Forum: General
2014-09-02, 09:22
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
That is such a fair message gerbick that I feel very good about respecting it as is, no need to dissect an answer. We have some differences of opinion of course, but probably not nearly as much as...
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 15:48
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Isn't most discussion, though?
I think that is absolutely fair that there are different views. I recommend added transparency to Jolla, others recommend secrecy.
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 12:07
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Well, we are all having a conversation (I hope). We have our views, they are not absolute truths and large portions of them are opinions. Neither of us, of course, can know what some strategy we...
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 09:23
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 09:14
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
OK, good that we agree there can be more transparent companies than Jolla has been, because there certainly are many such examples in the world of SMBs. Transparency isn't easy, it isn't an instant...
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 08:12
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
The problem with examples is that some of them a very specific, when taken to the size of Jolla companies. Large stories like Toyota are very simple to communicate, it is much harder to translate...
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Forum: General
2014-09-01, 07:22
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Lots of messages there, before I answer them individually, I think there is something important to understand from my point of view: I am not a FOSS advocate. I don't have any sort of religious...
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Forum: General
2014-08-29, 00:23
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Of course, but it seems common courtesy to tell what is being done to it. Maybe they did in a repair report, but then if so, why not just tell it to those many who asked - isn't TJC for those kinds...
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 19:45
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 19:00
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 18:36
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 18:09
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Come on, people post popcorn images and make jokes all throughout the thread without me quitting. Live a little. Laugh a little. It was a joke.
That said, I believe Jolla has recently used banning...
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 17:56
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Yes, that's what I want.
Because I can't possibly want Jolla to be more transparent and succeed better through the improved community reaction that would bring.
No, wait. I want the latter.
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 13:10
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Again, absolutely nothing wrong with the issues Jolla faced. Easy to understand them all.
Except the part where they chose to stay pretty much silent throughout, not offering any real information....
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 09:39
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Forum: General
2014-08-28, 07:56
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
But let's not ponder in vain, let's ask: Philippe, you said I had missed the answer perhaps. Can you offer now an explanation to the SIM card holder root cause as it seems no explanation has been...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 20:55
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Companies do it all the time, though, provide information on what will be swapped out in such an event. And in the case of the SIM holder, many people had their tricks to keep it running, knowing...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 20:39
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
I don't think Jolla people are evil or arrogant, those are your words, not mine.
But stezz said: "we will tell you what it is when we know what it is". Then in March he said "we have been able to...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 20:03
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
No? Here stezz says they will tell when they know - and then in the last update say they have been able to isolate the root cause, but don't tell what it is, even when asked in the further comments?...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 19:46
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
It is usually common courtesy to tell at least what part is being exchanged in the process. Say, they would have made these two additions:
An update in February: "SIM card holder investigation...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 19:39
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Looking beyond the insults, I still think Jolla could do well by looking in the mirror as an organizational culture and asking could they be more transparent. Could they have handled the troubles...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 17:55
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
Sure. But the point was: Jolla would have been, in my opinion, wise to acknowledge and share through this story. It would have won them tons of goodwill from the early adopter community. Jolla could...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 16:03
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
I find it troubling that common cheering would be used to justify an action.
That is a completely fair question. Unfortunately a lot of these events are already in the past, so they can't...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 06:35
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
And just so that my comment above is clear, here is the jalyst suggestion I was referring to - see page 3 or so of the thread to see the message he was responding to:
See, it doesn't even...
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Forum: General
2014-08-27, 06:01
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Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
A lot of people appreciate Jolla's work and want to see them succeed. I'm not saying fk_lx is in that camp anymore, but please don't group us all together.
I understand fk_lx is Polish? For...
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