there is. Though after using iPhone, GS i have kind of been put away by the haptics. Lumia 800 just gives me less errors and i can type fastest on it.

Just don't get me wrong here. As far as i'm concerned we are talking about the best ts keyboard i have tried against the second or third best ts keyboard i have tried.

pycage
2012-01-05, 18:43
Personally, I find that I make more errors typing on the Lumia keyboard than on the N9 keyboard. I'm also missing the tactile feedback on the Lumia, and the keys are smaller.
But otherwise the Lumia keyboard is an excellent keyboard, no doubt about that. But IMHO the N9 keyboard is even better.
I'd even say the N9 keyboard is better for typing long texts than the N900's hw keyboard (where the keys are also very small).

qorax
2012-01-06, 04:55
The Evolution of Mobile Phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hQUt8C4iVKc

Uploaded in 2008 - but a very nice watch till date.

qorax
2012-01-08, 17:42
Arabic Nokia N9 in Dubai
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/830/n9inarabic.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/n9inarabic.jpg/)

jalyst
2012-01-09, 14:43
Random readings

Nokia Community Awards
http://nokiaconnects.com/nokia-community-awards-2011/

N9 doing surprisingly well in China, better than SGSII!?*
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/30/top-5-of-the-most-wanted-smartphones-in-china-includes-2-nokias/
But marketing's already started to wind-down heaps...
And WP's already being pushed, despite the 1st ph's not actually coming till H2 2012.

Nokia 900, quite bland improvements over 800, not even a FF-cam!?
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/03/pocketnow-leaks-lumia-900ace-specifications/

Holy crud now that's the big bucks... sigh...
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/04/lumia-900-to-get-hero-status-on-att-marketing-budget-around-200-million-wow/

N9 Apps -readers choice: Nokia Conversations
http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/01/04/nokia-n9-apps-the-readers-choice/

Something for Meltemi? Wish we could actually hear more freaking detail already.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/06/nokia-buys-smarterphone-new-mobile-os/

Molome
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/07/molome-share-and-modify-your-pictures-on-your-n9/

*I loved that Chinese ad w/the chick called "Unfollow", it's been pulled from Youtube.
There's only a crappy quality version left, with no English sub-titles etc.

marrat
2012-01-10, 14:25
Seeing that the first operators which initially had the N9 in their portfolio (Vodafone in Oz, T-Mobile in Austria) have already discontinued it in favor for the Lumia, I today ordered me a second N9 (this time in Cyan, the color I originally wanted). Now I have a spare as I fear the N9 will no longer be available anywhere by end of this year... And I don't see any other mobile replacing it for me in the foreseeable future...

Dared
2012-01-10, 14:44
Seeing that the first operators which initially had the N9 in their portfolio (Vodafone in Oz, T-Mobile in Austria) have already discontinued it in favor for the Lumia, I today ordered me a second N9 (this time in Cyan, the color I originally wanted). Now I have a spare as I fear the N9 will no longer be available anywhere by end of this year... And I don't see any other mobile replacing it for me in the foreseeable future...

Yeah i got myself a 2nd n9 too from expansys as a spare. Very happy as it's a made in Finland one... Unlike the made in China ones we get in Australia

marrat
2012-01-10, 14:55
Yeah i got myself a 2nd n9 too from expansys as a spare. Very happy as it's a made in Finland one... Unlike the made in China ones we get in Australia

Me in Germany gets a "EU-Import" so it is almost guaranteed to be Made in Finland. My black 64 GB from Denmark is also Made in Finland, so the new Cyan 16 GB should also be.

qorax
2012-01-10, 15:42
Seeing that the first operators which initially had the N9 in their portfolio (Vodafone in Oz, T-Mobile in Austria) have already discontinued it in favor for the Lumia, I today ordered me a second N9 (this time in Cyan, the color I originally wanted). Now I have a spare as I fear the N9 will no longer be available anywhere by end of this year... And I don't see any other mobile replacing it for me in the foreseeable future...

True.
Thus, I got all the three colors... and all r made in Finland, thanx to our Dubai purchases. I'm now waiting for the "White".

I also seriously believe that by the yr-end our N9 shall become a 'collector's item'.

afaq
2012-01-10, 16:11
Where do I share my frustration with

- Battery drain of incredible proportions
- Incredible Lag
- Apps crashing and becoming non responsive

qorax
2012-01-11, 05:34
WhatsApp Petition for MeeGo:
One last push before contacting WhatsApp !

Guys,

It's not about whether WhatsApp is big, omni-present, I want it etc. It's about the longitivtiy of our MeeGo. Thus, if more apps & worldwide support 'matters' towards that end - so be it.

Lets join hands in filing our support to what Constantinos started in Nov-2011... even Sotiris Makriyiannis, Nokia’s Head of MeeGo Applications when contacted, felt that if a sensible number of support was found - they could start sending letters to try and negotiate something with WhatsApp.

I don't use WhatsApp, but I do want MeeGo forever. My Nokia Blog is promoting this last push [see below link]... so, for the love of God [uh, MeeGo] LET'S DO IT !
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/11/whatsapp-petition-for-meego-in-talks-with-head-of-meego-apps-one-last-push-before-contacting-whatsapp/

Here's the link to the Petition, once again:
http://www.change.org/petitions/whatsapp-inc-develop-a-nokia-n9-meego-harmattan-version-of-whatsapp-messenger

Qorax
__________________________________________________ ___
Original request thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80186

qorax
2012-01-11, 06:07
Folks,
Anyone has been using the Nokia Play 360° with their N9? How do u find it? I'm thinking of fetching a pair asap.

Regards,
Qorax

marrat
2012-01-11, 06:57
Folks,
Anyone has been using the Nokia Play 360° with their N9? How do u find it? I'm thinking of fetching a pair asap.

Regards,
Qorax

I do have one of them. NFC pairing is a dream and sound is really awesome for such a small speaker. I'm planning to get a second one in the next time.

qorax
2012-01-11, 07:15
I do have one of them. NFC pairing is a dream and sound is really awesome for such a small speaker. I'm planning to get a second one in the next time.

Thanx marrat.
On the sound quality... r they just like any of those laptop/desktop speakers [of course with better specs] we place on our tables, or they comparative to more traditional music system speakers?

marrat
2012-01-11, 08:26
Thanx marrat.
On the sound quality... r they just like any of those laptop/desktop speakers [of course with better specs] we place on our tables, or they comparative to more traditional music system speakers?

Somewhere in between I'd say. The quality is definitely better than your average PC speaker set even with pretty good bass reproduction (not too thumpy of course, lacking some more diameter).

jonan
2012-01-11, 09:52
Folks,
Anyone has been using the Nokia Play 360° with their N9? How do u find it? I'm thinking of fetching a pair asap.

Regards,
Qorax

Played with the 360s in the shop and sound quality is decent, louder than I expected and NFC pairing works well. Would like some my self but expensive considering its a single speaker. Waiting for a deal, anyone know any ?

-Jonan

qorax
2012-01-11, 11:56
Somewhere in between I'd say. The quality is definitely better than your average PC speaker set even with pretty good bass reproduction (not too thumpy of course, lacking some more diameter).

Sounds good, I think I will go for it.

qorax
2012-01-11, 12:00
Played with the 360s in the shop and sound quality is decent, louder than I expected and NFC pairing works well. Would like some my self but expensive considering its a single speaker. Waiting for a deal, anyone know any ?

-Jonan

Getting mine from Dubai... they'r around $150/piece.

kiddn97583
2012-01-11, 12:12
It could be free :D:D:D

If you are lucky enough and live in Singapore or Thailand (like 2 months ago)

Singtel is doing a promo while 360 speaker stocks last.
as for Thailand , the promo has already ended :(

Above promo = buy Nokia N9 you get a free 360...
Singapore = with contract
Thailand = no contract needed (but it's over,,,,,)
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Played with the 360s in the shop and sound quality is decent, louder than I expected and NFC pairing works well. Would like some my self but expensive considering its a single speaker. Waiting for a deal, anyone know any ?

-Jonan

tissot
2012-01-11, 12:17
Where do I share my frustration with

- Battery drain of incredible proportions
- Incredible Lag
- Apps crashing and becoming non responsive

Don't have problems with battery or with apps crashing. Main 3 screens have become slower than they where before. had the phone since the very first day it came available anywhere.


I do have one of them. NFC pairing is a dream and sound is really awesome for such a small speaker. I'm planning to get a second one in the next time.

Kind bummed i didn't pick them up for 49 euros when verkkokauppa.com was throwing them out on their new HQ opening.

jalyst
2012-01-11, 18:54
OMFG, why Nokia.... why...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5365/intels-medfield-atom-z2460-arrive-for-smartphones

automagic68
2012-01-12, 01:36
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/11/pr1-2-nokia-n9-update-screenshots-and-changelog-app-folders-video-call-and-much-more/

Looks like we'll be getting video calling:):)

jonan
2012-01-12, 11:46
It could be free :D:D:D

Thailand = no contract needed (but it's over,,,,,)


Wow fantastic deal ! Bought mine about a month ago.

For those in Hong Kong the nokia store has the following promo on the play 360:

Buy one @ $1288 hkd and get second one 50% off.


-Jonan

Nabs
2012-01-13, 05:18
Since this is a N9 general thread, I want to ask something.

What is your N9 color?

marrat
2012-01-13, 08:58
Since this is a N9 general thread, I want to ask something.

What is your N9 color?

Black and Cyan. Girlfriend has Magenta one :D

captainofiron
2012-01-13, 15:49
Is there a Guide for new users of the N9 or Meego?

e.g. like install this and do that first before you get it going?

My game plan so far is to first install the Nokia PC suite that is compatible ( I have XP so from what I understand I cant get NokiaLink) and then start up the phone and try to get the latest software update, then start to sync everything from my N97 (contacts, calendar, music) then sync my google and skype

thoughts? ideas?

Anything essential to have for a top tier MeeGo experience that isnt included in a stock N9?

afaq
2012-01-13, 16:09
Ovi/Nokia store now has a lot of useful customisation apps. Browse the top free section.

Some to get you started

- battery usage
- calendar feed
- cloud gps
- cute tube
- File Manager/File Box
- Heebo (fav game on the store)
- Home screen settings (turn on landscape mode for home screen)
- Internet radio player/ IPradio
- Live view
- MeeBirthdays
- Netview
- QuasarMX (alternative music player)
- ScreenCapture

As for syncing contacts - have them sync to a service rather then simply copying them over. Use MFE to sync with google (if u use/like google?).

Also backup on occasion and move the backup to your computer.

Enjoy

captainofiron
2012-01-13, 16:22
thanks for that, yea the Ovi store availability has seriously gotten larger since I first looked, gone from basically 1 page with ~20 apps to quite a bit more

jalyst
2012-01-13, 17:50
Is there a Guide for new users of the N9 or Meego?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78598
Still needing more volunteer editors for the Google doc.
It could be laid-out much more clearly, so people can more easily find things.

captainofiron
2012-01-13, 18:08
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78598
Still needing more volunteer editors for the Google doc.
It could be laid-out much more clearly, so people can more easily find things.

very nice, I will take a look once I start to dig in to this thing.

qorax
2012-01-16, 13:22
And the Oscar goes to... er, could the Academy Awards move to Nokia Theatre in 2013?
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/14/and-the-oscar-goes-to-stephen-elop-er-could-the-academy-awards-move-to-the-nokia-theatre-in-2013-710-at-costco/comment-page-1/#comment-465445

javid
2012-01-17, 19:00
i have a question related to upgrading the firmware and now that PR1.2 is being mentioned its become a little more important to me...
My wife has a black N9 that i bought for her in Qatar - about 6 weeks ago she got the message to update her firmware - both single updates to apps and the system update.
She's currently on initial firmware; since she has no cellular data plan to speak of - and a very sketchy internet connection (due to intermittent broadband and also power interuptions) what is a reliable way that i can get her N9 updated to PR1.1 (or even 1.2)?
Is there a way i can download the update myself using a reliable broadband connection, save it to a USB stick and then later update her N9? If so, how?

Second question is for those who have been using the rubber case that came with the N9 - what other case/s have you been using along with the rubber case?
Anyone using a case that has a wrist strap?
tia :)

qorax
2012-01-19, 17:54
Enable zoom in video recording on your N9 !
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by SlipKoRnSaad
http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2011/12/meego-harmattan-how-to-enable-zoom-in.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------

In 5 steps you'll be able to zoom during video recording with your lovely N9, I also tested it, it works fine :

1- Enable developer mode (Settings> Security> Developer Mode) if not already done.

2- Download the file camera.conf
http://www.box.com/s/1mjsq0g5kxyk72utiq3n

3- Open Terminal and enable root acces :
-devel-su
-password : rootme

4- Copy the downloaded file in the etc directory:
cp/home/user/MyDocs/camera.conf/etc/camera.conf

5- Restart the device.
/sbin/reboot

Note:
-It can now zoom both with the top bar (like the pictures) and with the volume rockers.
-To remove this tweak just delete the file by repeating the procedure from step 2 to step 5 and type this command:
rm/etc/camera.conf

qorax
2012-01-21, 13:47
N9 Apps : MeeCamHor
[Capture Pictures with FFC]
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5483/n9appmeecamhor.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/n9appmeecamhor.jpg/)

What a horrible name for an App!
But we finally have an app to utilize the FFC on our N9′s to take photos. "Take a photo of yourself everyday to see how much you have changed!" It isn’t a free app, costing CAD$0.99, but it works as advertised, so that should be fine. Even though it should have actually been a free feature - included by default.

Download it here:
http://store.ovi.com/search?q=MeeCamHor

Note: This app requires firmware PR 1.1 or above.

javid
2012-01-22, 18:15
so i am guessing that since nobody has answered my question about an "offline" download and subsequent upgrade of the n9 firmware it isnt possible?
does the NSU "save" a local copy of the firmware file somewhere such that i might be able to copy it and then use it later?
if i could use my fast internet connection which is stable that would be the preferred route then later use that file to upgrade the firmware.
or am i going to have to suffer the intermittent internet and download a approx. 1GB file?

mariusmssj
2012-01-22, 18:25
i have a question related to upgrading the firmware and now that PR1.2 is being mentioned its become a little more important to me...
My wife has a black N9 that i bought for her in Qatar - about 6 weeks ago she got the message to update her firmware - both single updates to apps and the system update.
She's currently on initial firmware; since she has no cellular data plan to speak of - and a very sketchy internet connection (due to intermittent broadband and also power interuptions) what is a reliable way that i can get her N9 updated to PR1.1 (or even 1.2)?
Is there a way i can download the update myself using a reliable broadband connection, save it to a USB stick and then later update her N9? If so, how?

Second question is for those who have been using the rubber case that came with the N9 - what other case/s have you been using along with the rubber case?
Anyone using a case that has a wrist strap?
tia :)

this should have everything for the manual update
http://www.n9fanclub.com/2011/11/how-to-flash-nokia-n9-with-pr-11-on-any.html

javid
2012-01-22, 18:34
this should have everything for the manual update
http://www.n9fanclub.com/2011/11/how-to-flash-nokia-n9-with-pr-11-on-any.html

thanks - am i to assume that with this way of upgrading that the apps that have been downloaded will be no longer there and need to be reloaded?
Does using NSU require reloading of apps?

jaripi
2012-01-22, 19:19
thanks - am i to assume that with this way of upgrading that the apps that have been downloaded will be no longer there and need to be reloaded?
Does using NSU require reloading of apps?

NSU: all integrated apps will be up to date (latest ones, as they are included in that big 1 Gb package), but all other apps, you have to download again ... and it does NOT affect your data either, all your photos, videos, etc. are still there ... so practically, you will need only download those unintegrated apps ... (but to be sure, do a back up in any case, to avoid any loses) ... and be sure that you have the latest NSU (well, if I remember right, NSU want update itself when you start to use it) ...

Typos edited ...

jalyst
2012-01-23, 17:03
Just so folks in the future are aware...
This isn't the general help thread, it's the general chit-chat thread.

We didn't start it for Qns for which answers can be found by searching.
It's meant to be news, facts, & chats about Nokia-related stuff.

Tips/findings can be posted, but it's generally a help-seeker-free zone.

jalyst
2012-01-23, 17:17
<TIP>

I had added that to the N9/x0 guide, but thanks for sharing it with others here.
In the future, can you please post such findings here (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78598) (also see 1st link in my sig).

It's been sticked by the mods, so users are more likely to share their findings.
But lately it's become much quieter than we had hoped for...

qorax
2012-01-24, 14:46
Violinist interrupted by Nokia ringtone, plays the Nokia tune...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4RTNzyxNNm4

Amazing !

jalyst
2012-01-24, 17:23
Violinist interrupted by Nokia ringtone, plays the Nokia tune...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4RTNzyxNNm4
Amazing !

Amusing, in line with the nature of the thread, thanks.
Did you see #158 & #159? Particularly #159....

Cheers.

tebsu
2012-01-24, 18:26
just received my N9 64gb... wow, just amazing.. love this phone !!

jalyst
2012-01-25, 14:44
So Nokia Australia's apparently already more interested in the L800.
A product that's not even announced or in customers hands...
They uploaded a whole bunch of Lumia related videos today:
http://www.youtube.com/user/NokiaAustralia?feature=uploademail_ch#p/u

Plus they stopped heavy marketing of the N9 about 6wks ago.
In mid-Dec, about 1wk before Xmas & the peak shopping period.
In 6mth* the only place we'll be able to buy a N9 is a specialist importer.
What's the bet... :(

*maybe less.

qorax
2012-01-25, 16:35
...In 6mth* the only place we'll be able to buy a N9 is a specialist importer.
What's the bet... :(

*maybe less.

U r right.
And by another 6 -- even they won't have any[sic].

The way E[f]lop is going - our fav form-factor will only be available in L900 [largely] & L800. Did u know, the L900 is now coming-out in the UK & other territories? Sans the LTE though in most. And the grapevine suggests - there's also an AWS compatible model in the pipeline.

Qorax

qorax
2012-01-25, 17:41
No problems with my N9s

I don't know from where ppl r purchasing their handsets; and having scores of issues... I have 4 of them, all colors [B]![/I]], 2 purchased from the same outlet, while the other 2 came from different stores [nothing online], 1 x m/i-China - the rest 3 x m/i-Finland...

And all have:*
(contrary to many reported in this forum)

1. LED blinking while charging & accessing as a storage drive;
2. LED remains steady [glowing] after bty full;
3. No shades/lines on the screen, it is pitch-black;
4. Bty lasts for a day easily, with all sorts of apps accessibility;
5. No heating issues, whatsoever, even while on constant use;
6. Ringer & reception volume [quite] strong/loud;
7. No creaking sound, anywhere, after 1.5 month's use;
8. One fell & went flying on a tiled floor, w/out a scratch, anywhere;
9. Wi-Fi has no issues, easily accessible from all rooms [have 6];
10. PR1.1 updated easily with NSU [waiting for PR1.2 now];
11. Camera shoots awesome [I feel better than my iPhone4;
12. The audio [stereo] of recorded vids is the best in town;
13. My port/slot-covers never came-off / no 'bends' as well;
14. My OEM soft-case is slug-fit - looks awesome - no discoloration yet;
15. Oh, my wife is running her Magenta w/out case - no scratches yet [thank God];
16. We aren't using screen-protecters [don't like them] - Gorilla rocks;
17. We have no issues with our social-feeds [wife's big into it];
18. Emails downloading perfectly, get notifications timely;
19. Typing, Copy-Paste [no issues with the 'dot' after 'space'] is perfect;
20. I perfectly make calls / receive while charging;
21. My screen doesn't 'jerk' while charging, for any thing;
22. Ovi-store downloads well, fast & smooth;
23. SMS notifications arrive timely / perfectly;
24. NFS relay is smooth - 'tapped' with many & checked;
25. 'Reset' / offed few times - nothing changed, no issues.

The only issue I have is with my GPS - it doesn't work[sic], with any.

*This is after 1.5 months of regular use. I'm not using any other phone.

Am I being plain lucky?

Hariainm
2012-01-25, 20:56
See what i found
Pocket RPG: a Unity3D-based online multiplayer RPG for MeeGo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQd8m_8heZQ
Take a look at the video description. I didn't tried it yet, so tell me what you get.
(I DON'T upload neither the video or the link. Just found it searching on youtube)

qorax
2012-01-26, 08:45
Video: The Nokia Assassin
(Trailer, Comedy)
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8850/nokiaassasin.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/nokiaassasin.jpg/)
Do you remember the Nokia Nostalgia post where we looked at the Reddit’s number 1 story which was the indestructible Nokia 3310?

Well, in that fashion, someone has made a short trailer for a fake movie they’ve called the ‘Nokia Assassin’. You can guess what the weapon is...

Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DrlPQt1RDFo

danramos
2012-01-27, 06:08
Video: The Nokia Assassin
(Trailer, Comedy)
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8850/nokiaassasin.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/nokiaassasin.jpg/)
Do you remember the Nokia Nostalgia post where we looked at the Reddit’s number 1 story which was the indestructible Nokia 3310?

Well, in that fashion, someone has made a short trailer for a fake movie they’ve called the ‘Nokia Assassin’. You can guess what the weapon is...

Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DrlPQt1RDFo


Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ACk5x0aKE

jalyst
2012-01-29, 03:34
Get voting everyone!!!
http://awards.ixda.org/entry/2012/nokia-n9-swipe-ui

*EDIT* look like there's a thread for this
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81941

qorax
2012-01-30, 09:34
Nokia is back, but not out of the woods yet
The Lumia 800 puts Nokia back on the map.
http://tbreak.com/tech/2012/01/nokia-is-back-but-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/

qorax
2012-02-03, 04:37
Nokia at the Top of the World !
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7568/nokiaonkilimanjaro.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/nokiaonkilimanjaro.jpg/)

Taken by Marko with his Nokia N8 atop the Kilimanjaro...

Ref: http://www.facebook.com/NokiaUAE

danramos
2012-02-13, 07:34
That's appropriately symbolic alright. Nokia's reached an apex and the only direction left to go in is down. I'm just surprised we didn't see Microsoft's Balmer meet the guy at the top to hop-and-skip him down arm-in-arm. :)

captainofiron
2012-02-13, 13:40
10+ years of Nokia
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/IamStonePhillipsthe1/IMG_6642.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/IamStonePhillipsthe1/IMG_6653.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/IamStonePhillipsthe1/IMG_6649.jpg

I was cleaning out the garage over the weekend, and I found a box with a ton of my old stuff. Popped it open and saw my old phones. Decided to take a group photo, haha

Dave999
2012-02-13, 14:15
Where is your n900? The king among Nokia phones!

captainofiron
2012-02-13, 17:26
Where is your n900? The king among Nokia phones!

lol, I have ATT, so no 3g support, which is why I got the N97 (huge regrets) and not the N900

jalyst
2012-02-19, 19:06
Lumia 800 made by Compal, 710 by Nokia says Savander (bit more to it than just the heading)
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/02/19/lumia-800-made-by-compal-710-by-nokia-says-savander/
There's nothing amazing/surprising about the story, just interesting...

jalyst
2012-02-20, 20:58
If only the N9 had used hw more similar to this, sigh, if only
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/20/panasonic-eluga/
There were rumors to that effect... (along w/the UM8500)

If the 3rd Maemo6x phone had been allowed to proceed.*
We may well have seen something with similar base specs.
And it most probably would be shipping any wk now...

*It was planned as a stop-gap before the 1st "real" MeeGo Medfield.
But only if the 1st Medfield couldn't be delivered till H1 2012 (which now seems apparent).

jpfsn
2012-02-20, 21:41
Was the August 2011 article by Netbooknews.de (http://www.netbooknews.de/46326/nokia-arbeitet-weiterer-meego-plattform-kommt-nokia-tablet/#disqus_thread) rumouring of a second Nokia Meego-based device (notebook) subsequently dismissed?

jalyst
2012-02-20, 23:46
Yeah it's well & truly dead...
Senior management's already made that very clear.
It may live on in a stripped-down form on lower-end devices.
(meltemi project that's rumored to replace S40)

danramos
2012-02-25, 09:01
http://pleco.org/heh/nokiadunce.jpg

jalyst
2012-03-23, 03:59
Dan, this is the thread you should be ranting in.
Not the "Would you buy a N9 successor?" one.
This is the unofficial "soap-box" thread... :D

captainofiron
2012-04-04, 15:22
Where is this App for the N9?

http://nasahackspace.com/2012/03/open-source-tricorder-project.html

qorax
2012-07-31, 15:10
Nokia Blundered & Plundered!

If anyone of us haven't yet read the "Sane CEO Vs. Insane CEO (http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/03/the-ceo-insane-how-to-rescue-nokia.html)" blog, read it now... it's hilarious to soul-searching to a plausible salvaging talkathon. A MUST READ.

Qorax

calosteward
2014-12-23, 08:04
Couple of nice new apps (available from Nokia Store):

MeeScan, application for scanning 1-d and 2-d barcodes (http://www.barcodelib.com/net_barcode_reader/main.html), such as UPC, QR, and Data Matrix code (http://www.barcodelib.com/net_barcode_reader/barcodes/datamatrix.html).
http://store.ovi.com/content/231518

CutePress, a WordPress app.
http://store.ovi.com/content/231403

Most people are now using iphone or android phones. But my Nokia N9 is of great quality, so sometimes I will also use it, thank you for sharing this app, it's refreshing it support my phone now.:)

jalyst
2014-12-23, 12:41
^Now THAT's a massive necro if there ever was one...

Just took a trip down memory lane by quickly skim-reading through much of this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Ruh0ewBVo