Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

A much better camera (still and video) would be great in the next version. Something like the N95 camera or better. I would happily pay for that. My N800 is always in my pocket but my camera is usually at home.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Here goes:

- Upgraded cpu, memory and storage. Usually that will happen on new devices anyways.

- VGA out or TV- out. Just for running presentations or connect to an external display if needed.

- Two models: tablet and clamshell. Something like the "classic" and "fold" in Nokias mobile phones (6600 fold/slide)

- "page up/page down" buttons. I know Microsoft got a patent on that now :) But I'm missing hardware keys to scroll in the browser.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I think that the sim was not only the most popular suggestion, it was also the most unpopular suggestion.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

No, that's IMO the worst idea by far. It simply doesn't make an atom of sense to me to do that, and I haven't seen a single good argument for it.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Heres a good argument for it: making phone calls.


(watch him tell me I can already use Skpe and ignore I cannot use Skype outside of wifi range)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

It's too big and clumsy to be a nice phone. If you make it smaller and more phone-shaped it'll make a bad Internet Tablet. Most people have already got a phone already (at least one - the workplace may force another on you). When I look for a phone I look for a small nice phone. When I look for an Internet Tablet I look for the biggest screen size that I can still shove into my jacket pocket. Bad phone.

The reason most people ask for a sim card in the NIT is to use 3G. Except for the problem with US providers and anti-tether,lock-in contracts (which wouldn't make life easy for sim-NIT owners either, mind), those people tend to forget that the Way To Do It is to use your Bluetooth phone and tether the NIT. Then keep replacing the phone when better tech comes out, instead of replacing the NIT. I've gone through 3 phones in the period I've owned my N800, moving from GPRS to 3G and now to Turbo 3G along the way. Without having to replace my N800, and not having to buy yet _another_ carrier contract.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Why on earth would anyone want a sim card slot for 3G however not for making a phone call also ?

To me, they both go hand in hand. Thanks for reminding me that when I advocate phone call capability that I need to tell people that its for general 3G purposes also.

You would assume anyone would know that but you just proved to me that there are apparently folks out there that would like a sim card slot just for 3G and then another sim card for their cell phone.

Convergence takes care of that type of stuff where youre carrying around a camera, a cell phone, a video recorder, a garmin gps, etc., etc., etc.

THe N9XX needs a sim card slot and a better camera. Those are the missing pieces it needs to really take off and move away from its current limited, "niche device" status.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Arcturus: I also wished for a hardware scrolling key on my n810, and if you want one badly enough, there is something that you can try.

As for everyone else, this is my first post in this mega-thread, and I've finally decided to throw in my 2 cents about the upcoming N900. I am in favor of some sort of cellular internet connection capability built into the tablet. I know that it's possible to carry a phone as well, but that hurts the portability of the device. I want to carry my wallet in one pocket and my n900 in another, and still have the capability to access the internet virtually anywhere. I've never owned a cell-phone and have no plans to pick one up in the future, but if the n900 did have some kind of data connection, that might actually be enough to get me to sign up with a carrier. I don't care too much about super-fast downloads, just as long as I can get online.

I would also like the n900 to have the ability to provoke enormous discussion threads discussing its features... oh, wait, it already has that :)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

bah, get yourself some proper geek/cargo pants ;)

http://scottevest.com/v3_store/subin...s_shorts.shtml

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

If you don't have a phone, and don't need high speeds, you might try Boost prepaid, $20 every three months gets you all-you-can-eat (or all-you-can-suck-through-a-tiny-19.2kbps-straw) data. The phones aren't the tiniest in the world, so maybe they won't fit in your wallet, but if you use it only as a BT modem, you can use a belt holster, lanyard, or whatever.

And you're much less likely to find deals like that when you're constrained to a particular technology, and probably particular bands, as well.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

It's actually a better deal than that.* If you purchase your minutes through Boost's website or at certain brick-and-mortar retailers, you can "Re-Boost" at $10 every 90 days. Just be certain to disable the obnoxious and expensive walkie talkie option as soon as you activate your phone.

For me, $10 of credit every 90 days effectively provides unlimited text and voice, which money-wise seems a good deal. That I'm tarnishing my eternal soul by supporting a company with a marketing slogan as atrocious as Boost's is a matter I simply avoid dwelling upon.


* It's not quite as good as it used to be though. Boost recently began charging for incoming text messages.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

my laptop has a 3G card. i can use the laptop with the 3G card (when wifi/lan not available) but it also runs without the SIM card. The n900 could do the same, and everyone would be happy ;-) it would be optional

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I was thinking of going with Boost, actually, but finally went with T-mo. The allure of EDGE caught up to me.

Oddly enough, there were, for a while, 3 "best plans" in the US, depending what you were after; T-Mo with unlimited data (tethering allowed) for $6 on top of a $30 voice plan, Sprint's SERO with blazing fast unlimited data, and tethering readily sneakable for $30, IIRC, (and a contract), and Boost, for next to nothing, no contract, and unlimited, but slow, data. And each of the three uses a different, incompatible technology. That, in a nutshell, is the reason a single integrated radio is bad. (Cost and size, of course, is why having three radios is bad.)

An empty slot, with modules available for various networks, is a clean solution that fixes everything. The only reason not to implement it is lack of a really suitable standard for the cards. (Hint to Nokia, start working on one!)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

luso, no way.

These guys in this forum dont want anything added to the NXXX devices at all. They are more in favor of some government takeover of telco's and the mandatory distribution and use of wifi or wimax or something like that. Even inside the Grand Canyon they want wifi towers.

They have no middle ground. What I really think they want is for Nokia to drop the N8XX so they can have their little devices at home, just as they are, for years to come. Even as the world passes them by.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Which, of course, explains why we "most requested" the SIM slot. Pick a troll and stick to it!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Even an empty SIM slot binds a given tablet to a particular mobile phone standard, and that, combined with frequency support built into that tablet, limits the locations in which, and carriers with which, the tablet may be used.* Expanded frequency support lessens the problem, but increases costs, imposes restrictions, and extends the time the a new tablet design is held up in testing and regulatory approval.

Those costs, restrictions, and regulatory delays are all currently avoided by the tablet division, making it a more agile unit within the somewhat, well, glacial Nokia. As some posters here take up their sandwich boards and proclaim the immanent doom of the tablet line due to Nokia releasing new models too infrequently, it's jarring to watch others (or in some cases, the same person) effectively demand longer periods between releases.


* The tablet owner may still use Bluetooth to tether with the phone of his or her choice, of course, but then the owner has paid for hardware, software, development, and testing that provides no benefit.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I am perfectly happy with my tablet. The only thing I would like to see is improvement of existing hardware specs, faster CPU, more memory, 1024x600 resolution. BT and wifi is working great for me.

Did I mention a better GPS?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

faster cpu, DECENT GAMING CONTROLS!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

summoning karel ;)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Okay all is well.

I just typed up alater and sent it to Nokia Corporate. I addressed it to a "Mr. Rat"

I mentioned there is a damned near civil war here on this issue and that most people want the sim card. I know that this is a lie since probably only 30% here want a sim card.

I left Mr. Rat my cellphone number so I should here back soon.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I meant to type "letter". I sent Mr. Rat a letter.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Is there a way to edit your post after youve posted something to correct mistakes.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Click the little edit icon. Bottom right of post near Quote Icon.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Yeah. proper gaming controls. couldn't agree more. I wonder what that would actually entail though.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Just to clarify. My support of the sim slot extends to data only connections. As other people have said.

The NIT is too big for a phone,
voice plan cost
Numerous voice networks (there are less data networks)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Thanks. Now I can fix my typos.

btw, I sent my letter overnight delivery to "Mr. Rat" at Nokia so maybe I will hear something tommorrow when he reads it.

I'll be sure to let you guys know what I hear regarding the future direction of the N8XX series.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I'm sure you will continue to let us know all manner of random blather. Keep it coming, it's entertaining.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I prefer real software and OS updates than hardware upgrades. I have some of my thoughts in the following post :
http://foolideas.wordpress.com/2008/...ernet-tablets/

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The hardware section of the company is entirely separate from software, so it isn't really an either or proposition. . . .

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I believe it could be just a tiny bit smaller and work well as both. But of course I could use such a thing and have to admit I was wrong afterward...

You did what? To who? There's another rat at Nokia???

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

But then it competes with Nokia's other offerings in the n series space, or the upcoming s60 touch (first of which seems to be the 5800, which I understand it, is not an n series). Since those devices typically sell for quite a bit more, perhaps that wouldn't seem like the best move that Nokia could make for Nokia, if you know what I mean.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Yes and no. It doesn't compete directly with any S40 or S60 devices because the OS is different enough to create a unique experience.

And price has not been published for any future model(s), so it remains to be seen how they stack up against other N-series products, SIM or no SIM.

Finally, Nokia's OS future is at an interesting crossroads right now. We have maemo. We bought trolltech. We released Symbian to the open source gods. Anything can happen from here. ;)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Hmmmm. HMMM I say. Well, looking back, even to relatively recent history, say the n95 or n96; both of them debuted at a higher price than the n810 was first offered at. Are you perhaps insinuating that the next tablet will maybe be a bit more expensive?

In some cases, the price difference can be fairly significant, e.g. I think the n95-3 is currently close to $200 more than the n810 (feel free to correct my numbers). I'm struggling to believe that people would pay that much of a premium if the capabilities of the device were the same..

And indeed, now, or in the very near future, both of the OSs in question (maemo and s60) will be open source. Product convergence? I freely admit that I am not at all familiar with the inner workings of either OS, as in how different the experience is for the developer. I'm just sayin.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

No. But look at the N810-- offered for around $400 USD at first. At the same time I could buy some N-series phones for close to that... so not necessarily so big a difference.

I truly have no idea what if any product convergence between S60 and maemo could take place. Probably none. Maybe both become parts of the groundwork for an entirely new OS someday (note: that is entirely my speculation and I have no knowledge of any such plans or rumors).

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The N810 debuted at $479 (the N800 was $399 and the 770 was $359)

Oh, and it's Maemo, damnit.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The n96 debuts at $895 (without contract of course). The n95-3 at $699.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Those are not the only Nseries devices. And who pays list?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Where can we get a hold of this open-sourced Symbian OS and just how much of it is actually open-sourced?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Does Boost let you use their handset to share the web access to the tablet? Does the Sprint Everything plan let you do that? I think I saw a thread float by about that... might need to seek it out.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Um... maybe it's best if I just link you to a wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS