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Fellfrosch 2021-02-04 19:13

Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
  • Browser engine upgraded to Gecko ESR60
  • Isolation of applications (a.k.a. application sandboxing) implemented
    for core apps.
  • VPN improvements
  • ...
doesn't sound to bad....

mautz 2021-02-04 19:50

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Just upgraded my XA2, phone seems to work normal except Patchmanager. Anyone else having issues with PM?

nthn 2021-02-04 20:16

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
I made the mistake of shutting down my tablet after it had been on a black screen for more than three hours. Now it's permanently stuck on the bootlogo. I've tried accessing recovery mode, but telnet says "telnet: telnet: bad port". Today is not a good day.

Ironically, if I had simply used 'version --dup' or olf's update script from OpenRepos, none of these problems would have happaned and this post would be talking about the changes in 4.0.

mosen 2021-02-04 20:25

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1570875)
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doesn't sound to bad....

Huge update indeed.
Went fine on XA2 and Tablet

XA2&10 AD upgrade to Android 9 is a good sign, isn't it?
I was guessing if the switch to lxc truly ment Jolla could now update the contained Android with less effort. Seems so?
Possibly they now find even more time to again revamp the notification system so it does not damn hide the status bar and a not so 90ish solution like drop shadows to give contrast :D

EDIT, Did not want to end negative. Digging through the changes, wow. Nice work Jolla. Much appreciated.

eson 2021-02-04 20:39

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mautz (Post 1570876)
Just upgraded my XA2, phone seems to work normal except Patchmanager. Anyone else having issues with PM?

Yepp, can't apply patches at all.

mrsellout 2021-02-04 21:09

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Same here with PM, can't access the Web Catalog either.

deutch1976 2021-02-05 08:55

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1570881)
Same here with PM, can't access the Web Catalog either.

I still did not updated and also can't access web catalog

Ancelad 2021-02-05 12:01

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
PM should be fixed now

cy8aer 2021-02-05 15:41

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Hm, XMPP is dead. As I understand this is a conflict with telepathy TLS 1.0 and openssl 1.1?

Mivas_Greece 2021-02-06 13:47

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1570875)
  • Browser engine upgraded to Gecko ESR60
  • Isolation of applications (a.k.a. application sandboxing) implemented
    for core apps.
  • VPN improvements
  • ...
doesn't sound to bad....

I sold my Jolla TFO a while ago, but I always keep an eye on Sailfish. If I got it right, the new version brings only small changes under the hood, not any major functional changes, or UI changes that we were normally getting with each major update from SFOS 1 to 2 to 3... I think they really need to increase their efforts to get people to SFOS...

cy8aer 2021-02-06 14:35

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Something I do not understand:

- Jolla 1 is not supported anymore
- Why are btrfs tools updated again? There is no other device than Jolla1 able to work with btrfs (all the others do not have btrfs kernel modules)

mautz 2021-02-06 17:53

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
I see patches in Patchmanager Web Catalog which are compatible with 4.01. But i can not apply these or any other patches. Is Patchmanager only not working for me or does anyone have the same problems?

wrm 2021-02-06 19:38

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
The same here..

eson 2021-02-06 20:33

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Me to... three, four.

olf 2021-02-08 01:15

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mivas_Greece (Post 1570895)
[...]If I got it right, the new version brings only small changes under the hood, not any major functional changes, or UI changes that we were normally getting with each major update from SFOS 1 to 2 to 3...

Well, Jolla handled this the same way with SFOS 2.0.0: just a polished SailfishOS 1.1.9
IMO this strategy is fine, but it obviously does not fulfil the expectation of a new major release providing "groundbreaking" changes.

juiceme 2021-02-08 05:42

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
I noticed just one regression so far. (well probably not an actual regression, maybe an older library dropped from release); seems that Rena no longer draws/displays a map while recording a track... the positioning and track drawing to canvas works correctly though, it is just the map graphic that is missing.

It worked amazingly well up to now without rebuild through all the releases from the very first 1.x onwards. ☺

pichlo 2021-02-08 15:41

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1570922)
I noticed just one regression so far.

I've noticed quite a few. Notifications can no longer be dismissed individually. Patches no longer work. I did not hunt for bugs but those two stand out like a sore thumb.

On the positive side, my perenial problem I've been coplaining about for at least two years seems to have been resolved. Probably by accident, I doubt Jolla actually cared.

vitaminj 2021-02-08 16:00

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cy8aer (Post 1570896)
Something I do not understand:

- Jolla 1 is not supported anymore
- Why are btrfs tools updated again? There is no other device than Jolla1 able to work with btrfs (all the others do not have btrfs kernel modules)

They might have updated the package before they made the decision to drop J1? Maybe they were going to update it to just one 4.x release then drop it?
Or might be for people who like pain and format MicroSD cards as BTRFS?

Coincidentally my J1 hosed itself trying to upgrade to the final release by strangling itself with its own BTRFS metadata (a constant problem back when I was using it regularly) while updating. Booted with lots of dependency mismatches and no UI, now won't boot at all. I tried to resurrect it, and still perhaps could, but frankly I can't be bothered. It died the way it lived, with a self-immolatory filesystem.

eson 2021-02-08 20:55

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1570927)
Notifications can no longer be dismissed individually.

They can! Hit the button ones and swipe them away individually. ;)

nthn 2021-02-09 14:04

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eson (Post 1570931)
They can! Hit the button ones and swipe them away individually. ;)

And then people say Jolla's always adding more buttons and getting rid of swipes... The real problem is, at least to me, not whether or not they're using buttons or swipes, but that they aren't consistent about it, and the inconsistencies in general keep adding up with every new release. Why are the headings in the new Events view left-aligned even though they're right-aligned literally everywhere else? Who knows.

cy8aer 2021-02-09 14:24

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olf (Post 1570921)
Well, Jolla handled this the same way with SFOS 2.0.0: just a polished SailfishOS 1.1.9
IMO this strategy is fine, but it obviously does not fulfil the expectation of a new major release providing "groundbreaking" changes.

The more "groundbreaking" stuff is in the releases *before* the major release most of the time - but under the hood.

cy8aer 2021-02-09 14:25

Re: Sailfish OS Koli 4.0.1 for early access subscribers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1570927)
I've noticed quite a few. Notifications can no longer be dismissed individually.

You can: Try swiping it out, single or block. Long press for selection works too. But why is the notification line on top when scrolling down into tweets? That does not make sense...

Where is the global swipe away functionality?


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