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technut 2007-11-26 23:22

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
I'm just waiting for Darius2006 to create his next fictional crisis-of-the-moment. But he'll probably start a new thread for it.

Darius2006 2007-11-26 23:43

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by technut (Post 100433)
I'm just waiting for Darius2006 to create his next fictional crisis-of-the-moment. But he'll probably start a new thread for it.

AFAIK, no chance.
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2006/sy...uct_dba_page=3
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2006/sy...uct_dba_page=4

AFAIK, Happy users of Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710

convulted 2007-11-26 23:46

Re: No more 770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darius2006 (Post 100446)
AFAIK, Happy users of Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710

Lol. I can't stop myself from replying to this thread. What?

Hedgecore 2007-11-27 01:07

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Hey Reggie, instead of locking this thread, can you move it to Off Topic so we can slug it out some more (until it degenerates into name calling?) Seriously, we've all been pretty good about not name calling and getting *completely* stupid. :)

Darius2006 2007-11-27 01:40

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedgecore (Post 100490)
Hey Reggie, instead of locking this thread, can you move it to Off Topic so we can slug it out some more (until it degenerates into name calling?) Seriously, we've all been pretty good about not name calling and getting *completely* stupid. :)

AFAIK, Your input is exactly off-topic.

Do something right and go to maemo.org and ask Nokia
why N770 applications are no more maintained, i.e. supported by Nokia, i.e. at maemo.org N770 package installs have been removed.

Just one, simple answer is what I need.

Look for great Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 touch screen smartphones made by Nokia.

Darius

technut 2007-11-27 02:52

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
I have the solution.

< Add Darius2006 to Your Ignore List >

YoDude 2007-11-27 02:54

Re: No more 770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by convulted (Post 100414)
Hmm I can imagine someone trying to patent: "A circular form intersected at the 5 o'clock position by a radial line extending inwards from the circle roughly halfway towards its centre and outwards in such a manner so as to be symmetric with respect to the tangent to the circle at the point of intersection."

We also had the letter N but Grandpa had to sell it to IBM.
I'm told it had something to do with helping him pay legal expenses he accumulated defending the letter Q from a hostile take over by some company that glued balls of cotton on the ends of little sticks. :)

fanoush 2007-11-27 06:47

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by technut (Post 100534)
I have the solution.

< Add Darius2006 to Your Ignore List >

No, this can be more annoying. You still can't avoid seeing threads created by him in 'new posts' and otherwise bear the traffic around his posts (like seeing replies, quoted posts etc.). And then you even can't enjoy some of his masterpieces when you are bored :-) Still I added him to my ignore list to test how this stuff works (never used it so far).

I think that 'No thanks button' idea can be useful. People who don't know such person yet wouldn't waste time arguing and replying to posts that don't look completely stupid from the beginning but get worse sooner or later.

lucky-luke 2007-11-27 08:32

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
And.... for when an os2008HE for our n770?? or a stable (and old) OS2007?
I think our 770 is going dead....

technut 2007-11-27 08:38

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 100616)
I think that 'No thanks button' idea can be useful.

Even better, can we vote someone off the island? ;)

Hedgecore 2007-11-27 12:20

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Darius:

1.) There's no such thing as an N770. I think you're talking about the Nokia 770.

2.) Nokia never supported the whole 770 package base to begin with. Nokia doesn't maintain 770 applications. The developers do. Most of them seem to be slowly migrating from a dying platform (ie your 2-generations-behind-2.5-year-old-tablet.)

3.) You keep saying as far as I know but you don't seem to know much. I'd chalked your original garbage up to being hammered but nobody's liver can keep it up for that long. Amazing.

TA-t3 2007-11-27 14:45

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
(Reading the posts and shaking my head all the way)

Oh boy I haven't been so close to updating my (extremely short) 'ignore' list since you-know-who was active. Still hoping to avoid that though but..

nosam 2007-11-27 20:21

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darius2006 (Post 99475)
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2006/sy...uct_dba_page=3

http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2006/sy...uct_dba_page=4

Please email Ari Jaaksi, Nokia's director of open source
to take full control over maemo.org's activities
to keep N770 applications available for download/install as previously.


http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/


Darius

Darius, but you can still install the applications even though there is no one-click install. Isn't that good enough?

I usually click on the "homepage" for the application and then download it from there. I agree it would be better to have a 1 click install but this way works. I usually download from a PC the .deb file and transfer it to my 770 using a USB-card reader. Then run it on the 770.

Is there any software you can't install? (A few programs are out of date but most are there on the project homepage link from maemo).

- Another Happy Nokia 770 user

MstPrgmr 2007-11-27 20:38

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosam (Post 100927)
Darius, but you can still install the applications even though there is no one-click install. Isn't that good enough?

I usually click on the "homepage" for the application and then download it from there. I agree it would be better to have a 1 click install but this way works. I usually download from a PC the .deb file and transfer it to my 770 using a USB-card reader. Then run it on the 770.

Is there any software you can't install? (A few programs are out of date but most are there on the project homepage link from maemo).

- Another Happy Nokia 770 user


I am an N800 user, but I can agree that that isn't "good enough." There is no valid reason to remove the 1-click install. What if they did this to the N800/N810? I bet more people would be angry then. The link isn't costing them a fortune, and in fact removing it was more work than leaving it there. Well, I guess I can only expect this type of phasing out to occur to the N8x0's once the N900 hits. Wonder if people will complain then...

nosam 2007-11-27 21:26

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MstPrgmr (Post 100936)
What if they did this to the N800/N810? I bet more people would be angry then. The link isn't costing them a fortune, and in fact removing it was more work than leaving it there.

I don't think Nokia went and removed it - these applications were community developed and I think they just got old for some of them and the links died. Someone with more experience can correct me, [EDIT: like the next post ;) ]
but I think its not a "plan" or anything active on Nokias part. The developers just let it go. Since they were nice enough to create software for us - I don't really mind having to go to a home page to download it.
ANy high demand or useful software is pretty easy to find and install - and a million friendly ITT folks will help if you have a problem installing.

fpp 2007-11-27 21:28

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Reality check : is there any evidence - apart from Darius's rants - that anyone from Nokia actually *removed* one-click install icons from the OS2006 Catalog on maemo.org ?

As I noted earlier, there have always been lots (most, actually) of 2006 apps without a .install file, either because their repositories were created before the feature became available (and the authors didn't bother to add it afterwards), or because they never had a repo in the first place and were available only as downloadable .deb files.

And if some icons were green before and have now turned grey, how do we know it's not because the repository it pointed to, just no longer exists ? Maybe there is some sort of link checker that runs through the catalog entries periodically and disables links that have been unavailable for extended periods of time...

These are just suppositions, but at least they're sensible. The guy is obviously somewhat paranoid, so let's just keep our heads. Conspiracy theory is a fun game that shouldn't be taken too seriously.

technut 2007-11-27 21:35

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Are you sure there ever was a one-click install for all those? Haven't they just recently made that a default feature of the redesigned site?

convulted 2007-11-27 21:37

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Terrorists are taking over maemo.org!

Hedgecore 2007-11-27 22:04

Re: No more N770 applications at maemo.org to download
 
Every time you use a .install file, the terrorists win.

(I was more onto his defiance about the "N-Series" 770... given the development network is a loose patchwork of people, it's no surprise repositories are going up and down left and right.)


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