[KDE] KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone
This is nota working with Diablo, and will not be updated, please use boot from SD installers
Boot from SD is the preferred method of installing KDE. DEB to make your system boot from SD http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19639 DEB to install KDE, if you are booted from SD http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19675 ____________________ [SIZE="4"]This install is only for people who are not booting thier OS from SD/MMC, for those running from SD/MMC see above [SIZE] This took quite a bit a playing around on my end, but it appears to be working well. There are two changes that installing and removing this software leave behind. NOTE: This is the same software in the tarball, so no need to run out and upgrade. Newer KDESUP should be coming soon. Testing this has only been done on my device (n800) running 2008OS-50-2. Lets start be first saying that the reason I made this is because of the overwhelming requests for KDE in a DEB. KDE can not be made into a deb easily, so this install is itself a hack. The main goal for this is to provide a way to install and run KDE without having to know anything about sd/mmc cards and partitioning. The second goal for this is to provide a way to remove or uninstall KDE. This took quite a bit a playing around on my end, but it appears to be working well. NOTICE There are two changes that installing and removing this software leave behind. It will add ALL=ALL NOPASSWD for user in /etc/sudoers and it will remove /usr/sbin/docpurge. 1) I did not want to try to remove the ALL=ALL and end up possibly leaving a device not working because of a messed up sudoers file. If you want to, you can remove this line manually. remove this line --> "user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" (its echoed in to /etc/sudoers during install) 2) docpurge is a useless script someone at maemo wrote to remove documentation from /usr/share/doc and other locations. CUPS (cups printing package) html website resides in /usr/share/doc so not removing this renders CUPS inoperable. /usr/sbin/docpurge is moved to /usr/sbin/docpurge-orig during install of kde-mmcX NOTICE, First of all, lets be clear. KDE on n800 or n810 is a hack, and for now it should be treated as such. This may cause you to end up reflashing and lose data (Just to cover my butt) (poop happens) INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS PREREQUISITE 2GB or bigger MMC/SD card formatted FAT (formatted in windows) In order to install you need 2GB free space Copy the install files to your 2GB mmc/sd card MMC1 http://www.tablethacker.com/software/local-mmc1.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kdesup-3.5.8.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358.tar.bz2 Click here to Donate MMC2 http://www.tablethacker.com/software/local-mmc2.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/kdesup-3.5.8.deb http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358.tar.bz2 EDIT ______________ My hosting site is #@$%#@$ up, files you guys are downloading are becoming corrupted. PLEASE VERIFY FILE SIZES, this can me seen with in xterm ls -l /media/mmc1 (or mmc2) 308317552 KDE358.tar.bz2 308126 kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb 308122 kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb 21260684 kdesup-3.5.8.deb 510560 local-mmc1.deb 510548 local-mmc2.deb ______________ Now to install them, using application manager and install them in this order. local-mmc1.deb (install time about 8 minutes on mine) kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb (install time about 20-30 minutes) kdesup-3.5.8.deb (Install time about < 1 minute) local-mmc2.deb (install time about 8 minutes on mine) kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb (install time about 20-30 minutes) kdesup-3.5.8.deb (Install time about < 1 minute) Now start KDE from extra's menu. You can delete the deb and the tar.bz2 file from your mmc/sd card. DO NOT DELETE local.img or swap.img swap.img is swapspace local.img is /usr/local ext2 filesystem FAQ Quote:
As I stated in my original post THIS IS A HACK. I am offering you an experience I can't promise perfection, but I will try to help you if you have any probelms as well as others. The worst case scenario is you you have to reflash your tablet, the best case, your printing webpages and emails in about an hour. ---> CLICK HERE TO DONATE <--- |
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Nice work!
Has the font issue been solved? When I installed KDE, the fonts on MicroB were changed, possibly broken. |
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Great stuff PB! ;)
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As I said, this is the SAME as the tarball, so no changes have been made to SUP.tgz, kdesup-3.5.8.deb is the same. There is a problem, where the fonts change in microb after installing KDE. This does not stop microb from working, but the fonts are a tad bit smaller. I will be working on resolving that, but this was just a way to allow people to install the already available KDE version. |
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You rock...
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If I want to unistall it and fix the problem with MicroB, what should I do?
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I run into problems on installing this...
The first install file did go fine. When I started the second one Application manager said after about a minute that was unable to install. Application manager now refuses to uninstall it too! (It says in log: dpkg: error processing kde-mmc2 (--remove): Package is in very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Of course... reinstall does not work... Originally I copied all files into the memory card in "softs" subfolder. Should all files have been in the root directory? Well... I was about to do fresh flash on this N800 anyway... :rolleyes: EDIT: It looks like there is some conflicts with Kagu? :confused: |
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The files have to be in /media/mmcX You dont need to do fresh flash. kde-3.5.8 only install tar and bzip2, it should update if you place the tarball in the correct location, please try again, let me know? |
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Testing now, I didn't think about that. I will let you know |
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EDIT: I already reflashed the N800 and continue installing from step 2... so far (after about 10 minutes) so good. (Isn't it nice to have two N800's, so keep one in "working" order and use the other for all kind of experiments... :D) |
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I thought there was a problem with the fonts in microb? with size, I am starting to think there is no problem with microb. Can someone explain if they have had this problem what it is?
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Hmmm... now on second try I run out of device memory? :confused:
I removed all junk (user manuals, etc.) from there and trying again... |
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Be patient, I will let you know, I am trying to determine the actual problem. |
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Its probably taking about 20MB in flash also. |
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Fresh flash + 2GB freespace on either /media/mmc1 or /media/mmc2 right? are you on mmc2 running mmc1 or on mmc1 running mmc2? Yuo ran the local-mmc1 or 2 first right? |
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I wiped the memory card empty and tried to start from step one. This time the step one kept going... going... and after 20 minutes I gave up. It looks like it kept building some backup.tgz file to the memory card? So, I reflashed again and now there is over 120MB free flash on device. I started from step 1 again. Let's see how it behaves now. UPDATE: Installing local-mmc2 completed now fine. Installing now kde...mmc something. At this time Control Panel Memory applet show about 100MB free space in internal flash. |
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EDIT: I did install Becomeroot before the third attempt... and it seem to be behaving fine now. Internal free flash memory stays at 100MB level. |
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NOPE, I dont |
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IT IS WORKING NOW!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D
Cool! :cool: Thanks Penguinbait! |
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GREAT!!
Can you please on your two n800 verify if there is any problem with fonts in microb after installing KDE. I can not see any difference, but some people are saying there is a problem. I can not confirm. Can you open some pages in microb on the n800 with KDE installed and on n800 without KDE installed and see if you are seeing a font difference. It may be there but without looking at them at the same time I can't see any difference. |
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Is it possible after installing KDE using this method to make the N800 boot to KDE by default or to install a bootloader?
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can I install KDE from MMC boot? or it has to be boot from int flash?
what is the exact file length for the MMC1 tarball? I have some problem in dl it....and this is the 4th time, 300865 kB sounds right? Kdesup-3.5.8.deb is 20762 kB, sounds right? TIA, bun Edit: MMC boot .9G int flash 4G mmc1 space, running MMC1 install, on 1st step, local-mmc1 failed "Unable to install local-mmc1". What did I do wrong? bun |
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If you want to boot from SD/MMC please see www.tablethacker.com for instructions.
bun, sizes sound right |
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I have problem in dl the files. I tried the tablet and now using the PC, the tarball file sometimes dl as .2 Mb, sometimes as .3 Mb, and sometimes as 297 MB........I think I will try some other time.
I cannot trust those files and I think that is the reason for the failed installation. bun Edit: apparantly after the 1st dl, whether succesful or not, the 2nd onward dl can only get a .2mb file. What is going on? bun |
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i can confirm there is a font problem. This install has changed my fonts to what looks like sort of a Terminal font. Some of the letters are broken, they dont display correctly.I cant explain it. All I know is that the fonts have changed. It could be as easy as a about:config setting. I'm looking into it
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My Microb fonts look like the fonts on KDE when using Konqueror as ROOT on the N800. The fonts look like thin lines. :(
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EXACTLY. Now what font does Konqueror use?
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I have tried everything to restore the default fonts. I changed the fonts on KDE to "Nokia Sans" hoping that it will set them on MicroB, but I got a no go. :( I tried to use default *.ttf files on the Tablet, but the settings don't stay. (Note: You can use "about:config" on MicroB to play around with fonts and other settings.) I might need to start from scratch to identify the problem. I will go as far as untaring KDE, but not SUP, but I'm not sure if SUP is the problem. I still don't know what is causing it. If SUP is not the problem, then KDE is overwriting some "links between files." I will see what I can do. :P
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Is there an input method for keyboard or do we still need a bluetooth one to enter text in KDE (n800) ?
Maybe an app on symbian that emulate a bluetooth keyboard using the phone one could be usefull ... does it exist ? |
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Great!! Thanks for these debs! :)
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Doy you have any idea what I have to do, for launching the kde? How can I start th kde from the termial? Thanks a lot, jukey UPDATE: Problem is solved! There was not enough internal memory on the tablet. After deleting some stuff i had not longer any problem! :-) |
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Any chances for OS2007 version? I still don't trust OS2008 :)
m. |
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Don't chase the bus, hop on. 2008 is where its at :D |
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Anyone who would like to do a video of the install and a KDE walkthrough? I could upload it to Tablet 101.
Great job penguinbait! |
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great work..
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The weird bit that drove me nuts was that I downloaded the 4 file susing a vista machine. For some reason it insists on calling the tar.bz2 file a tar.tar file. I did not notice this and that then makes running kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb impossible. So anyone else out there downloading the files with an MS OS rename it when its down. Note odly too vista hangs the file transfer from the cache for this file?!
I am just installing now I got this sorted and will try on my 810 when the mem card arrives in the post. Thanks |
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