Using the N900 in 2023
 

Which applications are still good and usable on the N900 in 2023?

Is there a way to get Telegram running? Is there a good maps application? Is there a working way of getting weather forecasts?

What kind of changes are helpful for still getting the most out of the device?

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

I think this hints works also in 2023:
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100636

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Either go this way:
https://www.dt.iki.fi/nokia-n900-resurrect

Or this way:
https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Is it actually recommended nowadays to use CSSU-testing and Extras-testing?

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

CSSU testing yes. But are you gonna use it now for calls also? If not, try Leste.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Is Leste really that good already? If it is really only about calls, I think they will introduce their call ui with chimeara which is supposed to be released this month.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Not that good actually. Just installed yesterday. If it is the latest I get the feeling it is much slower than previous images. So still some work.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Yeah, I just tried it as well. I remember it being smoother earlier too.

Can I switch to CSSU devel by just enabling the repo in HAM or is there something I have to be aware of for switching from stable to devel?

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

With devel do not do apt upgrade. On the forum there is my thread devel upgrades. Check it. And if I recall right when you enable the devel repo you will get to application manager the cssu devel as a choice to install on the apps list.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

If Pinephone + keyboard will reach one day a stable Leste version i will surely make it my daily driver. N900 still is an amazing and beatiful device but is becoming limited each year

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

We see hardware limits, but not software limits yet.

N900 has 2000 times more RAM and 200 times more powerfull CPU than what is minimum system requirements for this OS:
http://www.symbos.de/index.htm
Even maximum ram for it is 1024 KB.

So we only have to push some limits with optimized code for N900.
Or at least make TSL 1.3 support with this https://github.com/classilla/cryanc
And N900 is fast enough to work both client and server for it.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

This reminded me of the legendary quote “640K ought to be enough for anybody”.
Are we talking about random OS’s for the sake of the argument though? Or about something that a N900 user would actually install to make his phone a bit more usable than stock Maemo?
Cause I can’t see that thing you mentioned being something that anyone would want to install on N900 when trying to “modernize” the software.

About software in general I also disagree. The only limit software has is hardware, that’s why time takes care of stuff like that.
The more the hardware evolves and becomes cheaper, the better the software we get. Not the other way around.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

What is the recommended way of running Telegram? I got an incorrect phone number error with the Pidgin plugin from ```devel-extras```.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Some use telegram cli wirh xterm. It should be somewhere here on the forum.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

It was an example that when hardware was taken to full use with optimized software. If N900 software take full use of its hardware with optimized code, where is the limit?

Actually my point is when we get faster hardware more cheaper, we get lazy to use its full potential with software. The software limit is more are more how optimize code and how it use full potential of hardware.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

The hardware would be exponential compared to needs if we could make a KolibriOs or MenuetOs fork for N900. Or just writing apps with assembly, like Netsurf browser.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

That is true. But in this instance hardware evolved so much the last decade, that even if software is poorly optimized the difference in favor of the new hardware is still chaotic.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

I use Extras-Devel to get some packages like, for example, mscim and anki. It is risky, but I pinned Extra-Testing for all software to prevent my system from upgrading to Extras-Devel.

I also use BackupMenu. Coincidentally, I needed to restore from back-up yesterday. A package made my system broken beyond my power to repair it. Again, Extras-Devel is risky, but some packages in it are really good.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

I have been using Extras-Devel from the day I bought N900. It's good as most of the updated packages are in that repo.

N900 is truly one of its kind device and I have recently started using mine again.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Sometimes old default browser is more compatible with old web pages than any modern browsers:
http://rickdangerousflash.free.fr/
scroll down page little that game fits to screen. Some N900 keyboard layouts don't work (example finnish/swedish), because need arrow keys without bluearrow.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

How to change default search engine of Micro-B-browser to another than Google? With 2.5G connection might be more usefull use Frogfind.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Any help from this?
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69102

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

This could actually have what you look for:
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50644

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Interesting..why I didn't find those pages before today..thanks Meamish.

It was easy:
start Micro-B
write address bar: about:config
search keyword.URL
choose it and press enter
write adrees bar: http://frogfind.com/?q=
press enter
restart Micro-B

Remember if you click results of Frogfind, they are translated to plain text only html. So if you want see original version of result page you have to cut off start of url.

Interesting thing that Micro-B still says Google search and logo, but these cosmetic thinks and it might hard to get out.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Always use search engine outside the forum and add on the search maemo talk. Normally you find the right threads better.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Hey guys! I didn't want to open a new thread for this - or should I? I own several N900s that have been collecting dust for a while, but I always get back to them :). I've been failing to find certain commands, though! Where do you get for example
...?

EDIT:
I've already tried installing coreutils or gnu-coreutils. I don't seem to have the corresponding repos installed. I also get this message:

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

On all Maemo/MeeGo retail systems (i.e. not emulators, Scratchbox etc.) BusyBox replaces all core packages, to have more space. And BusyBox conflicts with their full versions.

One solution is to compile the needed things manually. They can go to /usr/local or even to custom directory (I use /opt/wunderw in my N9 packages). Then edit PATH in profile file, so your new directory is first.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Thanks for the info! I know I might be wrong here - but can you just point me towards a how-to...? Also - would I compile the tools separately or a whole package like coreutils?

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

BTW just saw this. Looks like you don't need to compile :D

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Thanks, I'll try this out! In the meanwhile I found a quick workaround: Install Leste and then the package

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Huh... Back on Maemo 5: While this package is not listed on my device, I found that "nl" and "paste" are already present in /usr/bin/gnu - the shell just doesn't know that. For my application I still need "column" though, and "bsdmainutils" is not installable.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

I started playing with Scratchbox yesterday. I already compiled & packaged OpenSSL 1.1.1w (TLS 1.3) with full set of certificates for N900, along with OpenSSH 9.5p1. Tomorrow I will try my hands on Coreutils.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=drive_link
Here you have compiled GNU Coreutils v8.9, OpenSSH 9.6p1, OpenSSL 1.1.1w and full set of Mozilla CA Certificates.

Though, few small steps are needed: edit /etc/ld.so.conf as follows (insert /opt/wunderw/lib on first line), run ldconfig and use i.e. /opt/wunderw/bin/ssh. Or insert /opt/wunderw/bin to PATH.

However, column is included in util-linux, not in coreutils, so I will try to compile this one too.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

Wow!! Does this mean that finally we can browse the interwebs again? regarding "column" - I found a way not to use it. So thanks a ton, but I personally am fine without it, as of now.

Re: Using the N900 in 2023
 

No, no :D
This is just plain OpenSSL, you can only use it to compile something new with it. I'm planning to compile Python 3.11.
New browser isn't possible, I think. Only through Browservice running on server / PC, or something on Leste (but slow).