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freemangordon 2018-09-02 21:26

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1547914)
Are you planning on replicating/ porting the existing media framework/ mafw? There was some packages that came up when looking at porting another package for games frontend used by Marble etc. I know my earlier work on GTK3 and the Fremantle-GTK2 work that fmg did, didn't really look into it.

https://github.com/maemo-leste/mafw/commits/master
http://maedevu.maemo.org/leste/pool/main/libm/libmafw/

https://github.com/maemo-leste/mafw-...commits/master
http://maedevu.maemo.org/leste/pool/main/m/mafw-shared/

more to follow :)

P.S. I ported mafw-iradio-source as well, but in my eternal wisdom I put the code in /tmp and rebooted before pushing, however, the only tough package will be mafw-gst-renderer, it needs gst-0.10->gst-1.0 port. Not impossible though.

Android_808 2018-09-03 05:54

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Typical, can't remember what package it was now. Still needed for other packages like media player.

Whilst mentioning media player, I have one request. For the love of god, can someone please change tracker handling of albums with same name (Greatest Hits) by looking at album artist during scanning.

pythoneye2 2018-09-25 22:30

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Code:

# a look (or Howto) at maemo-leste Running on real hardware (amd64)
# base system is ubuntu 16.04 and we use the latest maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.vdi virtualbox image and grub2

# why? hildon needs 3d hardware acceleration which is often not so well supported in a VM
# the leste wiki (https://leste.maemo.org/Virtual_Machine) on this topic is not so well?
# (are the .box images really Virtualbox images, for me it looks more like Vagrant images (sorry, i downloaded the 1GB image 2 times))

# as usual perform all action on your own risk, dont risk your data, you are playing with your disks. Make backups.

# to get disk raw image
vboxmanage clonehd -format RAW maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.vdi maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.raw

# to get partion image
sudo bash
losetup -f -P maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.raw
cat /dev/loop0p1 > maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP

# if you have a free partition (Y) on hdd X slot you can do
# (careful dont overwrite a wrong one!)
cat maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP > /dev/sdXpY

# and create an u-boot boot entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom

menuentry "maemo-leste" {
        set root='(hdX,msdosY)'       
        linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64 root=/dev/sdXpY ro quit net.ifnames=0
        initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64
 }

# and
update-grub

# sadly i didnt had a free spot for leste so above is untested.
# if you dont have a free partion you can also boot from the partion image stored on a "data" partion
# but for that you have to modify the initramdisk located in maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP/boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64

losetup -f -P maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP
# assuming we get mapped to /dev/loop0

mkdir /mnt/maemo
mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/maemo/

mkdir /mnt/maemo/root/initrd
cd /mnt/maemo/root/initrd
# decompress initrd
zcat ../../boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64 | cpio -i

# replace the function local_mount_root() in /mnt/maemo/root/initrd/scripts/local with an ADJUSTED Version of this
# we need to fix the location to your maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP rootfs image
local_mount_root()
{
        local_top
        local_device_setup "${ROOT}" "root file system"
        ROOT="${DEV}"

        # Get the root filesystem type if not set
        if [ -z "${ROOTFSTYPE}" ]; then
                FSTYPE=$(get_fstype "${ROOT}")
        else
                FSTYPE=${ROOTFSTYPE}
        fi

       
        local_premount       

        if [ "${readonly}" = "y" ]; then
                roflag=-r
        else
                roflag=-w
        fi

        # FIXME This has no error checking
        modprobe ${FSTYPE}

        mkdir rootfs_base
        chmod 0777 rootfs_base

        # FIRST ADJUST
        # fix this to the location of your maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP filesystem
        # in this case maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP ist stored on an ext4  data partiton on /dev/sda10
        mount -w -t ext4 /dev/sda10 /rootfs_base

        # SECOND ADJUST
        # fix this to the right path of your maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP filesystem
        # the  path to maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP in this case is /antiX/maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP
        # (this creates a loop mount for the root filesystem)
        mount -w ${ROOTFLAGS} -t ext4 /rootfs_base/antiX/maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP ${rootmnt}

        [ "$quiet" != "y" ] && log_begin_msg "root mounted"

        # checkfs ${ROOT} root "${FSTYPE}"

        # # FIXME This has no error checking
        # # Mount root
        # if [ "${FSTYPE}" != "unknown" ]; then
        #        mount ${roflag} -t ${FSTYPE} ${ROOTFLAGS} ${ROOT} ${rootmnt}
        # else
        #        mount ${roflag} ${ROOTFLAGS} ${ROOT} ${rootmnt}
        # fi
}

# compress the initrd image again
cd /mnt/maemo/root/initrd
find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip -9 > /mnt/maemo/boot/initrdImg.img

# and create an ADJUSTED u-boot boot entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
# again fix the device and the path

menuentry "maemo-leste.img" {
        set isofile="/antiX/maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-virtual-20180425.imgP"
        loopback loop (hd0,10)$isofile
        linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64 ro quit net.ifnames=0
        initrd (loop)/boot/initrdImg.img
 }

# and
update-grub

# Yippy: i managed to boot into maemo-leste on real amd64 hardware

# first impressions:
# nice, lean, cool old school mouse pointer
# a few bugs
# the mouse pointer is invisible in firefox
# i havent found out how to effective navigate the UI with the keyboard (switch desktops, switch windows) (seems it is somehow more optimised for touch ;))


pythoneye2 2018-09-28 22:04

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
use at your own risk and reponsibility.

A first try at customizing menus in maemo-leste

install:


download
leste-menu_noicon.tar.gz

extract to leste root

cd /
tar xvvf leste-menu_noicon.tar.gz

# copy icons (for example from maemo) to leste
scp -r /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/app_install* root@$maemo-leste-ip:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/
scp -r /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/app_install* root@$maemo-leste-ip:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/

# on leste
update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/*

done.

Result should look very similar to http://maemo.hinoarashi.de/catorise/...526-190524.png from https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73443

how it is done and some insights:


I just copied my maemo configuration generated by catorise over to leste.

Involving
/opt/catorise and /etc/xdg/menus/hildon.menu
/etc/xdg/menus/hildon.menu is a xml file, which uses /opt/catorise/share/*.directory as menus

At this time i have the usual catorise submenus, but right icons doesnt show up and the names are
ai_category_?

root@devuan:~# cat /opt/catorise/share/system.directory
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Directory
Name=ai_category_system
Icon=app_install_system
X-Text-Domain=hildon-application-manager

ai_category seems to be a naming convention from catorise.
So icons arent found and Name is taken.

Lets look at the user_guide

cat /usr/share/applications/hildon/user-guide.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name=tana_ap_user_guide
Comment=Show the user guide in a new window
Exec=dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.osso_browser /com/nokia/osso_browser/request com.nokia.osso_browser.open_new_window string:http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/userguides/
Icon=tasklaunch_user_guide
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=System
X-HildonDesk-ShowInToolbar=true
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable

lets modify /opt/catorise/share/system.directory
root@devuan:~# cat /opt/catorise/share/system.directory
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Directory
Name=ai_category_system
#Icon=app_install_system
Icon=tasklaunch_user_guide
X-Text-Domain=hildon-application-manager

and we get a nice white on blue question mark.

find / | grep tasklaunch_user_guide
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/tasklaunch_user_guide.png

on maemo
find / | grep app_install_system
/opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/app_install_system.png
/opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/app_install_system.png


so to be save i copy both, (they seem to be the same)
scp -r /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/app_install* root@$maemo-leste-ip:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/hildon/
scp -r /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/app_install* root@$maemo-leste-ip:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/

no, still just tasklaunch_user_guide icon is working.

ok, i guess we need to update some icon cache

after
update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/*
(and a reboot ?)
we have working icons (great) and .. names, ahm (thats different on maemo), great (if the names werent all ai_category_? like on maemo).

[fix using emacs on path /opt/catorise/share
dired-do-query-replace-regexp Name=ai_category_ Name=
doesnt work ???]

but sed did
cd /opt/catorise/share
find ./ -type f -exec sed -i -e 's/Name=ai_category_/Name=/g' {} \;

resulting in more meaningful names

lets try to install a debian packet and see if it shows up, lets try something small and useful: mc

apt-get install mc

and it didnt show up (there is a known fix https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/82)

cp /usr/share/applications/mc.desktop /usr/share/applications/hildon/mc.desktop

update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/*

Icon and name should show up, but it doesnot launch. (https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/165)
Lets look why.

# devuan
cat /usr/share/applications/mc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Midnight Commander
Name[af]=Middernag Kommandeur
Name[eo]=Meznokta komandanto
Name[fa]=فرمان*دار نیمه شب
Name[ko]=미드나잇 커멘더
Name[lv]=Pusnakts Komandieris
Name[nso]=Molaedi wa Bosegogare
Name[th]=มิดไนท์คอมมานเดอร์
Name[ve]=Muhulwane wa vhukati ha vhusiku
Name[xh]=Umyaleli Waphakathi kobusuku
Name[zu]=Umyaleli waphakathi nobusuku
Comment=File manager
Comment[pl]=Menedżer plików
Exec=mc
Icon=MidnightCommander
Terminal=true
Type=Application
Categories=ConsoleOnly;Utility;FileManager;System; FileTools;
Keywords=file manager;console;

# on Maemo
cat /usr/share/applications/hildon/mc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Name=Midnight Commander
Comment=Console-based file manager and visual shell
Exec=osso-xterm -e mc
Icon=mc
# Terminal=true does not work in Maemo
X-Window-Icon=mc
X-Window-Icon-Dimmed=mc
X-HildonDesk-ShowInToolbar=true
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable

Found "Terminal=true does not work in Maemo"
fixing to

root@devuan:~# cat /usr/share/applications/hildon/mc.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Midnight Commander
Name[af]=Middernag Kommandeur
Name[eo]=Meznokta komandanto
Name[fa]=فرمان*دار نیمه شب
Name[ko]=미드나잇 커멘더
Name[lv]=Pusnakts Komandieris
Name[nso]=Molaedi wa Bosegogare
Name[th]=มิดไนท์คอมมานเดอร์
Name[ve]=Muhulwane wa vhukati ha vhusiku
Name[xh]=Umyaleli Waphakathi kobusuku
Name[zu]=Umyaleli waphakathi nobusuku
Comment=File manager
Comment[pl]=Menedżer plików
Exec=osso-xterm -e mc
Icon=MidnightCommander
#Terminal=true
Type=Application
Categories=ConsoleOnly;Utility;FileManager;System; FileTools;
Keywords=file manager;console;

starts mc in osso-xterm


to put it in a category edit /etc/xdg/menus/hildon.menu

for example in utilities:
...
<Menu>
<Name>utilities</Name>
<Directory>utilities.directory</Directory>
<Include>
<Filename>emacs24.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>mc.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>osso-xterm.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Layout>
<Filename>mc.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>osso-xterm.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>emacs24.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>all</Name>
<Directory>all.directory</Directory>
<Include>
<All/>
</Include>
<Layout>
<Filename>osso-xterm.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>emacs24.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>mc.desktop</Filename>
<Merge type="all"/>
</Layout>
<Exclude>
<Filename>catorise-browser.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-calendar.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-image-viewer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-modest.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-osso-addressbook.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-rtcom-call-ui.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>catorise-rtcom-messaging-ui.desktop</Filename>

</Exclude>
</Menu>
...

I dont know if there is a way to not repeat the entry in Include and Layout. Layout defines the actual gui position.
So in "utilities" mc goes first, in "all" osso-xterm.


Remarks
You cant currently use /debian/.desktop files in hildon directly cause terminal=true is not supported.
So currently seperation of /debian/.desktop and /hildon/.desktop files make sense,
you have to "import" them and cant just add the /usr/share/applications directory.
This alignes with the different ui interfaces of hildon apps and debian apps.
(and their problems right click, drag and drop, hover, keyboard shortcuts collisions)

osso-xterm -e should be something like debian-terminal-app i just used osso-xterm -e cause i didnt know better.
(Is something like debian-gui-app needed too?)

You currently have to modify (maemo-hildon) catorise for rebased hildon to fix "Name"s.

Rant
To make a nice menu creation application for hildon (hildon-rebased and many other modern UX) you need to follow
the (free)Desktop(.org) Menu Specification (which uses xml in Menus and the "Desktop Entry Specification"
which includes a simpler own file format)
and finally find out about the current icon caching mechanism.

different formats, different tools, different bugs, more to learn, easier to automate.

Android_808 2018-09-30 12:22

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Would it be worth you adding an issue to add terminal flag support to hildon? In addition, part of me seems to remember a memory leak when using catorise.

pythoneye2 2018-09-30 15:56

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1549013)
Would it be worth you adding an issue to add terminal flag support to hildon?

That is one one way to handle it.

Another one is to parse debian .desktop files and keep the hildon debian seperation.

for me that issue is https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/165
As usual the post just forget to add some basic info to recreate the issue (like what app/.desktop was tried)

I dont have a github account and im not registered on freenet, so i simply post some info in the only leste thread on maemo.org.

Quote:

In addition, part of me seems to remember a memory leak when using catorise.
So xdg menus (directories) in hildon are brocken, cause if i remember correctly catorise just creates a config for hildon.
I havent notice the impact on my daily, but of course havent looked at it.
But now that there is a test case for leste we can hopefully find some lost memorys (yours on this issue would be easier ) ;)

Android_808 2018-09-30 17:44

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I haven't done much with .desktop files. I know there is the issue with hildon menu starting in applications/hildon as mentioned in the link you referred to. I'm thinking more along the lines of making it so the desktop entries aren't hard coded to use osso-xterm should a replacement or alternative come along.

As it is part of the specs (https://standards.freedesktop.org/de...t/ar01s06.html) I don't see why it couldn't be added. The launcher would then just need to check for flag before executing the app.

Wizzup_ 2018-09-30 18:34

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pythoneye2 (Post 1549025)
That is one one way to handle it.

Another one is to parse debian .desktop files and keep the hildon debian seperation.

for me that issue is https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/165
As usual the post just forget to add some basic info to recreate the issue (like what app/.desktop was tried)

I dont have a github account and im not registered on freenet, so i simply post some info in the only leste thread on maemo.org.


So xdg menus (directories) in hildon are brocken, cause if i remember correctly catorise just creates a config for hildon.
I havent notice the impact on my daily, but of course havent looked at it.
But now that there is a test case for leste we can hopefully find some lost memorys (yours on this issue would be easier ) ;)

You can also join the mailing list: https://subscribe.dyne.org/
'maemo-leste'

Archives: https://subscribe.dyne.org/

I removed the require-registered flag from the irc channel for now.

Wizzup_ 2018-10-14 11:02

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
USB "PC Suite" mode kinda works with the applet now:

https://wizzup.org/n900-usb-pcsuite-1.png
https://wizzup.org/n900-usb-pcsuite-2.png

Decided to download the source for the wi-fi signal applet (http://maemo.org/packages/view/wifi-signal-applet/) and it just build and works:

https://wizzup.org/n900-wifi-applet.png

New blog post with much more info in a couple of days. :)

fw190 2018-10-14 21:08

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Any news on the Nexus 5 front? My phone is up and redy for testing:)

endsormeans 2018-10-14 21:22

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
yup.
ditto
+1 to that...!
here here...!!
bring it on for the nexus 5!
I have an extra one waiting JUST for Leste...

Wizzup_ 2018-10-15 17:48

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
I have a Nexus 5 at home. For some reason I assumed it would have a MicroSD card slot, but it doesn't. So I'm trying to figure out what the sensible/easy way to load an OS on it would be, without bricking the device. I think postmarketos has a wiki page on the Nexus 5, so perhaps I just need to check what they do/did.

I did boot an some test image (not Leste) over usb and verified that quite some kernel stuff works. I'll try it coming Wednesday.

taixzo 2018-10-15 19:37

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
You can load OSs via multiROM. Which OS to use is selected at boot time.

imaginaryenemy 2018-10-16 15:55

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzup_ (Post 1549367)
I have a Nexus 5 at home. For some reason I assumed it would have a MicroSD card slot, but it doesn't. So I'm trying to figure out what the sensible/easy way to load an OS on it would be, without bricking the device. I think postmarketos has a wiki page on the Nexus 5, so perhaps I just need to check what they do/did.

I did boot an some test image (not Leste) over usb and verified that quite some kernel stuff works. I'll try it coming Wednesday.

I used a micro-USB drive when putting Sailfish on my Nexus 5.

claustn 2018-10-16 19:25

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzup_ (Post 1549367)
I have a Nexus 5 at home. For some reason I assumed it would have a MicroSD card slot, but it doesn't. So I'm trying to figure out what the sensible/easy way to load an OS on it would be, without bricking the device. I think postmarketos has a wiki page on the Nexus 5, so perhaps I just need to check what they do/did.

I did boot an some test image (not Leste) over usb and verified that quite some kernel stuff works. I'll try it coming Wednesday.

With multirom you can transfer files easily with the usb cable from a pc or mount an external drive with an OTG cable.

Wizzup_ 2018-10-24 22:35

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Getting there ...

https://wizzup.org/leste-n5-initial.jpg

Bundyo 2018-10-25 19:26

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
There is a Maemo-Leste lecture announced for OpenFest in Bulgaria next week... Will try to be there. :)

Wizzup_ 2018-10-28 22:33

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1549706)
There is a Maemo-Leste lecture announced for OpenFest in Bulgaria next week... Will try to be there. :)

There is indeed (parazyd and I will give the talk), and it might actually be largest Maemo Leste team gathering so far (3 people). Please do come and say hi before or after the talk.

DeniE46 2018-10-30 07:02

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzup_ (Post 1549782)
There is indeed (parazyd and I will give the talk), and it might actually be largest Maemo Leste team gathering so far (3 people). Please do come and say hi before or after the talk.

Greeting from a new member of this awesome community! Been reading for quite some time about this project and it really got me hooked! As i'd like to visit you guys on this lecture, could you provide some more info about it, tickets if necessary, location, etc. AFAIK, it will be located in Sofia Tech Park so me living near Sofia would be easy to find it. Big thanks!

Bundyo 2018-10-30 13:05

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
https://www.openfest.org/2018/bg/full-schedule-bg/

14:30 on Sunday (second day)

zxcvbnm3230 2018-10-30 22:23

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1549706)
There is a Maemo-Leste lecture announced for OpenFest in Bulgaria next week... Will try to be there. :)

Will they record it on video?

Boemien 2018-10-31 10:09

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Hi everyone, I have a question. (I will have many silly questions, so buckle up)
It's been quite some days that I started testing Maemo Leste... Does someone know how to take screenshots ?

And I have another question half-related to maemo leste and WPA2 Entreprise. The mobile is connecting fine to internet, but I can't do it back in Maemo (freemanlte) when it comes to WPA2 entreprise (eduroam style).

I know it has been mentionned here and there on the forum without some good solutions but I was wondering if I could ask here... so the question is : Is there a way to copy-paste the config files, or the WPA_Supplicant config file from leste to freemantle ?

So...yeah, I am still playing with it, I'm a big noob so there is no many things to do with it for now....(I almost forgot everything linux, I had to do a google search just to remember how to do a simple apt-get update). I'm still figuring out how to install and use some apps, but for now, thank you for your hard work!

Sorry I didn't use my awesome translator today :D , so sorry for my english!!

sicelo 2018-10-31 10:41

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Maemo Leste already supports WPA2 Enterprise properly (because it uses wpa_supplicant backend). You do not need any config file on Leste.

On Fremantle, some have been able to connect to eduroam by carefully entering the options, e.g. make sure that the "Manual username" field is filled.

I don't have eduroam where I am, but the N900 can't connect to our WPA2 Enterprise network. So I use wpa_supplicant, which works beautifully. As a result, I do have a config, but you also need to remember that WPA2 Enterprise is just an 'umbrella' designation - there are various ways that the network can be configured, e.g. PEAP, TTLS, TLS, etc. So you would need to figure that out first, before you can write an appropriate config

Simplest way ... look at how Android/Windows saves the connection :)

Boemien 2018-10-31 11:08

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sicelo (Post 1549837)
Maemo Leste already supports WPA2 Enterprise properly (because it uses wpa_supplicant backend). You do not need any config file on Leste.

On Fremantle, some have been able to connect to eduroam by carefully entering the options, e.g. make sure that the "Manual username" field is filled.

I don't have eduroam where I am, but the N900 can't connect to our WPA2 Enterprise network. So I use wpa_supplicant, which works beautifully. As a result, I do have a config, but you also need to remember that WPA2 Enterprise is just an 'umbrella' designation - there are various ways that the network can be configured, e.g. PEAP, TTLS, TLS, etc. So you would need to figure that out first, before you can write an appropriate config

Simplest way ... look at how Android/Windows saves the connection :)

Thank you for your quick reply. Yeah like I said, I have no problem with Maemo leste connecting to the Wifi...I was just wondering if one could just copy paste the config file from Leste to fremantle..I know it sounds simple...I'm a simple man :D But don't worry, that's not the subject!! (But thanks again for your answer)

I mostly wanted to know how I can take screenshots from the mobile.

And regarding the apps from the repository, The only one I was able to install was conky, but I had no icon in the menu, and the app did not open...

Finally, did someone think about Chroot ? I know it's not the aim of the topic, but I still have ubuntu chroot in the N900 and it works just fine, I was just wondering if it was possible with devuan too!!!

gerbick 2018-10-31 11:16

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvbnm3230 (Post 1549829)
Will they record it on video?

I fully support this as a request. Video record it please.

peterleinchen 2018-10-31 14:22

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Screenshots on fremantle / N900
can be achieved the simplest way:
CTRL-SHIFT-p
and look under MyDocs/.images/Screenshots/

No idea of Leste alreafy supports it but I would guess yes.

juiceme 2018-10-31 14:48

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1549844)
Screenshots on fremantle / N900
can be achieved the simplest way:
CTRL-SHIFT-p
and look under MyDocs/.images/Screenshots/

No idea of Leste alreafy supports it but I would guess yes.

I suppose you could try "dd if=/dev/fb0 of=~/capture.raw" or similar... :cool:

Bundyo 2018-10-31 16:19

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvbnm3230 (Post 1549829)
Will they record it on video?

Not sure, will check.

Wizzup_ 2018-11-01 13:16

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeniE46 (Post 1549803)
Greeting from a new member of this awesome community! Been reading for quite some time about this project and it really got me hooked! As i'd like to visit you guys on this lecture, could you provide some more info about it, tickets if necessary, location, etc. AFAIK, it will be located in Sofia Tech Park so me living near Sofia would be easy to find it. Big thanks!

There are no tickets required - you can just walk in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvbnm3230 (Post 1549829)
Will they record it on video?

Yes, they should.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1549835)
Hi everyone, I have a question. (I will have many silly questions, so buckle up)
It's been quite some days that I started testing Maemo Leste... Does someone know how to take screenshots ?

And I have another question half-related to maemo leste and WPA2 Entreprise. The mobile is connecting fine to internet, but I can't do it back in Maemo (freemanlte) when it comes to WPA2 entreprise (eduroam style).

I know it has been mentionned here and there on the forum without some good solutions but I was wondering if I could ask here... so the question is : Is there a way to copy-paste the config files, or the WPA_Supplicant config file from leste to freemantle ?

So...yeah, I am still playing with it, I'm a big noob so there is no many things to do with it for now....(I almost forgot everything linux, I had to do a google search just to remember how to do a simple apt-get update). I'm still figuring out how to install and use some apps, but for now, thank you for your hard work!

Sorry I didn't use my awesome translator today :D , so sorry for my english!!

We're going to roll out new n900 images really soon, you should give those new ones a try. They will have much nicer/better wifi (UI) than our old images.

apt install scrot allows you to takescreenshots using 'scrot' (command line tool)

Wizzup_ 2018-11-01 15:23

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1549844)
Screenshots on fremantle / N900
can be achieved the simplest way:
CTRL-SHIFT-p
and look under MyDocs/.images/Screenshots/

No idea of Leste alreafy supports it but I would guess yes.

By the way, yes, this also works in Leste.

qwazix 2018-11-04 17:33

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1543940)
If you have ubiboot installed then you're already halfway there. There is a new version ubiboot but it isn't required as Leste is booted without an initrd. The new ubiboot does however now include a nice Maemo Leste graphic and a few things preconfigured for it. That reminds me that I should send a pull request to juiceme to set a few more defaults for Leste (described below).

To get Leste running, you'll need to create a new partition (ext4 is fine). Then you can unpack the .tar.gz dist for the N9 to that partition and configure ubiboot.conf to use it. Assuming you'll use slot 5:I'll write up a guide on the wiki once I've sent that patch to juiceme but in the meantime the above should get you going.

As I already mentioned, Hildon is broken on the N950 so I suspect it might be broken on the N9 too. So don't expect wonders, but USB networking works so that will give you complete access to the Devuan-like system to play around with.

Yep, it works and yep hildon is broken but I couldn't get it to connect via usb with my bionic desktop.

This is a dream come true however, modern linux on handhelds, way to go.

Btw have you managed to run firefox? I think I saw a screenshot somewhere in the thread (I did apt install iceweasel but firefox crashes just after launch.)

Bundyo 2018-11-05 19:33

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvbnm3230 (Post 1549829)
Will they record it on video?

They had streaming, so there might be videos too. Until they are released - I've recorded the entire session, here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQAnvAWjqE

There is a blurry minute at the start, as I've switched to manual focus and the screen was too small from the distance I've placed it on :)

P.S. The "RAKIA - connecting people" t-shirts are a nice touch :D

HtheB 2018-11-05 20:54

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1550095)
They had streaming, so there might be videos too. Until they are released - I've recorded the entire session, here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQAnvAWjqE

There is a blurry minute at the start, as I've switched to manual focus and the screen was too small from the distance I've placed it on :)

P.S. The "RAKIA - connecting people" t-shirts are a nice touch :D

Link doesn't work for me :confused:

peterleinchen 2018-11-05 21:38

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
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Bundyo 2018-11-06 05:57

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Oops, sorry, forgot to make it public - should be okay now.

Wizzup_ 2018-11-06 18:16

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1550095)
They had streaming, so there might be videos too. Until they are released - I've recorded the entire session, here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQAnvAWjqE

There is a blurry minute at the start, as I've switched to manual focus and the screen was too small from the distance I've placed it on :)

P.S. The "RAKIA - connecting people" t-shirts are a nice touch :D

Thanks for making an additional recording - it's nice to have one available so soon.

There's now also a new status update, covering the changes from September and October (and a bit of November): https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...ober-2018.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1550030)
Btw have you managed to run firefox? I think I saw a screenshot somewhere in the thread (I did apt install iceweasel but firefox crashes just after launch.)

No, I think it crashes on start, I didn't yet try to figure out why. I think it used to work, though.

Android_808 2018-11-06 21:28

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Regarding the latest update, I'm guessing the Qt5 build no longer suffers from the issues we had with Fremantle needing to ship a seperate libX11.so.6 built with --with-xcb. It needed a seperate lib because xcb broke keyboard support with other apps. I guess it would be okay unless someone tries install a Fremantle closed source deb.

Also, as OMP was mentioned, in keeping with the more modern take on Qt, would it also be worth porting qt-components-hildon?

Wizzup_ 2018-11-11 22:24

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1550162)
Regarding the latest update, I'm guessing the Qt5 build no longer suffers from the issues we had with Fremantle needing to ship a seperate libX11.so.6 built with --with-xcb. It needed a seperate lib because xcb broke keyboard support with other apps. I guess it would be okay unless someone tries install a Fremantle closed source deb.

Also, as OMP was mentioned, in keeping with the more modern take on Qt, would it also be worth porting qt-components-hildon?

freemangordon should give the authorative answer here, but I haven't seen this issue so far.

I am assuming you mean: https://github.com/marx1an/qt-components-hildon - openmediaplayer doesn't seem to depend on it, though, right?

I haven't toyed with qt-component-hildon myself - but I assume it will make sense for someone to port them. It might not even be a long of work.

Android_808 2018-11-11 23:22

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
No OMP doesn't need it. It's used by cutenews, cuteradio and qml-browser.

I suggested it as there was a push for mobile devices to make use of qml and qtquick. On N900 though performance wasn't always that great iirc because of a driver issue.

Wizzup_ 2018-11-24 10:50

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
The openfest talk is now also uploaded in official form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1hwtEPt7o

Random screenshot of the day, initial compile-fixed bringup of hildon-application-manager (otherwise completely untested):

https://wizzup.org/raspi-ham.png


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