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n950 2014-06-16 09:29

Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Hello everyone,

Here is the Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3.

The OS is dated: 15th calendar week of year 2009.
On commercial version, earliest published is 42th of 2009

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/567...otobuildB3.jpg

I had never seen a N900 proto. It's the first time.:)

In charge...

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/571130N900charg.jpg

If you have some questions we can try to discover it...

Regards,
Trevor.

myname24 2014-06-16 10:07

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
slighltly offtopic but we havent seen much from the original maemo 6 N950 ( before swipe ) . Anyway congrats and keep up showing prototypes :p

n950 2014-06-17 11:06

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Hi,

Some news screenshots:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/847292201406163434.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/906788201406163436.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/806920201406163437.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/613142201406163438.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/293692201406163439.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/149237201406163440.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/582460201406163441.jpg

When I boot the device for the first time I have a mouse cursor on the screen and after it disapear.
What others pictures you want to see?

Trevor.

nokiabot 2014-06-17 11:13

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Extract the image and upload it

n950 2014-06-17 11:32

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1429892)
Extract the image and upload it

EDIT:

How to make a print screen?
combination of touch please?

HtheB 2014-06-17 11:46

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1429893)
EDIT:

How to make a print screen?
combination of touch please?

he meant a disk image of the software.. not a picture :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_image

n950 2014-06-17 11:50

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
ok I have tried Hold Ctrl and Shift and “P” without success

How to make a disk image with n900?

mr_pingu 2014-06-17 12:09

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
you can use gstreamer command to take screenshots: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=141

MSameer 2014-06-17 12:25

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Why do you need a disk image? It's the same as the released one unless the proto is flashed with the RnD image.

And BTW you shouldn't have the proto in your hands.

N950 pre swipe from a sw point of view was more or less like N900 with a bit more eye candy.

marxian 2014-06-17 12:36

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1429899)
N950 pre swipe from a sw point of view was more or less like N900 with a bit more eye candy.

Now that would have been awesome. :)

n950 2014-06-17 12:50

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1429898)
you can use gstreamer command to take screenshots: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=141

gst-launch-0.10 not found.
I need to install it but where can i download it?
and how to install it?

What version can i install?
http://maemo.org/packages/view/gstreamer-tools/

Thanks.

nokiabot 2014-06-17 16:01

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Take photos with a camera :p also tell us what are visual diffrences in it

panjgoori 2014-06-17 18:07

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
i love the charge screen when device is switched off. can we have one for public N900's if possible ?

pali 2014-06-17 21:14

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
I think that dump of nand memory could be usefull for that charge info on screen...

mr_pingu 2014-06-17 21:21

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Pali, how to dump NAND? I am sure with good instructions he can provide us that dump...

pali 2014-06-17 21:34

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
An easy way is to use my last version of 0xFFFF tool. On N900 just call

$ 0xFFFF -E dump.fiasco

and it will dump & pack all images into one fiasco image in current directory under name dump.fiasco

0xFFFF thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996

pali 2014-06-17 22:11

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Just unpack file src/0xFFFF-arm from tarball 0xFFFF-0.6.tar.gz, copy to phone and run.

n950 2014-06-19 08:37

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Hello,

Thanks for all your helps :-)

Here are news pics: (first part)

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/136181201406173447.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/774566201406183454.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/824487201406183455.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/326293201406183456.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/463010201406183458.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/905775201406183459.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/964601201406183460.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/331694201406183461.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/158818201406183463.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/814703201406183464.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/695205201406183466.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/459032201406183467.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/250168201406183468.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/714001201406183469.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/649723201406183470.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/942439201406183471.jpg

There are a lot of differences between final and proto comparing OS.
If anybody can find all differences and post it here comparing pictures?

Thanks

n950 2014-06-19 08:47

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Pictures (second part):

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/380142201406183472.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/311824201406183473.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/995687201406183474.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/540153201406183475.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/268424201406183476.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/952458201406183477.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/290214201406183478.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/199538201406183479.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/618556201406183480.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/851156201406183481.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/327386201406183482.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/809502201406183483.jpg

Enjoy...

n950 2014-06-19 08:53

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Pictures (third part):

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/457494201406183484.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/232490201406183485.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/424072201406183486.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/887809201406183487.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/983933201406183488.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/596995201406183489.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/338022201406183490.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/796651201406183491.jpg

End :P

nokiabot 2014-06-19 09:14

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
You need to provide a dump as instructed by pali it will help more to discover things. :) thanx fox pictures :-)

gianko 2014-06-19 10:12

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
hey, is that an equalizer visualization in the right bottom corner of the media player?

i also like the desktop images

+1 for the dump

ot: with all that pictures, viewing the page 2 of this thread from the N900 it freeze the device and i have to kill the browser process :o

n950 2014-06-19 11:17

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1430139)
You need to provide a dump as instructed by pali it will help more to discover things. :) thanx fox pictures :-)

For the dump, i need to connect the n900 to the pc or directly in n900? with his application.

I have here only windows seven.

can you explain me step by step please? to have an image.

n950 2014-06-19 11:18

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianko (Post 1430147)
hey, is that an equalizer visualization in the right bottom corner of the media player?

i also like the desktop images

+1 for the dump

ot: with all that pictures, viewing the page 2 of this thread from the N900 it freeze the device and i have to kill the browser process :o

yes it's an equalizer to access to the music.

pali 2014-06-19 11:34

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1430157)
For the dump, i need to connect the n900 to the pc or directly in n900? with his application.

I have here only windows seven.

can you explain me step by step please? to have an image.

Download 0xFFFF-0.6.tar.gz from that thread. Unpack it (e.g. in total commander). Then connect n900 in mass storage mode and copy unpacked file src/0xFFFF-arm to top level directory.

After that disconnect phone from computer, open xterm. Move copied binary to home folder, make it executable. After that become root and create dump:

$ mv MyDocs/0xFFFF-arm 0xFFFF
$ chmod +x 0xFFFF
$ sudo gainroot

After that you should see:

Root shell enabled

If not stop here! Post of all commands to this thread and we could help you.

If everything is OK, you are root, than continue:

# cd /home/user
# ./0xFFFF -E MyDocs/dump.fiasco

When program finish (it can take about 20 minutes!!) close everything and connect phone via mass storage mode. Than you should see file dump.fiasco and this is what we want :-)

peterleinchen 2014-06-19 11:55

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianko (Post 1430147)
ot: with all that pictures, viewing the page 2 of this thread from the N900 it freeze the device and i have to kill the browser process :o

[OT]So I am not the only one! But my device does not freeze:
it does a nice reboot! :cool:
And this is not the first time but always on pages with that huge amount of picture MBs.
So now we are two (I am on PR1.3.1 non-CSSU, kp52).
Anyone else? So we might start a new thread about it? Or, as pali is actively reading ;), any idea how to solve that?[/OT]

--edit
This page here makes problems (as some other I do not remember too). But this and that do show without problems!

nokiabot 2014-06-19 12:21

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
i dont think the n900 could render anymore pages of this kind :( sure proxy browsers like operamini can handle with ease :)here firefox with 1gig ram on ubuntu ate 290 mb swap and cpu sky high fans guzzling on my 1.6ghz netbook?? Sure unity would get the bashing and kde on opensuse was good just 70mb swap with music and gazzilion tabs open i dont have widows anymore dont know what perfomance it could provide :D

elros34 2014-06-19 12:31

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
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I have the same. killall browserd helps. Look at memory usage:

peterleinchen 2014-06-19 19:08

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Yeah, checked also with conky while letting browser load the page in background. It took some time but then swap usage increased up to around 700MB. And BANG (reboot)! :(
Possibly our little device cannot handle more than 768 MB of actively used swap?

Alecsandru 2014-06-19 21:15

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
how about installing backupmenu and make a backup of everything? the charging ''thing'' it's using o different nolo version?

pali 2014-06-19 21:24

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
0xFFFF backup eveything (xloader, nolo, kernel, initfs, rootfs)

mr_pingu 2014-06-19 22:15

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
But not optfs where possibly the modified apps reside...

pali 2014-06-19 22:18

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
yes, but additional /opt backup is easy and can be done via tar. btw, due to this fact it is probably not possible to restore backup of rootfs (from fiasco dump) via flasher...

nokiabot 2014-06-20 03:23

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
I want that charging with percentage and time :D

nokiabot 2014-06-20 03:27

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
@N950 dont mess with the proto much dump now :D and what the 32gb contains ?

n950 2016-04-11 15:24

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
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Here is my another N900 proto B3

Different OS version:

The OS is dated: 20th calendar week of year 2009.

I have one more but not check yet what OS version inside :p

tommo 2016-04-11 15:34

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
How many of these do u have now?

fw190 2016-04-11 18:51

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Will you dump the nand for Pali and other devs?

n950 2016-04-11 19:04

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1503302)
How many of these do u have now?

I have 3 N900 prototypes devices.

wicket 2016-04-11 20:37

Re: Nokia N900 Prototype Build B3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 1503314)
Will you dump the nand for Pali and other devs?

Yes please! It's quite possible that this prototype build may include binaries built with debugging information. This would potentially be very useful to the Fremantle Porting Task Force. Both NAND and eMMC dumps would be great!


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