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great presentation.
Loved the shout-out for the n8x0's ...hahaha :D

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Yeah I really loved the presentation. I wish I had more skills to help you. I guess I will keep on stress testing the N900 :rolleyes:

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Very good slides and very well presented. Just bought more N900 hundreds in hope for Maemo Leste. If you need I could probably send you couple if it is of any help.

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I'm not very tech-savvy so maybe someone could explain me if the Maemo Leste on Nexus 5 is using the same method as Sailfish or Ubuntu? Is there some sort of MIR / libhybris or whatever they are named which bind the android blobs with the top layer and make things run on this hardware (If I understand things correctly that is). I had my Nexus 5 running Ubuntu but it is half backed, Jolla is running smooth but smacking Cyanogenmod 13 in the days of LineageOs 16 doesn't convince me but that's maybe my lack of knowledge. Not trying to point fingers at any of the mentioned OS and especially devs working on them. Just trying to understand everything with my small question/rant ;)

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No, mainline Linux kernel is used for Nexus 5, which has Freedreno support for 3D graphics, so there is no libhybris involved in Leste.

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Yup...
Helluva Guy..
Fred Reno ...
:D
Owes me $50 bucks

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November update: https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...mber-2018.html :) (and new website theme: thank you parazyd!)

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OK, then it is a bit better alternative than I actually thought! :)
Now I wonder would it be worthwhile to build SFOS on that base, skipping the adaptation libraries alltogether?
Are there some devices (sensors, radio, wlan, bt, ...) that are not working with Nexus5 mainline kernel?

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You see now why I am so keen on leste on nexus 5...eh juice?
Fred Reno rocks.
Great guy...
Owes me 50 bucks...

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gosh darn it! If only my N900 booted up properly so I could test it. welp!

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FYI

https://necunos.com/blog/necuno-solu...collaboration/

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NOW Necunos has my attention.
Lets hope they follow through.
I would be prepared to buy one if they do.

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Well I said
To where @endsormeans replied like
Which still does not answer my question... :(

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I don't understand how this is relevant?
I'm not familiar with these comedians.

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Hi everybody testing Leste (N900). Back again whit my questions :D
I noticed a small issue with the icons on the desktop when the phone boots.
So, as soon as the phone boots, when I click on the icons shortcuts (settings or terminal) the phone freezes. This happens only when it boots and the screen is idle. I noticed that going to the menu before and reverting back to the desktop seems to solve the issue.

So uhm yeah, that's it. Now my question is about Increasing the filesystem size as described here https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#I...ilesystem_size. I test Leste with a 4GB card, is there a way to increase the file system in another system than Linux ? Obviously I am on windows :D , I know I can use a Live distro to do it, but yeah, I just wanted to ask...we never know!!! If it's not possible, never mind, I will do it with linux. Is there a way to do it with maemo ?
What size do I need to specify if I want to enlarge to the max capacity of the card!?? (4GB)

Thanks in advance :cool: and have a good wknd!

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Special Lima/Mali update: https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...ima-works.html

(Also: we're on twitter now: https://twitter.com/maemoleste)

This is a known and unfortunate problem. It happens once or twice on boot, and not anymore after that (to be clear: just be patient, it will unfreeze). I'm sure we'll be able to fix it eventually, but it might take some time, and hasn't been a priority. In general, the performance isn't that great either.

There should be a script in /etc/ to resize the card. (At least in the latest image)

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Holy smokes! There is actually hope for a new maemo like experience with a decent price tag for the device. 2019 might be the Linux smartphone year ;)

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Very outlandish, but will this be ported to the ReadyFx?

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ReadyFx what?

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It is an attempt to create a phone with hardware keyboard. Discussion about it in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100554

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Readyfx??

Huh...

Well if that is the case ...
And there is a growing X-mas list of obscurities...

I want a port for the Mylo and the Vic 20, Santa...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...9575448309.jpg
(the moment of terror..)

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As long as device is supported by upstream linux, leste will just work. To the extend it works at all, ofc :)

I briefly read through the above thread and somehow was left with the impression that this device-to-be-someday will use android GPU drivers and libhybris. If that's the case (no FOSS GPU drivers or no GPU drivers that work with upstream kernel) then it doesn't really make sense to put leste on it, hildon-desktop rendering with 1-3 FPS is not something I would call a good user experience.

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I tried to get maemo leste running on a pcduino3b. Therefore I used the rootfs from the allwinner image and compiled the lime2-linux kernel from leste git.
But I get a boot loop caused by the watchdog. On the first look it seems that the xorg-server doesn't find a screen. Is there some possibility to deactivate the watchdog?

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I am assume you're using the right dts. Try booting with a mouse and monitor plugged in - you may be hitting this: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/204

What branch did you use for the lime2-linux kernel? The one we ship with our latest images is not using lima (lima also might require dts changes and some .config changes that are not yet online)

In short - are you trying to get lima to work as well?

We were planning to make lima images soon, but it (lima) is still a bit unstable, so it might not very usable/clever to do so.

This device? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/13707

EDIT: I would prefer to help debugging over IRC or over our mailing list (ML preferred), btw. I check both way more often than tmo. :)

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At the moment there is no lvds lcd with touch installed. I connected a usb mouse, usb keyboard and a hdmi monitor.

I need to figure out what is needed to make the hdmi as default screen. I guess I need to set it in the kernel and maybe in xorg.

But for a headless setup it would be nice to stop the rebooting behaviour.


I am using linux-4.18.y branch.


I would like to help to get it running. However I need to learn basic steps first like image creation and get a feeling for maemo-leste.
I also want to use the pcduino3b as my build maschine.:o
So I don't need gpu power right now, but for sure it is nice to have.


Ok I see.


Yes exactly.


I tried IRC but I have no talking power, so I will use ML in the future.

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Agreed. I will try to at least fix that mce problem soon.

This is just plain linux branch, without any of our patches. ;-)
You really need our .config too. Let me try to put this online soon.

The first step would be to mount the sd card/image, and do:

# mv /mnt/pcd/etc/init.d/dsme /mnt/pcd/etc/init.d/dsme_

Then the device will no longer reboot. From there you should already have network, ssh, and maybe a console on HDMI.

Please, join again. I thought there were no limitations in place anymore. Send me a message on IRC if you still can't write.

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Hey, is there a way to run it in tty-only mode, without xorg?

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One such way is right in the post above yours, viz.

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Oh, ok. It works, thanks.
Now, the question is: how to enable fn key combinations?

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 

December 2018 update!

Sorry for the delay...

https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...mber-2018.html

Silly answer: use xorg. hildon-input-method makes those work in X.

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Awesome progress! Especially after hearing of postmarket OS is somewhat stalled.

The day Maemo Leste will run somewhat well on Droid 4 will make very happy. I got it to try Sailfish with a keyboard, but the port is so far from usable I quit and put Android LineageOS on it.

How well Android runs? I could rant a long time. In short:
Battery runtime fluctuates between 5 and 40 hours in idle state.
Sometimes even keyboard input lags.
Spontaneous reboots,spontaneous loss of wifi functionality (but hotspot still works ...)

Your progress gives me hope for having great operating system, not limited by an ancient kernel, not by the 256MB ram of the N900 and not dependent on support for proprietary components.

Thank you for your admirable dedication and impressive work!

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postmarketOS is not stalled in any way. It may even be moving slightly faster than Leste because it has a larger team of developers/hackers working on it. See https://blog.postmarketos.org

That said, Leste is my number 1 choice without a doubt.

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I know that PostmarketOS has a larger team behind it, but especially the last blogpost on the site you linked invoked that idea:

This quote is followed by ideas to do that and by a list of devices where boot or hardware activation bugs were fixed. They use an N900 and made "a few usability improvement patches" which, if you click on the link, consist of changed wallpapers, twice, a shell replacement and improvements for running i3wm, which is not general user friendly in any way.

From my perspective it seems they are stuck in the playground and lost focus for their goals. If I got that wrong I am happy to be corrected.

The progress in Maemo Leste seems way more tangible and I applaud the small development team for that.

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I've just watched the FOSDEM Lightning Talk video which is now online. Great job. Congrats!

https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/eve..._leste_mobile/

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Aargh. N900 can't open the media. How annoying. Why to put it in such form or does some player on N900 play it?

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Try this one: https://video.fosdem.org/2019/H.2215...ste_mobile.mp4

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Nope. That didn't work either. I have the default player. Should I use something else instead? What is a better player? Or is it possible to try still some other format?

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Ok. Mplayer did it. I installed also smplayer for it to be easier for me. Thanks once more wizzup.

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You can also use that option in ~/.mplayer/config file for performance:
and for fast play in the same file:
for more options, man mplayer in web search