Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

For those of you wondering the point of all this, it's to help reduce threads like this: http://internettablettalk.com/forums...ad.php?t=11095

;)

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Yes, God forbid the hundreds of us endure future castigation. :D

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Not to mention the millions of hours wasted reading the forum for email fixes when we could be reading the forum for other things, or chatting on jablet.net.....

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ROFL... stop! stop! I'm not ready to laugh that hard yet this morning.

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Its Friday everyone needs a laugh. especially while stuck at work.

Dave

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I'm working from my living room. :p

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LOL i am in my office, but it is attached to my bedroom... long commute...


Dave

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Am I the only one that has to get off his duff to get to work in the morning?!

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It will be your corporate DNS server which is caching. They must have a really high TTL (time to live) set on it. If it's not purged by monday, there's something seriously wrong.

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No :) so don't feel too bad

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Thanks for the info pixel.

Also, I have to physically go into work next week... a few days...

Oh, and FYI: I renamed the dreamhost account to "Linux Device Users Group". Better than the default of naming it after me. ;) Pixel, based on conversations with zero I am setting up LDUG as the "umbrella" org, and it will sponsor jablet as a service. I think that makes the most sense. I am also looking to set LDUG/jablet up as an actual nonprofit.

Oh, and in a related note: it turns out dreamhost is a carbon-neutral host! I like that. We need to put their tiny banner on the site's front page.

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Here's an idea for the home page and user's screen. sorry for the state of the pics.

first pic is an idea for the home screen. optimised for tablet viewing, with a really small header and a wide area for news, blurbs etc.. on the right a smaller area for things like server status, user stats (#online/offline etc...) etc..

second pic is a user's profile. mini blog in the main part, and on the right user status (online/offline), and links to things like del.icio.us and last.fm. show the last few pages they bookmarked, last songs the listened to, etc...

would try and make the side includes as plugins, so you can choose what to display on a per-user basis and extend it easily.

thoughts, comments and abuse all welcome :)

If people like the idea I'll try and do something better over the weekend.

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great. You can save making profit for when it gets sold to Nokia for millions :p

Me too. Although I don't believe in global warming (a whole other issue, but let's not start a flame war over it) I DO firmly believe in the reduction of our carbon footprint.

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Very similar to what I was thinking, pixel! Nice work.

One suggestion: on the main page, I think we should list just the number of users online and make that a link to another page with the actual list. That way we provide the high-level info but keep the screen clean. As a compromise, we could otherwise list maybe the top 3 most active (or use some other priority context, such as alphanumeric) users along with a symbol indicating that there are more, and again link to a longer list.

Gotta squeeze that geen hosting graphic in a corner somewhere too. :D

EDIT: oh, and I will get right on that logo. I think you guys will like the idea. I'll scan the rough and upload it later.

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Agreed. My idea was to show the number of users online/offline, and just list the last 3-4 users who had updated their profile. The Users page in the top bar would link to a page with links to all the users.

I'll knock up a couple of static HTML pages over the weekend showing how it might all fit together, and how it will fit on the ITs. The site could be made to fit nicely on the IT, but expand to a reasonable amount on a PC.

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Good idea. And I just added the green hosting gif to zero's preview page.

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Is anyone getting any actual work done today. LOL I am chatting with jay and looks like the 2 of you are designing the web page....

dave

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Errrm, it's a Friday. working on a Friday is against my religion :)

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Work? Um... what's that?

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I am not sure but these admins keep calling me asking me to change things on their system. dont they know its friday........

Dave

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Tex, pixel.. join us in the chatroom. :D

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I did but you left. :p

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we got disconnected and i can not get back in for some reason
Dave

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I got kicked, too, and can rejoin chat but not room. Dreamhost problem I suspect...

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I can't access anything on my tablet at work :( stupid microsoft proxy

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i was just able to join. had to close all other windows and then enter chat room through the full lenght name jablet@conference.jabber.jablet.net

Dave

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Ah. Thanks for that Dave.

Here's a logo I worked up at lunch. Note that it will still need some tweaking, and testing at appropriate resolutions (obviously some detail wil be lost at very small sizes).

http://jablet.net/images/jablet_logo1.png

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All i see is an X where the image should be.

Dave

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Hmm. Odd. I see it on my desktop PC and tablet. In fact it looks very nice on the tablet...

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Works for me here. I love the l/stylus.

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Pull the graphic url up on your tablet, zero. Looks sharp!

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Another version:

http://jablet.net/images/jablet_logo2.png

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cool can see them on tablet. i like them.

dave

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Site preview changed to incorporate logo version 2

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I've added a link for site news and status updates.

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Cool. I'm looking at expanding the id, such as into t-shirts, mugs, etc (I have a cafepress account on hold at www.cafepress.com/cynicalsigns that I can use for us and I'm looking at competitors as well).

Here's one idea:

http://www.jablet.net/images/jablet_logo2-shirt.png

http://www.jablet.net/images/UserID1.png

First image is the typical "pocket" graphic, second one goes across the back of the shirt (shoulder to shoulder). People could write in their user name with a laundry pen to advertise. :D

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zero and pizel (also r2d2):

I uploaded a java-based web client for jabber to the site. You can access it at:

http://jablet.net/webjabber/main.jsp

It takes a while to load (probably first time initialization). At this time I haven't done much with it; everything is set to defaults. Hopefully it will work for us.

guys, r2d2rogers offered to help with MySQL stuff. Let's give him a shot. Along those lines, r2d2, what we're going to need soon is a single user registration database. Hopefully we can tie in the current dreamhost jabber users specific to jablet.net. Jablet.net will also share user registration with LDUG.org but I have not yet moved that domain over. We can use ldug.dreamhosters.net until I do.

NOTE: I am also looking at other clients. This one is unfinished and I really want one with vCard support. I see one called jbother that I will also test, etc.

EDIT: a resource for Openfire stuff: http://www.igniterealtime.org/projec...re/plugins.jsp

EDIT 2: jabber portal resource http://jabberportal.mray.de/taxonomy/term/238

Re: Jabber/IMAP/???? services for Tablet Users - Would you use it?
 

Well, here's what's going on from my end.

I find the Jabber server on dreamhost a little unreliable and just plain lacking stuff people need/like (status messages, display pictures) as well as forcing us to add users manually.

I've installed openfire on my home machine and aside from one small bug (display images aren't pulled unless you specifically look at a person's profile - currently being fixed), I'm completely blown away by the feature set.

If you want to give it a shot (please do!) the server is at 24.202.127.50. Registration is open and doable from any Jabber client. If you take a look at the services listed, it's far better.

Also, we can tie user logins all together with LDAP, I believe. One login for all services.

alterego (#maemo) offered his help with coding a wizard for setting up the tablets for use once I've sent him an outline of how I'd like it to work/act. He also offered the possibility of running the Jabber server on one of his Linux boxes, which is an incredible offer.

I'm still hanging out in the Jablet room at conference.jabber.jablet.net. Tex, send me a message and I can show you around the Openfire web interface if you're interested. (Holy crap, have you ever seen so many gateways on a Jabber server before? I didn't install Asterisk-IM yet... but it could be VERY interesting.)

And by the way.. http://24.202.127.50:9090/plugins/pr...@24.202.127.50jay@24.202.127.50

Hehe.. web presence icons, perfect for forums, blog posts, whatever... status updates whenever the icon is pulled. :D

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Zero, looking ahead, I don't believe that asterisk support stable LDAP for SIP users yet. I was envisaging a single register/change password PHP page which would update all the revelant databases. Clunky, yes, but it should work and be fairly easy to extend to other services. Especially if you want to start building custom services on the site, without the overhead of handling an LDAP server.

Sharing registration between jablet and ldug, this might be the simpler route too. We would either need to lock down registration via a jabber client, or make registration via that route automatically create the other accounts.

I've not explored in depth, but I believe that openfire uses a standard database for storing all it's information, so it should be fairly easy to create users and query user status for displaying on the site, if so desired. I already have both of these services running at home, so that's not a problem.

If this is the route you want to start going down, I can look into it and probably set up something basic web-wise on my home server for registering with openfire and asterisk at the same time, and for querying user status?

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Tex, that java client page ain't working, which as it's a JSP page is hardly surprising as it would need a Java web server. If you want me to host it for a trial I can, as I run numerous Java web servers; it is my day job, after all :)