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pichlo 2018-09-13 12:06

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Thanks, Fellfrosch.

.qmf, who would have thunk? What's qmf anyway? I looked under .cache, .config, .local, even .mozilla. Never occurred to me to look under .qmf.

You may be pleased to know that I located the "offending" emails and... they indeed do contain duplicate "From:" headers. To be fair, I do not know whether this is a regression or whether it has always been like that. It is not a use case I follow very often.

EDIT: reported in TJC.

Fellfrosch 2018-09-13 13:10

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
QMF:
Qt Messaging Framework

source: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email

aspergerguy 2018-09-13 13:13

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1548274)
My biggest problem seems to be that i have no authorization to move files to /opt/alien/system/priv-app

Presumably placed in home/nemo/downloads and this doesn't work for example?
HTML Code:

mv /home/nemo/Downloads/GmsCore.apk /opt/alien/system/priv-app/

pichlo 2018-09-13 13:51

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1548406)
Presumably placed in home/nemo/downloads and this doesn't work for example?
HTML Code:

mv /home/nemo/Downloads/GmsCore.apk /opt/alien/system/priv-app/

Don't you need a devel-su thown in there somewhere? :D

peterleinchen 2018-09-13 16:24

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1548209)
Where are sent emails stored on the device?

...

Hence my question, where are the sent emails stored on the device, in their raw form? The obvious places did not yield anything useful.

Sorry for not answering with .qmf/mail earlier but above mislead me and I thought you know about storage location in SFOS. :p

reinob 2018-09-14 19:56

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by claustn (Post 1548122)
Jolla 1 instead, using the update in settings, was locked with the full white progress bar and I had to remove the battery. After a reboot everything works excpet the virtual keyboard, it does not appear at all!

I updated my Jolla 1 yesterday. I actually left it updating when leaving for work, when I came back it the progress bar was at 100% but it was locked up. Like you, I removed the battery, booted again, and everything was fine.

Unlike you, the VKB seems to work fine (have done minimal testing though..)

claustn 2018-09-15 08:23

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
The problem was OKBoard, deactivated and the keyboard works fine.

mscion 2018-09-15 11:38

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Back in June I was unable to update to Mouhjoki on either Jolla1 or Tablet. It was recommended, by karlos devel that I try a factory reset but I put it off. So as not to fall too far behind updates with Nurmonjoki released, I tried factory reset and it worked! The tablet required 3 or 4 updates to get to Nurmonjoki but Jolla1 required quite a few more as I was starting from the beginning. But, I didn't mind, at least this time, because it was like going back in time and seeing all the changes and improvements that had been made. Indeed, it was kind of fun to poke about after each update and I could really appreciate the tremendous effort Jolla had put into its development of Sailfish as it evolved fron the original version. I hope it continues as Jolla has made something very nice here.

peterleinchen 2018-09-16 12:40

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
What kind of bs is this:
Code:

[root@Sailfish nemo]# version --verify
/usr/bin/version: The '--verify' option has no effect now and will be complrtely removed in future

[root@Sailfish nemo]# version --help
Usage: /usr/bin/version [--dup]

With no option given it prints detailed information about current operating
system version.

Options:
--dup
Do system upgrade

Why remove this check functionality and do not spend a --simulate?


-- at least it went through fine
Code:

[root@Sailfish nemo]# version --dup
REFRESHING CACHE AND DOWNLOADING PACKAGES
Finished transaction (status=1, runtime=255149ms)
UPGRADING SYSTEM
Finished transaction (status=1, runtime=7074ms)
FINISHING

NO UPDATES FOUND. Try again later

but of course with the hanging status bar and need for manual reboot

Dave999 2018-09-16 12:56

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
I’m select download update and my xPhone is stuck in downloading update. Have a fast connection. Do you know if jolla have a really slow server? Like an hour to download the update or more?

How big is this update and when can I excpwct to be able to select install update?

I’m currently at 2.2.0.29 so it shouldn’t be several updates.

Only stable an no apps on the device. Totally clean!

peterleinchen 2018-09-16 12:59

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548091)
And the update also redefined the group permissions, so my ping stopped working again...

Same solution as after update to 2.2.0 Mouhijoki is needed;
Code:

devel-su usermod -a -G net_raw nemo

Problem here is that no group net_raw exists:
Code:

[root@Sailfish nemo]# groups
root video users ssu timed oneshot system bluetooth graphics input audio camera media mtp inet nemo

having nemo already added to net_raw
Code:

[root@Sailfish nemo]# groups nemo
nemo video users oneshot timed ssu system bluetooth graphics input audio camera media mtp inet net_raw

--another edit
Now it is working fine (probably another or more reboots were needed?):
Code:

[nemo@Sailfish ~]$ groups
nemo video users ssu timed oneshot system bluetooth graphics input audio camera media mtp inet net_raw


Dave999 2018-09-16 15:01

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1548541)
I’m select download update and my xPhone is stuck in downloading update. Have a fast connection. Do you know if jolla have a really slow server? Like an hour to download the update or more?

How big is this update and when can I excpwct to be able to select install update?

I’m currently at 2.2.0.29 so it shouldn’t be several updates.

Only stable an no apps on the device. Totally clean!

I just want to inform you that a reastart helped and that I’m now walk among the cool kids with 2.2.1.18 in the xPhone! Take care to next update.

carlosgonz 2018-09-16 18:30

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
yes i have too a xphone with sailfail, sailfail-browser is a TRASH browser same with webview, is hard to me understanding why still keeping a browser out of date. let's see what happens with sailfail-3. :mad:

thanks @pdelfes for: sailfail-os aka, @dave999 for: xphone.

pichlo 2018-09-16 19:56

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1548539)
What kind of bs is this:
Code:

[root@Sailfish nemo]# version --verify
/usr/bin/version: The '--verify' option has no effect now and will be complrtely removed in future


I am complrtely appalled with the spelling :eek:

catbus 2018-09-16 20:16

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
there is so much negation here nowadays...

peterleinchen 2018-09-16 21:14

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1548559)
I am complrtely appalled with the spelling :eek:

Soory my bad.
I just CA NOT get used to jsing a VKB keyboard. Especially the Jolla one.

There was a line break after copy/paste from termimal and I manually edited. This is not a bug! ;)

nieldk 2018-09-17 04:56

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1548547)
I just want to inform you that a reastart helped and that I’m now walk among the cool kids with 2.2.1.18 in the xPhone! Take care to next update.

Well, youre behind. Now the cool kids are on 2.2.1.19 😎

carlosgonz 2018-09-17 06:15

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1548563)
Well, youre behind. Now the cool kids are on 2.2.1.19 😎

thanks you @nieldk :)
2.2.1.19 - Nurmonjoki - 14 Sep 2018, big update! 138 packages

itdoesntmatt 2018-09-17 06:46

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
did you update manually?

carlosgonz 2018-09-17 06:48

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1548566)
did you update manually?

yes i did manually

itdoesntmatt 2018-09-17 06:52

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
any important change ?

carlosgonz 2018-09-17 07:05

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1548568)
any important change ?

i upgraded my xperia x success to 2.2.1.19, i think this is for fixing bugs introduced in nurmonjoki.

objectifnul 2018-09-17 14:22

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Weird. I would have expected 2.2.1.19 before Nurmonjoki came to public release.

Anyway, now many broken patches are OK.

Maybe I will upgrade my Xperia soon (only Jolla phone upgraded for now).

Edit - Done. Now both phones are displaying a permanent 2.2.1.18 upgrade alert although the installed release is 2.2.1.19.

After all, maybe I actually downgraded instead?

mscion 2018-09-18 08:29

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1548570)
i upgraded my xperia x success to 2.2.1.19, i think this is for fixing bugs introduced in nurmonjoki.

Is 2.2.1.19 early release? I am not getting update notification.

deutch1976 2018-09-18 08:39

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1548597)
Is 2.2.1.19 early release? I am not getting update notification.

According to https://together.jolla.com/question/...19-nurmonjoki/ i believe it is a Coderus unofficial update

juiceme 2018-09-18 09:09

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1548598)
According to https://together.jolla.com/question/...19-nurmonjoki/ i believe it is a Coderus unofficial update

Nope. the page by @coderus only lists the available versions, the update is not "Coderus unofficial update" :D:D

objectifnul 2018-09-18 10:38

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Anyway, updating to (I didn't write "upgrading") 2.2.1.19 looks like kind of downgrading for patch compatibility.

deutch1976 2018-09-18 10:46

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548603)
Nope. the page by @coderus only lists the available versions, the update is not "Coderus unofficial update" :D:D

Sorry. My mistake :p

pichlo 2018-09-19 19:28

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1548563)
Well, youre behind. Now the cool kids are on 2.2.1.19 😎

Not fair! Jolla dkes not consider me cool enough :(

pasko 2018-09-21 10:35

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Hi.
Has anybody felt the device a bit more 'lazy' in transitions after upgrading to Nurmonjoki in Xperia X?.
Even without patchs applied, when I switch weather forecast on and off in main screen it lags a bit... or when sliding from one screen to another...
Regards.

carlosgonz 2018-09-24 11:46

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
2.2.1.20 is out now. Becareful, unknown targeting. It seems that the sailfish is sailing hyper fast now to get SF3. :)

mariusmssj 2018-09-24 14:01

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1548822)
2.2.1.20 is out now. Becareful, unknown targeting. It seems that the sailfish is sailing hyper fast now to get SF3. :)

Well they had a call to finish string translations for 2.2.2 last week. Somehow I feel that we won't see SFOS3.0 until after the new years

juiceme 2018-09-24 17:22

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
What's in a version number, really?

Does it matter whether it be 3.0 or 2.2.2.0, it's just a string of numbers. It does not really signify what the features are, it is just something that some random people thought appropriate to tag a release.

There is nothing inherently magical about "3.0"

mscion 2018-09-24 17:29

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548838)
What's in a version number, really?

Does it matter whether it be 3.0 or 2.2.2.0, it's just a string of numbers. It does not really signify what the features are, it is just something that some random people thought appropriate to tag a release.

There is nothing inherently magical about "3.0"

You're right! But, 4.0, now that's something special!

carlosgonz 2018-09-24 17:51

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548838)
What's in a version number, really?

Does it matter whether it be 3.0 or 2.2.2.0, it's just a string of numbers. It does not really signify what the features are, it is just something that some random people thought appropriate to tag a release.

There is nothing inherently magical about "3.0"

i do not understanded :confused:

carlosgonz 2018-09-24 18:06

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548838)
What's in a version number, really?

Does it matter whether it be 3.0 or 2.2.2.0, it's just a string of numbers. It does not really signify what the features are, it is just something that some random people thought appropriate to tag a release.

There is nothing inherently magical about "3.0"

as far i know, the strings of number versión is capable to predict the amount of work or features or changes if used correctly, [major][minor][micro][A-B-C | 1-2-3]. so SF 3.0.0 it means a major-release.

olf 2018-09-24 18:49

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1548842)
[...] so SF 3.0.0 it means a huge-release.

No, not necessarily and not in Jolla's tradition:
SailfishOS 2.0.0 was primarily a bugfix and device enablement release compared to 1.1.9, IIRC. The features came in with the releases before that, especially 1.1.9.

rinigus 2018-09-24 18:56

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1548838)
What's in a version number, really?

Does it matter whether it be 3.0 or 2.2.2.0, it's just a string of numbers. It does not really signify what the features are, it is just something that some random people thought appropriate to tag a release.

There is nothing inherently magical about "3.0"

As far as I understood, SFOS 3.0 will bring us Qt 5.9. Some APIs will become official as well (don't remember whether anything on top of qtlocation).

carlosgonz 2018-09-24 19:41

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olf (Post 1548844)
No, not necessarily and not in Jolla's tradition:
SailfishOS 2.0.0 was primarily a bugfix and device enablement release compared to 1.1.9, IIRC. The features came in with the releases before that, especially 1.1.9.

yes i agree with @olf, but the features of 1.1.9 were of 2.0.0. it happened this way by the pressure of the community Sailfish and by the program of Short launches.
even parts of sf 3.0.0 already is introduced in 2.2.1. could happen the same with 2.2.2 and 1.1.9. so sf 3.0.0 could be introduced a major parts in 2.2.2. is slightly not correct in this way, but as i say before . . . at the end it is the same :D

pichlo 2018-09-24 21:00

Re: 2.2.1.18 Nurmonjoki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olf (Post 1548844)
No, not necessarily and not in Jolla's tradition:
SailfishOS 2.0.0 was primarily a bugfix and device enablement release compared to 1.1.9, IIRC. The features came in with the releases before that, especially 1.1.9.

That is not exactly how it happened. 2.0 brought a new UI. 1.1.9 was a 2.0 Early Release.

Regarding which one is more magical, 3.0 or 4.0...

I don't remember Snow White being visited by the queen 4 times, or Cinderella having to do 4 tasks, or Slavic village boys turned heroes killing 4-headed dragons. 3 is definitely the magic number.


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