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Mara 2007-11-10 19:31

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Just tried this in a short road trip. It worked fine and map rotation is working great! I didn't think I wanted to use the map rotation function, but now when I tried it I have to say I like that feature.

I noticed one anomaly: Normally when you stop for long (few minutes?) time, the software detects this and turns off the display (when full screen) automatically. This time when I parked the car for about an hour, the display was still lit when I came back to car.

pearl62 2007-11-10 22:21

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I just finished a 900 mile trip yesterday, and I ran MM the whole time. It worked perfectly! Thanks gnuite!!

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:19

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldstream (Post 92932)
Gnuite,
I am experiencing issues with the GPS/MM. It seems after initially using MM w/ my GPS, the next time I use it, MM will start tracking for about 5 seconds and then stall. I can restart the GPS tracking and it will repeat the same problem. To resolve the issue, I have to reboot the device and its good to go again.

Which runtime environment (770? N800? OS 2007? RFCOMM?)?
Which version of Maemo Mapper?
Which GPS receiver?

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:20

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrreid (Post 92944)
Open Street Map only renders tiles to an equivalent of zoom=4 (which is also used for zoom=3), which on OSM's tile server is a zoom level 17 tile. However maemo-mapper's zoom=2 requests tiles from the /19/ zoom level which doesn't exist, and zoom=0 requests from the /21/ zoom level. Is there any way that a maximum level option could be set per repository, to prevent someone from requesting a range of zooms for an large area and hammering the OSM tile server with literally tens of thousands of invalid requests? This may not be too big an issue with larger map providers such as google (although they do limit on a per-client basis after a certain point as I understand it), we have only a finite amount of server resources and are trying to get the word out to the authors of the various tools that may be the source of some bad requests.

Yes, I can accommodate this. Thanks for the suggestion.

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:22

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9a6or (Post 92972)
Gnuite, this might explain why MM gives failure messages when trying to download/process low zoom levels (I've reported this earlier here). It happens with Google Maps though in my case.

Yes, obviously Maemo Mapper cannot download maps that the repository server does not have. Maemo Mapper will report an error in this case.

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:23

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cwiiis (Post 93060)
So, now you have a free N810 heading your way, Gnuite, will we see an IT2008 port soon? :) I'm certainly looking forward to one!

I'll make sure that Maemo Mapper works on the N810 (with the internal GPS receiver) as soon as I receive a unit on which to test.

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:24

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by francisco_barahona (Post 93077)
I managed to install MM 2.0. When I try to load it, it says "the current repository is in a legacy format ..." and it does not load.
I tried to delete every map I had, but it seems that something is left.
How can I clean the repository? Where should I look?
Thanks

Try deleting the directory itself, and any other files in the parent directory that have a similar name as that of the directory (i.e. "MyMaps.db" instead of "MyMaps").

gnuite 2007-11-11 06:27

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 93083)
Just tried this in a short road trip. It worked fine and map rotation is working great! I didn't think I wanted to use the map rotation function, but now when I tried it I have to say I like that feature.

I noticed one anomaly: Normally when you stop for long (few minutes?) time, the software detects this and turns off the display (when full screen) automatically. This time when I parked the car for about an hour, the display was still lit when I came back to car.

There is a new setting in the Settings dialog that controls exactly when Maemo Mapper keeps the screen on. It's in the "Misc. 2" tab.

If you have it set to "When Moving" (with or without the Fullscreen option), then Maemo Mapper will keep the screen on if you move at least a certain (fairly small) distance. If your GPS receiver is getting poor reception, or if interference changes the GPS receiver's calculation even the slightest, then the screen will be unblanked. This may be what you encountered....

mplawner 2007-11-11 06:49

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Sorry I'm behind, but it took me a few days to try out the software, and I can now confirm that version 2.0.3 is working properly with the Holux GPSlim 240. It's been 10 pages since, so excuse me if this is a repeat of someone else, but I figured posting good news would not attract as much fire as asking a previously asked question. ;)

Thanks, Gnuite!

DingerX 2007-11-11 08:11

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Had a weird situation where MM would fail to load. It would announce loading, the process would start, and then nothing. Rebooting the unit didn't help.

What eventually worked was taking xterm and deleting apps/.maemo-mapper, then killing any and all active m-m processes.

It's not a proper bug report, and for all I know just killing the processes might work (but then why didn't it run on reboot?), but if anyone else sees this happen, maybe we can figure it out.

coldstream 2007-11-11 12:07

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 93195)
Which runtime environment (770? N800? OS 2007? RFCOMM?)?
Which version of Maemo Mapper?
Which GPS receiver?

OS2007 on 770
MM 2.0.3
i-Blue Edition 2 (i-Blue 737)

TA-t3 2007-11-11 15:02

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jrreid (Post 92944)
Is there any way that a maximum level option could be set per repository,

This sounds like a good idea not only for openstreetmaps but also for the other repos.. right now if I zoom to level3 (for google maps) in my home area it can go into 'processing' for a loooong time and come out only with 'failed to download nnn maps'.. I believe it's simply because there are no maps. In such cases it would be better to simply double-pixel it and not try to download.

jhoff80 2007-11-11 15:49

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Wow, I just got an n800 and this program is awesome. However, for long trips its telling me that it'll take up a ton of data to download it beforehand. If I was to tether it to my Treo, would that mean it would eventually end up downloading the same amount?

Also, a little unrelated... I'm shocked at how well OpenStreetMaps has my state (Massachusetts) mapped out compared to the rest of the US, I wonder why that is.

ralphb 2007-11-11 16:59

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Maemo Mapper 2.0.3 on my N800 (OS version 4.2007.38-2) disappears (i.e crashes) when I try to open a previously saved track file. (See contents of RobbieNR.zip attached)

phatsua 2007-11-11 17:58

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
guys .. where I live in Bucharest, Romania I only have the yahoo maps to show my streets, will I be able to download and cache the maps from yahoo just like you guys get the google ones ? I also purchased a 8gb card and I was wondering where is better to put the card with the maps in the external or internal slot :) thx :P

barry99705 2007-11-11 18:32

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhoff80 (Post 93272)
Wow, I just got an n800 and this program is awesome. However, for long trips its telling me that it'll take up a ton of data to download it beforehand. If I was to tether it to my Treo, would that mean it would eventually end up downloading the same amount?

Also, a little unrelated... I'm shocked at how well OpenStreetMaps has my state (Massachusetts) mapped out compared to the rest of the US, I wonder why that is.

There's some people there mapping out the state. OpenStreetMap is all done be it's users.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index....nners%27_Guide

howardcb 2007-11-11 22:38

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldstream (Post 92932)
Gnuite,
I am experiencing issues with the GPS/MM. It seems after initially using MM w/ my GPS, the next time I use it, MM will start tracking for about 5 seconds and then stall. I can restart the GPS tracking and it will repeat the same problem. To resolve the issue, I have to reboot the device and its good to go again.

I also noticed the above problem this weekend. I'm using MM2.03 on a N800 with a Holux 240 GPS receiver. (I'm just using the built in Bluetooth software.) After MM stalls, I have to reboot the N800. If I just quit MM and then restart it, MM will stall again. Aside from that, I found the map auto-rotation was great to use around town, while I preferred the fixed (North is 'up') orientation for long highway driving.

Thanks for the great update.

Howard

tps 2007-11-12 01:35

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0 (feature request)
 
I use my N800 and MM for geocaching. It's a very cool combo, and MM is a great program! However, there is one feature of my regular GPS that I miss in MM. If I try to do a 'as the crow flies' route (straight line) to a waypoint or POI on the GPS, it shows a line to where I'm supposed to be, and gives me the distance in feet to the point I'm aiming for. Is any of this possible in MM? I'd settle for the displayed distance, as that's the important thing.

Tim

gnuite 2007-11-12 03:57

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 91248)
I'll be honest. When I first got my N800 and downloaded MM i didn't get it either. I thought a blank screen was all it was too (well maybe the map of the entire US of A). So I kinda understand this fellows thinking though I wouldn't have posted it here in the manner he did. It was really by accident that I hit the zoom key and figured out what was going on.

Perhaps there should a be quick "set up" screen or something that kind of points total noobs in a direction to get up and going in the most basic way and have that screen only appear the first time the app is run.

There is a "Quick-Start" tutorial in the Maemo Mapper help file. When a user starts Maemo Mapper for the first time, it asks them if they want to start the tutorial. If you refuse, you can always access the tutorial from the Help button in the main menu.

dburr10085 2007-11-12 14:01

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 92881)
Which GPS receiver do you use? Which version of Maemo Mapper are you using? Did the problem appear after upgrading to a new version (if so, from and to which versions).


Ok - i figured it out. I'm still having the bluetooth on before mapper issue. The problem didnt start until 2.X. Basically, I have to turn off my bluetooth phone before starting mapper or the gps fix will freeze. I can turn the phone on after I get a fix. I think my receiver is the BT-77?? I'm using the latest mapper 2.3.

dburr10085 2007-11-12 14:08

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 93195)
Which runtime environment (770? N800? OS 2007? RFCOMM?)?
Which version of Maemo Mapper?
Which GPS receiver?

this is the same kind of issue that I'm having. it has to do with having bluetooth connected to a phone before turning on mapper. I'm having this isssue wit h mapper 2.03 os2007he. If i turn on mapper before letting it connect to my phone, the problem seems to go away.

gnuite 2007-11-13 02:35

Maemo Mapper v2.0.4 Released
 
Maemo Mapper v2.0.4 has been released.

This release adds a couple of minor features and
fixes a slew of minor bugs. See the changelog
for complete details of all the changes.

CHANGELOG

* Added "Min. Speed" option in "Auto-Center" tab of "Settings", which allows you to specify a minimum speed at which you must be traveling in order for Auto-Center (and Auto-Rotate) to activate. (closes #1626)
* Fixed bug in Browsing for new Map Cache DB files. (closes #1613)
* Fixed crashes that occurred with POI View/Add dialog.
* Fixed crashes that occurred when opening previously-saved tracks and routes. (closes #1619)
* Fixed spurious error reports when downloading maps that already exist. (closes #1621)
* Renamed "Location" context menu to "Tap Point". (closes #1624)
* Changed the way zoom levels are initialized in the "Manage Maps" dialog, to be much less arbitrary.
* Fixed POI database creation to include creation of the directory.

barry99705 2007-11-13 03:42

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Is it just me, or are the maps taking up more space than before? In the past I've predownloaded the maps for Fairbanks and North Pole. It used to take around 800Mb. Now the same area says it's going to take around 4Gb! Same zoom levels for both.

brandonros 2007-11-13 09:12

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Yeah, they do seem to take up more space. I have a couple problems though... When I zoom with any map (street/satellite) into a zoom level of 0 or 1, the download doesn't work. It says something like 49 maps failed to download. What's going on with this?
Another problem semi-related is that it downloads tons of maps for one area view. Why doesn't it just download the maps of my view? I would think this might be better because I used to be able to connect to my t-mobile 5.99 web plan and download maps as I drove. Now, it won't download any and says "xxx maps failed to download" and I'm guessing it's because of the slower connection. Is there a fix for this? TIA

DingerX 2007-11-13 11:51

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Uh, the prediction is "up to" 4 Gb. In reality, it ends up being much less...

I'm not sure zoom levels 0-3 even exist as downloadable. I always thought they were magnifications of level 4 (= the old level 0)

TA-t3 2007-11-13 12:18

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonros (Post 93885)
Another problem semi-related is that it downloads tons of maps for one area view. Why doesn't it just download the maps of my view? I would think this might be better because I used to be able to connect to my t-mobile 5.99 web plan and download maps as I drove. [..]

I'm also having a bit of trouble with this. My 3G/EDGE connection is extremely lousy (lots of packet losses etc.) and the 'processing maps' takes many minutes every time there are maps to be updated (or fail to update). Maybe the download area margin could be made configurable?

Just installed the 2.0.4 upgrade. MM is really one of the top candidates for "the Nokia Internet Tablet Killer Application" IMO. Great program!

rhouge 2007-11-13 13:01

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 89646)
I don't know if this was a feature in 1.4 as well but I just noticed the pixel doubling option for displaying maps. That's really nice for the glasses wearers among us. 8)

I'm having a REAL hard time finding this. I was quite used to the larger map view in v1.4. Pretty handy when mounted on the dash. Can someone point me in the right direction?

EDIT: I'm on v2.0.3

sondjata 2007-11-13 13:56

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I think there may be a bug with the distance calculations. Last night i checked the track distance from my home to the Beacon Theater in Manhattan and it said that I traveled over 3,000 miles. Could this be due to the new more detailed zoom levels?

sondjata 2007-11-13 13:57

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
sorry, that was with V 2.0.3. I haven't checked 2.0.4 yet.

TPC 2007-11-13 14:20

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0.4 Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 93829)

* Added "Min. Speed" option in "Auto-Center" tab of "Settings", which allows you to specify a minimum speed at which you must be traveling in order for Auto-Center (and Auto-Rotate) to activate. (closes #1626)

Feature request: could you make it so if you are traveling below this speed it will collect the coordinates it gets and produce an average of them? So the longer you stand still the more accurate your position should get in theory. This is useful when geocaching when placing a cache somewhere, you want your coordinates to be as accurate as possible when sharing with others and don't mind standing around for a few minutes to get the average position.

zeez 2007-11-13 15:04

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I'm usually just using two zoom levels: One as a global overview (of highways) and one detailed view of the area I'm currently in. Is there any way in Meamo Mapper to automatically switch between these two zoom levels depending on the speed I'm traveling at ?

barry99705 2007-11-13 16:04

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Would also be nice to have it not dim the screen when in full screen mode no matter what. Kinda like the old version.

jdr93 2007-11-13 16:07

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
gnuite: thank you for your continuing work on mmapper. as mentioned above it is definitely a program which should be at the top of the list of necessary additions to the tablet. i've used both navicore and mmapper and prefer mm. though the program can't reset itself and plot a new route if you veer off the highway, you can zoom out a ways and keep the planned route in view while you meander about off-route. like a paper map you can still see all the roads, but with the addition of a pointer showing where you are, so you can figure out for yourself how to get back to the planned route, usually without having to retrace your steps.

john

dburr10085 2007-11-13 16:16

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 93841)
Is it just me, or are the maps taking up more space than before? In the past I've predownloaded the maps for Fairbanks and North Pole. It used to take around 800Mb. Now the same area says it's going to take around 4Gb! Same zoom levels for both.

I also thought they were taking up more space, but you have to remember that most of the maps are able to zoom in more than before, meaning that the level 4 map in 2.X is actually a closer resolution than level 4 in 1.X. Therefore the increased resolution will take more space

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:28

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 93841)
Is it just me, or are the maps taking up more space than before? In the past I've predownloaded the maps for Fairbanks and North Pole. It used to take around 800Mb. Now the same area says it's going to take around 4Gb! Same zoom levels for both.

By "same zoom levels for both," do you mean "equivalent zoom levels," i.e. after taking into account the change in zoom numbers (Zoom Level 4 is equivalent to the old Zoom Level 0)?

Which version of Maemo Mapper are you using (4GB)? Which version of Maemo Mapper were you using before (800MB)?

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:31

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonros (Post 93885)
Yeah, they do seem to take up more space. I have a couple problems though... When I zoom with any map (street/satellite) into a zoom level of 0 or 1, the download doesn't work. It says something like 49 maps failed to download. What's going on with this?

Your map repository probably does not support zoom levels 0 or 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonros (Post 93885)
Another problem semi-related is that it downloads tons of maps for one area view. Why doesn't it just download the maps of my view?

It's called the "Auto-Download Pre-Cache," and it downloads some of the surrounding areas in case you pan to those areas (to keep those areas from being black for long periods of time). You can reduce the Pre-Cache to the minimum value (in the "Misc. 2" tab of the Settings dialog) in order to download only what is required to draw the screen.

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:32

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DingerX (Post 93918)
Uh, the prediction is "up to" 4 Gb. In reality, it ends up being much less...

I'm not sure zoom levels 0-3 even exist as downloadable. I always thought they were magnifications of level 4 (= the old level 0)

They do exist for some map repositories in some locations. For example, I know that Google Maps supports zoom level 0 (called "-4" by them) for some limited areas of the world.

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:32

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 93928)
I'm also having a bit of trouble with this. My 3G/EDGE connection is extremely lousy (lots of packet losses etc.) and the 'processing maps' takes many minutes every time there are maps to be updated (or fail to update). Maybe the download area margin could be made configurable?

See the "Auto-Download Pre-Cache" setting in the "Misc. 2" tab of the Settings dialog.

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:35

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rhouge (Post 93940)
I'm having a REAL hard time finding this. I was quite used to the larger map view in v1.4. Pretty handy when mounted on the dash. Can someone point me in the right direction?

EDIT: I'm on v2.0.3

It's the same as in v1.4. In the "Manage Repositories" dialog, each repository has an option called "Double Pixels". Is it not working for you?

gnuite 2007-11-13 17:40

Re: Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 93964)
I think there may be a bug with the distance calculations. Last night i checked the track distance from my home to the Beacon Theater in Manhattan and it said that I traveled over 3,000 miles. Could this be due to the new more detailed zoom levels?

Only if the track contains points from both before the zoom change and after the zoom change. That is, if you started creating the track with Maemo Mapper v2.0, then you upgraded to v2.0.1 (or vice versa), then you created more track points, then the distance will be miscalculated.

Otherwise, it's a bug. I'll check it out.


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