Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I have the opposite impression. I don't believe that's true at all, in fact. Many start out with headsets (I'm one of them), but eventually it's put away because it's too much of a hassle. I've just counted through about 40 people and one of them used a headset, nobody else did.


What you describe is actually the 3rd option, not a built-in sim card slot but some kind of adapter that could be replaced. I have never seen such a thing so I'm not going to argue for or against that at all. I'm certainly not willing to go into a discussion about that, what _I_ argued against was SIM card slot or not.

No, I didn't.
I most certainly did. The first of those phones were almost free. The second the same. The third one was about $90. It's just a case of doing this in a group. I have BTW always argued for simplistic, cheap phones with BT and 3G and nothing else, as a good companion to a NIT.

I'M NOT DISCUSSING BLOODY WWAN! Will you please stop trying to drag me into a discussion I didn't even enter. I VERY CLEARLY argued against a built-in SIM card, nothing else. Who's the condescending one here? YOU're the one building up a straw man argument here.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

@ John, I did not write that. It was mistakenly added in my post.

The topic concerns a future tablet.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Yeah, i have a BT headset and it sits in a drawer at home from some time now. If it was stereo and multipoint, i'll probably use it ('cause i listen to music quite often on the go), but now its just another complication. :)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

PCI-Express Mini-Card for HSPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS

And they're not the only maker of PCI-Express Mini-Cards. Nor is it a terribly new product (HP had one on the market at least 2 or 3 years ago).


What EXACTLY do you see as the difference between "whether or not you should have a WWAN built in to the NIT" and "whether or not you should have a SIM card slot built in to the NIT"?

The only sensical way you can differentiate them is if you're biased about WWAN technologies. Such as: "you should be able to use a WiMAX WWAN, but not an UMTS/HSPA WWAN". And that's an argument I'd love to hear.

We've got 4 WWAN choices: CDMA/EVDO, GSM/UMTS, WiMAX, and LTE ... with LTE not being deployed at all yet. Which of these WWANs do think should or shouldn't be available built in to the NIT? We know you're already against GSM/UMTS and LTE, because you're against the SIM card. What about CDMA/EVDO and WiMAX?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

GlobeTrotter/Option for example http://www.option.com/products/overview.shtml for example, also also see Linux 3G project.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

ah, so your here on the forum, not because you have one, but would want one if it had some kind of 3G connection and could do that phone thing?

openmoko.org is somewhere on the web, have fun ;)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

If you don't like the subject of this thread or where its leading to you're free to ignore it.

OpenMoko doesn't have 3G support.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Oops, too much time between official announcements. That always correlates with a rise in testosterone. :D

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I'm sure you could lower that and restore peace/order if you were to... oh... I don't know... give us a bloody hint atleast! :D What would happen if iTT imploded due to a lack of official news!? How would you feel if we all died in a tragic... a tragic... ehm.... forum fire! Yeah... :p

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Is that a personal observation or has this revelation permeated the PR core at NIT central yet? If not, perhaps, you could, at the very least, make them aware of the ..... climate and their underlaying dynamics, in the event that should they so desire, they could, maybe, rectify the situation.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Why don't we give it about 4 days?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Maemo Summit 2008? Well, I can...wait that long I guess....

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

All of my observations are personal, not official corporate views. See disclaimer below.

And as I have said here many, many times, I am constantly communicating issues raised here back to the mothership (and I'm not the only one, just the most visible). Believe it or not, my meager efforts have actually made some difference. I hope that continues to be the case.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

I wanna get in n900 supporting for arabic packet language

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

BTW, I'd like to see something like GNOME-Do on the NIT because this is a intuitive way to start an application (and do other tasks).

Thats one of those small things overlooked. If there are enough people requesting this, it might be added, because Nokia cannot have insight how many people are interested in this. I suggest you look around in Bugzilla for this specific feature (bug report) and if it isn't there, add it. :)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

well, someone can easily make a python or vala version of gnome do. It's not rocket science.

Anyway, can someone now summarize what seems to be the offering based on Aris comments?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

If we don't at least have a reasonable suspicion, I'd be shocked.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Anyone notice this slide (there were a couple more but I don't see them anywhere online) yet?.

Ignore the screen content for a moment and look at what's around it. Looks somewhere between the N800 and N810 in width, front-mounted webcam (presumably the HD camera is on the back as it should be), front facing speakers again (probably to make room for the HD camera and HSPA antenna), no menu/home/etc buttons (so there's got to be a QWERTY slider with them behind it).

I suppose it could be misdirection, but it's the best concrete info on the actual device design that we have seen so far.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

indeed, i took it for the N810w, but now that you have drawn attention to it, it seems the nokia logo and the Nxxx brandings have been swapped around.

could just be a product rendering tho, and not any kind of final design...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

They said that there are not actual devices yet, so that's more likely only a render...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

TV-Out with Nokia Video-Out Cable CA-75U included

please please

pritty please with christmas on top

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

The Fremantle kernel patch has interesting lines with "RX51_JACK_TVOUT"
But one thing is that the kernel allows it, and very different is we see this feature in the device out of the box.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Very interesting. It's worth noting that RX51 looks like a definite product ID. Possibly not destined for final production, but I'd guess it is, and it's definitely a step better than arbitrary non-model-associated defines.

Does anyone know if any other RX-nn models exist corresponding to non-production models? I seem to remember a page on hardware IDs in the old maemo.org wiki, but I searched and couldn't find it, so it looks like it may not have made the transition...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames

I've never seen a RX designation that didn't make it to release, so it's pretty safe to assume that the RX51 is the "N900".

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Hmm... after finals I'll have to dig into that stuff. Sounds good so far. :D

And I, for one, will henceforth speak of RX-51 rather than N900.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Maybe somebody said this before, but as I only recently started to use the WebDAV space my ISP offers me as part of my package, I'd love to see seemless WebDAV-integration with the file system, very much like it's done with Bluetooth and UPnP now.

It would be cool to set up a WebDAV-account via the system settings and have it accessible in every application's open/save and in the file manager.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

given that the ipod, iphone and variants have a relatively universal connector for A/V, it occurs to me that one of those on the tablet would give us access to the myriad 3rd party accessories around.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

not going to happen. apple allows the license of the plugin end, but attempt to implement the ipod/iphone end and your company will bet a carpetbombing of lawyers before you can finish the idea...

now if the rest of the industry could come up with a similar port and make it available for anyone to implement, things would be interesting...

dont forget, its more then audio and video out, its also input for media selection, and maybe even output for the database so that one can implement external screens showing the selection.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Nothing to stop the free software crowd from implementing it mind you (assuming they haven't reversed the two wires, just to be awkward)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

your talking about figuring out how the connector goes, and making available plans to make a connector converter based on usb and a/v out connectors?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

What a coincidence, new Nokia smartphones will also contain TV out. They're getting more and more like each other...

There is nothing universal about it. They're as proprietary as you can get, except than you may license them. For a very nice fee *ahem*.

Perhaps you can show us the IEEE number of this 'standard' you are speculating about. Right, it doesn't exist. USB, BlueTooth, FireWire. Those are standards. Also with their own licensing fee, btw. So not open standards.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

in other words, the ipod connector is whats called a "de-facto standard".

and yes, each time i read about some product or other that comes with a ipod dock or connection ability, i feel like going on a hulk rampage...

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Maybe once I'm no longer employed I can be enticed into strengthening certain hints... :D

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

So, you'll send extra "hee hees" to tablet users who PayPal you fifty bucks?

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

Hints with Clippy for Maemo!

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

LOL... no, I may be a *bit* more forthcoming about some old stuff for free. ;)

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

It's probably too late but let me add these for the record ( I already posted a long list before):

a) sensible ergonomics which on the n800 basically stinks, mainly buttons placement. While at it rethink the need for them, n800 has 12 hardware buttons, and 3 software ones on the desktop. iPhone has ONE (plus a power switch I believe) and their GUI works nicely, nokia's not so nicely.

b) accelerometer to sense the rotation and a desktop design able to switch from portrait and landscape mode.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

You may do some reality check in the other thread.

looks like RX-51 will have even less buttons than N810, the ones on the top will probably stay (zoom, full screen,..) the two remaining ones on the body will go or move to the keyboard. This is a guess from keyboard mapping in kernel, no defined F4,F5,F8 keys = menu, home , zoom - (?).
There is one :-)

BTW, let this thread die and continue in the RX-51 one if you want to discuss real RX-51 features.

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

must have

• TI OMAP 3440 core with working OpenGL drivers
• transflective screen (mandatory!)
• Similar or better battery life
• at least 512Mo ram
• Dual SD-card slots OR MORE
• NO INTERNAL FLASH : Provide more SD Card slots and a SDCARD with the OS embedded (I would like 3 slots : internal (for the OS), 2 externals)
• Communication extension slot (for some gsm modem using USB, or for GPS usb device)
• 2 mini usb OTG with charging capability through usb

cool to have :

• dual sceen with one on slider and one on top
• a little wider screen (viewable area of about the size of a physical n800

Re: What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
 

ability bind screen/keys blocking with stylus insertion to hole...
and unblocking when taking it off

and screen rotation built into system...