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As much hell as I give Silverlight... it handles video and media in the browser in a honestly MUCH better way than Flash on so many levels. And this is coming from somebody that's paid to code AS3/Flex almost all day.

Repeated for emphasis.

Re: Some new hints about Nokia Dali device
 

link dont work

edit:you need to remove http://
where does it suggest Quim is leaving? all i see is it says hes on vacation which is true and even went to a MeeGo meet while on vacation

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Thanks edited my OP so the link now works

Here's the bit about Quim

"Quim, when will there be a mobile phone with meego released? Please announce a date or announce a date, when you will announce a date.
Or is it true, that you will leave nokia too?"

Clearly like the OP about Flash on meego we have no idea whether this is accurate or not but it all does make you wonder what's going on behind the scens at Nokia

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Haha!
Seems you didn't do your research before replying.

Not true. There is an open source implementation of Silverlight which works very well.

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And which noone uses? :)

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Did not see that bit,
but this tells a story no one is hearing out in public:

Software development for imaginary hardware?

I rest my case...

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a) Web doesn't need more plugins.
b) Web doesn't need plugins that actually require certain browser to work
c) Web especially doesn't need plugins which have different downloads for different browsers.
d) Microsoft has ditched Silverlight in Web. Silverlight is now basically for Windows Phone only.

e) Moonlight doesn't work. I use Opera and they try to offer me a Firefox or Chrome plugin. And last time I tried they did not work in Opera because they suck and the moonlight devs still haven't got a clue what the web is all about.
Moonlight is even more broken than Flash (requires certain browsers, different plugin for different browsers, etc.). Nicely done, Moonlight crew!

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Nokia is a hardware company first, server/content distributor second. The whole Maemo/MeeGo development within Nokia have always been half hearted, a side show that so far has lead nowhere. Symbian was thrown upon Nokia, and Nokia didn't know what to do with it, so they got bad advice (seemingly good at the time though) and open sourced it. The only real Nokia strategy in all this was the purchase of Qt as the platform for the UX and apps.

Nokia does not have the strength to develop and maintain two OS'es. Symbian is going well, despite what bloggers with their heads too far up their asses may or may not think (or hope). But maintaining and developing the core Symbian OS takes a lot of resources from Nokia, resources they would much rather put in Qt/UX, apps and OVI, RT OS and low level programming and development of hardware subsystems, or core Nokia technology.

There is one company that can help Nokia right now, and by accident that company also need help from Nokia creating and producing some killer hardware that will sell in Europe and NA. That company is of course Microsoft. There has been some talk about Nokia/MS cooperation some time now, and one can only speculate what this is all about. My bet is that we will see some peculiar integrations and constellations of Symbian/Qt/WM7/OVI/MS in 2011-2012. It may come in any shape or form imaginable, and unimaginable, but IMO a key element is MS taking over the responsibility of the core Symbian OS. OK, eggnogs may have an impact on the fantasy :D but just think about it. Together they would be much more than twice as strong, and in 2011-2012 they both need to be no less strong than that.

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soo you cant steal flv contents U really have to be kidding.

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Really the UI is pretty good on the iPhone, I certainly don't want an exact copy but would like something that approaches the polished and fast nature of the iPhone. Likewise things like the process of application installation are something to be admired IMO. OTOH there are many bad things, one of which being the lack of hack-ability and the App Store constraints. I really wouldn't buy a phone that wouldn't let me write my own software and install it.

As Atilla said, if there were an opensource (i.e. Linux) phone with kb and a nice polished UI then I would also buy one. That doesn't mean I want an iPhone, but it does mean I admire some aspects of that platform (in the same way that I like the Android status bar thingie and the services integration).

Come on Nokia, let's see some new hardware that we can at least help with.