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rinigus 2020-06-13 18:35

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Looks like we are having a success story with FP on XZ3. rpm had a wrong path in one of the service files, will fix that with the next update. stay tuned

rinigus 2020-06-14 11:10

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
The new version of FP for XZ3 is released. XZ2/XZ2c users don't have to do anything at this stage. XZ3 users would have to install fingerprint support as described in https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...rprint-support

Note that XZ3 requires droid-fake-crypt service which is packaged now in the default repo as well.

ljo 2020-06-14 18:54

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@rinigus, super, now it works perfectly after update and installation of droid-fake-crypt and an extra reboot.
Now I only need to stop touching the camera lens instead of the fingerprint reader. The position of the reader is basically where the xperia logo is on the XA2 (way down).
Cheers,
ljo

levone1 2020-07-14 14:55

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Curious - I read the info about camera issues in post 2, but wondering if any improvements in recent updates... Thanks

rinigus 2020-07-14 15:41

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1568294)
Curious - I read the info about camera issues in post 2, but wondering if any improvements in recent updates... Thanks

No, not yet. That would probably require AOSP10 based port first as the camera AOSP improvements are focused on that. As we don't have ports based on AOSP10 yet, it will have to wait...

levone1 2020-07-15 02:50

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1568295)
No, not yet. That would probably require AOSP10 based port first as the camera AOSP improvements are focused on that. As we don't have ports based on AOSP10 yet, it will have to wait...

Thanks for your work ... The XZ2C was yhe only phone I've had that I would almost prefer over my XC - except for the Sailfish support, so I went back to XC. If things develop further here, I may go back again.

mankir 2020-07-24 18:55

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
hi, can you tell me again how to disable fingerprint sensor please? cannot find the thread in jolla forum anymore...

rinigus 2020-07-24 19:18

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mankir (Post 1568396)
hi, can you tell me again how to disable fingerprint sensor please? cannot find the thread in jolla forum anymore...

Do you want to fully disable it or remove fingerprints?

To remove fingerprints, use sailfish-fpd-community-test app.

Fully disabling would require reverting https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...ee35472a3459b4 , probably adding to disabled_services would be sufficient.

maximilian1st 2020-08-17 11:22

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Can't find the XZ2C below 200€ for some reason. Why the appeal?

rinigus 2020-08-17 15:18

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1568796)
Can't find the XZ2C below 200€ for some reason. Why the appeal?

Small number of smaller and fast devices on the market?

levone1 2020-08-29 14:59

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Flashed today and working great on XZ2c... Thanks
I also pulled Aliendalvik files off my XA2, and alao working well. With a camera improvement, I'd have about the best phone setup I could ask for...

rinigus 2020-08-29 17:53

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
With OBS shutdown (assuming it happens), we will have to see how whole infrastructure will be setup for ports. Currently we are, pretty much, in unknown situation. Hopefully, we will figure something out.

maximilian1st 2020-09-08 08:18

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1568979)
Flashed today and working great on XZ2c... Thanks
I also pulled Aliendalvik files off my XA2, and alao working well. With a camera improvement, I'd have about the best phone setup I could ask for...

I made the jump and bought an XZ2c to replace my Xc (microphone problems). Just erased my question about copying AD from my XA2.

levone1 2020-10-13 15:08

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
In case anyone else is wondering, manual update to 3.4 works fine... (I factory-reset first, just to have a clean test...) @rinigus - one issue is that when I try to install fingerprint support, it compalins of missing dependency, (fpd-slave). fpd package, and devicelock-fpd install fine, but sensor won't sense finger when trying to add a print... Any ideas?

levone1 2020-10-13 21:15

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1569701)
@rinigus - one issue is that when I try to install fingerprint support, it compalins of missing dependency, (fpd-slave). fpd package, and devicelock-fpd install fine, but sensor won't sense finger when trying to add a print... Any ideas?

I guess I can probably find the fpd slave files in the firmware download zip. I'll check it out...

rinigus 2020-10-14 06:05

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@levone1, you updated to 3.4.x before I even had a chance to look into it. So, breakage is expected. Also, I expect that the issues with the port are reported only if the updates/flashes are done using released versions.

As usual with the ports, I am going to wait till the target for new SFOS release will be available at OBS. Only after that it makes sense to work on the update. Before that, I better focus on other projects.

levone1 2020-10-14 10:27

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1569705)
@levone1, you updated to 3.4.x before I even had a chance to look into it. So, breakage is expected. Also, I expect that the issues with the port are reported only if the updates/flashes are done using released versions.

As usual with the ports, I am going to wait till the target for new SFOS release will be available at OBS. Only after that it makes sense to work on the update. Before that, I better focus on other projects.

I knew that was the case, just wanted to mess around with better browser, (notably improved). I found a couple of broken pieces so far, but overall uaage is fine. Just wondered if there might be a quick file I could copy/paste to fix the fpd-slave thing... Thanks

pagis 2020-10-16 14:33

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1569705)
As usual with the ports, I am going to wait till the target for new SFOS release will be available at OBS. Only after that it makes sense to work on the update. Before that, I better focus on other projects.

is the Jolla OBS discussion going to delay target releases at OBS?

rinigus 2020-10-16 17:21

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1569737)
is the Jolla OBS discussion going to delay target releases at OBS?

No, not to my knowledge. They told on one of the meetings that all is as before until they figure out an alternative. When figured out, we are expected to be told 2-3 months in advance. So, I expect that SFOS 3.4.x.y will appear at OBS as well. It always takes a bit of time after release before OBS catches up.

maximilian1st 2020-11-01 09:58

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Thank you to all the smart brains behind this port. I just flashed an XZ2C that I used for a month to be sure it is working properly. The flashing ended with no failure and the system booted after unplugging the USB cable first off course.

Unfortunately for me an SMS came in as soon as the phone was booted into the newly flashed sailfish. I hope my speakers are not too badly damaged as it was a loud and cracking sound. They sound OK now with normal volume.

For some reason the phone had to be rebooted twice to log in to the Jolla store. I complained about a bad network connection but WIFI and Mobile internet were both working in the browser. The browser crashed but that is usual with this old version. Looking forward to the 3.4 port.

One can restore a backup from the 3.4 SailfishOS which is a big win as I could restore my Messages and some settings from an X Compact.

I hope someone will make a presage version of the French and English and Dutch keyboards because I had a read and am still not sure what to do or where to find the needed pieces to create such a keyboard with prediction. It certainly needs another good read.

The Jolla store is missing plenty of apps for some reason... Can't find the Noson app for example. The list of apps or new apps is very small as opposed to the huge list in the X Compact. Is that the price (free) to pay for a port instead of a Licensed (paid) phone? I had a look in my Jolla account and saw that I had all the official phones and a few more ported ones since the beginning of Jolla.

The Lighthouse app shows 0% CPU and a temperature of 29'000C.

Oh and by the way, where is the donate link for this port? ;-)

rinigus 2020-11-01 14:31

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Re speakers: yeah, it is not pleasant. I have had it once in a while (volume increased for some unknown reason, maybe accidental vol + pushing?) but have not yet seen any degradation on XZ2. So, should be OK

Re reboots: no comment, can't tell why

Re presage: English is there and available. French & Dutch - needs someone to make them

Re limited apps: strange, I have noson available. try to logout and login back. if it will not help, file an issue at the official forum

Re Lighthouse: I have 0%, but 27C. Could be Lighthouse bug as it works correctly in collectd/systemdatascope

levone1 2020-11-02 00:47

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1570005)
The Jolla store is missing plenty of apps for some reason... Can't find the Noson app for example. The list of apps or new apps is very small as opposed to the huge list in the X Compact. Is that the price (free) to pay for a port instead of a Licensed (paid) phone? I had a look in my Jolla account and saw that I had all the official phones and a few more ported ones since the beginning of Jolla.

Same for me - only about 30 apps total. I assumed also something to do with it being an unofficial port, since it never happened on my X or XA2..

rinigus 2020-11-02 06:45

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1570015)
Same for me - only about 30 apps total. I assumed also something to do with it being an unofficial port, since it never happened on my X or XA2..

Have you tried to logout/login from Jolla Store? If it doesn't help, please file an issue at official forum. Just don't forget to tell your specific device model. It could be Store bug or unregistered device model (we have 6 variants under Tama)

atlochowski 2020-11-02 08:01

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1570005)
I hope someone will make a presage version of the French and English and Dutch keyboards because I had a read and am still not sure what to do or where to find the needed pieces to create such a keyboard with prediction. It certainly needs another good read.

Just find French and Dutch text corpuses and ask martonmiklos for help with generating text prediction for this languages.

levone1 2020-11-02 15:54

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1570016)
Have you tried to logout/login from Jolla Store? If it doesn't help, please file an issue at official forum. Just don't forget to tell your specific device model. It could be Store bug or unregistered device model (we have 6 variants under Tama)

Reported..

pagis 2020-11-02 19:15

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1570016)
Have you tried to logout/login from Jolla Store? If it doesn't help, please file an issue at official forum. Just don't forget to tell your specific device model. It could be Store bug or unregistered device model (we have 6 variants under Tama)

on xz3 i have full access to store apps, excluding the restricted license ones.

rinigus 2020-11-02 19:32

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
For ports, we have to request official access to the store. Looks like it was not requested for this model, as I have to ask to check "ssu s" response from the owners. As you were the first users with that model, it was not registered.

Confusingly, it lets you access crippled store for some reason :(

maximilian1st 2020-11-03 11:54

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1570030)
Confusingly, it lets you access crippled store for some reason :(

During the first boot you can login with your Jolla account. I tried and it did not succeed and got a "network error" message in return. After setting the system to my liking I tried again to login with my username and it accepted it but with a limited offer in the Store. Thinking it might have been a bad installation issue I reset the phone and had the exact same behaviour upon retry.

On another subject I have to say that I really regret the camera on the Android system as the focus in Sailfish is not working. Even the licensed versions don't work properly. I can tell I had all the official Jolla phones and stopped at the XA2 Plus because I don't want a tablet in my pocket.

Do you guys go through the day because my phone battery drains at light speed which was not the case in Android. I sync mails and calendar manually. Could it have to do with my 4000 photos on an SDcard?

rinigus 2020-11-03 11:58

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Re battery: maybe it is indexing them? I can usually go 2 days (or just below it) without charging, mail sync once in 5-15 min (depending on account).

Re camera: there is hope to improve it when we switch to AOSP10. Before that, it is as bad as AOSP9 is. Perfectly reproduced.

Re Jolla Store: device type is not registered yet.

maximilian1st 2020-11-03 12:12

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
[QUOTE=rinigus;1570053]Re battery: maybe it is indexing them? I can usually go 2 days (or just below it) without charging, mail sync once in 5-15 min (depending on account).

Indexing it will be. There is no reason you could have more than a day and my phone wouldn't.

Re camera: there is hope to improve it when we switch to AOSP10. Before that, it is as bad as AOSP9 is. Perfectly reproduced.

On the positive note it can only get better ;-)

maximilian1st 2020-11-04 11:35

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Is there still a way to check which version of Android was installed on a flashed Sailfish device? I have a terrible doubt... :-(

rinigus 2020-11-04 11:35

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Access to the store was added by pketo for XZ2c single sim, please test.

rinigus 2020-11-04 11:37

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1570067)
Is there still a way to check which version of Android was installed on a flashed Sailfish device? I have a terrible doubt... :-(

Don't worry, as AOSP is overwritten by the included flash files. It is mainly blobs and firmware that is left, but if it works - all is fine

maximilian1st 2020-11-04 11:50

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1570068)
Access to the store was added by pketo for XZ2c single sim, please test.

Thank you so much \o/ Noson will be the first app I will install haha

JoOppen 2020-11-06 00:31

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
first of all: thank you rinigus for the great port!

SFOS is running fine on my XZ3 since 3 days. Today I updated to 3.4.0.34

And: I just encountered the issue you addressed on Github last year:

@rinigus rinigus commented Nov 3, 2019In Settings (Backup, Storage) and Camera app settings, local storage partitions are listed as if they are on extrenal sd card. Options like mounting and formatting are proposed in Settings/Storage.These partitions / disks should be blacklisted. Possibly, can be done via udev rules

is there anything I can do about?

BTW: the SDcard is mounted, but not shown in Sailfish file manager.

rinigus 2020-11-06 06:04

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoOppen (Post 1570084)
first of all: thank you rinigus for the great port!

SFOS is running fine on my XZ3 since 3 days. Today I updated to 3.4.0.34

And: I just encountered the issue you addressed on Github last year:

@rinigus rinigus commented Nov 3, 2019In Settings (Backup, Storage) and Camera app settings, local storage partitions are listed as if they are on extrenal sd card. Options like mounting and formatting are proposed in Settings/Storage.These partitions / disks should be blacklisted. Possibly, can be done via udev rules

is there anything I can do about?

BTW: the SDcard is mounted, but not shown in Sailfish file manager.

See https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=136

Same applies here

JoOppen 2020-11-06 07:05

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1570085)

Thank you for your fast response!

So I was too quick - was missing the new browser too badly.

Just consider myself as an alpha user. The good news is that everything appears to fine, except for:
  • the issue I found tonight
  • plus: I just found that the volume up/down button don't work anymore so I cannot change sound volume atm
  • and: camera apparently doesn't work

Maybe there will be fixes one day

So, thanks again !

lfc22 2020-11-12 17:26

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
rinigus, thank you for the port!

I recently purchased XZ2 (H8216) with the sole purpose of installing SFOS, and it came pre-loaded with Android 10.

Is there a path to installing SFOS with Android 10? All instructions I see here and on XDA refer to AOSP9 as seed (and Android 10 as a future possibility only if porting happens). Are there any safe instructions on how to downgrade back to Android 9 if that's the requirement?

aspergerguy 2020-11-12 17:49

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lfc22 (Post 1570161)
Are there any safe instructions on how to downgrade back to Android 9 if that's the requirement?

Albeit referencing XZ2 Compact all details should be found here, although some links maybe out of date. There is a new version of Xperifirm available as only installed it a few days ago:https://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...id-10-t4071111

Please ensure that device is functioning for network and camera under both Android 10 & 9 before installing Sailfish OS.

rinigus 2020-11-12 18:07

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Indeed, test the device first on Android. That way you would be sure that the bugs, if any, are coming from the port.

The last time I tried, I could flash SFOS directly from Android 10 install. This assuming that you also flash OEM AOSP9 too, as linked in README. However, I am not 100% sure it still works with the latest Android 10. I think Thaodan was reporting some issues with it. So, try to downgrade first.

Even if it doesn't work, you can still get back to fastboot mode and reflash device. Just stay calm, connect USB and if it is in reboot-after-reboot mode, hold VolUp while rebooting (or try to hit the correct moment).

Camera does suck, but the rest of the device is a joy to use. Hope is to get camera improved when AOSP10 base is supported.


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