Summer'12 Device Program
 

As discussed in the [maemo-community] list,

http://wiki.maemo.org/Summer%2712_Device_Program

Nokia is sponsoring a maemo.org device program consisting of 60 Nokia N9 + 40 Nokia 950 with free delivery.

One of the goals of this program is to help reducing the list of missing apps (or alternatives & related features).

The devices will be distributed through 4 activities:

• 25 devices for the maemo.org Coding Competition.
• 25 devices for the maemo.org Community Awards.
• 25 devices for existing community apps being published at the Nokia Store.
• 25 devices for Qt 5 mobile projects.

75% of these devices should be in the hands of their new owners by the end of June. The Coding Competition runs through the Summer and the prizes will be awarded at the end.

The details of each of these programs are being discussed as we speak.

The Coding Competition planning can be followed here. The discussion about the Community Awards started mildly in the mailing list but it seems that it will be one of the tasks taken by the newly elected Council. I will start the discussion about the New Apps @ Nokia Store + Qt 5 Mobile Projects in this thread, right away.

PS: I just invented the name, feel free proposing anything better if you feel the urge.

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wow looks NOKIA still care about this place and we hope more......

./sifo

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Awsome as usual !

just to make sure qt5 mobile projects are targeting harmattan and/or rpi or are there other devices planned ?

BTW are there n900 left ? :)

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Is there a restriction against getting one if you already got a n950 from the earlier program? Is it set in stone it has to be an n9/n950? I am not sure what to do with multiple of the same phone anyways. I hope it attracts some new devs though.

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About New Apps @ Nokia Store, the criteria could be quite simple:

1. We open a thread in the Developers forum.

2. The maintainer(s) of an existing community app point to http://apps.formeego.org or the thread / stand-alone web about the application considered.

3. Factors considered include popularity of the app e.g. downloads, forum thread posts, karma/thanks of the developer(s)...

4a. If the app looks like suitable for the Nokia Store: congratulations!

4b. If not, then reasons should be provided, maybe the dev(s) want to address them and try again, etc.

There is a section about missing apps available for the N9 but not published in the Nokia Store at
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...he_Nokia_Store. Your help identifying those apps is welcome.

What do you think? When an agreement is reached I will open the thread for this.

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Sounds cool. Who's doing the judging?

At this rate, I'll have time to start moving in a direction where I can port a couple of Android apps I already have wanted to do in the past.

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so nothing for maemo 5 ??

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can someone apply to more than one categories?

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Negotiable and ultimately depending on each activity. For instance, if you got an N950 last Summer and you licitly win the Coding Competition I don't see why you shouldn't get your prize. Then again the organizers of the Community Awards might prefer to distribute the awards with a different priority. It's up to them.

N9 & N950 is what we have here and now. We can be flexible if there is a good reason and ultimately a benefit to the maemo.org community. Due to its Qt nature the Nokia 808 PureView could be considered as an alternative, or a Lumia if there is a good reason e.g. a PhoneGap based app running on N9 and Lumia from the same source. But I would need to ask. I'd say do your homework first, and then we'll see based on who is awarded.

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Just a correction, you probably meant http://apps.formeego.org

About the name - may be "Mobile Linux Community device program'12"? That would give some incentive for others to join the effort, and won't limit the scope to Harmattan only.

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Well I'm no dev, but reading this made me smile all the same. Thanks Quim!

:)

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Qt 5 Mobile Projects could have the same ad-hoc process to select candidates as they come with something cool. Similar to New Apps @ Nokia Store http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...45&postcount=5 but here it could be better based on the proposals and the proven experience of the candidate, in the form of apps created and Qt expertise.

All the proposals should aim to end up in applications running in the N9/N950 with Qt 5.

This program could be promoted at the Qt DevNet forum and the QtonPi mailing list as well, where a lot of bleeding edge Qt experience fan be found.

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Qt 5 proposals need to target the N9 - that is why we are offering them. Raspberry Pi has already the QtonPi device program at Qt Project.

PS: I don't know about new N900s at Nokia.

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I will be doing the last calls for the Nokia Store and Qt 5 activities. (and I'm not involved in the Coding Contest and Community Awards)

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Coding Contest and Community Awards?

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About Nokia Store and Qt 5 why not, although I can foresee only a exceptional situation for getting a device in both channels. No idea what Coding Contest and Community Awards will will decide to do.

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Yes, thank you for the correction.

Isn't "maemo.org Summer'12 Device program" open enough already?

It's up to the Coding Competition to decide the scope of their categories. The cscope of the Community Awards is obviously maemo.org. Nokia Store & Qt 5 = N9.

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fwiw Community Awards were proposed to cover mostly community contributors beyond app developers, and that obviously includes non-developers.

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I agree with qgil here about the name - sadly, "Mobile Linux Community device program '12" would be interpret by most people as Android-including, beyond being incredibly long and hard to remember name.

"maemo.org Summer'12 device program" is good enough, as well as "maemo.org '12 device program" (although, summer sounds positive ;) ).
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As for Coding Competition, I *think* (= it's just a suggestion) that it would be great to recognize multi-platform programs, i.e. ones that are (and will) be developed constantly for both Maemo 5 and Harmattan, at least.

The more platform-independent code, the better - after start of COBS, it should be even much easier to target multiple platforms, so we should already promote good practices.
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As for Community Awards, I'm perfectly sure, that it should be restricted to people who haven't get one already.

Overall, I don't see much benefit for Community, by giving/lending someone two N950, considering their limited number - but of course, it's up to be decided by appropriate bodies. Giving away N9 to someone who already got N950 (and deserve another recognition) doesn't introduce such dilemma, IMO.
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Now, question to qgil - what will be formal status of devices (both N950's and N9's) in hands of receivers? Are they going to be "owned", or just "lend"? does it differ between 4 categories?

/Estel

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EDIT: I don't know yet.

PS: please post your feedback about the Coding Competition at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83761

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Of course it would be unfair for somebody to recieve more than one device. I am just thinking trying in more than one category to increase chances to win one device. If somebody is eligible for a device in two categories he should recieve the one in the category with the fewest paricipants, and the other goes to the first runner-up.

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Nokia N 950 or a new unknown Nokia 950?

Maybe a N950 with windows phone 8

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I'm joining! :)

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Whoa, there are still undistributed N950s.

I wonder how many Nokia's keeping out of the distribution channels?

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I'd be interested in N950i, if it would have at least 1 GB RAM like N9. But I can manage also w/o hw-qwerty I noticed when I had SGS2 for one week (friend's). I used the virtual kb but also using BT kb was easy and small enough to carry always with a backbag. (I have this.)

edit:
oh, n950 does have 1 GB RAM, I remembered wrong. It was the battery which was smaller and abit turnoff when I've also noticed the standard battery in N900 is way too small

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>Cute the Rope

Okay, it's possible to play Cut The Rope on Nokia N9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ponaehOrFN8 (0:47)

Where I could take my prize from?

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so there are more N950's with you NOKIA .. why don't you sell it anyways it was made before contract with MS.. its Legal.. ;)

as for now there's no scope for me to get a N950, not even secondhand :( :( :(

Re: Summer'12 Device Program
 

Guys, this is a thread for collaboration and work. There are plenty of threads out there to do something else.

You are smart and you understand what do we mean when we say "N950".

Now, could you invest your time here e.g. sharing your opinions about my proposals on how to address the New Apps @ Nokia Store and the Qt 5 Mobile Projects? It would be useful since I will start those as soon as we feel there is a consensus. Thank you.

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Can you explain this?

The devices will be distributed through 4 activities:

1- 25 devices for the maemo.org Coding Competition.
2- 25 devices for the maemo.org Community Awards.
3- 25 devices for existing community apps being published at the Nokia Store.
4- 25 devices for Qt 5 mobile projects.

I understand point 1 and 4, but:
Point 2- What means "maemo.org Community Awards"?
Point 3- If I put an existing app to nokia store (like my last.fm radio), I'm automatically in?

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New apps @ store: We could make a wiki page, each participant can point to one application that is out in the wild and not in Nokia Store and write a small text describing it. Then we could form a commitee that will decide about usefulness/innovation/difficulty/interface and give a grade for each one of these aspects. The average (or weighted average) can be used to determine who gets a device and who doesn't.

Qt5 mobile projects: Is there a special goal that Nokia/QtProject want to achieve with this activity? Are there any special new features in Qt5 that developers should be encouraged to use?

If yes these should be stated clearly and made a prerequisite. If not, seeing that updates and ports are probably being downplayed in the maemo coding competition this year maybe it's a good idea to give the awards to porting Qt4 applications to Qt5.

Of course every participating application should make use of the Grue Sensor API at least once.

http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5...-grue-lib.html

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The first time the idea was proposed was here.

"- Prizes for great maemo.org contributors in any areas: betatesting, infrastructure, forum/IRC support and engagement, promotion..."

Then I believe the conclusion was to wait for the new Council (but I might be wrong since that discussion had many posts).


This is not exactly what I'm proposing at http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...45&postcount=5

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I'm proposing a lighter process at http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...45&postcount=5 Any specific reason why we should go for the wiki page & committee instead? I'm hapopy evolving or changing the initial proposal - for a known and good reason.

The main motivations are mixture of:

- Helping testing Qt 5 itself and providing feedback while it's alpha/beta.

- Helping testing the Qt 5 libraries for the N9.

- Getting stories of real apps ported from Qt 4 to Qt 5. Trivial? Horrible? What are the pain points? And what about Qt Creator and the documentation available?

- Getting developers to play with the new toys: Qt Quick 2, textures, transitions, graphics / video effects, raw OpenGL ES stuff, post-Mobility APIs, the new Qt WebKit, JSON DB, ongoing R&D on PhoneGap own JQuery based experiments...

This is the same motivation we have for the QtonPi program, but for mobile development the N9 provides a touch display and many more sensors and hardware features that a bare bones board is missing.

Good question and I have posted this explanation at http://wiki.maemo.org/Summer%2712_De...obile_Projects

I would leave Qt 5 apps from the Code Competition. Qt 5 can cause a lot of frustration to someone jumping in unaware of its status and the reasons why things are the way they are. It will be different when it's final and stable.

In the meantime there are some dudes that are in the opposite situation: following Qt 5 development, growing appetite watching demo videos and examples, and lazily looking for an excuse to get started on something. This is an attempt for becoming that excuse. :)

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I'm editing my previous comment changing it for:

I don't know yet.

Because this topic is distorting the core discussion of this program. We are talking about devices as prizes and awards, as an invitation for the community to do together something cool. Maybe it's fine that someone's motivations is to see how much can you get for one of these selling it online, but there is no need to see such motivations trying to influence how the community activities are being planned.

PS: No worries Estel, this is not about your post. :)

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I know this is about my post, but seriously, 1 N950 is worth 4-5 N9s, so would be interesting to see how you deal with the facts Nokia created. Getting an N9 is like a fluffy/puffy toy instead of a prize with the economic reality accounted for

EDIT: Especially taking into account the fact most likely to win contestants already got one. Having previous winners start with newcommers from same positions is just a joke. Unless they all honorably accept N9 instead of a N950...

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What about the small battery?

anyway, I must admit I do not exactly see the reason why Nokia is doing this. Is there plans to break the Microsoft+Nokia contract somehow in the future, or is there some triggers in the contract, that if WP7 doesn't sell despite all the efforts, Nokia is allowed to continue the Meego line?

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You can either throw (away) in fire, or create possibilities while losing nothing more. Letting the junk get in hands of cool people in an innovative and hopefully creative way for 0 cost is a great thing to do.

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Unhappy if we do it, unhappy if we don't do it... :)

I have proposed this activity because there is a community here, there are some devices somewhere, some people had suggested to do more seeding activities, Summer is coming and we could work on some cool things.

If you still find this disturbing that's ok, but please let those of us having fun keeping working on this.

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What's this about the nitpicking of the prizes? Nokia is giving away several N9s and N950s, I say cool, and the only question is what I'm eligible to get as N950 owner should I participate and win. Personally I feel N950 is such rare beast that those who have one, should they win, would get one of the N9s, leaving more of the N950s to developers who doesn't have one already.

This talk about which one is more in monetary terms is absurd to me. It's a community program, not how to optimize revenue exercise.

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As a N950 owner you are obliged to participate and try to win. No questions asked dev.

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I think so too.

I also think that most of us are indeed interested in doing something "cool" with these devices instead of mindlessly selling or harvesting them. At least I hope so.

Personally, I consider myself somewhat out of scope anyhow as I have a loan N950 and won an N9 in the last years coding competition. Nonetheless, this doesn't stop me from developing and having fun writing new software for these nice devices.