Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

Go get it. It's a nice device and I already love mine (switching from Xperia X).

Cheers,
Nek

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

This is not fully correct - while this mainly gets lost in the discusions about updating the Android emulation layer, another thing that is neglected (and a per-requisite for updating the emulation layer) is newer kernel and drivers. These alone would fix many hardware issues people are having with the Xperia X such as unusable speaker phone mode due to broken echo cancellation or sub optimal CPU scheduling.

So it's not only about the Android emulation layer getting unusable old, but also about the (related issue) of outdated drivers.

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

I will likely be in the same boat soon - even though I think it is a mistake that Jolla does not want to update the Xperia X baseport (even due to all the lost mindshare), I will likely get a Xperia 10 for Sailfish X early next year. Early issues with the hardware adaptation will be hopefully ironed out by then. :)

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

Right! I took the bitter pill, but do not regret it yet. SailfishOS like Linux and open source is a hobby for me so there my money goes. OTOH you will get device encryption, an upgraded kernel and SE Linux (permissive) enabled by default you name it.

Jollas decision not to waste too much manpower into legacy hardware is quite reasonable for me. New and current users can only buy the latest device from Sony, supply of old hardware is only second hand or refurbished and not a good base to attract new users who demand the latest and greatest (middle-class) phone. I also find it positiv that Jolla chooses middle-class hardware instead of a premium device. SailfishOS is not a CPU and memory hog like Android and runs fluent even on cheaper CPU / less RAM.

Let's hope that Jolla will spend the additional manpower freed from baseport 8 for Xperia X into getting the new Xperia 10 supported completely and OS bugs ironed out which will be good for all devices.

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

I can kinda understand that as well & that this is not fully under their control due to Google & manufacturer policies. Still I'm afraid this can still make quite a few users rightfully angry due to their hardware becoming partially obsolete on the software side, something that many might have thought Sailfish OS will be able to avoid, unlike Android.

Also, to kinda add an insult to the injury, unlike being locked in place due to proprietary blobs on the N900, we have actually all the latest kernels and drivers available for the Xperia X due to the Sony open device program. It's just lack of resources on Jollas side preventing them from maintaining the two split release streams.

Well, definitely a bummer & we can only hope we will not loose too many community members due to this...

Well, a good supply of cheap second hand hardware can be a very good motivation for people to jump on board and play with Sailfish OS. Also given the license prize (something most mobile OS users are likely not used to at all), making the available hardware cheap also definitely helps, not to mention being able to installing the trial version (I think that is still available ?) avoiding the license prize at all initially.

But this only works if the supported second hand hardware is reasonably supported by Sailfish OS - people finding out only afterwards that their second hand Sailfish OS phone is not really that much supported & the might need to spend more money for a new one might yet again not paint the best image.

Oh well, hopefully one day mobile device can finally work like modern laptops - with generic distro images & mainline kernels and all this per device and per device baseport version support nonsense is a thing of the past. :P

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

I have the Xperia 10 Plus since some days ago and I definitely fell in love with this phone.

Sailfish looks absolutely gorgeous on this device!

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

The USB port is a separate module with a cable: it's dead simple to replace, no need for any soldering.

You can do it under warranty if you still have it.
Other wise it's not extremely hard to look at iFixit and do it yourself.

(Would make a nice backup device to fall-back to Android, for the few apps that don't work on your Aliendalvik + microG. E.g.: direct bluetooth access).

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

I've had a 10 (not plus) for a day or so, and I prefer the screen from the X (more saturated colors). The fingerprint reader is fun but I can't see myself using for long (my model X did not have one). And I have my doubts the Android update will solve my networking/data switching issues (Signal already seems problematic, and I need this app). And the network switching problem was my biggest wish for improvement. But the price was low enough I can live with. I like the 64GB internal storage. Hate the USB C. Can't yet find a minimal bumper case for it. The 16:9 screen is a bit awkward. Nothing amazing, nothing awful.
How does one use the two back cameras anyway (in Sailfish)?

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

My 10 is here and working happily. Not too major issues with it and I'm happy, since XA2 Plus was built like a brick. :)

Re: Ordered a Xperia 10 - Mistake?
 

You can't use the two cameras at the moment - only one of them - the normal one.