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vaskas 2020-12-20 20:30
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
I've found a way to enable USB audio - https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/main/issues/94. Apparently it's not about mce - it's simply missing PulseAudio config pieces which are present, e.g. on a XA2.

aspergerguy 2021-01-01 19:23
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
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@rinigus

Just wanted to add my thanks for releasing 3.4.0.24 as had been waiting to apply coderus launcher combined patch to XZ3 to resize icons upon larger screen.

levone1 2021-02-18 15:56
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Just a note about readme on main page...
Fingerprint seems automatically installed as of 3.4. Might be worth a footnote.

rinigus 2021-03-12 18:21
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
This is to announce 4.0.1.48 Sailfish release for Sony Tama devices. Update is available via OTA and as flashable images (images uploaded right now).

Before updating read the release notes at https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...s/tag/4.0.1.48. Pay attention to the bugs that have been associated with the update and referred to in the release notes.

Work on the update was started by Thaodan which allowed me to continue from already good state.

Note that while I have tested final release for a day, it has not been tested extensively. So, as usual, for those who want to be on the safe side, wait bit longer and see if issues will start popping up in github repository or forum threads (TMO and XDA).

I have started the work on switching to AOSP10 and aarch64 base. It boots, WiFi, calls, cellular network, GPS, camera all work. With the calls, there is a huge echo and there is a host of other issues that need to be resolved before getting it out as a beta. I will try to tag the current issues with that port using hybris-10 label to make them accessible via https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...el%3Ahybris-10.

Plan is, after some testing as a beta release, that we will switch over to AOSP10/aarch64 and retire the current AOSP9/arm32 version. But that would require fixing the issues to ensure that we wouldn't loose daily driver quality of the port.

levone1 2021-03-13 12:23
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571189)
This is to announce 4.0.1.48 Sailfish release for Sony Tama devices. Update is available via OTA and as flashable images (images uploaded right now).

Before updating read the release notes at https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...s/tag/4.0.1.48. Pay attention to the bugs that have been associated with the update and referred to in the release notes.

Work on the update was started by Thaodan which allowed me to continue from already good state.

Note that while I have tested final release for a day, it has not been tested extensively. So, as usual, for those who want to be on the safe side, wait bit longer and see if issues will start popping up in github repository or forum threads (TMO and XDA).

I have started the work on switching to AOSP10 and aarch64 base. It boots, WiFi, calls, cellular network, GPS, camera all work. With the calls, there is a huge echo and there is a host of other issues that need to be resolved before getting it out as a beta. I will try to tag the current issues with that port using hybris-10 label to make them accessible via https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...el%3Ahybris-10.

Plan is, after some testing as a beta release, that we will switch over to AOSP10/aarch64 and retire the current AOSP9/arm32 version. But that would require fixing the issues to ensure that we wouldn't loose daily driver quality of the port.
Thanks - I saw the update as soon as released, and using it all day yesterday. Everything's good as far as I can tell. Thanks

levone1 2021-03-23 17:34
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@rinigus - any ideas about this https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=130 ?

rinigus 2021-03-23 18:24
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571307)
replied over there

levone1 2021-05-13 18:29
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@rinigus - just curious ... With 4.1 released, do you think you'll update with current sources, or wait until transition to 10 is complete?

rinigus 2021-05-14 06:41
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Good question! I'll try to reply tonight properly. In short, don't know yet

JoOppen 2021-05-14 15:55
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571765)
Good question! I'll try to reply tonight properly. In short, don't know yet
I am realy looking forward to your next port! I wouldn't even mind (o.k. only a little bit) if jumping to arch64 means that I cannot update but have to flash the XZ3 anew.

rinigus 2021-05-14 16:03
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
At the end of February/start of March I started working on aarch64/AOSP10 port for Sony Tama devices. During that time port progressed decently, I wrote tbuilder to automate the build process as OBS doesn't work (yet?) for aarch64 and now even tested 4.1.0.23 update via OTA for that port from 4.0.1.

Current issues of that new port are listed at https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...el%3Ahybris-10 .

In addition, see https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main/issues/21 - so Flatpak will not work in HW accelerated manner. Which. Is. Annoying.

In couple of days, I will try to switch my primary device to it and then can test it better.

Camera is better, but don't expect miracles. Flash is still not synced with the camera and according to Sony AOSP developers they just couldn't fix it. So, that will stay (aka - don't use flash).

Another aspect is the small selection of software with aarch64 / SFOS. But that will change in time, I guess.

Coming back to your question, first longer term vision: I would like to keep only one port. Not to have AOSP9 and AOSP10 to maintain. I would prefer to switch to AOSP10 to get better camera. Rather odd when you can't get a snapshot of something and have to ask someone else for it.

In short term, let's see what my test will reveal. 4.1. is not available at OBS yet and it will probably take weeks before it will. So, we have some time to think and discuss.

Note that new port => new flash

JoOppen 2021-05-14 16:51
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Rinigus, that is great news! I closely followed the issues with hybris-10 and thus guessed that 4.1 will not be a simple OTA apdate. Infact, I appreciate your decision to go with aarch64 and leave the old ports behind.

For testing, I have an ugly XZ3 with burned-in screen and many marks over the body and display - but it is still running fine. So if you like me to do some testing, let me know. But please be aware that I am not a dev - I am not even able to compile and pack an image for flashing (unless I receive detailed instructions as how to do, maybe). I would, however, not mind risking to brick the phone (although I consider this very unlikely because so far recovering always worked).

levone1 2021-05-14 19:03
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571779)
At the end of February/start of March I started working on aarch64/AOSP10 port for Sony Tama devices. During that time port progressed decently, I wrote tbuilder to automate the build process as OBS doesn't work (yet?) for aarch64 and now even tested 4.1.0.23 update via OTA for that port from 4.0.1.

Current issues of that new port are listed at https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...el%3Ahybris-10 .

In addition, see https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main/issues/21 - so Flatpak will not work in HW accelerated manner. Which. Is. Annoying.

In couple of days, I will try to switch my primary device to it and then can test it better.

Camera is better, but don't expect miracles. Flash is still not synced with the camera and according to Sony AOSP developers they just couldn't fix it. So, that will stay (aka - don't use flash).

Another aspect is the small selection of software with aarch64 / SFOS. But that will change in time, I guess.

Coming back to your question, first longer term vision: I would like to keep only one port. Not to have AOSP9 and AOSP10 to maintain. I would prefer to switch to AOSP10 to get better camera. Rather odd when you can't get a snapshot of something and have to ask someone else for it.

In short term, let's see what my test will reveal. 4.1. is not available at OBS yet and it will probably take weeks before it will. So, we have some time to think and discuss.

Note that new port => new flash
sorry - just a quick off-topic ... Do you have any insight into this - https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/stran...e-issue/6252/2 ?

JoOppen 2021-05-14 20:37
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571782)
sorry - just a quick off-topic ... Do you have any insight into this - https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/stran...e-issue/6252/2 ?
Could it be like this?

levone1 2021-05-14 21:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoOppen (Post 1571785)
Could it be like this?
Seems like it could be... But the issue was fixed and closed, so theoretically I should have the fix integrated into my installation, unless I messed up that file somehow ... going to search through source ...

rinigus 2021-05-15 04:38
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571787)
Seems like it could be... But the issue was fixed and closed, so theoretically I should have the fix integrated into my installation, unless I messed up that file somehow ... going to search through source ...
Check nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings that you have installed. For 4.0.1 it should 0.5.73.tama-1.9.1.jolla

rinigus 2021-05-15 08:44
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@JoOppen, re testing: yes, that would be good. I will try to generate few images for testing, let's see if I get enough time for it this weekend.

levone1 2021-05-15 11:33
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571788)
Check nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings that you have installed. For 4.0.1 it should 0.5.73.tama-1.9.1.jolla
checked ...

rinigus 2021-05-15 13:59
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
(please submit the logs using txt, not screenshots)

looks like you have correct settings plugin. Why would local storage show up as mounted partition, I don't know. Any apps or patches you installed in that timeframe? Which app did you use to see those partitions?

levone1 2021-05-15 14:53
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571791)
(please submit the logs using txt, not screenshots)

looks like you have correct settings plugin. Why would local storage show up as mounted partition, I don't know. Any apps or patches you installed in that timeframe? Which app did you use to see those partitions?
There's definitely lots of things I've done that could have caused it - I'm not thinking the rim/firmware is to blame. I jist wondered if anyone might have insight as to what to look into.
It pretty much shows up the same on any app, and in terminal 'ls' for both /media/sdcard and /run/media/nemo.
The strange thing is that all of those partitions are actually mounted there. If I umount, for example, then the entries go away, but then those partitions are inaccessible. I probably messed up something while messing around with mount command...

rinigus 2021-05-15 15:22
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571792)
There's definitely lots of things I've done that could have caused it - I'm not thinking the rim/firmware is to blame. I jist wondered if anyone might have insight as to what to look into.
It pretty much shows up the same on any app, and in terminal 'ls' for both /media/sdcard and /run/media/nemo.
The strange thing is that all of those partitions are actually mounted there. If I umount, for example, then the entries go away, but then those partitions are inaccessible. I probably messed up something while messing around with mount command...
Just make sure you don't write/format/change these partitions. Some of them may contain vital firmware or bootloader and you can probably brick (like really brick) the device.

As for what have caused it, I don't know.

lal 2021-05-17 15:35
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Does anyine know what good things or noticeable improvements could an aarch64 build actually bring to the device or user experience? Are we to expect massive improvement in performance of the device altogether?

rinigus 2021-05-17 15:59
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lal (Post 1571806)
Does anyine know what good things or noticeable improvements could an aarch64 build actually bring to the device or user experience? Are we to expect massive improvement in performance of the device altogether?
The update is 2-in-1: AOSP10 and aarch64. I guess (but never tested) that AOSP10/arm32 bit is possible. However, I am not aware of any port going that route.

AOSP10 should bring better camera experience. It is better from my limited testing, but maybe users can check that properly. Or at least see subjectively.

aarch64 would allow to use current Flatpak platforms. Unfortunately, I couldn't make it work with hybris properly. Got frustrated for a week and decided to move on. So, right now, hard to say much regarding advantages in practice.

Disadvantage: less apps available now.

levone1 2021-05-29 21:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1571793)
Just make sure you don't write/format/change these partitions. Some of them may contain vital firmware or bootloader and you can probably brick (like really brick) the device.

As for what have caused it, I don't know.
just thought you might be interested (see most recent exchange between me and olf in the comments) - https://openrepos.net/content/olf/mount-sdcard

olf 2021-05-30 00:22
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571939)
just thought you might be interested (see most recent exchange between me and olf in the comments) - https://openrepos.net/content/olf/mount-sdcard
Dear @levone1, @rinigus already has been pointed to this issue by an @-mention in mount-sdcard's issue #41 (pointing directly to the corresponding issue here, instead mount-sdcard in general).

But as neither you or I have something specific to ask or suggest yet, I think it is a bit premature to push for a reaction (to what question?).
And IMO this is the wrong place (again; as FSO is)!
From my experience and perspective it is solely getting on ones nerves, when people try to make their issues known in as many places as possible quickly.

And IMO, that you seem to have wrecked your SFOS installation somehow ultimately falls back on you: While mount-sdcard makes all these system partitions user accessible, it does not alter them. If you destroyed your SFOS installation leveraging mount-sdcard, you must have performed additional steps to write on them.

levone1 2021-05-30 01:20
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by olf (Post 1571941)
Dear @levone1, @rinigus already has been pointed to this issue by an @-mention in mount-sdcard's issue #41 (pointing directly to the corresponding issue, instead mount-sdcard in general).

But as neither you or I have something specific to ask or suggest yet, I think it is a bit premature to push for a reaction (to what question?).
And IMO this is the wrong place (again; as FSO is)!
From my experience and perspective it is solely getting on ones nerves, when people try to make their issues known in as many places as possible quickly.

And IMO, that you seem to have wrecked your SFOS installation somehow ultimately falls back on you: While mount-sdcard makes all these system partitions user accessible, it does not alter them. If you destroyed your SFOS installation leveraging mount-sdcard, you must have performed additional steps to write on them.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't post here looking for or demanding any explanation or answer to anything. I had asked rinigus about it before I knew what was happening, and I just thought he might be interested in seeing our interaction about it - I didn't know you already let him know. I didn't think I was trying tomake anything known in as many places as possible, or trying to put blame on anyone for anything. I'm just interested in these things, so trying ro make efforts to contribute. Also not sure whay Sailfish installation you think I destroyed. I've been using Sailfish for ay least a few years on 5 or 6 devices, and I'm constantly experimenting, modding, flashing and re-flashing, so I have no expectations or demands from anyone, and no blame to give. My current installation is just fine, and I haven't communicated anything negative about anything I've done or anyone else has done. Just trying to help...
I appreciate your work and input. I'm happy to keep the discussion on Github.

olf 2021-05-30 13:48
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1571943)
Sorry if I wasn't clear. [...] Just trying to help...
I appreciate your work and input. I'm happy to keep the discussion on Github.
O.K.
Then I am sincerely sorry for being harsh.

But please stay calm and provide others (in this case: me) with time to think, react and coordinate, so we can all carry on constructively working together.

olf 2021-06-02 23:40
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by olf (Post 1571941)
Dear @levone1, @rinigus already has been pointed to this issue by an @-mention in mount-sdcard's issue #41 [...].
mount-sdcard 1.8.0 handles the different (compared to all devices supported by Jolla) mapping of the device-internal, fixed mass storage on some community device adaptations (Xperia XZ[23]{c}, FxTec Proš etc.) well.

levone1 2021-06-10 01:33
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
@rinigus - I was chatting with someone on TG who is running this port on their XZ2c dual sim, and they're having battery-drain problems. They noticed that the phone never goes into sleep, even with no apps opem and the screen off, battery current level is always active. I don't have that issue. He's tried disabling services, and uninstalling apps, etc, but can't trace it.
Do you have any ideas to troubleshoot, or, are you on Telegram, (he doesn't have TMO account)?

rinigus 2021-06-10 17:05
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
I get battery draining once in a while (once in couple of weeks) and then just reboot. Haven't pinpointed it to anything specific either.

Had been very busy with other issues during the last few weeks, so couldn't even start testing aarch64/aosp10 port properly. Let's hope that it will improve.

Re TG - no, I don't have account there. IRC/Matrix SFOS channels can be used, but hard to say much regarding this issue.

levone1 2021-06-11 01:20
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1572050)
I get battery draining once in a while (once in couple of weeks) and then just reboot. Haven't pinpointed it to anything specific either.

Had been very busy with other issues during the last few weeks, so couldn't even start testing aarch64/aosp10 port properly. Let's hope that it will improve.

Re TG - no, I don't have account there. IRC/Matrix SFOS channels can be used, but hard to say much regarding this issue.
I noticed some tumbleweeds in Tama Github, but figured as much - you have a lot going...

JoOppen 2021-06-14 11:32
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1572050)
I get battery draining once in a while (once in couple of weeks) and then just reboot. Haven't pinpointed it to anything specific either.

Had been very busy with other issues during the last few weeks, so couldn't even start testing aarch64/aosp10 port properly. Let's hope that it will improve.

Re TG - no, I don't have account there. IRC/Matrix SFOS channels can be used, but hard to say much regarding this issue.
I have similar problems from time to time. Often it is related to some Android service "sdcard". Rebooting helps me as well

rinigus 2021-06-27 11:46
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
This is to announce the first release based on AOSP10 and using aarch64 for Sony Xperia Tama platform.

Release is based on 4.1.0.24 Sailfish and is using the latest AOSP10 as a base. I consider it alpha right now due to limited testing. Most of the testing was done on development device while fixing the port bugs. Now it is installed on my daily driver and I will be able to test it further.

This release has changed the base and switched to aarch64. As a result, you have to reflash it. In documentation, I wrote down the instructions for those who switch from AOSP9 based port.

The port was started in the end of February, including the development of TBuilder to automate the builds. There are still some rough corners, see issues labeled with hybris-10 tag in the issue tracker. While it is not using OBS, future OTA are supported (see documentation for details).

Compared to AOSP9, I couldn't make hardware acceleration work on Flatpak apps. So, right now, Flatpak support is not there. Not sure whether I can make it work.

I would like to invite others to test the release. For XZ3 device owners - please check whether your phone calls work as expected. I have reverted some changes introduced in AOSP10 to cancel echo during the phone calls (issue 125) and it worked fine on XZ2 and XZ2c. So, please pay attention and test it by calling others, check whether microphone levels are OK and whether there is any echo in the call. Please report back your findings.

I plan to maintain only one base. If AOSP10 will work fine, it will be used as a base for the port.

Release available at: https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-t...-aosp10-alpha1

See release notes and read the documentation before flashing.

levone1 2021-06-29 01:30
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Nice - thanks ... Been busy lately, but just read your post and going to flash today/tomorrow and report...

levone1 2021-07-01 14:18
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
So far, so good... Haven't come across any problems. Camera's not much improved, but whatever ...

Anyway, wonder if you can help with this - trying to install a dev package, and getting error

Code:
Fatal error: File './droid-hal-akari-devel-
0.0.6-202106251954.aarch64.rpm' not found o
n medium 'https://sailfishos-sony-tama.s3-w
ebsite.pl-waw.scw.cloud/SailfishOS-4.1.0.24
-aarch64
Any help? Thanks

rinigus 2021-07-01 15:59
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by levone1 (Post 1572195)
So far, so good... Haven't come across any problems. Camera's not much improved, but whatever ...

Anyway, wonder if you can help with this - trying to install a dev package, and getting error

Code:
Fatal error: File './droid-hal-akari-devel-
0.0.6-202106251954.aarch64.rpm' not found o
n medium 'https://sailfishos-sony-tama.s3-w
ebsite.pl-waw.scw.cloud/SailfishOS-4.1.0.24
-aarch64
Any help? Thanks
Sure, try to make `zypper ref`

Regarding camera, see observations at https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/main/issues/153 . In short, it looks to be stable (doesn't crash), focus is better in Advanced Camera. I also haven't seen this super ghosting that we had in AOSP9 videos.

rinigus 2021-07-13 17:49
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
New release is out based on AOSP10/aarch64. After testing and discussion on SFO, I am switching the port to AOSP10/aarch64 base and will continue releases on that base from now on.

While it is inconvenient to reflash the device and set it up again, I think a better camera does justify it. On my side, it will be just too much work to support multiple bases / ports, so I had to make a choice.

levone1 2021-07-30 14:41
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
I know it's OT, but jist wondering if you or anyone has any idea about this - https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=380

levone1 2021-08-20 15:23
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1572296)
New release is out based on AOSP10/aarch64. After testing and discussion on SFO, I am switching the port to AOSP10/aarch64 base and will continue releases on that base from now on.

While it is inconvenient to reflash the device and set it up again, I think a better camera does justify it. On my side, it will be just too much work to support multiple bases / ports, so I had to make a choice.
I read something on xda about oemv6 support wwith latest AOSP roms for XZ2c. Seems like it brings camera improvements ...

hagiz 2021-08-21 22:23
Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia Tama devices (XZ2, XZ2c, XZ3)
 
I'm so close to buying an xz2c because of this, but if I want to copy dalvik files for android support, do I need to also buy a (tall)supported phone in addition to the licence, just to get the files?

Haven't used sailfish since my Xperia X died two years ago, as I am dependent on a few select android apps in my daily life.


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