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nonsuch 2021-12-23 06:00

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salahkhani (Post 1573141)
Can any body from Maemo Leste users upload a video on Youtube share his experience with this OS either brief or thoroughly, I want to see what changes occurred if you please..

Thanks in advance...

Have you tried putting "Maemo Leste video 2021" into your favorite search engine?

Thanks in advance...

reinob 2022-01-23 17:22

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Hmm.. after all these years I suddenly had the urge to check what the status was with the N900...

I'm now running Leste and I have to say I'm seriously impressed by what I'm seeing. Finally a true mobile linux :)

I have to go through many things, including probably wiping mmcblk1 to use it with Leste (at least as storage dump), but for that I have to make sure I know how exactly u-boot is working, as currently it reads off Mydocs, so I have to change that first.

Lots to do.. but ssh and Modest (!) are working, so for now i'm really happy :)

teroyk 2022-01-29 18:32

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nonsuch (Post 1573054)

I hope that Maemo Leste doesn't go to forever update hell (if you upgrade new version of OS you have to install new version of all software or if you want install new version of software you have to install new version of OS). That is why I don't like iOS/Android/modern macOS (old Mac OS didn't have that problem)/modern Windows/modern Linux. Update stream model sucks!

Where is downcompability like with Symbian/DOS/TOS/System(Mac OS)/AmigaOS/Windows(up to 98SE)
If software doesn't need new features of OS, you could run it in older version of OS or you could run old software in newer OS. I think one best example is to run Mac System 1 software (from 1985) in Mac OS X 10.4.11PPC (from 2007). And yes you could do opposite too, if you didn't use developing tools based gcc.

Sorry this busting, but I hope we(I hope that I code something to Leste later) take versioning seriously and make programming documentation easy to follow what calls works in what version.

nonsuch 2022-01-30 09:01

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teroyk (Post 1573432)
I hope that Maemo Leste doesn't go to forever update hell (if you upgrade new version of OS you have to install new version of all software or if you want install new version of software you have to install new version of OS).

I think that's one of the developers' main points: they want to create a true "mainline" GNU/Linux distribution for phones, where that specifically won't happen, and updates (theoretically) go on forever.

Additionally, if you have a phone with a hardware keyboard you can use non-GUI apps, and those are usually more long-lived anyhow.

Quote:

Where is downcompability like with Symbian/DOS/TOS/System(Mac OS)/AmigaOS/Windows(up to 98SE)
Since both Fremantle and Leste are true GNU/Linux OSs I think you're looking in the wrong direction there.

However, consider 3 decades of GNU/Linux software at your fingertips!
That's what Leste stands for.

Quote:

I hope we take versioning seriously and make programming documentation easy to follow what calls works in what version.
QFT

bradvesp 2022-01-30 12:25

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I'll try getting this to work on my N900 again. I tried a few weeks ago but hit some problems:
The usb connection is tenuous in the rare cases it connects at all,
I couldn't install u-boot (I imagine I have broken dependencies I tried upgrading glib or libc6 or something a few years ago and havn't been able to install most things), and
my MicroSD card is either corrupt, the wrong class, or I incorrectly formated the storage system.
It looks hopeless but I doubt it is. I'd given up on installing anything new a few years ago. I use the N900 mostly as a media player and report generation device. It's worked fine for that. I even get a rare phonecall on it. I havn't any reason to install new software, but Memo-Leste seems relevant (and I could probably use the web browser more often). I highly appreciate the desire to keep the kernal upstream involved in downstream developments; it's honest and rational. (Google's approach is phony and has fooled many many people.) Any suggestions about how to get my N900 current are appreciated.

Macros 2022-02-02 13:21

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
The lastest image maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-n900-20220202.img does not contain a uImage on the boot partition.
Code:

$ ls
boot  config-5.15.2  lost+found  System.map-5.15.2  vmlinuz-5.15.2

compared to the working maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-n900-20220109.img
Code:

$ ls
config-5.1.21  lost+found  System.map-5.1.21  uImage  uImage-5.1.21

and U-Boot can not start it.

Without really knowing what I do I tried to
Code:

sudo mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n kernel -d vmlinuz-5.15.2 uImage-5.15.2
which lead to a restart after a short delay (I guess the watchdog) and
Code:

sudo mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C gzip -a 80008000    -e 80008000 -n kernel -d vmlinuz-5.15.2 uImage-5.15.2
which lead to "Error: bad gzipped data" and a restart.

Maemish 2022-02-02 15:32

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
You should report this to the team on iirc channel or github. This is more a user chat thread.

freemangordon 2022-02-02 19:51

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
We are aware and working on it

reinob 2022-02-07 17:04

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Guys: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=101300

In short, we need everyone we can get to join the Maemo eV.

ric9K 2022-03-22 07:29

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Great news from Leste,
Have you seen this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemo Leste Blog
A couple of months ago we were made aware of the DAPSI project by our dear Michiel of NLnet. DAPSI is one of the projects in the scope of the European Union's Next Generation Internet initiative and it offers funding for projects that research data portability and privacy solutions to give people better control over their personal data.

Seeing this, we realised that Maemo Leste could be a good fit. We managed to write an application and apply to the open call just before the deadline.

A month or so later...


t-b 2022-03-22 12:32

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ric9K (Post 1573805)
Great news from Leste,
Have you seen this?

Yes Wizzup already mentioned it :)

https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=510

ric9K 2022-03-22 12:39

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
:confused::eek:
I didn't see it was old.
Thought it was good fresh news...
Let's hunt for other good fresh news...:)

juiceme 2022-03-22 16:01

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
This is pretty wonderful and amazing News!

taixzo 2022-03-22 16:57

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
In other news: Imagination Technologies released an open-source PowerVR driver the other day. It doesn't support the specific chipset the N900 uses, but hopefully it can be modified to do so at some point in the future, removing the need for a graphics blob in Leste.

freemangordon 2022-03-22 19:12

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1573809)
In other news: Imagination Technologies released an open-source PowerVR driver the other day. It doesn't support the specific chipset the N900 uses, but hopefully it can be modified to do so at some point in the future, removing the need for a graphics blob in Leste.

Unfortunately it is of no help to powervr 5-series

freemangordon 2022-03-22 19:16

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
5 Attachment(s)
Addressbook is finally getting in shape :)

freemangordon 2022-03-22 19:17

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
4 Attachment(s)
several more

Koiruus 2022-03-24 14:33

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Greetings!
It has been a while (at least 2 years) since I used my n900. Recently I bought a new (used, obviously) device, and I thought I'd like to try Leste on it.

I found out that I had already forgot much more about how to set the n900 up, and was too lazy to read all the stuff again, so I just used the trial and error way. :D Finally I got device flashed, CSSU testing installed, U-boot and power kernel installed, leste entry for u-boot done and latest leste image (maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-n900-20220206.img.xz) written to sd.

But when I pick Leste from U-boot, the screen just blacks out just after printing the "booting kernel..." or "starting kernel..." or whatever it says. Do you have any easy explanation what I am doing wrong?

Halftux 2022-03-27 11:10

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koiruus (Post 1573822)
But when I pick Leste from U-boot, the screen just blacks out just after printing the "booting kernel..." or "starting kernel..." or whatever it says. Do you have any easy explanation what I am doing wrong?

In principle it is normal that it blacks out. The backlight will be off, but under the right conditions you could see that some linux boot messages are shown. Leave it for a while it takes long to boot. When you still see nothing you could try to push the power button short and see if it wakes up and the lock screen is shown.

I would suggest maybe try to boot the image by loading the kernel through the flasher or read the device N900 category from maemo leste wiki and compare it with your steps you have done.

Maemish 2022-04-06 03:34

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Is there anywhere a list of all the most problematic closed source stuff which gives problems for getting Maemo Leste to work well? Or can someone make a short list?

freemangordon 2022-04-07 07:16

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1573886)
Is there anywhere a list of all the most problematic closed source stuff which gives problems for getting Maemo Leste to work well? Or can someone make a short list?

https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages

edit: feel free to edit that list whth what is already REed in leste

Wizzup_ 2022-04-17 06:27

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
New news update!

https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...pril-2022.html

teroyk 2022-04-19 09:45

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
SMS seems to work, but how about MMS? or is there version of fMMS (https://wiki.maemo.org/FMMS) to Leste?

t-b 2022-04-19 16:24

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzup_ (Post 1573968)

Fantastic update!
Looking forward to try it out on one of my spare N900's. Very curious about the phone call capabilities and all other improvements.
https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900

Maemish 2022-04-19 17:09

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Can someone who knows the exact specs to update the N900 table?

dredlok706 2022-04-20 06:59

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
How to get SMS-es working in latest Leste for N900? :D
I don't see any GUI...

teroyk 2022-04-20 11:27

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dredlok706 (Post 1573995)
How to get SMS-es working in latest Leste for N900? :D
I don't see any GUI...

Ahh..I though that this was SMS-conversation:
https://maemo-leste.github.io/images...s-overview.png
https://maemo-leste.github.io/images...-landscape.png
Pictures are from above link.

Maemish 2022-04-20 11:50

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Great work Leste Team!!!

dredlok706 2022-04-21 09:19

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
But where is conversations app?
I have the latest Leste build and don't see any new app for SMS

Wizzup_ 2022-05-04 08:44

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dredlok706 (Post 1574007)
But where is conversations app?
I have the latest Leste build and don't see any new app for SMS

Right, it's still only in the -devel repos and only renders the conversations. As stated, we're working on adding telepathy support now, it will be ready for the next update.

teroyk 2022-07-27 12:03

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Please make some news for brave us to install Maemo Leste.

salahkhani 2022-07-28 19:27

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
We are all waiting to see the final stage of this OS in order to install it right away.. Hope they will finish soon.;)

teroyk 2022-07-30 09:59

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salahkhani (Post 1574452)
We are all waiting to see the final stage of this OS in order to install it right away.. Hope they will finish soon.;)

I even don't wait final stage yet, some info about progress in phone and SMS UI:s is just enough for me now.

Wizzup_ 2022-07-31 17:19

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Yeah, we're working on a new update post, should be out in the next few days.

Maemish 2022-11-10 10:33

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Is there coming an update soon? With the news it could be good to advertise this forum a bit too.

salahkhani 2022-11-10 11:02

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I do not know what happen to the project.. Is there any news. Is it going to see the light and install it in our devices. Full Functional OS.

Maemish 2022-11-10 11:19

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Project is going on all the time. That is not unclear. Just hoping for news.

bradvesp 2022-11-10 11:45

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I agree.
(short post)

Danct12 2022-11-11 03:23

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I'm in the Maemo Leste IRC and can confirm that the project is still going on.

Wizzup_ 2023-01-13 11:01

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
The latest update is finally here: https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...uary-2023.html


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