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mariusmssj 2014-08-25 13:59

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1436778)

hmm looks like a Jolla

Thoke 2014-08-25 14:14

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Yes, seems like some individual sold a Jolla battery in a Finnish online auction/second-hand store site, he stated there it came with his phone... Strange case, that.

EDIT: By the way, I searched for the extra battery TOH, and found out it already exists and works, but it is a DIY-project if you want one for yourself.

jameson 2014-09-02 17:12

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There are lots of battery manufacturers in China that would be happy to build the battery for you provided you buy enough pieces (and I think many could come down to some hundreds) and provide full mechanical information. The cell is a standard one, they just need to add the top and bottom plastic caps and the small PCB with the protection devices and the contacts. The price for such a battery is probably about $3 per piece.

alfmar 2014-10-06 22:12

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Trumpeting "replaceable battery" without actually selling extra batteries, is... [erm... oops!]

When I broke the USB plug of the N900, I bought a second battery and an external charger. Wow, my life changed: I went out always with a fully charged battery. And a spare battery for those loong days out.

I did not (yet) vote anywhere for spare batteries, but I will be the first to buy one when Jolla store will sell it. I want the same "always going out fully charged" experience. :)

Maybe Jolla 2 will have replaceable battery, wireless charging, and no USB port.

bluefoot 2014-10-16 21:05

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1438055)
There are lots of battery manufacturers in China that would be happy to build the battery for you provided you buy enough pieces (and I think many could come down to some hundreds) and provide full mechanical information. The cell is a standard one, they just need to add the top and bottom plastic caps and the small PCB with the protection devices and the contacts. The price for such a battery is probably about $3 per piece.

Probably slightly more than that, but the Jolla battery is indeed a very cheap Chinese one ... I just can't fathom why they haven't ordered additional units.

Only reason I can think of is that they initially ordered a limited run of the battery unit, which was and is only enough to cover production of the actual phone and a very limited number of warranty battery replacements, and that no more have been made.

Again, Jolla's total lack of communication or indication of what's going on is very disconcerting.

pagis 2014-10-16 21:36

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mugen.co is producing good quality replacement batteries for mobile phones, they should be able to come with a replacement battery for Jolla. the only question is the quantity.

bluefoot 2014-10-16 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1443212)
mugen.co is producing good quality replacement batteries for mobile phones, they should be able to come with a replacement battery for Jolla. the only question is the quantity.

A Mugen battery would probably cost 2x as much as the dirt cheap one in the Jolla, if not considerably more than that. Unless Jolla paid them a considerable subsidy to produce one, the market would be too small for them to be interested anyway. Why they can't order a run of replacement batteries from their existing OEM is just ... weird.

vistaus 2014-10-16 22:33

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Mugen is not expensive. I once bought a 1400 Mah replacement battery for mre previous smartphone (HP Pre 3) for a dirt cheap price at their web store. When I now boot up my Pre 3 (it's been a while, but sometimes just for fun and nostalgic) the battery is still at about 98% health. We're now at about 2,5 years since I bought that battery and close to 2 years of daily driver usage (the past months I've mostly been using my Jolla phone) so the quality is very good, esp. for that dirt cheap price.
(They also sold a well-priced 3000 MAh version but I didn't want to make the phone any bulkier lol.)

So no, it might not be more expensive for the Jolla phone (esp. because their sales of Jolla replacement batteries will be just as much as for the Pre 3).

jameson 2014-11-07 10:50

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FYI, I am now running my Jolla on a modified Galaxy S3 battery. The cell has exactly the same size and nominal capacity. From the comparison, and being an electronics engineer who has designed lithium-polymer power supplies and also a battery seller on eBay, I can say that the original Jolla battery sucks big time. If anybody is interested in knowing what should be done to adapt an S3 battery to the Jolla, let me know and I will describe the process (which requires a good deal of manual skill).

minimos 2014-11-07 13:11

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1446228)
I can say that the original Jolla battery sucks big time.

I'm not an expert with batteries, so I'm first of all interested in this statement. In what sense does Jolla battery 'suck' ?

Fellfrosch 2014-11-07 13:24

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@jamson
I think everybody who owns a Jolla is interested in knowledge to alter a Samsung S3 battery into a Jolla battery. :eek:
So please let us know!

santeira 2014-11-08 19:47

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@ jameson

the same for me, also interested in knowing how to adapt an s3 accu on my jolla. :confused:

would be great, if you let us know...

gd81n 2014-11-10 02:39

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1446228)
If anybody is interested in knowing what should be done to adapt an S3 battery to the Jolla, let me know and I will describe the process (which requires a good deal of manual skill).

Definitely Interested.

richardski 2014-11-11 20:03

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The modification info would be a great help as Jolla is being rather slow in providing additional batteries.

strongm 2014-11-12 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richardski (Post 1446769)
The modification info would be a great help as Jolla is being rather slow in providing additional batteries.

One of the great understatements ...

bluefoot 2014-11-14 21:33

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richardski (Post 1446769)
The modification info would be a great help as Jolla is being rather slow in providing additional batteries.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that they're never going to be available.

Does anyone who has bought a Jolla recently have a production date later than April '14? Haven't heard of it ... I think these are the 'Last Ones', as opposed to First Ones ...

mrsellout 2014-12-02 12:55

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As a backup Kamen Dokov found that the battery (part # HB5N1H) for a Huawei Ascend G330 is compatible with the Jolla, if a little shorter (the gap could be packed cardboard), and with a smaller capacity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCYdwET4mgY

http://reviewjolla.blogspot.co.uk/20...lla-phone.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battery-Huaw...eywords=hb5n1h
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Battery-18...-/261580857037

szopin 2014-12-04 13:55

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@reviewjolla: Finally - A small batch of #Jolla spare #batteries coming to Jolla Shop http://t.co/8iVmJrWFZo

juiceme 2014-12-04 15:54

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1450647)
@reviewjolla: Finally - A small batch of #Jolla spare #batteries coming to Jolla Shop http://t.co/8iVmJrWFZo

And here's the link to atricle on TJC

sada11 2014-12-08 18:35

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...finally :)

[Official announcement] Batteries available Tuesday 9th of December 2014 @ 12:00 UTC

source: https://together.jolla.com/question/...2014-1200-utc/

mrsellout 2014-12-09 11:58

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Just a quick reminder for those needing a spare battery:
http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-accessories.html

eekkelund 2014-12-09 12:09

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http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-joll...l-battery.html
25€

aegis 2014-12-09 12:23

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Ouch. pricey even with the included shipping.

Bought anyhow. It'll extend my bike touring off-grid range significantly.

Casanunda 2014-12-09 13:29

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"out of stock" now.
wouldn't think the batch was THAT limited...
(placed my own order right on time, though)

NokiaFanatic 2014-12-09 13:56

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Yay! Didn't manage to get one yet though.

n900user259 2014-12-09 16:04

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Sjeez, how many did they have? Like 5 or less?
I couldn't get online due to work and now that I check in it's gone already?

And what's with the accessories anyway? They're all out of stock.

Dave999 2014-12-09 18:46

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WTF...out of stock!

Seriously... :mad:

Tigerroast 2014-12-09 18:58

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LMAO! That's a tease if I've ever seen one!

"Ladies and germs, after declaring user-replaceable batteries a feature while not supplying the batteries, we're proud to present, at long last...
SPARE BATTERIES! Albeit, they're a tad overpriced and in limited quantity."

*sells out immediately*

Lmao! Dat untapped market, yo!

juiceme 2014-12-09 21:15

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Was away whole day and just now remembered this and... out of stock :eek:

pichlo 2014-12-09 23:08

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
At least my conscience is clean. I checked out the store at about 12:20 and batteries were still available, €25 apiece. I gave it a little thought and decided,
  1. My Jolla does pretty well with its original battery;
  2. So does my N900, with a battery it came with (I had it for at least 2 years and it was already used);
  3. In the worst case, I am sure I can improvise something...
  4. ...much cheaper than €25 ;)
So, someone else got the battery that I could have bought. I accept thanks on postcards, cash, cheques or PayPal ;)

Jordi 2014-12-20 20:52

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2 Attachment(s)
I was not quick enough to buy a genuine Jolla battery so I tried with batteries of an old Nokia phone, ref. BL-5C (850 mAh). Not very convenient but it's working. I will keep this dirty hack in my bag, just in case.:)

The battery needs to be adjusted a little bit (need to cut a small part) and it's a little thicker than the Jolla one but nevertheless, the cover can be easily closed.

In red, the location of the plastic wedges I made to secure this small battery.

elastic 2015-01-07 01:16

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
anyone tried this one:
http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2014/...lla-phone.html

misterc 2015-01-18 18:54

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1436147)
For me that sounds more like:
We have not enough batteries and we need them for our repair centres.
Anyway if that is really the case. They should tell us a fixed date when we can order spare batteries. It shouldn't be so difficult to produce enough batteries.

it's not only about "industrial" / manufacturing availability
they would have inventory with spare batteries and they can't afford that - thus keep it as minimal as possible

elastic 2015-01-18 20:00

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1457125)
it's not only about "industrial" / manufacturing availability
they would have inventory with spare batteries and they can't afford that - thus keep it as minimal as possible

Mmh but would it be a problem to collect orders from cutomers for a few weeks, and then produce/order the batteries ?! Can't be that complicated ...

pichlo 2015-01-18 20:29

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They stock the phones. I am pretty sure that costs more.

mrsellout 2015-07-31 21:27

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Some users on TJC have discovered that the HTC Desire 310 battery is an exact match for the Jolla battery.

Images from this comment:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...comment-103235

http://abload.de/img/20150731_004axrdu.jpghttp://abload.de/img/20150731_008qpqop.jpg

muto 2015-08-01 02:38

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so this battery can be charged in Jolla! Thats a great news because all previous batteried needed to be charged outside.

Kake41 2015-08-01 07:25

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Here's an another page to order the battery:
http://www.halvathinnat.com/3-8v-245..._store=finnish

nieldk 2015-08-01 07:57

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Iam going to get it ffrom alibaba :) only 2$

Jordi 2015-08-01 08:16

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Great news!

And the comunity did it without any help of Jolla.


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