Is it helpfull for us? Kali Linux now available for download from Microsoft Store
I wonder if it is any good for us
https://mspoweruser.com/kali-linux-n...crosoft-store/ |
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Why would you think so?
It’s already easy to run Kali in a chroot. MS is doing wrapping, mapping Linux calls to Windows DLL’s. Great job, but nothing that adds to arm architecture |
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Not helpful to you, but it exposes a new generation of users to Linux. That taste of freedom might grow into a hunger down the line.
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One thing i can assure. Windows 10, with all the latest updates, is way more friendly to all. A few years ago it took me ages to flash my N9 when now is faster
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It's another tool within an organization that is not linked to any inherited problems or oversights that MS Windows may never test or show up as a concern. Nice list of distros btw. We're quite similar. |
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It's not that I dislike them. They are great distros for a seasoned user. Just not so much for a novice like I was then. I have everything to thank for to Ubuntu for finally getting me to the other side. Now I would not touch it with a barge pole.
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On my non-mobile platforms I use almost daily at least Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Ubuntu and on top of those 2 different strains of inhouse Linux, the first one a traditional LFS variant and the other a Koji-built own variant. Now when I think about it, Arch is maybe the only major distro that I have not used. |
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Do you test distros for a living? I for one, am done with Arch based distros, as I’m fed up with updates constantly breaking stuff. |
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At home, I hardly ever get to use a big computer. So my choice of an OS oscillates between Maemo (99%) and Sailfish (1%). On the rare occasions that I do get the chance to fire up my laptop, I use Windows 8 it came with. I hate it to bits but I use it too rarely to justify doing something about it. I only use it when I absolutely have to, like to book a holiday (those websites are too heavy for the poor N900). |
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My current job is building and testing linux distributions. (that's the 2 inhouse distributions I mentioned...) As for the other ones; Debian was my first love and I still have few running Debian machines. Ubuntu and Fedora are widely used in the company so I also have machines I run them on. Gentoo was a kind-of sideline I installed some years back on a desktop that I still use daily, just as I wanted to learn how it is different from prepackaged distros. If we go down the dark history, my first distribution was Slackware way way back in the dark ages, and my late father-in-law used to run SuSe for at least ten years... |
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Not even this is good for us?
https://mspoweruser.com/debian-linux...crosoft-store/ |
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To me, it's still a good thing. Microsoft just basically lowered the entry point for those folks who were curious but couldn't be arsed to create a separate machine or set up a VM. But... it still means that you're a current Win10 user. That's the disconnect for the folks here for the most part. Note: I use Mac at home, Win10/Mac/Linux at work with company supplied iPad and iPhone as a creative and I am no longer a part of IT admin or programming. |
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I work as IT(servers/network/winworkstations) administrator and it's pretty boring for me. Such job would be a dream for me. I was pretty experienced linux user(started with Mandrake 8, but later there were Gentoo[I was scared of Debian, considered for exp. users ;-], Debian, AuroraLinux, Fedora, Slackware, Ubuntu, Suse until I found PLD Linux, which was second(after Gentoo) I falled in love and become devloper for few years. But after many years(PLD was 2nd biggest RPM-based distro, and 3rd general in those time), userbase(nearly equal to developers base) was shrinking over time, and there were few dev-wars(we hadn't strong leadership, all was kind of mix of republic and anarchy). In that time PLD also migrated to git(from cvs), systemd and RPM5(now I know it was stupid decision), so nearly every second update distro become unbootable(we lacked manpower to fix all for systemd) and all old compiled packages(with rpm4, which all other[Fedora, SUSE, RHEL] still uses [except Mandriva]) become incompatible with new/current PLD system. And our wonderfull Poldek (best package manager interface, I;ve ever used[like bash, there's dirs like [installed], [testing], etc, and you navifate trough 'cd', 'ls') had many problems with RPM5, and after second database corruption (in which case full system reinstall was needed[you cannot delete database like with RPMv4, and recreate it from headers), I was off and switched to fedora temporarily). Recently I installed Archlinux in chroot and switched to it, but I'm not fully happy with Arch(it got packaged fresh plasma, etc, but there's not much of old/classic games/apps in repos. Base repos are small, while 3rd party are slow and unreliable(in PLD they were at least hosted in PLD infrastructure). And all GPG signing problems. I don't like pacman at all [both command syntax and how it works. Powerpill, etc are only ugly workarounds(Fedora's DNF is way better, faster and more modern) So with Arch I got much more fresh software than I could get with Fedora, and with unstable repos it's much more stable than Rawhide. But I'm still thinking about going back to PLD. The fun thing for me is that, after upgrading fedora from f25 to f27, system stopped booting normally(boots only in emergency mode, after ctrl+d pressed). I was thinking it's fedora specific bug and started preparing Arch in chroot, and after twoo weeks when booted it, I got identical error in Arch(so now I know it's SystemD upstream bug). And the only technology involved is systemd (Arch uses mkinitcpio, while Fedora dracut). The problem is I'm using BTRFS with subvolumes(insted of partitions) over LUKS, and systemd thinks that /dev/mapper/butter, which luks device with (rootpartition '/') isn't ready and all dependencies fails for other services(while it's already mounted and boots correctly after ctrl+d). It was much more easier in rc-scripts time, than nowwith systemd, udev, dbus and all that magic underhood ;-) |
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My team maintains the base platform for application developers who then build the stuff used in various embedded devices and cloud services on top of it; the division of work is very clear, all that we do is 100% foss, (gpl, apache, bsd and so on licensed) and the stuff that other folks build is 100% proprietary-company-internally-developed stuff. We try to keep the platform as bleeding edge as possible, releases averaging every 2 weeks. (updates, bugfixes, patches to existing components, new features when application or system developers request them) I do share your worry about systemd; it is a component I need to work very closely with and indeed even the stable branches are pretty volatile; just few weeks back i updated it to v237 and this week v238 is out and we start evaluating that. |
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BTW, where is your work located? Is it remote or local in office? |
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I read that Nokia closed it's R&D center in Finland and moved it to China(like Factories previously). So I'm quiet surspised.
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The parent company "Nokia" still exists, employing something around 60000 people around the world, about 10% of that in Finland. In Europe we are among the top software houses as far as I know. |
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You Guys have any Idea of Microsoft releasing the closed drivers for Maemo, and the N900 in particular ? Or should we have to open an online petition or something like that ?
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The phone is still good and should be updated with the latest softwares... |
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https://elinux.org/N900 |
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Please forgive my ignorance. Just found out about this. |
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It really depends on what you expect from a fully functioning device. If you expect to be able to run a Linux distro for the desktop, that will mostly work. If you expect to have something like Fremantle with everything integrated, where everything works like phone calls, etc, well we're not quite there yet. That's what we're aiming for with Leste. Most of the stuff left to do is in userspace, bar the odd kernel bug. Right now the N900 is the phone with best support in mainline Linux. If you're looking for something more modern, the Droid 4 is catching up. |
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Can't say that I was a fan of desktop Linux on the device unoptimized for the screen size. But I can fully appreciate the existence of this and Maemo Leste. |
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Does maemo leste kerbel include those PowerVR patches?
And regards to the wifi; I thought it was fully open since david RE'ed the wifi drivers for injection? |
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Sorry for being late to the party and side-tracking a bit by (kinda) answering the OP :p
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(I'm not saying what M$ did prior to W10 was not good for them, but now it's much worse for the users, whether they know or care about it) So while "offering" the possibility for (not privacy-inclined/-aware) W10 users to (hopefully) easily discover *one* variation of GNU/Linux is fine, let's not forget it boils down to getting an Open OS through one hell of a black box (and then there's the privacy aspect)... I'd rather have distros being more non-tech-savvy-friendly so we could stop hearing the typical argument "Linux is too complicated, I don't even know how to install it"... While I don't endorse Ubuntu, the idea is worthwhile. Rant over, sorry about that, it has to be let out now and then. |
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The Wi-Fi driver might be open source but the firmware is still non-free. We're going off-topic here. Can we continue this discussion in the Leste thread? |
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