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I'm hoping that one day there will suddenly start a yellow update blink on my N900 and when I check what it is it says "Maemo 7 (Leste) is ready to be installed. Do you wish to continue?"

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But another hand "n" devices have some good points. I don't mind if Leste team put some effort to check if it Leste is possible for N810 even it delays Leste for another devices (even I wait it to N900 and Droid 4). Because there is not so many devices with good keyboard and resistive touchscreen and it is so cheap these days, because Nokia build lot of them. Yes it can be little slow on N810, but maybe not too slow if make some kind of minimum Leste version. Can it be help if swap is on SD-card and it's OMAP2420-chip has PowerVR MBX 3D accelerator?

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How about Maemo-Leste for Jolla Phone?

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Maybe I repeat but I'm waiting for this port because I almost broke N95-2 bootloader. Same SoC as N810.

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I think we should let the devs concentrate on the devices that are already being worked on.
I wish I had the skills to help with that...
What help can a spare time hacker and non-programmer offer? (Not a rhethorical question, I had a look at the list of tasks and it's all way beyond me.)

Sure it would be nice to have more devices but isn't that something to ask after the basics have been dealt with? Because last time I looked at it, there was still a lot to be done.

Or roll up your sleeves and try to get it to boot on $FAVORITE_DEVICE.

Easy to say for me, I have a N900, but maybe one could try in a VM first and take a look?

Also, I recently ordered a Motorola Droid 4 specifically to run Leste on it :D

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Agree, and luckily N900, Pro 1 and Droid 4 cover a lot of terrain.
Luckily N900 is included it does offer the best display. And the most productivity say ANTI-addictive useless time-wasting browsing social media is a built-in feature assured by hardware limitation.

Same here. I think just running it on favourite device and report would do , however I am totally out of it, hard to imagine following a cryptic manual.
I had a terrible time installing Sailfish X on Xperia X and that was supposed to be wel documented smooth user friendly process :( Only second to wasting time on Windows issues or installation.

I have a feeling though that if I was to devote time, even pay annual fee for Maemo Leste support and development, the reward would be bigger than all the money and effort invested and stress endured due to would be alternatives to N900. (Jolla, Neo900, certain "privacy" Android ones...)

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Ah...where is good ol' Dave when you need him...
Since what we need here is a poll!
Hahaha...
It would bide the time...

Personally ...I know I am pretty sharp...not to toot my own horn...or anything...
But yeah...
the advanced hoodoo...
in voodoo ...
that the boys do ...
Means I need lots of coffee ...chimichangas ...a cache of pharma...and a therapist on speeddial to keep up with...
And I am a wee bit spread too thin the last few months to spare that amount of cerebral cell damage...

The pro is an unknown at this point ..
Best options as has been mentioned are the n900 and droid ...
(I wouldn't mind a chroot for the n8x0 ...all that being said.)

Actually ..on the topic of resistive screens and qwerty keyboards and Leste...
I would prefer to see Leste finally do what should be done for maemo...

Become a proper Linux PC distro.

THAT would be my daily for work and play..on my 3 touch / penabled convertible Toshiba Portege m780s ...
If Leste can break out of the handheld ...
And be a proper distro...
Then maemo survival isn't in a state of perpetual existential threat as it has been for the longest time.
(Not that I have mentioned this topic before or anything ... :D)

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Tried the latest build this weekend. Super impressed, stable and looks just like Maemo. I am in love. Thanks to the creator. Can’t wait to see what happens next.

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If we get maemo leste running on a fxtec pro, this could be the ultimate device and path forward. I know it’s been discussed but seeing how good leste is, it all within reach.

Also, anyone know what this is about?

https://github.com/NotKit/maemo-leste-fxtec-pro1-debos

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TheKit has managed to nspawn Leste on Pro¹!
I hope i am allowed to share but i sense he only did not here since he is busy with more important things.
Colors are BGR swapped but that is only the first mention from 27th Jan.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...200127_001.png

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How much effort would it take to have a Gemini/Cosmo Communicator port? Are there any plans in that direction?

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While potentially possible, I am not sure this would make sense. It's likely a bit too invasive. But some form to make it easier to try would be nice.


There are no plans for any "annual fees". We might eventually set up a way for people to donate, but I think right now that just complicates everything, because we'll have to do something with the money, and that's always complicated. If we can do without that kind of headaches, that would be my preference.


For the above three devices, libhybris in some form indeed might work, but we (Maemo Leste) are not currently planning to support this kind of setup. I think we can revisit what "tiers of support" we could offer for various devices once we're happy enough with the support one of our target devices. Only then do we know that our userspace is in good enough shape that it makes sense to think about how to expand the (hardware) base of support.

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Maybe it is too early ask, but what is camera photo/video status for devices? Leste web-pages doesn't tell it.

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Well I dug an old N900 out of the closet today. Had to build a battery for it. And solder a USB cable to it. I tried flashing Fremantle but that got stuck in a boot loop. Not sure why. But flashing Leste went smoothly.

Good job to those working on this. Keep it up. I wish I could contribute in some meaningful way, but hey I can at least test it. Maybe I'll start lurking on the freenode.

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Could it be possible to get some updates of Leste? I understood the main target is now Pinephone to get it work, but any news about Leste for N900 would be nice to have. I have been checking occasionally the N900 status table but there is no update date so not sure how updated that status is.

Checked also from Leste youtube channel videos and noticed that one device had VLC, gnomeplayer, wireshark etc. installed. Would be nice if someone had time to list what apps are working already.

Like tomorrow is my birthday and everything.

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Do you know of the IRC (chat) logs? http://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt
That's where you'll find all the latest news.
I generally do CTRL + F to find specific keywords. You can sift out some screenshots by searching ".jpg".

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Never used IRC. Maybe I should try. If the info is there.

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That's actually not true, for now the main targeted devices are still Nokia N900 and Motorola Droid 4. The Pinephone is indeed a targeted device as well since it is relatively easy to get an up-to-date mainline kernel running on it, but it is not a higher priority target than the N900 or Droid 4.

Since Leste is based on Devuan (so Debian without systemd) you can bet that most applications that run on your Linux desktop will run on Leste as well, as long as it has an ARM binary compiled for it. And that's a lot of apps already :) As far as I know the main challenge is not getting applications to run on it however, but getting them usable on touch-input devices with (for now, generally) low resolutions.

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Thank dog for that!
(Since I own both... :D)

So true.
Even on current Fremantle e.g. claws-mail works just fine, but the UX is extremely painful even with the stylus.
FWIW, I don't think the low resolution is the problem but the high density, compared to desktop monitors (the N900's 800x480 would take up a significant screen area on my desktop, much larger than the phone's actual screen size). Fonts are sometimes large enough, sometimes way too small, toolbar buttons and other icons tend to be tiny etc.

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I think it is sometimes better tiny buttons and icons than no enough buttons fit to screen. I actually like those Maemo software that have to use with pen.

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^ Claws-mail isn't really a Maemo app.

It's also how stylus or finger drags translate (scrolling almost always triggers a selection).

And the icons are really tiny, even for the stylus:
https://dt.iki.fi/stuff/forums/maemo...307-161651.png
The little pink thing I circled red is what I have to double tap to open/close a folder...

That said, it isn't unusable!
And I believe this is configurable, I jsut need some time to get in there.
And generally as mail clients go, claws is practically feature-complete.

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yes double tap (click) with pen is hard, because you easily click some pixels different place. I hope that all programmers that use double click should implement that second click can be around 32 pixels from first click.

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Pavel posted some info here one or two days ago:

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/messag...b5515a.en.html


Anything you'd like to see, or like to contribute? :-)

The pinephone is not the main target, the N900 and Droid 4 are big targets. We'll have another update post soon. I need to travel in a few days and have been busy, but we'll have one soon -- few days max.

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Some progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCnErJnkWQM

Still rough around the edges, but we're getting there. Big thanks to all that worked and continue work on PVR driver.

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Thanks to all who has been working for it!

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hello community!!

I want to thank you all

I am a happy owner of a Droid4 with running on MaemoLeste 20200112 from a microSD card!

I need some help though:

1. what is the root password of my Leste?? ^_^
2. how could the OS be quicker have no lags? is there something we could do? is it only because of the GPU, PowerVR? or can we move the OS to the local storage or use a special type of SD card or ...?

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username root
password toor

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Yes, it is because of the GPU, in the new image (which is about to be build), drivers will be installed by default. But if you feel brave, you can do so even now, you need to enable ascii-devel repo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and then install xserver-xorg-video-omap and pvr-omap4 packages. Keep in mind there are some rendering glitches.

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NICE!!

well, I started with a "class 2" micro SD and switched now to a "class 10 U3 V30" and did noticed a better performance. what are the limit of the Droid4-on-board microSD-card-reader?

I do feel brave, but I should first configure my keyboard for vim use (...I am one of those...)

could somebody tell me how do I add a new key? for example ":"?
I could not find much info based on the wiki or form this post:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg135137.html

... am I posting questions in the wrong thread?

thank you!

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Is it possible to install the system straight onto the device, and not boot from a MicroSD?
(for the Droid4)

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some important hints:

https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtr...ment-590724053
https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtr...ment-590988806

and in general after installation the whole thread is good literature
https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/302

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New update!

https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...arch-2020.html

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I see there are images for Pi2 (which also works on 3), but will this work on a 4? I should have one arriving for another project soon so might be able to use it for Leste as well.

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I will check with Parazyd if he can build one, and then I'll test them on my raspi 3 (or 2, don't remember).

I don't know if they will work on a raspi 4 -- let me see if I can source one locally.

E: Looks like it, I'll see if I can pick one up today

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I can test next build with Raspi 2 with Motorola Lapdock 100 as monitor/keyboard/mouse.

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hello community,
I have a question about the terminal:
why can I run a bigger set of commands through ssh root@droid4-IP than in the local X Terminal of my Droid4? for example "swapon --show"

I am running the newest march-build

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Probably your path is different on different login sessions. I suppose when you start the local shell it sources different rc's for the shell.

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just a guess

sh root@droid4-IP => "root" user id ( swapon most probalbly in /sbin root only command)

local X Terminal => "user" user id ( /sbin not in path)

try "id" command to get your current user id

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thanx! the PATH were indeed different, so I decided to adapt them under /etc/profiles

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"id" is helpful to clarify!

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I would like to know how far is the goal to have cellular 3G calls+sms+data working? Like "hopefully next year", "could be in autumn", "maybe in the summer" or "dream on".

But if you who are working with Leste do not wan't to give that sort of guesses it's ok for me.