Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Heh... waiting on confirmation emails when your creative juices are flowing is indeed painful. ;)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

This migraine I have isn't helping. :(

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

well, I'm in the minority with everything I need, running off a small server with an arm core, just like our tablets ;)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Heh... you're definitely NOT the target audience. :p

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Still no word back from them?

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

for Jabber have a close look at ejabberd

this opensource server is written in erlang (the language developed by ericsson for running telecomms switches) and is super fast and super scalable.

that and erlang isn't that tough by all accounts.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Yeah, I've been looking at ejabberd also today. Looks alright... I'm considering it a second choice behind Openfire at this point.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Check yer PMs. ;)

Domain still not ready, though. I've seen it take from 20 minutes to a full day.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Got the message. Login works. Domain's no big deal.. it's not like we'll have everything set up in a day. ;)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Ironically, I set up an openfire server at home last night to use with the MSN and Yahoo transports :p I liked the idea of openfire because I'm a Java developer myself.

The one problem I did find, which is tablet related not openfire related, is that if I've got a proxy specified then my n800 won't connect to ANY jabber server (internal or external). This is a problem for me because I run a squid proxy at home (primarily to strip adverts).

The was a bug filed for this (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718) in 2006, which was reclassified as an enhancement (!!!) but nothing seems to have happened about it. I'm not sure how asking for the jabber client to work behind a system-wide proxy can be classed as an enhancement, but ...

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Getting it pre-installed may be a hurdle, but you could start with having a one-click .install icon/file on your site homepage (so that new users don't have to figure out the App Manager in order to sign up).

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Hm. So, you want Jabber, IMAP, and SIP in one package?

CommuniGate Pro does that, and has a 5 user free license (costs money after that), to get started with. www.communigate.com

Though ... I have to wonder ... if the core focus is Jabber and IMAP, why not just host it in "Google Apps for Your Domain"? Jabber via Google-Talk, IMAP via gmail.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Google Talk doesn't support the external IM gateways (most of the point of doing this to begin with), not all Gmail accounts are IMAP yet... but I don't want to rely on Google for stuff anyways. Kind of defeats the purpose, especially since there's nothing specific to the tablets.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

This sounds like a good idea. I am new to the NIT and liking it alot. My wife already wants one of her own. I have never used jabber and did not understand the crossover between protocols. It would be helpful for other new users to have a site with explanation and easy to use services. If you need some help let me know. I would like to participate in the community also.

Dave

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Ok, well, as I told zero it looks like I screwed up adding this to my 1and1 account. They don't look like they'll host jabber under that plan (I misunderstood the requirements). But at least I'm getting the domain registered and parked.

So, while I'm researching hosts, is anyone up for subletting their current hosts? I'd be more than willing to help you with cost if you could add 2 domains.

Either way, here's who I've found so far besides Dreamhost:

http://www.westhost.com/package-comp...ml?cid=goo-vps (not sure if they allow jabber)

http://itonix.com/internet/hosting.html (so far one of the best options)

http://www.vpslink.com/vps-hosting/ (they do allow jabber, and even use it themselves)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Oh zero! This How-to looks promising...

http://cyb.orgcyb.org/2007/09/11/twitter-googleapps/

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

My hosting account allows for unlimited domains. I do not know if Jabber would be an option though.

It is a deluxe linux plan thru godaddy. If this helps, I am down for the cause.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

I still need to learn more about it... although zerojay is probably the better one to assess the capabilities.

Oh, and jablet.net is now showing up... at least, via my ISP's DNS server. :D

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Yea i can see the default page through my corporate VPN also.

Dave

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

This article appears to indicate a GoDaddy-hosted site can handle it-- zero? Confirm or deny?

http://www.russellbeattie.com/blog/i-am-jabber-powered

Hmmm... someone else says you can use the coupon code 50CHEAP to knock off the setup fee at Dreamhost on month-to-month accounts...

Whoa... someone else says DREAMKITTEN knocks off $90 at Dreamhost... :eek:

Final Edit: ok, the second promo turned out to be true: I got a year's hosting with Dreamhost for $29!

So we're set. I didn't transfer domains yet because it's still too early. However, there's a temporary dreamhosters subdomain (ldug.dreamholders.com). Later, I'll work out the transfer from 1and1.

:)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

I have a virtual server with http://www.tektonic.net/unmanaged.html - from $15 p.m. to do whatever you want with it. If you're OK administering a *nix server (or I could help with that) it might be a viable option. Host asterisk, openfire, exim, cyrus etc... all in one place and you've got everything you want.

My server is used for commercial sites so I can't mess around with it too much, but I can play with things on my home server for testing.

As I said, I'd be willing to help with the admin/setup on a server like this. I've reasonable experience with asterisk and a decent understanfing of java app. servers (for openfire).

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Sorry guys. I took my kid out trick or treating and came home and crashed after a long day at work. I'm just getting caught up. ;)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Appreciate the offer. I'm not sure we'll need it anymore since Tex got the Dreamhost package, I'll let you know. Yeah, I can handle root.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Awesome, sir. What a deal. We also won't have to deal with running the Jabber server ourselves since I believe it's run by DH... so... we should be good to go. Only thing is that we'll have to add Jabber users manually, but that's not a big deal.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Thanks pixelseventy2.

I went ahead and got the dreamhost account. However, if you want to participate (and you are welcome), pm me with your actual name and the email address you want to use and I will set you up as an authorized user.

zerojay, same goes for you of course.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

The offer stands for anything I can help out with. While I probably won't use the service as I've got my own already what I need, I still want to help the community. Anything that can encourage people to migrate is a good thing.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

You both are setup, and will receive emails with the info. :)

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Looks like we'll have to wait for the domain to come through before we can create Jabber users, which is fine.

Sweet, SVN. Awesome.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Well, I have to keep jablet.net registered with 1and1 for 60 days. :( Man did I goof.

But-- technut tells me that just because 1and1 has to keep the registration doesn't mean they have to HOST it. So there's a bright spot. I've never done what we need to do here (move just the hosting) so if 1 of you two knows the procedure that will be great...

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Looking at the 1and1 admin, it looks like we can have the domain forward elsewhere through frame redirect or http redirect... still not ideal. Well, we could just register one of the previous domains we came up with instead.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Not sure how it works with dreamhost, but I have a domain with 1and1.co.uk. You should be able to set the name server records (I could) to point to the dreamhost server. If the dreamhost setup means that you're IP address is dedicated to your service, then that should be all you need to do. Otherwise dreamhost will have to set the host-header details on their side. But I expect the IP will be dedicated as I don't see how Jabber would work otherwise.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Sounds good to me. I'd say go ahead and do it.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

I'm not sure where in 1and1's control panel I do that, or how, but I'll give it a shot...

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

from the dreamhost admin:
"Note, even if you host a domain with us, if you registered it elsewhere, you must go there to renew or modify registration info."

from my 1and1 account, I can do:
choose domains
select the domain (checkbox) and choose dns from the top
edit "Name Server Settings"
change the IP address to the dreamhost address
optionally change the mail record (MX) to the dreamhost server.

this may need corresponding config on dreamhost's side though

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

as a side note, www.joker.com are really good for if you just want a domain name and no hosting. $12 year, with complete DNS control.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Ok, dreamhost's name servers are ns1.dreamhost.com, ns2 and ns3. I just set that up in 1and1 and it's updating. Once that's complete I'll see what I need to do on dreamhost's side...

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Cool. Alternatively, you could probably have kept with 1and1's name servers and just updated the entries, but either way will work.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

I couldn't see how to do that alternate method. The other was straight-forward.

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

The Adding Jabber Users option says it's for fully hosted domains only. :/

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

I'm confused. I see that pixelseventy2 managed to add himself. Hang on...

Yep, just added myself (texrat@jablet.dreamhosters.com). As soon as it's active I'll test it...

EDIT: I can login to my jablet account on my N810. :) However, I tried to IM pixel and see an error "contact is unauthorized". Trying to find a fix for that... oh nevermind, it just means he hasn't accepted me as a contact. Hmmm. How do I initiate that from the tablet?