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Milhouse 2010-08-04 16:29
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Slightly OT, but Peter from Nokia Marketing tweeted earlier today that Nokia are looking to hire a MeeGo Marketing Manager for European Operators... ramping up the marketing to operators ahead of a new MeeGo device launch, perchance?

Also hiring MeeGo Release Marketing Manager and Open Source Advocate Europe.

Looks like Peter has returned from vacation! :)

zehjotkah 2010-08-04 16:29
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 775540)
But but Eldar said that's the UI! :p
xD who is Eldar?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 775542)
its not symbian
3d HW Accelerated GFX is moot point b/c even symbian 3 as 3D HWA interface its how the Ui runs at 60 frames a second.
Symbian is HW accelerated, too, yes, but it's not in 3D
Don't know how to descibe it better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 775542)
if you install meego touch ui widget set from devel its obvious its meego btw the meego widget set got an update today
as I said, both are very similar, but this is not MeeGo.
Both are even able to run the same widgets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pelago (Post 775560)
Can you explain how you can be so sure? It looks pretty much like MeeGo to me.
I can't and no, it isn't.

NvyUs 2010-08-04 16:37
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 775607)
I actually think it's more likely it is Harmattan's UI, built on Maemo 6, which is derived from MeeGo's compatibility layer.

The Harmattan UI was going to use the MeeGo Handset UX, so watching the video I think this is what they are doing with it.
Meego touch framework is actually Harmattan UI Framework it just got renamed and donated i think to MeeGo project.
both Harmattan/maemo 6 and MeeGo 1.1 will both use same framework.
http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=2818&postcount=7

NvyUs 2010-08-04 16:43
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
these are images i took from meego widget gallery i have installed on n900, if you look at images on the nokiablog you can see they look exactly the same look at dialogue boxes and input box.
http://thenokiablog.com/2010/08/02/m...o-closer-look/

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/a...ent-6K11GV.png
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/a...ent-3TE0GV.png

daperl 2010-08-04 16:55
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 775617)
Would the second one be qgil's boss, subordinate or peer?

tissot 2010-08-04 17:01
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 775641)
these are images i took from meego widget gallery i have installed on n900, if you look at images on the nokiablog you can see they look exactly the same look at dialogue boxes and input box.
http://thenokiablog.com/2010/08/02/m...o-closer-look/

http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/a...ent-6K11GV.png
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/a...ent-3TE0GV.png
This was the main reason i thought it was MeeGo too, but it should't really be surprise that we see similarities to widget gallery, direct ui or to that harmattan picture that was leaked about year ago.
Like already said Symbian^4 will and should have some same design elements than Nokias MeeGo or is this video just year old proposal shown to audience?
N9 announcement would clear alot. ;) Hopefully we see it in a month.

zehjotkah 2010-08-04 17:02
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 775641)
these are images i took from meego widget gallery i have installed on n900, if you look at images on the nokiablog you can see they look exactly the same look at dialogue boxes and input box.
http://thenokiablog.com/2010/08/02/m...o-closer-look/
I had the same installed, but still, the video does not show the final or any meego UI.
Similarity does not mean that it is the same...

Rauha 2010-08-04 17:02
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 775656)
Would the second one be qgil's boss, subordinate or peer?
Didn't qgil recently move to California, so it could be his old job.

jnwi 2010-08-04 17:03
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 775617)
"Your means of communication will not include meego.com, wikis, presentations, and events such as the MeeGo conference."

WTF

cfh11 2010-08-04 17:03
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 775433)
Nokia is far too slow. Always having delays. Why can't they be like Apple and announce a release date and meet that date.
Errr... Are you forgetting the fact that Apple waited right up until the iphone 4 was ready to ship to announce it? Pretty easy to meet the release date when all that's left to do is flip a switch..

Rauha 2010-08-04 17:06
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 775669)
"Your means of communication will not include meego.com, wikis, presentations, and events such as the MeeGo conference."

WTF
It's for secret Open-Source Ninjas.

jnwi 2010-08-04 17:08
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 775676)
It's for secret Open-Source Ninjas.
Maybe they require you to be so hard core you'll only agree to work with IRC and usenet. Events are obviously right out the door, since you can't leave their basement.

Viipottaja 2010-08-04 17:15
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 775667)
I had the same installed, but still, the video does not show the final or any meego UI.
Similarity does not mean that it is the same...
And you would know because? Do you work for Nokia on Meego? Not saying you don't, just curious how you do.

NvyUs 2010-08-04 17:20
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
all i know is its nots Symbian, i can say that with 100% certainty too, cant share why though.

Viipottaja 2010-08-04 17:23
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
What?!? So its Android then!! Google's *****es rejoice! :D :p

jnwi 2010-08-04 17:33
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viipottaja (Post 775694)
What?!? So its Android then!! Google's *****es rejoice! :D :p
Maybe it's S40 :D

Rauha 2010-08-04 17:35
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 775703)
Maybe it's S40 :D
Actually it's S30. Kinda cool for 30€ hardware.

Viipottaja 2010-08-04 17:39
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
OR: S80 is back!

danramos 2010-08-04 17:41
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 775703)
Maybe it's S40 :D
Commodore VIC-2000 handheld microcomputer telephone interface!

jnwi 2010-08-04 17:44
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Confidential sources have now informed me it's actually GNU/Hurd running a modernized twm. Nokia are pissed Linus went with Android and decided to start from scratch. Intel will be informed tomorrow, and the applications are all raw Xlib.

Milhouse 2010-08-04 17:45
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 775656)
Would the second one be qgil's boss, subordinate or peer?
Good question - possibly peer, or even sub-ordinate as Quim has relocated to California.

zehjotkah 2010-08-04 17:55
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
xD
sorry guys, just wait and see.

Rauha 2010-08-04 18:00
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 775723)
Confidential sources have now informed me it's actually GNU/Hurd running a modernized twm. Nokia are pissed Linus went with Android and decided to start from scratch. Intel will be informed tomorrow, and the applications are all raw Xlib.
Richard Stallman is at MIT's physics department, begging them to build hydrogen bomb and nuke Espoo.

jnwi 2010-08-04 18:28
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 775744)
Richard Stallman is at MIT's physics department, begging them to build hydrogen bomb and nuke Espoo.
Nokia say they don't negotiate with terrorists and will under no circumstances make Emacs the default editor.

kryptoniankid17 2010-08-04 18:48
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 775433)
Nokia is far too slow. Always having delays. Why can't they be like Apple and announce a release date and meet that date.

It is in a very problematic position right now. It's flagship device, N900, is not a mass market device and is not being readily sold anymore. It's claimed flagship deviced, N97, is like the most poorly rated smartphone.

Meanwhile there are loads of amazing android phones coming out as well as iphone 4 just released. It needed to get N8 out as soon as possible not postpone its release till September. Most people upgrading now will skip the current Nokia phones and will be unwilling to wait till September for the N8. They will just go to Android or iphone. So Nokia is losing potential customers each day it delays. They also needed to release videos or something of N9 as soon as possible for those who have no interest in symbian and may be considering getting an android or iphone. But that cannot happen now because they have to wait for N8 to come out before revealing anything of N9.

Of course better to delay to make sure everything is working whoell before release but when did Nokia do that? They will delay and probably still release a buggy device.
how many times can this be rehashed? I feel as though im reading gizmodo or engadget.

Rauha 2010-08-04 19:25
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 775769)
Nokia say they don't negotiate with terrorists and will under no circumstances make Emacs the default editor.
That's what they say, but the real reason is that Nokia is about to launch the awesome OVImacs. It vastly improves on the traditional editor experience by integrating Twitter and Facebook. It also Comes With Music, order now and you get the Rihanna Special.

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/2337...22923f759e.jpg

etuoyo 2010-08-04 21:15
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptoniankid17 (Post 775786)
how many times can this be rehashed? I feel as though im reading gizmodo or engadget.
I haven't seen it said anywhere. Giving my opinion. And where you feel you are is your problem.

gerbick 2010-08-05 08:11
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptoniankid17 (Post 775786)
how many times can this be rehashed? I feel as though im reading gizmodo or engadget.
If I had to offer up a guess... until it changes perhaps?

danramos 2010-08-05 08:25
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 775838)
That's what they say, but the real reason is that Nokia is about to launch the awesome OVImacs. It vastly improves on the traditional editor experience by integrating Twitter and Facebook. It also Comes With Music, order now and you get the Rihanna Special.
I'll bet it'll contain (or entirely be) closed-source.

christexaport 2010-08-10 21:06
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
in my opinion, it really won't matter which OS it is. Nokia will likely NOT use the reference UI, and customize its own solution based loosely on that reference UI using the Qt UI toolkit used for both OSes.

I thought that was the entire point of buying Qt: To unify the app ecosystems and UIs of both their software platforms to remove fragmentation. You can also have UX fragmentation, but using a similarly styled UI paradigm for both OSes solves the issue.

So if this is more than just a marketing mockup (and I doubt it is...), it will likely be the basic look of BOTH OSes. The big difference will be the extended app ecosystem from MeeGo with GTK and the like.

In essence, we're all right in the end. Its NOKIA's UI. That will be how they brand/differentiate their devices, and how they unify their experience, regardless of cost or hardware.

gerbick 2010-08-10 22:09
Re: Nokia MeeGo UX leaked?
 
Between the two, I rather like Moblin over Nokia's take on MeeGo.


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