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meego_leenooks1 2018-01-26 13:03

selling 4x Nokia N950 (1 new, 3 broken LCD)
 
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Hello everyone,

I'm selling a few of my devices. One of them is N950 "RM690" described here: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96972
- device is in excellent condition, almost no usage. Comes with original box.

Ebay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/132632438888


And three other N950's are "for parts only" - they are working well but their displays are broken (LCD has black spot leaks, see example in attachment) because I've dropped the phones several times (thus both devices have sign of wear - scratches, scuffs, etc).

Ebay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/132633424172


Accepted payments (most to least preferred): Visa-Visa or MC-MC direct transfer, PayPal, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Western Union or MoneyGram.

endsormeans 2018-01-26 16:30

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Pity about the screens on the n950's....

meego_leenooks1 2018-01-26 20:16

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
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One of "parts only" n950's has almost excellent body except that it has no SIM card slot protector (because its rubber part teared down over time). Another n950 has a lot of scratches and scuffs, the camera screen is broken (and has a drop of glue to prevent it from falling away) and it has no SIM card slot protector too.
Also most rubber pads dissolved over time, in all three n950's. See attachments below.

"RM-690" comes with the CA-179 USB cable in box. Also I have one extra CA-179 and CA-101 cables which I could sell with other n950's.
Also I have the "BV-4D 1320 mAh" battery which I could also sell.
However there is a high chance that claimed capacity is fake and BV-4D has 1200 mAh real capacity like the standard BL-4D. I have no possibility to check its real capacity.

All n950's come with PR 1.3 version.
One of "parts only" has stock Harmattan OS, another has bootloader left from unsuccessful Nemo OS installation and the "open mode warning", but the Harmattan OS works well.

meego_leenooks1 2018-01-26 20:23

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
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1st n950 has almost excellent body except the broken screen (see black spot at the bottom and small line on the right side), so I did not make many photos of the 1st "parts only" phone.

meego_leenooks1 2018-01-27 16:45

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
I decided to make an auction for 1 month - I will sell items to the highest bidders on 27th February (if noone buys an item for the "Buy Now" price).


Starting prices:
- n950 "RM690": $600
- one of "parts only" n950: $150
- GPD Pocket: $300

"Buy Now" prices:
- n950 "RM690": $1500
- one of "parts only" n950: $500
- GPD Pocket: $500

All prices have DHL shipping included.

Tomat0 2018-01-27 17:15

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1 (Post 1540635)
I decided to make an auction for 1 month - I will sell items to the highest bidders on 27th February (if noone buys an item for the "Buy Now" price).


Starting prices:
- n950 "RM690": $600
- one of "parts only" n950: $150
- GPD Pocket: $300

"Buy Now" prices:
- n950 "RM690": $1500
- one of "parts only" n950: $500
- GPD Pocket: $500

All prices have DHL shipping included.

I'll bid $301 on the GPD to start things off.

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-06 09:21

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
As I see no interest in these items here I will post listings on Ebay in 2 weeks.

abubakar 2018-02-06 15:48

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
this is so expensive, n950 should be sold max around $150 or less.

gerbick 2018-02-06 16:11

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abubakar (Post 1540935)
this is so expensive, n950 should be sold max around $150 or less.

Historically that has not been the case. It's worth more to those that covet that device or might develop on that device - or both.

But who am I to say anything otherwise?

endsormeans 2018-02-06 18:00

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
abubakar and gerbick are both right.

On the one hand...what is being asked for a functional n950 and serious repair-job and parts replacements n950's ...is a very steep price.
perhaps years ago it may have commanded that price...but now...I don't think so...
for years I have seen the prices for nxx0's fluctuate...up and down...
Nowadays ...it is just ridiculous ...
for example...
right now ...there are n800's on ebay
starting at a bid of $1
buy it now's from $20 up to $227

n810's for up to $494 ....NOT including the $65 in shipping...

and n900's I have also seen all over the map.

So abubakar and gerbick are both correct...

the value inherent in the devices ...
(even as a coveted device that a collector or developer or even a die-hard user drools over...)..
and what people ask for on the auction block and sale sites...
is not in line with reality.
Some devices I have seen for sale... the owners are obviously asking too little ...
Some devices I have seen for sale...the owners are obviously asking too much...

Frankly...
currently...
It is the wild west ...
With no proper credible valuation in place on our device line.

Tomat0 2018-02-06 19:06

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1 (Post 1540928)
As I see no interest in these items here I will post listings on Ebay in 2 weeks.


I have interest in the GPD, perhaps we can negotiate over email?

mosen 2018-02-06 20:51

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1540940)
With no proper credible valuation in place on our device line.

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #286:
Every price is justified as long as someone pays it.

So it is always wise to start high and later lower the price. Also it is very fair! How else should the guys wanting the item most get it if not by being able to pay more "first" :D

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-07 04:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomat0 (Post 1540943)
I have interest in the GPD, perhaps we can negotiate over email?

OK I will list only n950's to ebay, and will continue the "auction" for the Pocket here.
Currently you are the highest bidder with $301 :D

JoOppen 2018-02-07 06:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1 (Post 1540597)

Also I'm selling the GPD Pocket laptop as I did not find any use for it. The condition is excellent, almost no usage. Original box and all accessories are intact.

I could use it and thus am also interested in the GPD and proceed with bidding: 330 €. Further bids depend on whether it's the Linux or the Windows edition. Can you tell us?

mscion 2018-02-07 09:30

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Coming from a capitalistic country, it's basically worth what people are willing to pay.

abubakar 2018-02-07 09:44

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoOppen (Post 1540952)
I could use it and thus am also interested in the GPD and proceed with bidding: 330 €. Further bids depend on whether it's the Linux or the Windows edition. Can you tell us?

are their devices operating system specific? I have an impression that you can just install what you want.

JoOppen 2018-02-07 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abubakar (Post 1540959)
are their devices operating system specific? I have an impression that you can just install what you want.

You are right. However, it's nice if the OS you prefer is already installed - less hassle with finding drivers etc.

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-07 13:28

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
It is a Linux edition, but I have installed Fedora as I don't like Ubuntu. Not all drivers are present though :)


The edition matters because they differ by additional accessory - Windows edition shipped with USB-C hub while Linux edition shipped with USB SD card reader.
I forgot to mention - I sell the laptop only, without card reader. Other accessories are intact.

Tomat0 2018-02-07 14:44

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoOppen (Post 1540952)
I could use it and thus am also interested in the GPD and proceed with bidding: 330 €. Further bids depend on whether it's the Linux or the Windows edition. Can you tell us?

I'll do $350. :p

pichlo 2018-02-07 21:38

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
$365. Like days in the year.

Tomat0 2018-02-08 14:08

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540987)
$365. Like days in the year.

$376, if this goes past $450, I can find a better deal elsewhere.

mscion 2018-02-08 14:16

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomat0 (Post 1540999)
$376, if this goes past $450, I can find a better deal elsewhere.

Was wondering, while bidding on merchandise, it may not be a good idea to reveal what your maximum offer would be. A fake bid could be now be made for, say $449, then you could counter with $450. But you might have got it for $376. Just a suggestion:)

pichlo 2018-02-08 20:58

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Just a quick note to reassure the assembled gentry that my bid was not fake ;)

But I won't go any higher. Can't afford it. Much as I would like the device.

davidcli 2018-02-20 15:26

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
interesting

badpixel 2018-02-20 18:38

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
@meego_leenooks1: Where are the phones locates? I live in Poland[EU] and wonder about import taxes to Poland, but would be really interested in RM690 and maybe other n950s if price will be low for them)?
Could you post screen models for n950 (or some other references), so I will ask some guy from Schenzen if it would be possible to buy replacement screens for n950s?

aspergerguy 2018-02-20 19:36

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by badpixel (Post 1541431)
Could you post screen models for n950 (or some other references), so I will ask some guy from Schenzen if it would be possible to buy replacement screens for n950s?

Wishing you luck with this as elicited no results a while back:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=73

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-22 04:50

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
badpixel,
phones are located in Thailand, and I will ship by DHL.
As far as I know DHL calculates and pays the import tax itself, then forcing the recipient to return that money to DHL. But it calculates the import tax based on the declared price, so I could write lower price than the one it was sold for.

badpixel 2018-02-22 19:06

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but what's the shipping price?

In polish law import tax, vat, and toll are calculated with shipping price included. And everything costier than $150(including shipping) can be taxed even 38% extra(it's no joke)

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-23 04:52

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
The shipping cost will be from 50 up to 100 USD.
If you are REALLY interested in those devices I could hold them for you and give them to you personally (I plan to go to Europe in May). But you will have to prove your interest, e.g. pay 2 months in advance.

badpixel 2018-02-23 07:09

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
That's super cool. Even if you don't visit Poland shipping and import fees within EU will be few times lower.

So I bid $500 for RM690 and $10 for every other n950.

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-26 08:07

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Auction for the GPD Pocket ends tomorrow at 12:00 GMT, current leading bid: $376 user Tomat0.

Concerning n950's - I will list them on ebay in the nearest days.

badpixel 2018-02-27 13:40

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
@meego_leenooks1: are you unhappy with the price, or simply you maybe you threat us like kind of Jolla? (if the latter is the case, I can pay in advance now)

meego_leenooks1 2018-02-27 14:02

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by badpixel (Post 1541705)
@meego_leenooks1: are you unhappy with the price, or simply you maybe you threat us like kind of Jolla? (if the latter is the case, I can pay in advance now)

I don't want to sell the devices for much less than I bought them for.
I mean at least the working "rm690", other ones with leaking LCDs cost less surely.

badpixel 2018-02-27 15:20

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1 (Post 1541707)
I don't want to sell the devices for much less than I bought them for.
I mean at least the working "rm690", other ones with leaking LCDs cost less surely.

Hmm...so if you don't want real auction (with risk of loose), then maybe tell your price, and maybe someone will agree there.

And about broken n950s, you know that display is the component, that's easiest to break, costs usually 30-50% of device and in case of n950, it's unobtanium. But because I'm budget limited, I prefer to take a risk with broken n950 for cheap, with hope I will find displays someday somewhere(or loose small amount of money). I don't have money to buy n950s in good shape/normal price as daily drivers (altough it's best phone I've ever seen[it would be gorgeous to use it with n9's oled screen, which is IMHO better).

meego_leenooks1 2018-03-27 16:52

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Well, all 4 my n950's are for sale now. I have accidentally broken the SIM slot in one of them which I use every day, so I had to switch to another phone.
Thus, for sale: one working n950 "rm690" in excellent condition, and three somewhat broken n950's "for parts only". I will make two listings on ebay later - one for working n950 and one for all 3 broken phones.

Also, Tomat0 declined to buy the GPD Pocket so the offer goes to pichlo with the second highest bid of $365.

wicket 2018-03-27 17:34

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Did you ever find out what exactly is the difference between the RM-690 and a standard RM-680? Is it using the same version of Harmattan or a different version?

Could you please post the output of "dmesg" right after boot, "cat /proc/cpuinfo", "lsusb -v", "lshal -t" and "lshal -l"?

pichlo 2018-03-28 07:17

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1 (Post 1542750)
Also, Tomat0 declined to buy the GPD Pocket so the offer goes to pichlo with the second highest bid of $365.

What a shame. Unfortunately, almost two months passed since my offer and I no longer have the cash to spare (splashed it out on a present for the missus).

On the other hand, I made a solemn promise and going back on that makes a bad karma. I can offer a chance to the third highest bidder and pay the difference up to $50. If I am not mistaken, JoOppen's offer of $330 fits the bill.

If that falls through, then I will take it.

pichlo 2018-03-28 07:27

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
Err, a nagging voice at the back of my head telling me, "don't be silly, don't just give away $50."
Hence, there is a time limit on my offer. End of March, i.e. this Saturday. I will check the situation on Sunday morning UK time and act accordingly.

meego_leenooks1 2018-03-28 08:54

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
wicket,

Quote:

dmesg: klogctl: Operation not permitted
and lsusb gives empty output.
I feel the root privs are required but the phone is not rooted and there is no even devel-su.
(Update: lsusb on rooted "rm680" gives empty output too, however dmesg works even with user privs.)

Other commands output:
http://n950.ru/rm690/cpuinfo.txt
http://n950.ru/rm690/lshal_l.txt
http://n950.ru/rm690/lshal_t.txt

lshal diff between "rm680" and "rm690": http://n950.ru/rm690/diff.txt
It looks like the hardware is identical, except the "rm690" marking on the antenna.

pichlo 2018-03-30 07:23

Re: selling 3x Nokia N950 and 1x GPD Pocket
 
48 hours before my offer expires...


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