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Well I finally broke down and order a N800 from Buy.com for $240. I honestly hadn't even heard of the device till i got a buy.com newsletter earlier this week and since then i've been browsing this forum and other sites like mad trying to figure out if it's something i really need (well, i guess we don't really "need" anything, just really really want:)). Either way, the information I found is fantastic and I was ecstatic to see theres such a large development community for the device. I have a Dell Axim x30 I bought 3 or 4 years ago and I could probably count on my two hands the number of days i've actually carried it with me, it simply can't do what i really want to. I can check my school email with it (IMAP), play games, listen to Windows Media and thats about it. IE Mobile royally sucks and can't display webpages to save its soul. I've also not been able to find any freeware mapping program, especially one that seems to work as intuitively as Meamo Mapper, with or without a GPS.

I'm going to try and survive that period of waiting for a new toy to ship, but once i get it i'm sure i'll be back here for more information. Until the, thanks for all the great information here.

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I am in the same boat. Only worse. I had a 770 and really enjoyed it, but wanted to upgrade, so I sold it.

In the interim, I built a new Linux PC which ate up some $$ so buying an n800 fell off the radar. Until... I accidentally stumbled on the $239 (too bad I missed the $222) deal on Buy.com.

Now my new Ubuntu PC can play nicely with my new n800 (of course I'll need XP to flash it) and my iPod can play with my XP box.

I ordered late Thursday. Pop me a PM, you can be my first video call. :)

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You don't need XP to flash the N800 (if that's what you meant - sorry if I misunderstood). Flashing from your Ubuntu box whould work perfectly (better actually, as you can select what pieces you want to flash, e.g. kernel only)

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Yeah i know the feeling. I've been wanting to build a new computer for a while but opposite of you, i keep buying little toys instead, its a vicious cycle. :eek:
My only concern is i'm not too familiar with Linux. My main desktop runs XP, my laptop dual boots XP and openSuse 10.2. I liked openSuse because it has a GUI for just about everything, getting used to all the command line stuff in linux has been my biggest challenge, although you can find directions on how to do just about anything on any distro on the web, which helps a ton. I also have another box running CentOS 5, it will be a server eventually but right now it's just doing DHCP and running VMWare server to host Win Server 2003 Enterprise (hooray for MSDNAA:D)

I havent even read up on how to do video calling yet so you'll have to help me out there.

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hey Maxinfilxion. i guess i can be considered a newb as well. i just got my 770 yesterday and honestly, i can't put it down. i really love the feel of it and it's speed is tolerable for me. never had a pda or anything like that, so getting used to the stylus was tricky but now i have the hang of it.

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How reliable is buy.com?

Iv heard some bad things about them and none good (except for this price) but that doesn't mean there there not good. i am looking to possibly buy a n800. would buy.com be a good place?

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Buy.com seems to have a dual personality. I've had decent success with them, others swear they are the spawn of the devil. Your mileage may vary.

Oh, and welcome to the new rat! We are growing in number! :D

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Well i've only bought a few things from Buy as did my roommate last year and we never had any problems. Last thing i got was a 4 gig flash drive for $28 with a $14 MIR, and the rebate actually processed fairly darn quick

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Buy.com is another one of those companies that gets a bad rep because its volume is so high it gets a lot more complaints than companies that sell hundreds of times less stuff. I got great service from Buy.com and would use them in a flash.

My friends are considering buying N800s now that the price has dropped so much. I paid $400, and it was well worth it back in January. But I think that Buy.com says that the "list price" is now $300, and of course it sells below that.

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People with problems are always many times louder than those without any. Anything i've looked into buying, from cars to electronics and everything in between this is usually the case. The few that are dissatisfied tend to be louder than the many satisfied.

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Right, and they congregate, as happens here, and some people assume their experience is the norm because they see a complaint thread filled with... complaints. ;)

Typically, manufacturers and retailers will settle for a 5% defect/return rate. Any less and they may be spending "too much" on inspections and oversight, any more and they spend too much on reverse logistics and possibly lost customers. A company won't stay in business long if they crank out, say, 15% defectives.

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LOLZ, thx.

And sorry brad81987, it looks like I completely changed the topic of this thread. :rolleyes:

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Hahaha, no problem. I'm very used to it, in fact I'm equally as guilty of doing it on my car forums. It's all in good fun :D

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welcome to the community :) it really is these communities around the device that make it what it is, and see the technolgy really come to life, internet tablet talk and a number of others are often featured on the N800 WOM World, which i help run, we're sponsored but like to think we're pretty independent in collecting and posting as much of the conversation around the N800 as we can, hope you enjoy :)

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Thanks. I believe communities like these make using anything more enjoyable. It's much easier to get help or other peoples opinions or just strait information. And although I value the opinion of professional reviewers, I find reviews and comments from everyday people you find on sites like this the most beneficial. I probably wouldn't have ordered an N800 had i not found this site, which was purely by accident.

I have to ask now: what's the significance of rats around here?

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When I had to get a hosting company for a website I do, EVERYWHERE I checked out had a terrible reputation on the internet.

No matter what company I picked, the internet was full of horror stories about them. I think the reason is exactly what you touched upon, that major hosting companies have so many sites that there will probably be hundreds or thousands of people who run into serious problems.

The internet was no use at all because it ruled out every company I checked.

In the end I just chose a company that was relatively long established and relatively cheap, and they've been generally okay so far.

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I work sales for a major national bank, and whenever someone brings up the 400 or so (all resolved) complaints we've had (out of literally hundreds of thousands of clients) w/ the Better Business Bureau, I usually just look at their email address then do a BBB search on their ISP. When they see THOUSANDS of complaints, it generally calms them.

No matter what you are shopping for, someone will have a complaint for every reputable vendor. Any vendor w/o complaints is probably not doing enough business to stay IN BUSINESS.

As far as this place goes, it certainly is great to see a thriving community that is so obviously using the product to it's fullest. Even if there seems to be some Apple propagandists trolling more often nowadays (are there Nokia trolls on Apple sites?)

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I think there are trolls and fanatics on every site. What's scary is when they don't realise what they are, and think they're expressing a genuinely balanced opinion.

It's great if someone says they prefer using their "insert product here", what seems weird and fanatical is when they say everyone else should too, and that one day everyone else will. It's verging on a religion.

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Eh, don't even get me started on trolls...........

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Hi,

I'm typing this on my brand new n800! I picked it up from buy.com for $230 plus $16 for a 2GB sd card. So far, it's the coolest thing since sliced bread.:D :D

Got a case logic hd case for it today, and I should get a screen protector soon - the
supplied one is already scratched up.

Spent the last hour adding radio streams (bbc radio 4, college radio, etc.).

Within hours of getting it, l had an xterm and ssh, can't see doing that on an itouch.

Meeker

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The only glitch so far, is that skype out seems flakey- the landline picked up,, but skype kept on giving me the ringing sound.

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Mine should be here today! I can't wait. I watch UPS tracking like a hawk when i have things on order.........

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I ordered my N800 last monday. Paid for 2 day shipping. Got the N800 and SD ram on wednesday and the NavKit on Thursday. (It appears that UPS can decide to reschedule your two-day delivery for one extra day whenever they just feel like it.)

Darn glad I ordered the N800. Was hesitant because I knew the new model was coming out soon. BUT the N810 adds nothing I want.

I haven't needed a hardware keyboard, and I like having the GPS in a separate bluetooth device. Not sure how the program/maps are going to work out with the new OS2008... but the GPS unit works with MaemoMapper also.


ANYWAY: You get yours today! You'll have a lot of fun with it.

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I sure will . Just finishing up my last class, my roommate just called and said the box is sitting on my desk :D.

I was a little worried about getting one so soon to a new model coming out, but the only reason i even considered the N800 was the buy.com price. I really didnt need to spend $250 but i sure wasn't going to spend more. Plus i agree- i don't see anything on the 810 that i think would be beneficial for me. I too like the idea of getting an external GPS, that way i can also use it with my laptop or Axim if need be. Anyways, ill probably be posting from my N800 in about an hour and a half :)

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Nicely put! My employees gave me mine for Boss' Day. BTW, I work alone.

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Hahaha, nice!

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Must make it tough when the employees take you out for happy hour. Hard to turn them (him) down. But then you can always blame that last beer on them. (yourSelf)

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First N800 post. Just updated the firmware, now to get some applications

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Cool and congratulations! Now, you'll have another upgrade to OS2008 soon! Please continue to post your experience as folks like me are watching and learning.

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I just got back from a meeting at school, spent most of the time browsing on this thing. i think i'm heaven, i love this thing

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Did you post the message with the N800? :)

So, you've updated to OS2007? Did it go as expected?

Do you have any additional memory installed in it besides the supplied 128MB card? How was the performance?

Thanks!

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Yeah, my last two were from the N800. I'm typing this one though since it's longer.

Update went fine. I was a little worried at first because it wouldn't connect (hold down home button and then power on) to do the update but apparently it's dependent on the battery state, i guess it really does have to be full. Aside from that it went fine, only took a few minutes.

All i have right now for memory is the 128 in the external slot. I have a 2 Gig ill be putting inside.

Performance isn't bad. Obviously it's no Core Duo like my laptop, but it works pretty good. Trying to browse two internet pages at once seems to slow it down though. I also had no problem getting onto my campus wifi when i was at my meeting, though that's just an open network with their own web based authentication server so it's simple enough. Also was able to connect to my school mail via IMAP with no problems. Got FM radio working, Gaim, Google Talk, installed a few other things. Still trying to figure out how to get more internet radio stations though.

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I also had no problem connecting to my cell phone. I was able to browse the Bluetooth public folder on my phone from the N800 and view pictures, except my Sammy A900 likes to ask permission to send every single file, which gets annoying.

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Thanks for the hands on experience posts! Is the USB cable only used for updates and connecting to your CPU?

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yes. The usb cable is just for transfering data to sd cards or doing firmware updates

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Instead of powering it on like that (pressing button combinations), it's way simpler to just plug in the charger cable. No buttons to press - if the USB cable is connected and the PC ready then plugging in the charger does the rest.

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I'll remember that for next time, thanks.

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I've noticed that it takes forever to connect if I'm booted in Vista. It connects immediately when using XP. Haven't tried Linux yet because I have FreeBSD loaded on my third boot partition at the moment.

ALSO -- Suggestion: If you are using the windows flash updater program... you can download the appropriate *.bin file and flash from the file without needing to download it while flashing. This has two benefits:

1. You can reflash in about 2 minutes if you want to reset it again after messing around.
2. It is MUCH safer since there is less chance of a power glitch or internet download failure while flashing. (And you can check the MD5 checksum if you wish before flashing.)

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NOTE: I'm looking at perhaps loading/flashing onto the internal 8Gb card I have and setting up dual boot. That way I can mess around as much as I want while leaving the "original" memory alone. PLUS as a side benefit it doesn't use a compressed file system like the "original". (And so it will be faster because the unit doesn't have to compress/decompress every file. I've read that it is a LOT faster when you do that. Like 40%-50%.)

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Wow, i might have to look into that when i get a bigger SD card. The 2 gig one i have split open on me somehow so im going to have to get a new one. I had a 1 gig one too so i put it in there for now, along with the included 128 in the external one.