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Kalatti 2020-10-04 19:05

Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Hi, I don't have much hope, but I must give it a try. I need a firmware (preferably the most up-to-date original fw) to install it on my Neo FreeRunner.

I also look for applications or anything that can be installed on the phone, since nowadays it is difficult to find software for this mobile.

I really appreciate the help.

If anyone has some information it also helps me.

Thank you very much.

biketool 2020-10-04 19:34

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Which one?
There were several OSs.
MER, an old Android port, the one it shipped with(dont recall), and two or three others at a minimum.
FWIW it only does 2g and even that only actually received calls say 70% of the time.
I can look for the battery for mine, it should be in a desk drawer with the Neo Freerunner.
Edit:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download
Looks like nothing past 2009...
I really gave the Freerunner a good try before I bought a N900, it was never really a reliable daily use phone though. There was never a large developed app ecosystem available for the 1973 and freerunner,(phone, sms, gps-OSM, maybe email, terminal, old IMs, a clock, mp3, wifi, bluetooth but that all required terminal for pairing and settign up conf files and scripts) the Maemo repos were overflowing compared to the few dozen apps for most of the various openmoko OSs. I hope the Pinephone works out better for a daily user!
Edit 2:
I see our Joerg was the last guy to edit the moko front page in 2013!

Kalatti 2020-10-04 23:44

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biketool (Post 1569513)
Which one?
There were several OSs.
MER, an old Android port, the one it shipped with(dont recall), and two or three others at a minimum.
FWIW it only does 2g and even that only actually received calls say 70% of the time.
I can look for the battery for mine, it should be in a desk drawer with the Neo Freerunner.
Edit:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download
Looks like nothing past 2009...
I really gave the Freerunner a good try before I bought a N900, it was never really a reliable daily use phone though. There was never a large developed app ecosystem available for the 1973 and freerunner,(phone, sms, gps-OSM, maybe email, terminal, old IMs, a clock, mp3, wifi, bluetooth but that all required terminal for pairing and settign up conf files and scripts) the Maemo repos were overflowing compared to the few dozen apps for most of the various openmoko OSs. I hope the Pinephone works out better for a daily user!
Edit 2:
I see our Joerg was the last guy to edit the moko front page in 2013!

Thank you very much for your message! I didn't expect anyone to answer me.

I've been doing my research and my Neo FreeRunner has Android 1.5 Cupcake. I don't want that system on my OpenMoko!

I did not know that this mobile had so many operating systems:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions

I would like to have the official distribution that had the mobile pre-installed. I think it's OM. I would like to have the latest version (OM 2009). Where could I download it?

I love how it looks!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...smartphone.jpg

http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/c/c6/GTA02.gif

http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f2...oot_splash.jpg

Halftux 2020-10-05 09:45

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
The wiki link from biketool should have links to latest offical images.
I used qtmoko with the freerunner and I think the most popular was shr.

Kalatti 2020-10-05 17:39

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halftux (Post 1569520)
The wiki link from biketool should have links to latest offical images.
I used qtmoko with the freerunner and I think the most popular was shr.

@biketool

Thank you very much, I have found some more information for my purpose.

In this link I have found most of the important files:

https://downloads.openmoko.org/distr...NeoFreerunner/

The files are the following, but I'm not sure what they are for:

fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 (I think it is rootfs: root filesystem image)
fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz (I don't know what it is)
modules-2.6.28-stable.tgz (GSM firmware?)
qi-s3c2442-1.0.2 + gitr.udf (generic bootloader?)
u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1 + gitr.bin (old bootloader compatible with dualboot?)
uImage-2.6.28-stable + gitr.bin (kernel?)
uImage.bin (download link broken)

I am also missing NeoTool, which is the setup program. Do you have this file?

Thank you very much for your valuable help.

Halftux 2020-10-05 22:31

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
@Kalatti

The link is for the freerunner ok.

fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 (root filesystem image Om 2009)
fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz (same root file system in an archive)
modules-2.6.28-stable.tgz (kernel modules, included in the root filesystem)
qi-s3c2442-1.0.2 + gitr.udf (qi bootloader replacement for u-boot)
u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1 + gitr.bin (u-boot)
uImage-2.6.28-stable + gitr.bin (kernel)
uImage.bin (symbolic link to kernel)

How to flash

For a openmoko or N900 flasher, you could have a look here.

biketool 2020-10-06 15:47

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
I think it was QTmoko which had a OSM app. One function of that app was to share location and pin a map of another logged in user, we never had that functionality on the N900!

biketool 2020-10-06 16:37

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
I do not know which OS was installed stock if any, though I recall thinking one was the stock OS/firmware and it was pretty much a simple GSM phone dialer/answer and maybe did SMS nothing more as I recall.
The Freerunner saw almost no use after I got my N900 as it was a completely unreliable phone, but it got me by after I broke my last Zaurus.

Kalatti 2020-10-08 18:30

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halftux (Post 1569532)
@Kalatti

The link is for the freerunner ok.

fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 (root filesystem image Om 2009)
fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz (same root file system in an archive)
modules-2.6.28-stable.tgz (kernel modules, included in the root filesystem)
qi-s3c2442-1.0.2 + gitr.udf (qi bootloader replacement for u-boot)
u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1 + gitr.bin (u-boot)
uImage-2.6.28-stable + gitr.bin (kernel)
uImage.bin (symbolic link to kernel)

How to flash

For a openmoko or N900 flasher, you could have a look here.

Hello mate. I've done some research and what I need is the dfu-util tool, right?

I have found dfu-util for Windows and I am able to run it correctly "cd C:\dfu-util-0.9-win64" and then "dfu-util.exe".

Before testing your Debian ISO, I would like to test with Windows, since I don't know if I will be able to handle the Debian command line well and locate the installation files well.

I have read that these are the commands that I should use:

# Flash u-boot
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D /path/to/u-boot_image
# Flash the kernel
dfu-util -a kernel -R -D /path/to/uImage.bin
# Flash the rootfs
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D /path/to/rootfs.jffs2

The problem I have is: can I change the path of the files?

That is, if I have the installation files (system, kernel, etc.) saved in "C:\dfu-util-0.9-win64", what command should I use?

dfu-util -a qi -R -D C:\dfu-util-0.9-win64\qi.udfu?

(I want to install qi, not u-boot).

Halftux 2020-10-09 16:07

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalatti (Post 1569586)

That is, if I have the installation files (system, kernel, etc.) saved in "C:\dfu-util-0.9-win64", what command should I use?

dfu-util -a qi -R -D C:\dfu-util-0.9-win64\qi.udfu?

(I want to install qi, not u-boot).


Switch off you freerunner (if necessary) and start NOR uBoot by pressing AUX and Power-On at the same time and then start dfu-util

Code:

cd \dfu-util-0.9-win64
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.udfu


Kalatti 2020-10-09 16:47

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halftux (Post 1569608)
Switch off you freerunner (if necessary) and start NOR uBoot by pressing AUX and Power-On at the same time and then start dfu-util

Code:

cd \dfu-util-0.9-win64
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.udfu


With Windows I have not had luck (Windows does not recognize the mobile in NOR uBoot), I am going to try with your Debian ISO. I already have the USB ready with the ISO recorded.

The only question I have is which route to put in the commands. I don't know how to use the command line well.

I have renamed the files to make it easier, these are the commands I ran in Windows:

dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.udfu
dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D rootfs.jffs

I can write those three files to a different USB, but I don't know how to locate the USB on the command line.

What can I do?

Kalatti 2020-10-10 21:04

Re: Looking for a Firmware (also applications) for the OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halftux (Post 1569608)
Switch off you freerunner (if necessary) and start NOR uBoot by pressing AUX and Power-On at the same time and then start dfu-util

Code:

cd \dfu-util-0.9-win64
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.udfu


Hello mate. I have tried installing from your Debian ISO, but have not been successful.

I located the files on the command line (/lib/live/mount/medium/z/).

Then I ran the following command (with the mobile connected in NOR uBoot mode):

dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D /lib/live/mount/medium/z/qi.udfu

I did not succeed. The error is as follows:

Copyright 2005-2009 Weston Schmidt, Herald Welte and Openmoko Inc.
Copyright 2010-2014 Tormod Volden and Stefan Schmidt
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
Please report bugs to dfu-util@lists.gnumonks.org

dfu-util: Invalid DFU suffix signature
dfu-util: A valid DFU suffic will be required in a future dfu-util release!!!
dfu-util: No DFU capable USB device available


Is the error that the program does not recognize the mobile?

What can I do to solve the problem? I have tried two different cables and several ports on the computer.


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