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juiceme 2018-04-27 11:03

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1543724)
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Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1543717)
...and Meego belongs to Microsoft and is securely "buried" somewhere in its museum's locker :D

I beg to disagree;
Harmattan belongs to MS; meego is open source (and yes, RPM based!)

That'd be quite a blow below the belt, for HMD to come up with a re-wamped MeeGo version on a re-furbished N9; it would make Jolla redundant *instantly*

And again a bit of sharpening to get to the point;
Harmattan as well as Fremantle belong to Nokia Technologies, not to Microsoft.
Meego belongs to Linux Consortium, Mer is open source.
And to top it off, Maemo belongs to us. :)

tortoisedoc 2018-04-27 11:26

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1543725)
And again a bit of sharpening to get to the point;
Harmattan as well as Fremantle belong to Nokia Technologies, not to Microsoft.
Meego belongs to Linux Consortium, Mer is open source.
And to top it off, Maemo belongs to us. :)

So N9 + Maemo = createst pone in ze worldz?

EDIT : hold it, harmattan has not been sold to Ms?
Does this mean it could be licensed to HMD?

endsormeans 2018-04-27 11:37

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
M$ got their grubby paws only on what they thought was important.
Thankfully.
So 'tween Nokia and us ...we kept the REALLY important stuff

Meego .....
Similar to the (old) Mer ...(that "was" and "almost was" ) for the n8x0...
sadly I relegate to the island of Half - Assed Completion...
which is a neighbor to the "Island of Misfit Toys"...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dRIQFYMMNYY/maxresdefault.jpg

(though I still have Mer installed on one n810 ..I enjoy puttering around with now and then...)
(better to "do" than just reminisce ...)

john_god 2018-04-27 12:02

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1543724)
That'd be quite a blow below the belt, for HMD to come up with a re-wamped MeeGo version on a re-furbished N9; it would make Jolla redundant *instantly*

I don't think that makes much sense, since developing a OS is titanic a task and a great money burner, what makes sense is Nokia partenering with Jolla and release a Sailfish phone.
I thinking if I should email Nokia asking if they have anything like that planned. Problem is Sailfish right now is a niche OS, but for sure would make sense a N9 revival to come with Sailfish

endsormeans 2018-04-27 12:19

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
Nokia "partnering"?
Past doubtful.
I think the days of Mega corps doing it all ...device and OS and support and maintain..are done.
Tough enough now ..to make the device and support it. and for the device to be a success.

Blackberry had it all.
Just Like Nokia.

But the forces at work in the world... do not make it viable.

And "partnering"?
why bother when the device can simply be made..
by following a recipe...following (now very) standardized predefined bulletproof and idiot proof needed specs ...for android?
And people will consume it.
and it will be a fiscal win on the company balance books.
Not a gamble...against odds with a probable loss.

Very doubtful there will any partnering.

And all OS upstart rivals to Android and Iphone will always be niche OS's ...
until one comes out of the gate...from the start...with just as many apps...just as easy to use...if not easier...than what currently exists...

The upstarts have proven this time and again now..

wicket 2018-04-27 12:30

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1543726)
So N9 + Maemo = createst pone in ze worldz?

Indeed. :D The real N9 revival is Maemo 7. It's been available for the N9 for a few days now but I still haven't received feedback from anyone and I've no idea how far it boots. :(

juiceme 2018-04-27 12:42

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1543726)
So N9 + Maemo = createst pone in ze worldz?

EDIT : hold it, harmattan has not been sold to Ms?
Does this mean it could be licensed to HMD?

In theory, yes; In practice, not likely.

HMD definitely does not want Harmattan, as by itself it is only part of the game; they would have to resurrect all the backend stuff for SW update and application marketplace from zero as nothing remains in place.

Using Android they can leverage Google to do the heavy lifting so my guess is they are going to revive only the physical form of the N9 device, creating a zombie-from-the-grave that looks like the real thing but runs standard Android as the operating system.
Very probably it is not even going to have a swipe-enabled launcher.

That, of course if any of this rumour is true.

kinggo 2018-04-27 12:47

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
so...... chinese copy with fake/wrong OS onboard :D

tortoisedoc 2018-04-27 16:19

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1543735)
so...... chinese copy with fake/wrong OS onboard :D

Ready to be sfosed :D

Kevin.MX 2018-04-27 16:28

Re: "Nokia N9 Rising From the Grave?"
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1543735)
so...... chinese copy with fake/wrong OS onboard :D

Well.....That's not a good thing...
Since I'm Chinese, what I can see is that most companies in China which are making mobile phones, will first consider if they can earn money from the consumers. Such niche OSes like Meego, Maemo, SFOS or whatever, only very few people are using them, and they won't make money from those OSes. Just like a joke among some Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile users in China,“We are just no more than 1% of the mobile users, so those big companies will never make those apps available to us(e.g. Alipay). Anyway, still hope HMD can do something good. But locked bootloaders? Horrible. Mediatek SoC? The performance is probably OK, but MTK never releases their source code. That's really f**king if anyone wants to develop for MTK phones.


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