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Go into Control Center -> Appearance -> Colors -> Lots of simple Color Schemes or just like on a desktop - you can change individual colors as you wish. FWIW - I believe that theme is called simply "System".

As for Right Click - nope sorry no way to make that happen yet. However, you can perform all of the Right Click functions via alternative routes - or in a few placed you can force a Left click to behave like a Right click. For example: you can force a Left click (tap with stylus) on the desktop to behave like a Right click and bring up a menu. I did this for a while but found I accidently touched the desktop fairly often and the menu popping up was annoying to me. There's nothing in that menu that can't be initiated by some other means.

You guys really should take some time and just go through Control Center and read the Handbook for Control Center - the amount of customization is fabulous.

Also - any N810 owners should use Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys -> Check "Use Sticky Keys" and "Lock Sticky Keys". This will allow your Fn & Shift keys to work like they do in Maemo (ie: Tap Fn then tap the 2nd button instead of needing to tap both at the same time). While you're in Regional & Accessibility check out the Keyboard Shortcuts section too. There you can map any combination of keyboard shortcuts you like - for instance I've mapped Shift+F4 (which is actually the Menu key) to Close a window if pressed at the same time. You can also make application specific keyboard shortcuts - for example when I'm in KOrganizer, Ctrl +E will bring up the New Event dialog. You get the idea :D

Ok sorry for the ramblings...

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The one thing I haven't yet figured out how to do without right clicking is adding/editing/deleting applets/quicklaunch from the panel. Any idea on that?

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If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries ;)

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I'm quite amazed and delighted with this KDE program. I've been trying to get aquainted with it all day today. I don't seem to have the font problem with mine which I wish I could shed some light on why. The only thing I can think of is that my install went well- no glitches. And I did reboot so that's not why.
Anyway, I do have a very frustrating problem with it. I've been trying to configure Kmail. It goes fine until one of the dialogue boxes is too large so that I can't see the bottom of the screen to click the Ok button. I know. I've been reading this whole thread and I see the solutions to this. But those solutions don't seem to work with this particular box. So,to set up an email account, first you establish the identity including the name and email address. Then you click the account tab. A small easy to deal with box opens where you establish what kind of email account you want like pop or Imap. Then you are confronted with an apparently impossible dialogue box. I've looked at all the options that I could find anyway. I tried assigning this box to a second desk top so I could move it around in the four little desk top sliders at the tool bar. I've tried resizing the box. The problem seems to be that even though I seem to be opening the menu system at the top corner of this particular box, the settings then extend to the parent box rather than this box. The box takes up the whole page top to bottom. So is it just me and my stupidity or is this a problem for you guys too?

EDIT: Well ,I guess I do have a small font issue. Pretty much it's limited to the top edge of small g's. They kind of look like y's that way. But I think this is a tiny trade off for the KDE application installation since this glitch, at least for me, is easy to ignore.

Thanks,
Neil

PS- seems like we need a new forum just for this KDE stuff.

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I've just seen the same behavior in Kalendar if you try to move the kind of secondary window you're talking about using the Window Pager in the panel. However, I can move using a button that I assigned to Move- Window in the keyboard shortcuts secion of control center. You re-assign any button you want. I've assigned my menu button (N810) to Move so now I press it and then use the stylus to move any window I want. I've haven't met a window yet that this didn't work on including email. :)

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I'm not a Linux user, so I wouldn't have any idea how to do this. But maybe the N800, which is what I was talking about above, could be mapped out so that the upper left hard button meant for scrolling side to side and up and down could be used similarly to what you are doing here. I need to be able to move this particular dialogue box or I won't be able to use my Gmail account in kmail. Anyone who tries to configure their email account in Kmail is going to run into this problem on an n800. There may also be other secondary windows that we will have this problem with as well.

Neil

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Ok... It's quite simple - it's no different than remapping using Window or Mac-

Open up the KDE "Start Menu" -> Control Center (this is like Windows Control Panel) -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> You'll see a window that has 3 columns = Action; Shortcut; Alternate Shortcut -> Scroll down the list until you see the one that says "Move Window" -> tap it so that it's highlighted -> tap the button next to Custom that is just below the window -> a small pop-up window will appear -> Here you just press the button you want to assign to the task - KDE will show the value of the button (ie: up, down F4, F5, Shift etc); you can also set it up so that you press 2 buttons at the same time - this allows you to keep the original function of the individual buttons when pressed by themselves.

The Alternate shortcut is handy if you use a BlueTooth keyboard - you can assign shortcuts for it as well.

While you're here in Control Center - you can change your color scheme, font size, wallpaper and so much more. :D

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Thanks a lot! It rocks! anyone tried to test firefox on it?
[http://picasaweb.google.com/llahiru/MyN800WithKDE]

-Lahiru.

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Apparantly this process of making the bottom of some dialogue windows visible is something that experienced users of KDE find easy but dispite PCQ's helpful post above I can not seem to get the settings set correctly to be able to see the bottoms sometimes. When I press the resize option in the window menu for example, the menu just closes rather than giving me options. I love all the obvious features in this program, but I'm finding it pretty useless because of this problem sorry to say. But I don't see much response to my last post so I guess I'm the only one having this problem . Again I've seen the suggestions earlier in this thread. I'm just saying that the methods don't seem to work with all the windows. The problem with this particular window is that it refuses to go above the top of the screen. I can drag it down or side to side, but no way will it go up above the screen top. Even if I was able to set up a short cut to move the wndow I bet it would just stop at the top anyway. So how are you guys dealing with this? Maybe by just resizing a pop up dialogue window smaller then moving it up? Like I said, I don't get this option.

Neil

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PCQ,
I really appreciate that you are trying to help me. It sounds like you have a more managable situation with the n810. I did try making a link to use the hard up down button on my n800. I clicked the setting in control center and then touched the up button. It seemed to activate it since I got a dialogue message that asked me about a conflict with another setting. Then when I tried to use it it didn't do anything. But I didn't try holding that and simultaniously moving the window with the stylis. We'll see. I'm not going to delete this software. Like I said earlier, apparently you all are getting it to work. I will sooner or later.

Neil

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Thanks! I added this step to get bzip2 loaded:

# apt-get install bzip

I didn't have the trouble you describe with e2fsprogs and have not been able to reproduce it. When I have time I'll start from scratch again and see what happens.

I also had trouble with the new linux partition auto mounting, but only after rebooting. That's why I included the steps to unmount after reboots when necessary. After I added those steps I had no trouble. It's interesting that your partition auto mounted even before you rebooted (if I read your post correctly).

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pronuke, I added a link to your page on tablethacker.com

http://tablethacker.com/kde.html

Hope thats cool ;)


Nice work!

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Penguinbait, Pronuke,

Great work Penguinbate on koffice Nice work with instructions Pronuke. I'm getting my n800 with os2008 ready for Koffice. I need some guidance before I can proceed with installing Koffice.
I just setup USB Host with external drives. Now I'm working on getting os2008 on mmc card. I just successfully used Fanoush's flasher. I got the boot menu prompt asking me to choose boot path. I chose flash, everything loads smoothly. I checked application manager for 'wget and e2fsprogs' and they show as installed. I checked that virtual memory was off. I go into xterm type in commands for unmount and I get message below. Any ideas or workarounds. Two weeks go was the first time I ever touched linux so guide me as a novice if you can. Thanks, Dan

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unmount is not a command

umount is what you want

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Penguinbait,

Don't know the terminology.
I'm just following instructions for getting partition setup. I been reading online here and in other forums on the web and can't seem to get past this unmount issue. If you've encountered this hurdle before and know how to get over it I'd appreciate it or if you know where to look for possible solution that would be good to.
Thanks, Dan

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If the instructions say unmount, its a mistype

umount NOT unmount

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Is it safe just to uninstall the deb KDE via Application Manager before reinstalling using Pronuke's instructions for booting from MMC?

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If everything is installed correctly, then yes, just remove kdesup, kdemmc and local in that order

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Penguinbait,

Thanks, its 'umount' not 'unmount' but still similiar error message, "umount/media/mmc2". Any ideas.
Thanks,

dan

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similar? hmmm?

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Penguinbaitt,

Below is the screen shot of the output.

Dan

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NOT umount/media/mmc2

YES umount /media/mmc2

NOTICE THE SPACE YOU MISSED AFTER UMOUNT ;)

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Please show a screen shot or an EXACT copy of the screen typed out. It will make it much easier to diagnose. It is almost impossible for you to have accidentally removed the umount binary.

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Penguinbait,

My mistake. I missed the space. I'm working on the n800 screen.

Thanks, Can't wait to put up your Koffice!

P.S. Thanks James415

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Penguinbait,

edit: someone helping me.
I've got a 16gb internal and 16gb external card. I want to dedicate about 7gb in the internal for the system and the rest for memory. I've read Milhouse's examples and others but I'm so comfused by math(I'm dyslexic, numbers get reversed) can you help me with figuring out the numbering for my percentages?
Thanks,
Dan

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You are really better off posting this in Milhouse's thread. I am not familiar with his process.

There is a deb install process which does not require partitioning which may be easier for you, but I dont have a 16GB card and all the numbers (cyclinders/sectors) are differ by manufacturer.

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I think it is called "Atlas Green' I found it when playing around in the 'appearances' section of the control panel or whatever it is called. I even tweaked some of the colors and created my own theme.

I can't post again without commenting on just how amazing KDE is on my N810! Agreed with the poster who called it a 'dancing bear' but having danced with a few bears, notably those of the 'ms x.0' variety and this at least works! Of course it is slow in many of the apps that require a lot of resources, but it works and so far, with only a single freeze (admittedly I had a few windows open=).

I like it so far becasue I just figured out how to access not only the content on my N810 but even how use a couple of the applications on the N810 *in* KDE (MediaPlayer and Images)

Also, I can access all my content on other disks (well, some other discs) using usb! Immediately after installing KDE I had usb host 'problem' that proved to be all a bad dream...erm, that is, I caused it by deleting a file. It may not prove to be the best way to use the IT, but for now, KDE has my attention! Thanks again Penguinbait for demonstrating the power of our little 'toy'.

PSsst. Post your 'donate here' button again;)

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Hey thanks, FYI, I will be posting some updates in the near future to toggle the usb host mode, I will also include cdrom and joystick support. I also want to get a consensus from everybody on which settings to change the defaults on. I am thinking of starting a KDE settings thread, if nobody beats me to it :D


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Oh I cant wait to get my 810, I am dying here :confused:

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penguinbait see my post HERE with regards to a proposal for dedicated area/forum/wiki/blog for KDE development on the IT- ITKDE.COM

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how do we right click?

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Great guide, got KDE installed for me - thanks

I PM'ed you feedback on some minor typos

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Penguinbait,

Do you know if kde conflicts with USB Host mode using osso status bar?
I'm dual booting and I run USB Host from internal boot and not through dual mode
because of known conflict. If I put kde in dual mode section and keep USB Host
mode will they coexist? I've seen several conflicts between the two apps
but no one addressing an answer tto this issue. I'm wondering if my idea would
work. I'm traveling and I can't easily reflash or reinstall. Thanks, Dan

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There is no usb issues, thats like a urban legend...;)

new version has host mode switch on taskbar

pm me for a link

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Sorry, PB, I'm the guilty party for creating this legend, I'm afraid, and I'd like to lay it to rest. Any usb 'issues' brought up in this thread were of my own making and should properly be ignored:p

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I'm getting the following message when I use Pronukes
directions to install kde on a dual boot setup. I'm not xterm
proficient so please walk me through. Thanks, Dan


/home/user # mv /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/KDE358v2.tar.bz2/KDE358v2.tar.bz2
BusyBox v1.6.1 (2007-09-27 18:08:59 EEST) multi-call binary

Usage: mv [OPTION]... SOURCE DEST
or: mv [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY

/home/user #

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You're missing the space after the first bz2.

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Thanks Dubwise.
I missed that one.
Can you look at this new message and give additional advise.
Thanks, Dan


/home/user # mv /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/KDE358v2.tar.bz2 /KDE358v2.tar.bz2
/home/user # mv /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/SUPv2.tgz /SUPv2.tgz
/home/user # cd /
/ # /tar-temp/bin/tar jxvf KDE358v2.tar.bz2
/bin/sh: /tar-temp/bin/tar: not found
/ #

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The step where you were supposed to put the gnu version of tar
into the tar-temp directory didn't work. It's not there.

It's Step 6 in Pronuke's guide.

You're supposed to download the .deb with a web browser or whatever
and save it in your Documents folder, and then use dpkg to open it.
You may have just clicked on it and handed it to Application manager.
Not sure what that would do.

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I did steps 1 through 4 of Pronukes instructions then step 7 of Milhouse
directions for dual boot, because Milhouse automated the rest of the process.
The dual boot works well. If I now go and do step 6 of Pronuke will
I have to do any additional steps, or is their an easier way of doing this? Also
would this affect my dual boot setup? I'm just a novice at linux and xterm.
Any additional suggestions, explaination and guidance would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan

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I didn't use Milhouse, for exactly that reason.
I wanted to see what the commands were.

Dunno, sorry. I'm totally new here, too. I got my N810 a few weeks ago,
and had never touched Linux before.

If you've got dual boot working, I'd just do Step 6 from Pronuke,
and then try again to untar the two files.
Note that Pronuke has a typo. The .tgz has to get zxvf, not jxvf.