Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The most shameful flaw in N810 is the lack of stereo bluetooth and bluetooth music controls. I say, Nokia made the flaw before in calling N91 an advanced music phone but leaving it until N91 8 GB to have those features. I still have the N91 lying around, nobody wanted to buy...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

flywheel energy storage - means the n800-fw will also stand up on one end due to the gyroscopic effect!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Only if you say what you are hehe'ing about to give people a clue

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Interestingly, Quim has (seemingly, I don't have the logs yet) confirmed that the N810W is not step 4 (there's egg on my face ;)).

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Step 3.5? But it has 4G wireless, and (presumably) 2G storage... :confused:

Cool to know!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Would be nice to see that Samsung solar cell tech where it can charge thru using the screen and solar cells behind it. Far out, but kinda neat to have out in the sun.

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Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Not only is the heat from direct sunlight not very healthy for LCD screens, but you're gonna need those solar cells plenty, after that same heat has destroyed your battery.

But wait, doesn't Samsung make replacement LCD screens and batteries? Because then it would make sense -- for Samsung.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

You know the world is gonna be alright as long as Karel is kvetching.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I don't dispute the fact that I'm an honorary member of the Grumpy Old Men Club, but you do have to admit that implementing a power collecting mechanism that helps destroying your power storage facility, is not the brightest (hah!) idea under the sun (and another one!).

Reminds me of Franquin's Guust Flater (Gaston La Gaffe) cartoon strip where Guust invents a solar-powered, battery-less flashlight; it only works in full sunlight...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I'm more concerned with what solar cells (which try to be absorptive) do to the LCD's daylight viewing characteristics. Transorptive? Think the difference from the N800 to the N810, only backwards...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

From my brief experience with the tablet so far I would like to see two different models. One based on the present sized screen and another more larger model around the size of a paperback book which can be thrown into a bag rather than a pocket.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I don't know if people missed this, but in the IRC meeting Quim was asked about the PIM stuff and this was the reply:

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I also can't see why it's up to Nokia to provide it; there's nothing closed about what people want from a PIM afaict (and if there are things, such a ways to hook into the Nokia PC software, then this is what they should be asking for). Simply improve the existing ones and there you go. Community effort.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

In the N900 series, I’d like to see the following:

* At least 1 FULL-SIZED SD card slot
* The same screen as the N810 (daylight-readable)
* The same (hardware) specs as the N800 (decent processor, memory, 2GB of flash is nice but not needed with an SD card slot).
* A rotating camera, with better quality (at least 3.0MP)
* USB-OTG support
* USB CHARGING: This is one thing that could make or break a sale for someone like me, who is usually near a computer, but not always near an outlet. For those whom are the opposite, a 120v to USB adapter could be included (I have a few).
* WiMax and a keyboard is not necessary, especially if it adds to the cost and thickness. Some people may want WiMax, but $50/month isn’t what I’d consider “affordable”.
* Maybe taking some inspiration from the Asus EEE would be nice, i.e. a color pallete that would give you some choice, or different hardware specs for a few different models.

I can’t really think of anything, but a price point of… between $200 and $350?

That would probably work.

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A lot easier said than done. People have been looking to adapt or recompile existing linux apps for years with limited uptake because of quirks and bugs. Nokia, in theory, wants the device to thrive and would have both manpower and money to produce/port a proper NIT PIM suite.

I would hope that one goal might be to do some "magic" and get HTML5/offline stuff working. This way a well designed/behaved web app could seamlessly work offline. It would make the most sense since web browsing is currently the NIT's strong suit.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Careful now Mr Grumpy, you might find that the future moves a bit slower when you just accept change (Moto's Solar LCD) :D

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Again, I don't dispute the premise that solar cells can be stacked under a LCD, but rather the consequences of users handling this: They're not going to stuff their solarcell-LCD phones in a dark closet, are they? They're going to put their phones on the car dashboard, aren't they? Just look up what heat does to a LiIon battery...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Who says the N900 will have Lithium batteries? Maybe these will do ;)

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Yeah, that's better.

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Yeah, I'm with you on that one...a super-slim 6" 1024x600 or so screened device would be great.

I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but the current devices are a bit too...in-between for me. Too small to work on them, but too big to easily carry them around everywhere. A <1cm thin bigger device coupled with Xournals direct PDF-annotating and a bigger screen would be exactly what I need for university ;)

Probably wishful thinking though...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Either add a lot of horsepower or drastically decrease the price. Reason? MID. A decent GPS chip would not be bad... I know, I know, price....

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Considering that the MIDs are way out of the price range of an internet tablet, I don't really see the issue.

Still, OMAP3 is a "lot of horsepower".

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The N900 should come with:

A puppy.
And world peace.
Oh, and, a coupon for 10 million dollars.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Fast forward-- quotes from some members after the next tablet comes out:

Karel: "It almost isn't as bad as I knew it would be."

GeneralAntilles: "I can't wait to see what the newbs post."

fanoush: "so much... power... must... resist..."

zerojay: "%^$&#@! Canadian code still isn't working for the N810."

IcelandDreams: "Speaking of Canada, is it compatible with my tin-can-and-string network?"

krisse: "cha-CHING! Time to start charging for Internet Tablet School!"

rcadden: "Great! Something else I won't have time to review!"

qwerty12: "wow, just seeing the specs added inches to my manhood!"

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Texrat: Feh'.


I feel so unloved right about now :p

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mullf: STILL no hard case. :-/

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Ya know, having seen the reports about the next OLPC/XO laptop being a dual screened job, it would be nice to see Nokia swing for the fences with something like that. Basically the same size as the N810 is now, but instead of the sliding keyboard, a folding one in the line of the Nokia E90.

Add an exterior display with buttons to control, or make it a swing and swivel set of screens so that one can view just one side at a time, or close it like a clamshell and that would be a neat alternative form factor.

Of course, such a design would need to have haptics. I would only expect those haptics to be smart though. For example, kick in when typing differently than when scrolling and not at all when just holding the device.

Throw in your requisited WiFi/BT/UWB/WiMax technologies, and maybe a dual battery setup and this is something that would be pretty neat, and defintiely paradigm changing.

Being that I've not really taken a look at the Maemo Linux/QTopic roadmap, I am not sure if this is something that can come soon, but it would be nice to see the N900 take a leap like that in terms of a hardware jump.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Looking at my ASUS EEE PC, I thought it could be really cool to have a big SSD (say 12Go) as the internal media instead of the so small 2Go.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

did anyone mention a roll-up display (colour oled of course!) already? with a smaller 2.5" vga external display for monitoring it. that way we get a 6" hires display but it's still pocketable.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

How do you know the next IT will be coming with Omap3? Any concrete info on this?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Read the thread, pay attention. This isn't exactly a giant logical leap. ;)

That came out significantly more sarcastic than I meant it to be. What I meant was that it's a pretty straightforward prediction based on a lot of simple and fairly obvious stuff—there's not a lot of uncertain logical leaps involved. I've explained my own reasoning a couple times now here and elsewhere, which is why I recommend reading the thread in entirety.

On an unrelated note, anybody else think we hit the ceiling of usefulness here 10 or 15 pages ago?<_<

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

For the N900, I'd fix the screen bandwidth issues and include a 3D accelerator so we could get nice, smooth effects in the OS. I'd also upgrade the CPU and RAM, but much of this could be accomplished with a new SoC. (The OMAP3530 looks really nice, especially with it's power saving automatic idle function.) Other than that, I'd keep that same general design as the N810. (Though with dual SD slots like in the N800.) On a side note, it would be nice if Nokia offered a USB On-the-Go cable with the device.

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Well, with the OMAP3, there's actually nothing to fix or add. ;) It'll work fine out-of-the-box (as it were) for Nokia. They just need to ship the right drivers and libraries.

The OMAP35xx series is a lower-production run higher ball-pitch version of the OMAP34xx series. We'll be getting the OMAP34xx (more specifically, almost certainly the OMAP3430). Of note, we already have the auto-idle with the N8x0. ;)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I would be happy with a scroll wheel in the side of the device and a built-in PIM suite that replaced the current "contacts" and sync'd with google apps/ evolution (GPE integrated into the current contacts would be great).

for a wish list:
more than 256MB of Flash storage. This stuff is cheap now and 256MB seem a bit lean.
More RAM.

For the Far out Gee Whiz:
Compiz...lol

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Not to cast a wet blanket over this, but I for one am not especially eager to see a model 900, though it is inevitable. It would be cool indeed, BUT... Given Nokia's track record with the 770/800, their apparent market strategy is to abandon older products to force consumers into expensive upgrades. All of us happy 800 owners might find themselves cast into the wilderness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of old software.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I have one thing to say to this sort of nonsense:

:rolleyes:

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Couldn't say it better myself, than krisse did here:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...5&postcount=60

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I have not seen my list in a single post, so I want to be sure the Nokia execs that set the priorities for the software can see this in one place.

Let me preface this by expressing my disappointment in Nokia on the N770/800/810.
They built in Google Talk with a nifty pop-out camera on my 800...and shopped for the noisiest cam they could find!
They added a Contacts app with no way to sync it with ANYTHING!
Same for the ToDo
And Dates
And Notes.
I see all over the ITT forums that the IT isnt a PIM. Of course it isnt. Nokia made sure of that by teasing us with half baked apps that end up being more trouble that they are worth. Why have the apps there at all???
They give it a nifty media player - and cripple its video playback?
They had a2pd support in OS2007 from what I have seen in the forums, but nothing but a hack they dont even help with for the updated OS2008??
It isnt a word processor, or any other office suite type device either. No it isn't, because someone who can make it a priority wont.
And it has HWR. It is the worst I have ever seen, so much so that most dont even use it!
Here is the bottom line for my rant. If Nokia management isn't going to make quality apps for PIM, cam, HWR, or office suite a priority, then dont waste our time on the N900 with the garbage that is part of the current OS. Same for hardware. If you wont put in a cam with a reasonable level of quality, then just dont put one in! A Corvette with a Harley motor sucks, and calling it a Corvette will never change that.

So, my list is this
A Quality PIM, or NOTHING for PIM features
A Quality cam, or NO CAM
Quality HWR, or NO HWR
Quality Office Suite, or NOTHING
You get the idea I hope....
Do it right, or dont do it at all!
The N900 with a rockin browser and an fm radio is what it seems you want to build, so fine, build that, but do it WELL!

I love the N800 I have, but the half-baked apps are an insult to all of us, and you developers are to be hailed as heros for putting up with the boneheads above you!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I haven't looked through all the pages. But if you said the prediction came from this thread itself, I won't be too optmistic yet.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

No, I'm saying the prediction comes from some very logical thinking, a few choice hints here and there and just plain keeping your eyes open. Like I said, read the thread, pay attention. . . .

Besides, what secret information do you have?

I ask again, what's everybody's fetish with bundled Nokia stuff? We know it's pretty much required to suck by design so why do people seem to want so much more of it? :/