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benny1967 2014-08-18 19:06

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1436155)
here is the official statement "we are working on it" is that good enough?

Which, in my book, is the exact opposite of "They dont want to sell batteries". If I don't want to do something, I'd not be working on it.

benny1967 2014-08-18 19:26

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1436147)
For me that sounds more like:
We have not enough batteries and we need them for our repair centres.

That's exactly what it says.

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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1436147)
It shouldn't be so difficult to produce enough batteries.

Not difficult, but probably expensive. My guess is that Jolla can't just have 100 spare batteries produced for the few people who have asked for them so far. (I tried a quick search on TJC: Questions about spare batteries or other parts have less than 100 votes.)

They'll probably need to order a certain minimum number from their partners and are reluctant to do so before they can be sure those parts will be sold. Just my guess.

benny1967 2014-08-18 19:29

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1436148)
I just don't get why people think Jolla has intentions to cheat them.

Drama! Drama! :)

(It might be the downside of a community model in which you can really chat with the people who actually run the company. Would it be so attractive to fight for attention if the person you're talking to is only a part-time customer service employee?)

nieldk 2014-08-18 19:31

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1436177)
That's exactly what it says.



Not difficult, but probably expensive. My guess is that Jolla can't just have 100 spare batteries produced for the few people who have asked for them so far. (I tried a quick search on TJC: Questions about spare batteries or other parts have less than 100 votes.)

They'll probably need to order a certain minimum number from their partners and are reluctant to do so before they can be sure those parts will be sold. Just my guess.

well, thats contradictionary, if only ~100 people have asked, that would make it more affordable for them to have a few available, ofcourse with some delivery time

nieldk 2014-08-18 19:31

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1436178)
Drama! Drama! :)

i dont think anyone expressed "cheating" in this matter.

benny1967 2014-08-18 19:37

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1436179)
well, thats contradictionary, if only ~100 people have asked, that would make it more affordable for them to have a few available, ofcourse with some delivery time

What I'm saying is that they need to be produced before they can be made available to the end customer. And if there's a minimum batch of, say, 50.000 - why should Jolla even think of ordering them if they assume only 100 will be sold?

They have some spare batteries in the backyard, yes, but they cant give those away as long as there are customers who send devices in for warranty repairs.

(Nothing that I write here are facts I know. It's just the one explanation that immediately comes to my mind after reading these last pages. I'm making assumptions.)

nieldk 2014-08-18 19:42

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1436182)
What I'm saying is that they need to be produced before they can be made available to the end customer. And if there's a minimum batch of, say, 50.000 - why should Jolla even think of ordering them if they assume only 100 will be sold?

They have some spare batteries in the backyard, yes, but they cant give those away as long as there are customers who send devices in for warranty repairs.

(Nothing that I write here are facts I know. It's just the one explanation that immediately comes to my mind after reading these last pages. I'm making assumptions.)

could be, and if Jolla would have expressed what Stefano (and JollaHQ) have said in twitter as response to me, I think most would have let it rest

jalyst 2014-08-18 19:49

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
Scary indication of what sales may or may not be like if they're only getting ~100 requests for replacement/backup batteries...
Then again, prolly only tiny subset of owners actually use TJC, & of that subset, prolly only ~half of them have an interest/concern about battery (for now).

nieldk 2014-08-18 19:51

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectification_(law)

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Only after the court has been satisfied by evidence which leaves no 'fair and reasonable doubt' that the deed impeached does not embody the final intention of the parties. This evidence must make it clear that the alleged intention to which the plaintiff asks that the deed be made to conform, continued concurrently in the minds of all the parties down to the time of its execution; and the plaintiff must succeed in showing also the precise form in which the instrument will express this intention.

benny1967 2014-08-18 19:59

Re: Spare battery for Jolla
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1436187)
Scary indication of what sales may or may not be like if they're only getting ~100 requests for replacement/backup batteries...

Never in my life with smartphones have I actually used replacement batteries. It's good to know a battery can be changed if I need to do it, but in the end I always replaced the phone before I used the spare battery I bought with it (in the early years).

I assume 99.99% of the consumers don't see any use for a replacement battery nowadays.


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