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Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

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Originally Posted by minimos (Post 1489147)

Half joking proposal:
would it possible to train the swearword engine to detect words combinations that often generate controversies and OT (like "Silica" and "opensource" ;) ) and put up a gentle warning like "Please reconsider to submit your comment if it's going to lead the thread to OT" ?

Nah. This would go more in the direction of nannying.
I'd tend to go full-freedom-of-speech (because *we* can!).

(For everything else, and when/as needed, we have our moderators..)

Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

I say, ditch the moderators too! :p

(I have to say, there has been much less moderation in the past 6 months than in the 6 months before and I have to say, it was for the best.)

Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1489160)

I say, ditch the moderators too!

(I have to say, there has been much less moderation in the past 6 months than in the 6 months before and I have to say, it was for the best.)

Ditch yourself !

(I'm doing my job well, be sure that mods do not have rights in all categories)

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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1489168)

Ditch yourself !

Believe me, I would if I could.

(ALL moderators have been doing their job well recently, by staying well out of the way.)

Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1489169)

Believe me, I would if I could.

(ALL moderators have been doing their job well recently, by staying well out of the way.)

Oh I could lend you a hand if you want :p

Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

One thing I noted was the lack off toolchain updates as part of the old items. Is this something still being looked at?

Re: [Council] 2015-11-03 Meeting Minutes

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1488536)

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Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1488535)

We might also want to consider an opt-in/opt-out filter. People who haven't opted-out (and possible not logged in users, e.g. search engines) will get swearwods filtered out *on-the-fly*, i.e. while serving the page.

Users who have opted-out of the filter will get the "raw" content.

Interesting idea, however I fear that the forum SW does not fold to that easily... :D
It sure is possible to do something like that but might require rewriting a lot of code!

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Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1488535)

I think we'll soon be ready to organize an election, if only for the fück of it. Oops.

Based on the strong reaction of community to this topic I know we now need an election.

Agree. I would vote for optional filter. However, I would prefer to have the swear words filtered on server-side, not on client side, to avoid browser-compatibility issues. Besides, in case of server-side filtering, we do not need to re-write the swear-word-filter-code: was on server, stays on server. We just need to make sure that the opt-in-or-opt-out works.

The "optimal" way to do it, would when message is taken from database and converted into webpage by server: depending on the request (opted in or opted out), a different swearwords list would be applied. Switching between different lists (empty list and full-list) would be easier than switching off filter altogether. And would allow for more flexibility, should some time in the future users request to have personal swearwords lists.

Of course, I don't know how current server-side code works. If it applies filter before saving message to database (en route from writer to database), old swears may never be recovered (alas, sarcastic), and (more importantly) it would be difficult to change server-side code to apply filter to message en route from database to reader.

Thank you. Best wishes.
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