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Another nice UI pic on Ari's blog:

http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2007/10/n...announced.html

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Nice :) Does anyone want to buy an N800 with a 2gb SD card for $225? Got some extra painted faceplates and its in perfect condition. (Good german screen protector installed on it, so zero scratches).

PM Me! Im serious!

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Mil, the "radical makeover" will be more software-based. That's where the most room (and potential) for improvement lies, as I'm sure you'll agree.

But your compliants have been mostly hardware oriented. You really have to have one in your hands to see where that focus might be a bit misguided. ;)

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There are some nice videos on http://www.maemoapps.com

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Texrat -

Support for h.264? Smooth flash video?

Does this really mean they got some sort of 2D acceleration going on? I will be so happy to purchase an N810 if that means we can scroll fast and smooth on web pages, as well as watch unconverted "iPod/iPhone" format videos.

I am very excited, and glad you told me to check on ITT instead of disappearing hehe.

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You're not seeing the entire OS.

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Hmmm. How to answer... I'll just say that Nokia has promised to continually improve the video experience whereever possible.

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That site is returning an empty page.

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Since the announcement... it should be OK to reveal some more details... :D

Browser is based on MicroB (Firefox). No more Opera... as I told half year ago that Opera days are counted... ;)

Flash is improved such as youtube is actually watchable now. (I need to check Google videos...)

Overall the UI feels faster than old OS. Transparent desktop applets look nice. There are some animations made on opening/closing applications etc... Menus are made bigger so that it can be used with finger. (But I'm so used to use stylus that I haven't used fingers much.)

And of course all these new supported video formats work on N800 too... (Haven't tried H.264 yet.)

Battery life appear better, which is due to improved power saving features in the OS.

So the new OS brings new life to N800.

The downside: Most Bora applications do not install. They will need to be recompiled.

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When can we expect the new OS for the N800 ?

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Is handwriting recognition still supported? If so, has it been improved?

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Well, the N810 is due to retail by mid-November...

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Thank you Mara!
Do you know, if they fixed the mysterious video hardware error. (can't remember ... has something to do with the tearing effect ... or ... video playback) I hope you know, what I mean.

@zerojay
The page is working for me!

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O man, now I get it...or at least want to. I see now that what I really want is the 2008 OS! This is what Texrat has been hinting at! Now, for the moment, I do not plan to buy the N810 because I'm really happy with my current hardware (no need for the slider keyboard for me...I've just discovered the Apple BT and it works great!).

No, what I really want is this new OS! I'm hopeful that it will allow for more customization at the 'desktop' level. Can you confirm/deny this Texrat?

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O. I don't think I can wait. About...to...explode...

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Typical fanboy..... you really have no place here. Go and enjoy your iphone news on engadget!!

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If there is transparency and animations there must be some sort of graphics acceleration... I have a small dribble of drool that is eagerly awaiting official word of power vr support.

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Ironically, the page only works in IE and not Firefox.

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I'm using Firefox!!

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Dang this thread is growing like wildfire...

When I snagged this quote it was only 9 pages as I checked to see if it was posted...

By the time I got to the end it was up to 14!

^ that says it all to me :)

I can keep my N800 and try to cook the clock in order to keep up with the 810's marginal speed increase.
The real question on the new OS is if it now takes advantage of the on board accelerators. :eek:

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Uh, the removal of Opera from the new OS, does that mean simply no new versions will be available, or that the current one won't work no matter what? In some cases for sites I need to use the Opera version of the browser, and it would be a bummer if it didn't work at all. I'd be fine with no new development of it, but I would really like the current version to run.

Pics And Vids
 

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...5&postcount=25

hands on. size comparison..

and vids

http://www.maemoapps.com/

i'm in. think I'll get this over the meizu minione. this is disgustingly awesome.

sorry if the links have been posted.

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I do believe nokia has officially redeemed themself.

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Hahahahahaha!!:D

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Um, he's not trying to see whose is longer. His point probably lay in the fact that the iPhone is a trendy overpriced piece of crap and Apple is far from saintly. I won't hijack this thread but the iPod is designed so that you have to pull it out to show it off. And yes. 120 million sheep _can_ be wrong.

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I think that is excellent news.

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Can we keep the penis envy dialog out of a thread for a change?

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Back OT: It seems to me the N800 is still the work horse and the N810 really is a "con$umer device". I notice the mapping software is "upgradeable". This is a departure of sorts in that it comes pre-loaded with some finished (read commercial) software.

Nokia has redeemed themselves by providing a little something, something, for everyone.
The unfinished N800 continues to evolve and for on-board storage it is still king.

Meanwhile the mass appeal and target market of the N810 should provide many more software options that N800 users can enjoy, hack. and provide input in the development of.

My intention has always been for the N800 to be my "carputer" if iDEN BT connectivity comes as promised, I can provide my car with an IP for just the cost of a BT iDEN cell phone in the glove box.... with no online charges. (Slow as hell @ 2.6 Kbps but hey, my desktop can talk to it all night at that price. :) )

A slide out keyboard is not necessary for this set up so for me the N800 still rules.

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YoDude: My interest was never really in the included mapping software... I know people with boats and they've shelled out hundreds for topographical map sets, waterway map sets, etc... my question is, will MaemoMapper work with this...

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Just saw the price on engadget, 479, ouch. That is expensive. I think it's time for me to consider other alternative. I certainly don't like the placement of the dpad, but with the slide out keyboard, maybe it's not too bad. Don't like the camera placement either, I prefer the popout ones because you can turn it 180degree. This is not good for taking pictures. Resolution should be higher. But as far as looks goes, it's nice.

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I surprised no one has mentioned where the built-in microphone is now. See that microphone shaped divot between the home button and escape button? If that's the new location for it, then that means you might be able to hold this thing to your face to make voice-only calls (using the right speaker as the phone speaker). Maybe. Just a thought.

I'm actually disappointed by the built in 2GB memory. Why? Because my N800 already has that. And, with SDHC support, my N800 can do _BETTER_ than that with a 16GB card in my internal slot. That's right: the N810 doesn't give you better internal flash memory, it forces you to only have 2GB of internal flash memory (no more, no less). I think that's a bit of a let down.


Overall, the N810 seems to me to be a mixed bag. In order to do web surfing accurately, I have to slide out the keyboard (I heavily use the dpad for navigating in web pages). The stand is N800 style (a downside IMO, would have preferred a tilt screen). Still a barrel charger. No photo camera, just a chat camera. No possibility of 16GB in the internal card slot (only for the external card slot). No Bluetooth PAN support.

But, more memory, faster cpu, uniform thin formfactor (one of hte engaget galleries compares it to an iPhone, and it's basically close to the same thickness, just a little big bigger in length, I think), hardware keyboard with backlighting, looks like the GUI is improving, and the camera is no longer out on a little fragile (and, IMO, dorky) looking nub.

I'm pretty sure I'll be waiting for the WiMAX version, though.

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Engadget:

"-- it's just too bad the N810 keyboard disappoints us so. Sure, the keys are large, backlit, and far more tactile than on the E90, but the top row is jammed right up against the bottom of the screen, making typing really difficult without keeping your thumbs totally perpendicular to the keyboard. The N810 could really benefit from the room of a few millimeters more slide if you ask us.."

Any comments on this from those who have it/have used it? Texrat?

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It will once gnuite moves it to Chinook. Until then, it won't work. Same thing goes for an N800 upgraded to IT 2008.

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Nah, my comment wasn't toward you, You hadn't posted yet.

From what I'm hearing, Bora apps will have to be recompiled for the new OS. So what you have now pro'lly wont work. The fact that the SDK is out and developers already have a compatible device in hand hopefully means that the time between versions should be short. Not like the transition from the 770's OS to the N800's.

I would think that most indy developers will have compatible versions ready to go by the time the new OS ships (mid Novemberish) In fact Textrat had a Chinook Poll thread going on here somewhere that may give you a better idea on individual time frames.

Now the BIG question:
How long do we think it will be before Nokia provides a protective cover or case for this thing? Lol. :D

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I browse with my fingers. Sometimes by tapping the scrollbar, sometimes by panning. The stylus is there, but I try my best not to touch it... Anyway, you'd better start imagining another way to browse, fortunately or unfortunately. ;)

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wtf duud .... If you don't like the design .. then don't buy it. The only remarkable difference is the keyboard and the GPS. Let's say you get the N810 for 460 euros and you get the N800 for 269 euros. I'd say go for the N800 get a separate GPS for the saved cash. Also if you allready own the N800, don't sell it. Use the money for separate GPS unit.

Also BT foldable keyboards are sold cheap these days. I fear for nokia slider design. Correct me if I am wrong, bu I have never seen a nokia with solid slider. Allways something weird.

Besides that. The upcoming Chinook update gives us same features for N800 so why bother with the update.

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Yeah, the step up in Youtube in this release is quite substantial. To my eyes it looks something like 12-15fps range. It's kind of hard to tell, since Youtube videos even on a PC sometimes are somewhat choppy. However, it is definitely watchable.

Let's try Google Video... Yes, works. It's the same, or perhaps even slightly better than Youtube. "Which is nice", as Patrick Nice would say.

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Any money the e-mail client's still the same piece of s***e they shipped with the original 770?

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Lets confirm/Deny/Rebutt Some things

The processor is the same speed.
The n800 was underclocked to save bettery life . Now that they have improved os support, they can bump the clock speed back up to the original 400mhz without affecting battery life. That means your n800 should be running at 400mhz when you update to 2008.

Not Either OR
You dont have to buy an n810. And it looks like the n800 has already dropped to 250 and will probably drop to an even $200. If it supports all the same software but is cheaper and doesn't have a keyboard, what is the complaint!!!
This is not the same as the transition from 770 to 810. They will both support the same software.Moreover I think Nokia learned there lesson with this model, they want the software to be ported quickly, and that can only happen if there are developers with devices.

Way better case
so far all the reviews have stated the case is much better than the N800 case.

Keyboard is a big improvement
The n810 is actually thinner than the n800 even with the new keyboard.
The directional button had to be placed with the keyboard so that you can use it and the keyboard without straining your wrist. The only other option for nokia would be to have two buttons, one on the keyboard and one on the display.

As far as I am concerned this is a great device. And I am sure to go out and get an n800 now that they reasonably priced.

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I didn't get to use the keyboard really, unfortunately. I think this complaint may depend on finger size, but there should certainly be reasonable clearance...

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I had thought that my test N800 seemed peppier with the new OS... :D