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Wow! Just wow! Waiting for the phonecalls to work which seems it is muhh closer and this brigthened my year!

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Would something like this work with N900? Thinking of 3D printed backcover with space for it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...f_=as_li_ss_tl

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Yes, these are very good news!!!

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I don't know of any USB modem that actually allows for audio routing, so it won't be useful for calls. For the N900 we'll just have to fix calls the proper way.

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Quote from another thread.

I have no idea how many people are still using the N900, but I still prefer the hardware compared to my Droid4.
Use them both, so i certainly appreciate work spend on the Droid4 but hopefully the N900 will not be left unfinished. That said, I can totally understand if that happens anyway due to lack of time and shifting of priorities to more modern phones.

Congrats on the amazing progress on Maemo Leste it seems to be shaping up to become a solid daily driver. Thanks for the update!

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I feel exactly the same. I also have Droid 4 and I am already daily-driving it, with my work SIM - but there's just something about the N900 that makes it stand out regardless :)

I can assure you Wizzup and fmg would like to keep it supported, but yeah, there are a lot of things they need to work on, besides N900. If anyone else can help with N900, it will definitely be appreciated.

Maybe you can do something yourself to improve N900 support? I don't have much skill myself, but I am learning as I go along, and have been able to work on a couple of fixes that made it to the recent update post (e.g. make accelerometer work over IIO, get charger detection fixed, etc.)

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Alo its great news btw any hint for running telegram-desktop on last image droid 4 , thks a lot

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I have run telegram desktop with very early leste image. If I recall right in some point I needed to run things with sudo from terminal to get them launch (which of course should not be the case).

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Its working Thank a Lot

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Thia is "Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement"-thread...I just wondering that is there coming Maemo-Leste pre-beta announcement any time soon?

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How soon?
My guess is that if you are in your 30s you will probably experience that in your lifetime.

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Isn't the Quectel EG25 in the Pinephone and Pinephone Pro a USB modem?

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When I install the latest N900 image from the N900 Leste wikipage from the latest image link I still get when I launch Leste the welcome window which states there is a major update which I can find behind a link. But the date in the stating text points to an earlier date. Which is the latest? From the wikipage link or the welcome window?

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All N900 images from 2021 to today:
stable:
https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/
dev:
https://maedevu.maemo.org/images-devel/n900/

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Is there something I should do differently if I launch the devel image? Flashed it, booted the device, got the booting texts through but having a black screen and desktop not starting.


And it takes a really long time to get to see the booting texts.

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I wanted to try the devel cause with the stable:

1. Firefox-esr took like ages to load (it was faster with some earlier image) . Have to try how well it will work but takes many many minutes to load.

2. QTbrowser launched but couldn't scroll a news page, tried without doing apt upgrade and with apt upgrade. It just opened and froze even I waited very long time and let it load.

3. The same happened with Surf2.

4. Application manager is a bit burden to use cause scrolling with stylus doesn't work that well. The same happens with different settings menus.

5, If I shutdown the system I need to take the battery off before I can boot the device again.

6. Language (finnish) keyboard layout doesn't make a different. Xterm and apps still use english layout.

Was there somewhere a wish list for apps to port from Maemo 5?

My wishes would be:

1. Loadapplet: shows on the top bar cpu and mem. Very usefull while opening apps to see there is still loading going on.

2. Hopefully some easy way to overclock.

3. The ssu tweaks that gave a lot of possibilities to take off transitions and stuff and it made the device snappier. The CSSU version of Leste has fewer options.

I will share here soon a link to pictures of booting texts.

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This?:
https://leste.maemo.org/Wishlist

I afraid that every new version is more slower if nobody start make optimization specially for N900. But maybe it is time to optimize, when all working.

But thanks to review where Leste is with N900 right now.
More reviews with different devices are welcome.

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Now I remember why I stopped using N900. Two days using it again, 7h sleep in two nights. It is like an interesting puzzle and the challenge it gives you and the feeling of success when you crack a problem.

Will update here but as I just yesterday night heard, the current Beowulf image is not working as well as will be the chimaera which should be published soon, maybe in couple of months. But now when I started I will do tests with beowulf.

Atleast one thing is clear already. If starting from scratch and gpnna do a lot of installing apps before one is gonna start using them, changing swappiness from 60 to 10 makes a huge different. I tjink I will try to do some installs with temporary 1 swappiness so if the device suddenly makes a reboot the swappiness is returned to a normal.

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The overall slowness on N900 is clearly a combination of factors:
The type of uSDcard in use.
The type of swap.
The time needed for Hildon to load properly.
The difficult 2 first boots.

The first boot from a fresh img is delicate. Be patient, and let Hildon loading for let's say 3 minutes. Then the first thing to do is checking if swap has been activated automatically or not. Htop shows swap usage.
Do not try to install anything or connect to internet without swap -and root partition extanded-
For example, apt-worker will start automatically if you connect your device to wifi.
Consequences: out of memory.
With precaution -using a fast uSDcard, extanded partition, swap- and after 2 reboots Chimaera is working well. Even better with overclock and the problematic 125Mhz frequency removed.

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Latest news:
https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...a-release.html

I just wondering is why there is win theme mentioned, why not miku theme for example?

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Hello everyone!
I just installed maemo leste on sd 10 speed class using nokia n900 and i have much lags and frezes, and it's include that's i'm already use overcklock.
Foexeample i trying downoload and install something via HAM and it has retrieve a ~20 minutes.
Somethime i got UI broke, when i scroll menu items - it's lagging.
What's it can be, and what need to do for repair it?
Thanks to community.

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Definitely something is really wrong. Even with a very slow class 1 sdcard there is not too much lag and no freeze.
You probably need to start over with no overclock first.
Be sure to extand root on the entire sdcard and check if swap is enabled. Then reboot.
Don't forget that the first time you connect your device on WiFi apt-worker will start automatically and N900 will be very slow for let's say 3-4 minutes.
After a new installation, if your N900 is still freezing and lagging i think your sdcard is probably faulty or corrupted.

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FYI guys, here are what's working now on N900 with Maemo Leste :

Calls (2G, 3G, 3.5G) (need better integration)
SMS
WiFi
Data (2G, 3G, 3.5G)
SIP calls and messages (TLS)
Social messaging (through libpurple or bitlbee)
FM Transmitter
Infrared ir-tx (custom driver needed)
HW acceleration
Overclock (850MHz actually, 1GHz might be possible)
GPS
Web browser (links2 gui mode) (TLS 1.3)
Video ( XV acceleration with Mplayer/SMplayer)
Audio (Pulseaudio and UCM)
Game Emulators (Retroarch) (Picodrive) (Pcsx-rearmed)
Youtube streaming and download (yt-dlp)
Almost all classic command line tools
Emails (imap4)
The last Linux kernel is 6.1.48 (2023)
And other things i don't remember.

In fact only bluetooth (+ fmrx) and the camera are not working yet.
Of course many functionalities need some better integration or need to be improved.

In my opinion, touch screen responsiveness is still slower than Fremantle but someone with transition.ini experience could help.

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It would seem that the signing keys for maemo leste's apt repository (maedevu.maemo.org/leste) have expired in the last couple of days. I have reported it through github but I am not sure whether that is the best way to reach the maintainers. fails with a EXPKEY signal.

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The best way to reach the dev team is IRC: #maemo-leste

Wizzup is already working on the issue apparently.

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Some questions:
1. Is swap enabled by default of is user required to do something?
2. To overclock do I need to hassle with fremantle side or can everything be done on Leste?
3. When you list what works do they work out of the box or are there things user needs to do to get them working?

But I appreciate the work you have been doing which I have followed on iirc. It is awesome how much effort you have put to this! And big thanks for an update!!!

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I think you need to enable it manually via Terminal:

And append this to /etc/fstab:

Fremantle requires you only to add a new bootmenu item using uImageX instead of uImage BUT you can make it other way - rename uImage to uImageOrig and uImageX to uImage. This will use overclocked kernel by default. Keep in mind that before kernel update - remove uImage, move uImageOrig to uImage and proceed with update, then do all overclocking steps again.

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Thanks Maemish !

Swap is supposed to be activated by default in the last image (but i didn't try it)

For overclock, it is better and safer to do U-boot things from Fremantle in my opinion.

Most things are working out of the box depending of course on settings and apps installed and excepting calls and ir-tx stuff which are still experimental (but working well).

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Many thanks, a replacement key has already been shared by Wizzup, which can be manually updated with the commands below:

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Overclocking is a must so it should be made as easy as possible.

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Totally agree but that's not so easy with a mainline up to date kernel...it means providing for each kernel update, 2 different versions of it i think.
My overclock method can't survive between 2 kernel updates most of the time.
We must ask to the dev team. But definitely overclock is essential from my point of view too, especially for gaming, streaming and multitasking. (like Fremantle in fact)

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Sadly even with overclock, 2 GB of swap, expanded SD etc. - still Leste is slow like impossible on my N900. Just not usable. Interface is very very laggy, everything (even UI navigation) is so slow and takes lot of time.

I tried three different SD cards and three different N900s - the same :(

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I don't know what's going wrong but even with no overclock the UI is not supposed to be laggy.
Did you try different SDcards just in case ?
Are you up to date with chimaera-devel ?

Note: remember that from the last image swap is activated automatically and use emmc 768MB swap partition. You don't need to create a swap file anymore.

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Hah, I wanted to write "I tried three different SD cards" and wrote "SIM cards" instead :D

I'll try latest image then, but I always used 2 GB swap and UI was laggy anyway :( On three N900s

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I haven't found the UI that laggy and tweaking transitions made a big difference too. It would be good to have transition tweaks to be included the image. Haven't yet tried the latest image.

I wonder if there is something using the ram and cpu on the back, dredlock. Like with fremantle the Opera browser feom devel repo left browserd to work on the back so that it made the device unusable unless rebooted. Do you have conky? With that it is easy to see what stays on and is making device to be laggy.

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Not sure if there is already on the latest image the loading bar to show when an app is in use. That is why I have hoped to have Loadapplet on Leste cause it showed on the top bar that there is ram and cpu in use and should just wait when it dropps before trying to do anything else. That helped with Opera browser on fremantle when opening pages you knew to wait before trying to do something else.

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Ok, if you're sure you have followed the right process maybe something is wrong with last image(s).
The 20230618 image works well (i even tried it on a very slow SDcard with no troubles). Maybe you could try this one to see if things work better ?

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How about USB, does host mode works like it worked with Maemo 5 with patches:
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232
example can I connect memory-stick or usb-mouse to N900?

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Good question, might be possible in theory and really cool.
But that's a kind of tricky hack and not sure it is a priority for devs.
Maybe someone could help for this ?