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Dave999 2015-02-23 18:44

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1461821)
We ref'd that already, about 9-days ago...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...80#post1460780

No way. I'm nine days late...?!.!.?
http://www.evilenglish.net/wp-conten...9bdca_view.jpg

Dave999 2015-02-25 22:05

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
Flash sale tomorrow. Consider yourself informed.

Hate These flash sales. They are so random

m4r0v3r 2015-02-25 23:47

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
stuck the latest ubuntu devel on a nexus 5, it was ****

jalyst 2015-02-26 16:56

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1462040)
stuck the latest ubuntu devel on a nexus 5, it was ****

Was Sailfish much better, though?

Dave999 2015-02-26 18:11

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1462123)
Was Sailfish much better, though?

No they all are pretty much the same.

http://www.codeandcommand.com/wp-con...r2-660x315.jpg

What differs is that google got tons of value for all kinds of customers :( plus IT must go 1000 java devs for every Qt dev.

m4r0v3r 2015-02-26 18:20

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1462123)
Was Sailfish much better, though?

honestly, not in my opinion, they were missing a ton of functionality, and but jolla imo did the core stuff well, or atleast well enough for me. everything lags on this system, maybe cause its a port but we'll see if the BQ version is more optimized.

Jolla felt like a small company had created it, the Ubuntu OS felt like when we first ran Meego on the N900, laggy as

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462131)
No they all are pretty much the same.

http://www.codeandcommand.com/wp-con...r2-660x315.jpg

What differs is that google got tons of value for all kinds of customers :( plus IT must go 1000 java devs for every Qt dev.

Qt is hard man lol maybe its cause I don't know C++ as well as I do Java, but a 10 sec thing in Java takes me 15 mins in C++, I could just be a terrible programmer

Copernicus 2015-02-26 18:58

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1462133)
Qt is hard man lol maybe its cause I don't know C++ as well as I do Java, but a 10 sec thing in Java takes me 15 mins in C++, I could just be a terrible programmer

Actually, that's kind of the way the two languages were designed, at least at first: something that takes 10 seconds in Java does take quite a bit more time in C++. However, something that takes less than a week in C++ could take weeks in Java, and something that takes a month or more in C++ can be totally unmanageable in Java. Both C++ and Java put an emphasis on object-oriented programming and templates, concepts which support programming-in-the-large; however, C++ more closely follows C's policy of allowing the programmer a wide latitude of freedom, whereas Java tries to hold the programmer's hand as much as possible. So, once you start doing something the designer of the language never thought about, you start tripping over language restrictions more quickly in Java than in C++. :)

Of course, Java is a lot better nowadays than when it first came out, but in my experience you generally still have an easier time creating novel code and managing large projects in C++ than in Java...

Dave999 2015-02-26 19:02

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 1462138)
Actually, that's kind of the way the two languages were designed, at least at first: something that takes 10 seconds in Java does take quite a bit more time in C++. However, something that takes less than a week in C++ could take weeks in Java, and something that takes a month or more in C++ can be totally unmanageable in Java. Both C++ and Java put an emphasis on object-oriented programming and templates, concepts which support programming-in-the-large; however, C++ more closely follows C's policy of allowing the programmer a wide latitude of freedom, whereas Java tries to hold the programmer's hand as much as possible. So, once you start doing something the designer of the language never thought about, you start tripping over language restrictions more quickly in Java than in C++. :)

Of course, Java is a lot better nowadays than when it first came out, but in my experience you generally still have an easier time creating novel code and managing large projects in C++ than in Java...

Have you tried scala? It's awesome!

Copernicus 2015-02-26 19:05

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462139)
Have you tried scala? It's awesome!

Hmm, looks interesting! I'll check it out once it's ported to the N900. :)

jalyst 2015-02-26 20:28

Re: BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition - first ubuntu phone announced
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1462133)
honestly, not in my opinion, they were missing a ton of functionality, and but jolla imo did the core stuff well, or atleast well enough for me. everything lags on this system, maybe cause its a port but we'll see if the BQ version is more optimized. Jolla felt like a small company had created it, the Ubuntu OS felt like when we first ran Meego on the N900, laggy as

But did you compare apples for apples, I meant the Sailfish port on the N5 Vs UT on N5.
Or are you talking about Sailfish on your Jolla Vs UT on N5?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462131)
No they all are pretty much the same.
What differs is that google got tons of value for all kinds of customers :( plus IT must go 1000 java devs for every Qt dev.

Right, but that doesn't answer my Qn & it wasn't directed at you anyway.
Was asking someone who's used both, what they're experience was/is like.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462139)
Have you tried scala? It's awesome!

Since when were you a programmer, where's some of your work? :eek:


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