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barry99705 2007-12-08 01:57

Re: Dell Axim x51v
 
Someone put this "my god is better than your god" thread out of it's misery.

Beni 2007-12-08 02:22

Re: Dell Axim x51v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 105904)
Someone put this "my god is better than your god" thread out of it's misery.

actually I don't own one, though I do know someone who does.

Beni 2007-12-08 02:23

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I've owned an X50v for quite a while. For video (using TCPMP -- now Coreplayer) it's amazing with its accellerated Intel chip. Yes, better then the N8xx. But other then that ,I'll be glad to get rid of it once my eBay auction ends. Battery life is really poor, especially if Wifi is on (god forbid) or an app is running the CPU much. It makes me laugh thinking about having my n800 online and available for days.

Also in the world of Windows Mobile you also end up paying for apps more often then not. There are decent free apps, but they are the exception. I still use Windows Mobile via my phone (Moto Q) but other then that, I'm glad to be done.
Again, how is 4 hours bad? Thats the same as the N800? Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

Beni 2007-12-08 02:25

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 105903)
Sorry, but you're wrong. My N800 routinely gets 5 or 6 hours of active use.

Impressive. A x51v can get 16 hours with a 300mAh battery.

johnkzin 2007-12-08 03:56

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 105913)
Impressive. A x51v can get 16 hours with a 300mAh battery.

Didn't you just say yours lasts 4 hours?

Shifting goal posts much?

Beni 2007-12-08 04:06

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 105928)
Didn't you just say yours lasts 4 hours?

Shifting goal posts much?

4 Hours with the default 1000mAh battery. 3300mAh lasts about 14 to 16 hours. Depending on brightness and etc.

Moonshine 2007-12-08 04:22

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Unreal... Soon enough you will experience all the glory the Axim and WM5/6 has to offer. When it doesn't last for 16 hours on 300mAh (doing what?), reality will start to set in. Based on my experience (with the slightly less efficient x50v) that sounds about right for the discharge current for the sytem in standby given WM5 or 6. They aren't selling 2200mAh batteries for the Axims because people need 112 hours of *use* ! Regardless of what you think about the Nokia lineup this should be a good lesson.

Beni 2007-12-08 04:27

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Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 105937)
Unreal... Soon enough you will experience all the glory the Axim and WM5/6 has to offer. When it doesn't last for 16 hours on 300mAh (doing what?), reality will start to set in. Based on my experience (with the slightly less efficient x50v) that sounds about right for the discharge current for the sytem in standby given WM5 or 6. They aren't selling 2200mAh batteries for the Axims because people need 112 hours of *use* ! Regardless of what you think about the Nokia lineup this should be a good lesson.

Actually, its 16 Hours with full brightness and normal "usage" about 10 hours with WiFi, and 9 hours on a video (640 x 480) on a loop.

Pretty impressive. Though, I'll get a 1100. The fact that the n800 has no PIM, or Calendar, or To-Do, or anything management software kills it for me. Not to mention its horrible video support and lack of apps and games :(.

Goodbye world! I'll see if the N900 is good when it comes out probably next year. Perhaps I'll pick up another n800 when its 100$ bargin bin like the n770.

ch8xy 2007-12-08 04:32

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>>What exactly is the advantage of doing "online banking" and "ebay" on a N800 versus a laptop?<<

No, no real advantage. If I can put my laptop in my pocket whereever I go, I wouldn't have wasted money on a N800.

This shall be my last chat with you, my friend. I can see that you are in a defiant mood today; nothing people say will satisfy you. Or perhaps you forgot to take your medicine today?

Moonshine 2007-12-08 04:52

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Do you even realize you said 300mAh rather then 3300mAh by this point? I hope you got the "input" you were looking for, but now I know it's time to to leave this thread.

Beni 2007-12-08 04:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ch8xy (Post 105941)
>>What exactly is the advantage of doing "online banking" and "ebay" on a N800 versus a laptop?<<

No, no real advantage. If I can put my laptop in my pocket whereever I go, I wouldn't have wasted money on a N800.

This shall be my last chat with you, my friend. I can see that you are in a defiant mood today; nothing people say will satisfy you. Or perhaps you forgot to take your medicine today?

Goodbye to both of you then :D

sachin007 2007-12-08 05:29

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we enjoy the n800 and u enjoy your dell. now evry one is happy. lets stop it here

Beni 2007-12-08 05:48

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 105954)
we enjoy the n800 and u enjoy your dell. now evry one is happy. lets stop it here

I had an N800 as well so, yeah.

rickh 2007-12-08 08:45

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 105956)
I had an N800 as well so, yeah.

Beni,

The previous response hit it... just be happy with your Axim. As it stands, all you come across as trying to do is incite a respose contrary to your belief.

Good luck with your Axim. Many people are happy with the N8x0 also. accept it.

Don't be a tool.

R.
==

Beni 2007-12-08 16:46

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Originally Posted by rickh (Post 105977)
Beni,

The previous response hit it... just be happy with your Axim. As it stands, all you come across as trying to do is incite a respose contrary to your belief.

Good luck with your Axim. Many people are happy with the N8x0 also. accept it.

Don't be a tool.

R.
==

When did I say that people weren't happy with their N800's and N810's?

xxM5xx 2007-12-08 17:42

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The Dell X51V isn't the machine you think it is, but you keep right on thinking what you wish.

Beni 2007-12-08 17:58

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Originally Posted by xxM5xx (Post 106065)
The Dell X51V isn't the machine you think it is, but you keep right on thinking what you wish.

Do you have one?

xxM5xx 2007-12-08 18:00

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Read back in the thread.. it was all stated already.

Beni 2007-12-08 18:23

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I already responded to all of your points. So I guess you concede.

xxM5xx 2007-12-09 01:05

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 106084)
I already responded to all of your points. So I guess you concede.

LOL.... right.

Beni 2007-12-09 01:42

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Originally Posted by xxM5xx (Post 106207)
LOL.... right.

Then prove me wrong :D.

YoDude 2007-12-09 01:49

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BTW, you're not gonna be running Opera Mini for free unless you have a JVM loaded. Then it is single task with no support for MIME types.
Opera does make a WinMo browser dude... but it ain't free. Nothing good for WinMo is free unless it is crippleware. :)

About the only plus with WinMo is that because of its large userbase and time in market, pirated software is now available...
That is if you like stuff that is 1 or 2 versions old and has a nasty habit of hanging...
Another feature that the tablets don't have though is soft reset... you will get to know that real well with a PPC because you will use it a couple of times each day. :)

Beni 2007-12-09 02:14

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BTW, you're not gonna be running Opera Mini for free unless you have a JVM loaded. Then it is single task with no support for MIME types.
Opera does make a WinMo browser dude... but it ain't free. Nothing good for WinMo is free unless it is crippleware.
So? The Internet Tablet isn't free... most good things are not free. If I was desperate enough, I could pirate the software, though I wouldn't do that If I had money to spend since I'm too lazy to find and keygens and whatnot;.

Quote:

About the only plus with WinMo is that because of its large userbase and time in market, pirated software is now available...
That is if you like stuff that is 1 or 2 versions old and has a nasty habit of hanging...
Another feature that the tablets don't have though is soft reset... you will get to know that real well with a PPC because you will use it a couple of times each day.
Why is that? a 3300mAh battery lasts 14 to 16 hours with standard use. Heck, I'm not even awake that long.

yani 2007-12-09 02:48

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OK people, stop feeding the troll. That unfortunately is exactly what Beni is. Why trolls enjoy being trolls is beyond me.

Beni 2007-12-09 02:54

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Originally Posted by yani (Post 106239)
OK people, stop feeding the troll. That unfortunately is exactly what Beni is. Why trolls enjoy being trolls is beyond me.

Do you even know what a troll is? It is impossible for me to be a troll since I am the one who created this thread. Trolls to go other threads and de-rail them. So, well, you are wrong. To put it bluntly.

dblank 2007-12-09 08:36

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 106241)
Do you even know what a troll is? It is impossible for me to be a troll since I am the one who created this thread. Trolls to go other threads and de-rail them. So, well, you are wrong. To put it bluntly.

I do, I do!!

From Wikipedia:
"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the singular intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.[1] It often has a broader meaning referring to any shady trouble making Internet activity."

I'd say that's pretty much the standard definition.

Beni 2007-12-09 16:35

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Originally Posted by dblank (Post 106296)
I do, I do!!

From Wikipedia:
"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the singular intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.[1] It often has a broader meaning referring to any shady trouble making Internet activity."

I'd say that's pretty much the standard definition.

And as you can see I am not.

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-09 17:04

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 106403)
And as you can see I am not.

Bollocks! You fit the exact definition of a troll. :)

Beni 2007-12-09 17:53

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 106412)
Bollocks! You fit the exact definition of a troll. :)

Ah, then point me to the posts where I am "trolling". If anyone is trolling, its you guys who are claiming that I am a troll. :D

sachin007 2007-12-09 17:57

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Hey beni....... can i have your picture???
Just that the wikipedia page for a troll does'nt have a picture!!!

PLeBlanc 2007-12-09 18:08

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I hate to say it, but Beni isn't the one who comes across as trolling. He has read Axim specs, and he's comparing it to the reality he has in his n800. When he has the Axim, he will probably see it differently, but theoretical specs vs hard cold n800 reality, that's what he is looking at.

You guys attacking him and acting rude and dimissive doesn't make this forum look better. He's one guy acting rude, but there are several of you who have responded in kind.

If your (and my and Beni's) n800 is so much better, then you shouldn't need to be defensive or dismissive. If someone wants to *hope* that another device they don't own yet will solve their problems, why is that any skin off of your nose?

And for an n800 owner to post this thread here seems as worthwhile as if he had posted in the aximsite forums.

(full disclosure, I've had winCE and winmobile devices for the last decade, including an Axim, and I despise wince/winmobile. 7% battery drain per day in standby, ugh. That's part of why I am so impressed with the n800, and why I read these forums. But you guys could do better in keeping the fan-boy aspects down.)

Beni 2007-12-09 18:48

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The N800 has good battery life. Main reason I want a Axim is because it has alot of really good PIM programs. I'll buy a N800 again when its cheaper though. How long does it take for the WinCE devices to boot from complete shutdown.

I never left my N800 in standby, I always just turned it off completely, so I guess I won't have to worry about battery drain and what not. I heard WM5 has really good battery management (At least compared to WinCE 2003/02 anyways)

ch8xy 2007-12-09 23:42

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Hey PLeBlanc:No offense, but you should have re-read the thread before posting. Do you honestly believe someone who stated that one could not do anything "productive" with a n800?

lad 2007-12-10 02:40

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Obviously people here have important uses for the N800 - like the sys admin guys.

If biz/win. apps are such a priority, then you'd still want a keyboard, I would think.

If handheld web browsing isn't such a priority, then the Tablets shouldn't be the first place one would look. People keep comparing them to PDAs and Phones. The EEEs may be quite capable, and even briefcase-able, but definitely NOT shirt-pocketable and handheld-able! :)

I have a laptop too, but I still don't like packing, lugging, unpacking, booting, and waiting on it, etc. Give me an instant-on, shirt-pocket device for instant web access (that I can also incidently make Gizmo calls and eBay bids on).

BTW, I just showed my N800 to my Apple True Believer friend (who has a G5, laptop and touch). He was impressed enough to start looking for a good price on one. The screen is what sold him, I think.

Beni 2007-12-10 02:51

Re: Dell Axim x51v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ch8xy (Post 106537)
Hey PLeBlanc:No offense, but you should have re-read the thread before posting. Do you honestly believe someone who stated that one could not do anything "productive" with a n800?

What exactly could you do on the N800 thats productive, that you couldn't do on a PDA, or a anything with a internet browser and SIP?

Quote:

I have a laptop too, but I still don't like packing, lugging, unpacking, booting, and waiting on it, etc. Give me an instant-on, shirt-pocket device for instant web access (that I can also incidently make Gizmo calls and eBay bids on).
Get a instant on laptop :). You can make ebay bids on anything with a internet browser btw.

ch8xy 2007-12-10 04:00

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Sorry, pal. I said no more chat with you. My suggestion is for you to re-read the thread.

Beni 2007-12-10 04:08

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Originally Posted by ch8xy (Post 106630)
Sorry, pal. I said no more chat with you. My suggestion is for you to re-read the thread.

I already responded to your other posts. If you concede them get out :)

ch8xy 2007-12-10 04:20

Re: Dell Axim x51v
 
Sorry, no - more - chat.

dick-richardson 2007-12-10 04:21

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Originally Posted by Beni (Post 106604)
What exactly could you do on the N800 thats productive, that you couldn't do on a PDA, or a anything with a internet browser and SIP?


Unless I misread something...the quote you referenced indicated your position that the n800 couldn't do_anything_productive...now you're stating that it's as productive as something with a web browser and SIP. Please clarify. The IT's ARE a web browser and SIP...that's kinda the point.

To address that question (productivity outside of a web browser and SIP), you get all the functionality you want as you have an open platform for development. What you don't get is the packaged 'out-of-the-box' experience of an iPhone, Axim, or Palm PDA. If the apps you want are easily available on another platform, and you have little need for shell scripting or the like...cool.

Beni 2007-12-10 04:23

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Originally Posted by ch8xy (Post 106634)
Sorry, no - more - chat.

Good riddance then :D


Anyways, I wonder if my 8GB SDHC will work.. hmmm.


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